Ubisoft CEO praises the Nintendo NX

Everybody already have PS4s and Xbones
Wii U customers all feel betrayed
Who will buy NX?

3DS owners if it really is a handheld hybrid thing

Who wants the new Nintendo games and IPs attached to it like MH etc

The people who felt betrayed by the PS4/Xbone

People who want to play Nintendo games and aren't poor.
Like me.

>170M PS360 owners
>65M PS4Bone owners
Hmmm...

>Ubisoft

getting praised by trash is pretty low bar, they need to just show this thing to the public because it's getting tiring like waiting for that new zone animation about kylie

If it's a handheld it's a handheld. It's not a hybrid if you just hook it up to the TV.

>They have built something that will give us a chance to really have a different experience from what exists today. That’s what I like
-CEO of a company who makes the same game 4 times a year

zeldainformer.com/news/ubisoft-loves-wii-u-trying-to-embrace-a-nintendo-like-approach

It IS a hybrid if they do one of two things though.
1. Release a console version and handheld version separately that use the same OS and architecture, playing all the same games just at different resolutions and framerates
2. Release the 'handheld' either with, or by paying extra, a station that gives a hardware boost (has its own GPU and CPU) you can plug into which would essentially function as a quick SLI.
The latter would be some seriously cool and innovative tech too.

Not really
Ubisoft gives the longest support of any other western dev it's just since they're the last one to abandon the console they get all the shit.
Lots of Western devs abandoned Wii U at launch and many didn't even bother in the first place.
Wii U owners should be grateful they even ported games like AC4 and Child of light while other devs never even tried.

This is the same shit companies do for Nintendo every time, they praise it and bring a game on it along with multiplats of previous games then abandon the console 6 months after release

Just like PS4/Vita games?

If king money grubber is praising it, then it can't be good for our pockets.

Not really, but you have the right mindset.
PS4 and Vita do not run on the same architecture or OS. A developer actually has to port a game to a different platform in order to put it on PS4 from Vita or vice versa.
The idea of the NX as a hybrid is more along the lines of PS4 vs PS4 plus, but if the PS4 were a handheld and the PS4 plus the console version.

This gen is much more successful in terms of consoles sold than the previous one

How so?

PS4 and PS4 Pro is just like 3DS and N3DS.

You're just dreaming right now. If it's a handheld it's a handheld. If it's a console it's a console. Like what would you call the PSTV? A handheld, a console, a handheld console or a hybrid?

PS4 is selling more than PS3 did, and PS3 won the last gen

>PS3 won the last gen
lol

see
If one of those two is true, that it receives some kind of power benefit in console form (or can with the help of an additional attachment that isn't buying the hardware all over again), it is a hybrid.

This.

Everyones eager to jump on the lets blame the developer but lets be honest Nintendo didn't exactly court developers basically acting like an island unto itself.

They basically said we could care less if we need you

Acting like they were in the stone age and technology is not important only games. Well guess what gamers do care about hardwre specs. But you know who cares more about that? DEVELOPERS

developers have to cross develop for the sony and ms platforms do you really think they wanna gimp their products for an inferior spec console that has a niche market?

nintendo has to realize these aren't the halcyon days when the nes was the go to system for gamers. Nowadays they are trailing behind their competitors

I don't think you understood what the other user was saying.

What are the terms for winning ? Money? Units sold? If so the Wii destroyed everything else

Two words
>Reedsteel

You didn't answer. What is PSTV?

>Who will buy NX?
I will. I didn't buy weeu, only 3DS and PS4. I hope NX is a hybrid so I don't have to choose between buying it and the eventual Ninty handheld.

It is a handheld.
Because the 'console form' is not more powerful than the handheld.
If the NX's 'console form' is not more powerful than its 'handheld form', it is a handheld.
If it is more powerful, it is a hybrid.

Finally.

?
That's what I said from the get go here
Notice the word IF right after hybrid.

Agreed i want a REAL console none of this b.s trying to be both. Can i tie a falcon to a bear and get the best of both worlds?

No thats just stupid Nintendo. Enough with the damn gimmicks just gimmie a powerful good machine that I don't have to squint at a tiny underpowered handheld masquerading as a system

The hybrid would be the best thing for Nintendo now, no hiatus on releases, only one plataform to care about, all Nintendo games and monster Hunter and much more in a single device.

Literally a repeat of the Wii U launch you stupid drone.

I can only agree to the second one. The first one is nothing special. The second one will be seriously expensive and there's no reason to even have them combine, hardware-wise.

>I want Nintendo to continue splitting their dev teams in half so that we can have dry spells
>I never want to play Monster Hunter with HD graphics ever again

>I think, once again, the interface is very attractive. It’s a machine that will be easy to use for all gamers. They have built something that will give us a chance to really have a different experience from what exists today. That’s what I like – that they come with something new that is adapted to what we actually want now.

So it's just another gimmick that's gonna make the nx dead on arrival. Nice.

I agree the first one is nothing special, but it makes the 'platform' a hybrid.
The second would be very expensive with current tech. Which is why it would require a new breakthrough innovation that makes SLI much simpler. Something entirely possible, and Nintendo may be the first to have achieved it, but we'll see.

yeah why does the NX sound like they are literally trying to repeat the actions of the WiiU

enough b.s gimmicks nintendo focus on making a system to i dunno actually compete with your COMPETITORS

as a masters in business administration the actions nintendo makes at times are mind boggling.

Nintendo is a software company, not a hardware. They buy and assemble their hardware.

>as an armchair business man I could do a much better job than a company that is older than anyone alive on the planet and just turned 127

Why would they do that? Who would buy a NX if its just a copy of Ps4/Xbone?

They are both.
They own the patents to their technology.

Not buying the NX you shit eating drone. The only way Nintendo can regain my faith in their products is by making every NX release also come out for Wii U for the next 2 years to compensate for the 2 year dry spell that's hit the Wii U since their TRANSFORMATION.

No one's buying an NX anyway. Killing the Wii U was a stupid move.

>The only way X manufacturer can regain my trust is by gimping all new releases for their new console by making them multiplat with last gen
Did you bitch when no previous generation did that ever?

All the "technology" are just rehashed ideas of existing technology. Like detachable controllers but using some specific mounting.

The Wii U was already dead though.
And I'm buying an NX.

PS3 is still getting games. PS2 did too, it was getting games well into the PS3s lifespan.

I doubt it, no one amongst my friends had a Wii, everyone had a PS3 and some a X360 as second choice, Wii numbers were inflated by Nintendo

As stated they are both.

Nintendo is not a mountain unto itself where they can literally pump out their trickle of titles and have gamers justify owning a system just because.

3rd party developers are literally the feet that they stand on and they are the ones that bring customers coming back and pushing sales of their hardware and basically supporting them through the lean times when people are waiting for the next nintendo release

Yeah, cause you're part of an ever dwindling group of loyalists. Killing the Wii U effectively pisses off most Wii U owners. Thereby, about half of the Wii U owners will buy an NX, with how few new buyers will come onboard another mediocre gimmick machine... We'll, let's just say I don't see the NX outselling the Wii U.

What games is Sony making for the PS3?

>delay rayman because it wasn't ready for other consoles
>release watch dogs like 6 months later
Nah fuck ubisoft

They are probably praising Nintendo for their decision to make it a hybrid home/mobile console because That means less competition in the market when no one buys one.

It has a handheld version / is a handheld / is a handheld console hybrid.
It will outsell the Wii U's lifetime in its first year.

And how many Nintendo fans skipped the Wii and/or Wii U after seeing how gimmick shit they were? I know I did. And if the NX is at least decent I'll probably get it.

Is this legit?

Kek

Ubisoft is a customer to Nintendo because they're paying royalties to Nintendo to publish their games. The customers are always right.

Of course they will dicksuck new consoles, why would want to go on record trashing companies, you'll just burn bridges that way

>believing UBISOFT

just like wii U right?
Ubi needed change of management 5 years ago they are like authoritarian state with president at pwoer for 30 years

Yes.

Persona 5, Guilty Gear Revelator, and most PS4 games for the past two years also came to PS3.

And I as neither Nintendo nor Ubisoft care because ?

Is sony making any of them though?

Remember when Nintendrones said Mario Kart would make the WiiU outsell the PS4? Ahahahahaha, good times.

It'll just be another underpowered gimmick machine, I don't understand why anyone expects any different.

no

Who cares?

That's PS3 support well into another generation, something Nintendo has NEVER done.

You cared enough to say fuck Ubisoft didn't you? Ubisoft was just acting for their best interest, and as customers to Nintendo they can do whatever they want such as delaying or blaming Nintendo even for increased dev costs or low sales from their userbase.

I do. They're a company, not our friends. They're just good at getting people's money with rehashes because they know people never learn.

Putting that aside, they support many platforms and that's good to hear what they have to say about the NX.

>Remember when Nintendrones said Mario Kart would make the WiiU outsell the PS4
Iwata said that. He said Mario Kart would move millions of Wii U during the holiday season the game came out
usgamer.net/articles/nintendo-cuts-fiscal-year-forecast-from-527m-profit-to-240m-loss

And Nintendrones on Cred Forums parroted that shit left and right. I remember their sales predictions threads, ahahahaha.

So what are Nintendrones gonna do when the NX flops?

>Not really
>Ubisoft gives the longest support of any other western dev it's just since they're the last one to abandon the console they get all the shit.
>delay rayman after it was finished to make it multiplat
>outright stated they had finished wii u games laying on the shelf they weren't going to release until sales picked up
>delayed watch_dogs several times until it wasn't certain if it was even coming out
But yeah, they totally supported the wii u until the end because they released a yearly Just Dance. Fuck off Ubishill.

You mean like Splatoon's flop?
It's a fact that Nintendo handhelds sell extremely well.

The folks still crying after the reveal of the PS4 Pro

But now you're blaming Nintendo for 3rd parties.

Are they the same people who cried after the reveal of N3DS?

Like the 3DS you mean? That thing was an abysmal flop till it got a price cut,

Nothing stopping Nintendo for making it up to their customers for killing the WiiU early.

>blaming Nintendo for 3rd parties
Not that guy but Sonyggers wouldn't blame anybody for no 3rd parties on Nintendo. If anything they would applaud whoever that's responsible.

Yeah, you wish.

If the Wii won last gen, then the PS1 won over the N64. If the N64 won, then the PS3 won over the WiiU.

Choose, quality games, or console sales.

maybe

I am talking about sales numbers, you braindead faggot. The Wii sold 20 million units more than the PS3.

Games were at least released for the 3DS by that point.

I wouldn't call that "winning" anything desu, Wii had very few memorable games. Most people who bought one had one collect dust, and not many gamers bought one, only casuals... So

>interface is very attractive
>easy to use for all gamers
>a different experience from what exists today
>something new that is adapted to what we actually want now.
>how different the new console will be to other consoles on the market
>Nintendo Wii is one of the highest selling home consoles of all time and if history repeats itself
>Just Dance

>I wouldn't call that "winning" anything desu, Wii had very few memorable games.

This is bullshit. In 30 years there will be big pop culture articles or shows (or whatever media people consume in 2046) that will talk about Wii Sports and Wii Fit.

No one will remember anything on the 360 or PS3.

As a gamer, the console that wins each gen, is the one which has all the best games, not the one that moves the most units. I could care less about console sales as I'm not an investor. Yeah, console sales usually ties into the amount of good games that will make it onto that console, but this definitely was NOT the case with the Wii. PS3 had a much more impressive library.

Going from the gen to gen, it's:
NES
SNES
N64
PS2
PS3
and nothing this gen so far.

>for honor
nigga please.

>R6
Is this actually good? i'm skeptical about buying a game for ~$40 with only four maps.

Please tell me how many other companies released one if their flagship games on the Wii U in 2014.
6 months late is better than never ever.

I'll remember that the PS3 had no gaems

>n64

This shit was done with the Wii U and then totally abandoned.

We don't know until details happen and games are assured and it's released.

...

There are more than 4 maps tho, and its updated constantly

I have more memories of the N64 in terms of memorable games, but it really is a close call, since the PS1 also had FFVII, Metal Gear Solid, Max Paine, etc... I wouldn't disagree if you said PS1 desu.

UNPRECEDENTED

PARTNERSHIP

They say that now but then they'll abandon it after their low-effort ancient ports don't sell because nobody on the planet asked for them.

Keep dreaming you stupid drone. Didn't the PS3 already have tons of articles written about it like 2 years ago. People already forgot about the Wii and its shit library.

They'll bring those up when they inevitably bring up CoD and AssCreed

How did you post a blank image

No

>new nintendo console

You ever notice Nintendo always go first?

>Didn't the PS3 already have tons of articles written about it like 2 years ago

I would hope that people would still remember the PS3 when it was still being sold in stores.

Long term cultural impact though? The Wii wins and it's not even close.

>Ubisoft CEO praises the Nintendo NX
Daily reminder taht Ubisoft did exactly the same for the WiiU AND the fucking Wii too
TL DR: It's marketing bullshit

I posted the WiiU's library. That's how I did it.

>this is worthy of a news article of course he isn't going to say anything derogatory or negative

He'd never come out and say "the nx is a piece of shit" if that's what he thought, but he wouldn't have any reason to praise it either. It also provides clues as to the accuracy of the rumors we've gotten so far, because if the whole hook of the system was something like that mobile device with a dock and detachable controllers none of what he's saying here would apply to it at all. It suggests that rumor is either wrong or very incomplete.

No doubt trying to butter them up in a desperate bid to save their company from being taken over.

People are still remembering the PS3 now as it's still making sales and getting games. Wii on the other hand was killed by Nintendo years ago, and it's still remembered for it being the moment Nintendo turned its back on its fans.

Betrayed? By what? I love my Wii U.

Demon's Souls, inFamous 2, GoW 3 and TLoU are the only ones that matter there. Remove the multiplat shit (that always run worse on the PS3) and that's what's left.

>unplayable multiplats that ran like dogshit
>weebshit
>dante's inferno
>shitfield 3
>armored core v
>mass effect with 3
dead space 3
>4 exclusives worth getting
What did he mean by this?

>it's still remembered for it being the moment Nintendo turned its back on its fans.

Only by some of Cred Forums. The Wii had a lot of very successful core Nintendo games like Mario Galaxy and Brawl.

at some point I just want to know what the fuck the NX is instead of listening to everyone tell us how amazing it's going to be

No, but it should be.

This.

I've had a PS4 for 2.5 years and I have jack shit to play on it. Now they want me to spend $400 on a better version?

Nah fuck that. Bring on NX!

loving the deliberate ignoring of all these red flags about the nx ITT

Hahahaha

user, the entire PS3 cycle lost sony TONS of money. It was a complete finantial failure as a console.

Google it

>Like the 3DS you mean? That thing was an abysmal flop till it got a price cut,

Price cut sure didn't help the Vita.

>It’s a machine that will be easy to use for all gamers.

...the NX is a PS4?

>Guilty Gear, Jojo, Blazblue, SFIV, not mattering
Funny thing is, I posted this image in a thread as a PS3 recommendations thread as I'm buying one after the shit investment that was the WiiU, and everyone was super helpful, but hey, nothing can cure the Drone out of you once you're balls deep in Nintendo stank.

Not really, part of the WiiU's failure is owed to the disappointment that was the Wii. And Brawl was shit, still remember as the worst Smash Bros of them all. If it weren't for mods, it would have been forgotten ages ago.

In fact, I'd say it was piracy that redeemed the Wii.

Thank god, at least they make games withtheir new tech in mind

New games being gimped by having versions for previous gen console for more money is one of the many reasons this gen is the worst ever in gaming

>Ubisoft

So these titles will be 'exclusive' for a year then appear on the real platforms, ala ZombiU?

No need for an NX then.

And?

Well, if throwing away money on a console with jack shit to play on it is what peeves you, then I'm sure the NX is a wise investment.

The Wii failed to keep the attention of its primary audience for more than half of gen 7, and the WiiU was a complete flop everywhere outside Japan. The NX isn't looking too hot either, it will still sell handheld games of course, the 3DS is very popular, but as a console it will continue the trend of being unpopular with core gamers and 3rd party console devs. I don't care how old Nintendo is, or how much money Nintendo has in the bank (because Nintendrones LOVE mentioning how Nintendo could lose money for 50 years and never go bankrupts!), I want to know when Nintendo will actually start making smart business decisions.

Yeah, new tech. Like how the Wii was just a Gamecube with motion controls. Or how the NX will pretty much be the the WiiU but with a hybrid gimmick.

>Not really, part of the WiiU's failure is owed to the disappointment that was the Wii.

The Wii had,

2 3D Mario games, 2 Zelda games, a Metroid game, a Metriod Prime game, Mario Kart, Smash Bros., an Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, a side-scrolling mario game, an exclusive Capcom vs. fighter, a side-scrolling Mario game, a Donkey Kong Country game, Monster Hunter, and two extremely well received, exclusive JRPGs.

and people complain that it ignored hardcore gamers.

GTFO

I don't like any of those games, user.

>Ubisoft
>Promised to make loads of games for the Wii U
>they dropped the ship as soon as it wasn't the biggest selling console of all times

And without source!
And people will fall into it!

Who are Nintendo's audience for this console?
>hardcore gamers will not be interested in a region locked gimmick console with little to no third party games
>midcore gamers already have their cod/madden/ea shovelware machines
>women and children just play games on their phones/tablets and do not need or want to buy a dedicated game device

posting leak from last week
let's see if it was bullshit or not

Dawg, chill. It's not even revealed yet.

Nintendrones are a fourth category altogether

>>3526977412698159982684497>>35269886852699003699217937659>>3526998012700071001632483>>35270053552700634700752>>3527008622700930010711273>>35270145752701764 >>3527022322702538029902320>>35270349652703641703705373446>>3527041812704305043276023 can you subhumans stop deliberately ignoring of all these red flags

>interface is very attractive
>easy to use for all gamers
>a different experience from what exists today
>something new that is adapted to what we actually want now.
>how different the new console will be to other consoles on the market
>Nintendo Wii is one of the highest selling home consoles of all time and if history repeats itself

Yeah, and it was missing GTA, and all the big 3rd party titles of that gen. But feel free to blind yourself with cognitive dissonance all you like.

See Likewise, you forget that most of the games you listed were criticized for being excessively easy, tutorial heavy, and overly casualized in order to appeal to a broader audience. Or that the Wii's most successful games were Wii Sports and Wii Fit.

Going down the List, the Galaxy games, while good, were still easier than Sunshine, and had tons of easymode hacks, same for DK. the first Zelda game is a port of a GCN game, and the second is widely regarded as the worst in the franchise. Brawl is also seen as the most casual of all the Smash games, and cemented Nintendo's reputation as forsaking fan desires for casual appeal. NSMBWii literally became a meme for how souless Nintendo had become. Fire Emblem and Metroid were good, so I agree. And MK and AC have always been casual. You also forgot the true gems of the Wii, which were the Vanillaware games and the No More Heroes, but like the other decent games on that console, including the JRPGs, Metroid, and FE, they sold like shit, Because it was too little too late by that point.

Here's your source.
ign.com/articles/2016/09/22/nintendo-nx-fantastic-will-offer-different-experience-to-other-consoles-ubisoft-ceo

Also, who cares about what they said, it will be the same as with the Wii U. In the beggining both EA and Ubi said the same thing and they showed "support" by releasing ports of old games and delaying the only exclusive they had in store for much later to the point where it wasn't even an exclusive anymore.

They complain about sales and the console but how do they want it to have success if they don't release games at the same time or with the same quality as other products on the same console? Sure, these pieces of shit can live on PS4 and XBone due to them atracting casual crowd more easily, but it doesn't change the fact that they still release mediocre games.

Heck, if Sony had as many exclusives as nintendo you can bet they would bail as well since they can't compete with a good first party title. Actually, that was exactly what nintendo did to them, they let the third parties have the launch titles of the Wii U and once they started releasing more first party one both EA and Ubisoft chickened out and delayed or did not release their games.
Fuck them, on any console or gaming medium available.

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>no multiplats or third party games
>even their first-party games were lackluster, and a lot of popular franchises didn't even get a new game
>no new platform "exclusive" Zelda game, BotW will be shared between WiiU and Nx, meaning there's likely no reason to buy it for WiiU
WiiU is almost 3DO levels of shit, which is ironic considering how much Nintendo fans made fun of the 3DO back in the day. I have no idea why people would be hyped for the NX. If anything WiiU was their Saturn so this will be their Dreamcast, something that finally kills their console brand and people remember with rose-tinted nostalgia goggles decades form now.

A new experience would be something like VR. Not an HD portable console that is outperformed by mobile phones. See the Vita.

One that's dwindling if WiiU sales are anything to go by. I don't see how the NX will outsell the WiiU.

The initial promo videos of the Wii U that were shown in E3 and such showed the Ubisoft midget talking about how they had many plans to release games for the Wii U and whatever.

>why did no one reply to my bait?
>better post it again

Can you not link every single post in a thread?

Thanks. Also, if it's not a Ps4/Xbox 1 clone, I'll love it.

>Yeah, and it was missing GTA

GTA Fucking blows. So do annualized call of duty games and Assassin's Creed games.

If that's your jam, then the PS3 probably worked out really well for you. I'm glad different companies do different things.

You end your post by talking about what Metroid and Fire Emblem sold like. I don't give a shit.

Chasing the GTA and Madden crowd is the fucking stupidest thing Nintendo could do.

...

This is ironic after backstabbing them with Rayman Legends and the launch debacle.

>all the big 3rd party titles of that gen
I know it missed 3rd party titles but I ask you to elaborate further.

Also
>GTA
>Hardcore
I like GTA but you're going nowhere with this.

>bait
>literally quoting the OP noone read and proceeded to go on about ubisoft dropping support for the wii u like that's the fucking meat of the story

>One that's dwindling if WiiU sales are anything to go by. I don't see how the NX will outsell the WiiU.

>I don't see how the Wii will outsell the GameCube.

You 10 years ago.

Sometimes wacky stuff happens. I'll bet on Nintendo. They've doing great work for 30 years.

My mom said the nx is an ok console to get he must be totally in the right here
get your nx boiz

>Chasing the GTA and Madden crowd is the fucking stupidest thing Nintendo could do.

That's exactly what they're chasing you stupid drone, lol.

It'll be a Vita clone, sales and everything. Are you ready?

They are going to do the same thing again. I just hope their titles coincide with some big Nintendo or another 3rd party title to fuck them further and this time with reason.
Their games suck, people who buy them do so because they either have shit taste or have nothing else to play. It's a shame because their starting titles are usually fine but then they get shat like crazy once a sequel comes out.

It was more hardcore than Brawl, and it was missing the Souls series, and Guilty Gear, and MvC, and pretty much everything I linked here.

It wont be though. The vita has also over 1000 games right now.

A Vita clone with games has guaranteed sales

Are Nintendo so out of touch they don't know what people want or are they so arrogant that they think they can tell people what they should want instead?

>I'll bet on Nintendo. They've doing great work for 30 years.
Oh man, this guy ODed on the Nintendo Kool-Aid, this is hilarious.

>Nintendo consoles
>Having games
Yeah, hahaha. The lineup of upcoming WiiU games looks great. We got Zelda and.... uhhh.. Yeah, that's pretty much it.

Call me when they make a new metroid

Giving people what they think they want is a losing strategy because people are unimaginative and will always tell you that they want a more powerful version of what they already have.

How psyched are you for the PS4 Pro?

No one wanted a phone without tactile buttons until apple made one. No one wanted an SD system with motion controls until Nintendo made one.

The breakthrough has nothing to do with gpus. Gpus are already advance enougb. The issue comes from outdated apis since its the compiling converting to machine uses up all the resources. Nx will be vulkan based so nintendo was smart about that but you know this turd will have lower dpi and resolution than the vita or any cellphone. Thats the flaw

The number of games sold per console is roughly the same for the PS4, Xbone, and Wii U.

That's pretty sad when you think of all the glorious third party support that the first two are supposed to have.

It won't need anything special. Mobile phones can already run HD games. Which is why the NX is such a redundant piece of shit.

Only way it'd be a reasonable console to buy is if it was a working VR machine with good, worthwhile games. But well, we all know Miyamotto's stance on that.

Neat chart. Now include handhelds.

Nintendo makes good stuff. I don't know what to tell you.

There was Guilty Gear on the Wii and it also had Tatsunoko vs Capcom which was equally good although with different characters. Plus it was an exclusive.

More than half of those titles in the image of the post you mentioned aren't even hardcore, they are crowd bait titles that kiddies like. Most of them are also pretty shit (despite the title, some of them are a big disappointment). Even worse, ports.

In another note, anyone who owns a Nintendo console usually owns a PC as well, it's been the best way to get access to the most games out there for ages. Removing all the shit from that image and thinking back on the titles the Wii had I think we had the best part of the deal.

Also, you missed Devil May Cry 4 from that list.

If that's the case, then why is Nintendo killing the WiiU? I mean, if it's doing so great?

The NES saved video games alone. Also, those are not bad numbers at all

>Which is why the NX is such a redundant piece of shit.

Dude we don't even know what it is yet. Chillax.

Also have you tried VR yet? It's neat, but you're probably not going to want to play for more than about 45 minutes.

Can you stop making these threads?

Ubisoft has about as much credit as Patcher on the subject on how good a console is.

I really can't believe you misunderstood that this poorly.

Fine, I'll break out the puppets.

Imagine that Nintendo made a console that only one person bought but they released 20 fantastic games for it and the one person who bought it is extremely happy with their purchase.

Do you think it is in their best interest to continue supporting that console because everyone who owns it is happy with it?

The Wii U has more worthwhile games on it than the PS4 and Xbone right now. We don't have to wait because our games have actually been released.

Hope you're having fun with Bloodborne, it's the only worthwhile title on your desk until FFXV is released. I mean, it was only a year and a half with no games to play right? No biggie.

Sure.

Also, correction, Nintendo MADE good stuff. All their new stuff is piss.

TvC is nowhere near as the Arcsys fighters, sorry.

Also, that list is a list of PS3 games I plan on buying as I only bought a Wii and WiiU and regret missing out on a lot of shit.

Keep talking down on those games, all you want, but all the recent Nintendo consoles barring the DS haven't offered me a similar experience. In fact, it's been nothing but disappointments since the Gamecube.

Considering my brother owns a Vive, and I play it every time I go visit, I'd say yeah, I'd love to play a more fleshed out version of that with quality games.

you can't kill what's already dead

>comparing a phone to a game system
>chart ends in 2011
Great job.

The Wii U is a pretty nice system with some good games but Nintendo totally botched it from the start.

Bad marketing. Bad launch lineup. Release droughts. Etc.

Still though, the clubhouse leader currently is the PS4 (which I own). Bloodborne is great. MGSV is great. Uncharted and Doom were great for weekend rentals. Beyond that though, it's crickets. Now they want me to buy a slightly more powerful version for another $400? And on top of the, throw down $400 for VR support?

If the PS4 is the best that gaming has to offer, the fuck me. Holy shit.

I'm gonna ride or die with Nintendo.

>Happy with it.
Except I own a WiiU and I'm NOT happy with it? I can tell you I'm certainly pissed they decided to shut it down early.

I OWN a fucking WiiU fuckface. It's literally a Smash and Netflix machine for me. Literally watching FUCKING Archer on it right now.

I don't own a PS4, but seeing it's list of upcoming and released titles, I can say I certaintly wish I'd gone with that over the fucking WiiU. Had I known Nintendo would kill it halfway into the generation, I'd have never bought it.

>Strawmen
>moving goalposts
Getting desperate aren't we?

iPhones aren't gameboys and gameboys aren't iPhones.

Apple has replaced some of the need for a handheld console, but not all of it.

If iOS games are the future of mobile gaming then fuck that.

That was my first post in the thread, your chart is insanely outdated you idiot.

They said the same thing about the Wii U and then completely dropped it

Ubisoft was the only third party company to give any support to Wii U when it released, I'm pretty surprised they're willing to do it again for NX after how things worked out last time.

Nintendo audience are people who buy and play good games. All that other shit you speaking is nonsense and make you sound a corporate tool.

Chill. Trade your Wii U in for credit towards a used PS4. I'm sure you'll be happier.

It's not the end of the world.

>TvC is nowhere near as the Arcsys fighters, sorry.
TvC is the same as MvC. There was GG on the Wii aside from Xrd.
If that is a list of games you plan to buy then you should review it because some of them are also available for Wii U like the Darksiders series.
If you missed out on good games that's your own fault but don't say the Wii and Wii U don't have enough titles to cater to your tastes because they have some of the best titles around. If you also missed some of those ports you're equally at fault because they are available in many platforms and I doubt you don't have a PC that can run them as well or better than a PS3.

Ubisoft hopped on the Wii U's nuts as well.

They also said it will recapture "lapsed Wii players" just after they announced some shitty dance waggleshit.

nintendolife.com/news/2016/06/e3_2016_ubisoft_is_confident_that_nintendo_nx_can_recapture_lapsed_wii_players

>Trade your Wii U in for credit towards a used PS4
>trading a dead console for one with no games
Fuck this generation.

>If iOS games are the future of mobile gaming then fuck that.
That's exactly what it is dumbfuck. Mobile gaming is doing better than handlheld gaming already, and GROWING. It's not just IOS, it's IOS and Android. I see th NX having a hard time with that.

>One that's dwindling if WiiU sales are anything to go by

Iam sorry, didn't know Nintendo fans were just buying The hardware just to admire it, not like software exists or nothing on the system.

>The only way Nintendo can regain my faith in their products is by making every NX release also come out for Wii U for the next 2 years.
Not going to happen WiiU is Dead

It's already been confirmed as a hybrid and it's been confirmed you wouldn't be able to play it on the go

Now compare phone, PC and tablet sales to the Xbone, Vita and PS4.
And don't tell me it's dumb because that's exactly the type of dumb thing you did right now.

Found one

Wasn't their an article last year about Ubisoft berating Nintendo over some superficial shit?

>Ubisoft releases a half-assed last gen port as their first NX title
>No one buys it because it's a half-assed last gen port.
>"wooooow nintendo fans don't buy third party games fuck this we're sticking with ps4 and xbone"

They're available on WiiU, and they're known for being massively inferior ports that hardly work. the only decent one was Deus Ex.

And my PC is a drawing tablet, which I use exclusively for drawing. WiiU was a horrible purchase.

And lose a fuckton of money to jewish gaming stores? I'll hardly get anything for it considering how awful WiiU sales are. I'd sell it but... NOBODY wants a fucking WiiU. I've had Xenoblade X on sale at Amazon for fucking MONTHS.

That lists the hardware bought, not actual software. Even in terms of software, are you going to say those games you download, play for 2 minutes and uninstall are better than a handheld game? Even the Vita does better than that. It's a different market that people suddenly mixed for stupid reasons.

I just don't understand why would they release a new console before releasing the first game for Wii U.

Dude, I know. I live in a first world country in the 21st century. I fucking know people play games on their iPhones.

But to say that everyone who used to play Mario Land or Link's Awakening will suddenly be happy playing flappy bird and endless runners instead, I'm not so sure of that.

The DS sold 150 million. The 3DS sold 60 million. I completely buy that the 90 million people lost are people who are perfectly satisfied with cell phone gaming.

There's still millions of people who want something better though.

Playing ZombiU on anything other than a WiiU kek.

Yeah, gamers buy a GAMING console with all the 3rd party games. Normies and casuals buy a phone. Smart people buy PCs and nobody is gonna buy a Nintendo console.

hahaha this is funny, but you know what is hilarious? Your sad and pathetic life.

>Playing ZombiU

>And lose a fuckton of money to jewish gaming stores?

You're an angry human being. Getting the "right" console isn't going to change that.

Good luck dude.

user PS3 is the last of its generation its nearly bankrupt Sony

Name calling aren't going to make up for those piss poor 1st party software sales on the PS4 compared to the WiiU

What titles do you have for the Wii U?

People who get a DS or 3DS do not want a phone to play games... How hard is it to understand that.

Games aren't everything

Say that to the Vita and the 3DS. 3DS only started doing good once it got a price drop and Monster Hunter.

Deal is, Phones can already outerform anything Nintendo can churn out at a budget price. Mobiles can do a lot more than Flappy bird, and considering devs want the platform with the biggest userbase, I see the NX suffering against mobile games.

Ubisoft considered Wii U to be PS3/360 tier, NX finally means they can say Nintendo has a next gen console.

>Smart people buy PCs and a Nintendo console and nobody buys an Xbone
Fixed that for you. It's the best way to get the majority of titles available in the market aside from the very few PS exclusives that may or may not be later ported for the PC.

>late ports
Don't complain, that's all you've had on the PS4 for more than a year.

>Smart people buy PCs

>I'm smart because I did the best job at spending my money on toys

lol get over yourself dude

>How do profits work?

Phones can in theory have good games but they never will because the people who play games on their phone only like shit like Candy Crush.

Netflix to watch Archer with.

>Playing Ubisoft games

Ironic considering your growing Amiibo collection.

> Cred Forums-video games

>Ubisoft praises the upcoming Nintendo console
>promises exclusive content
>delivers a timed exclusive near launch
>one or two multiplatform games that same year
>never makes another game for that system
>next system is announced
>Ubisoft praises the upcoming Nintendo console
>repeat

>immediately goes on the attack against sony in reply to a post that mentioned nothing at all about sony

Every time.

Try to play games more complex than candy crush on mobile, its the worst experience ever , having your fingers on the screen.

>3DS only started doing good once it got a price drop and Monster Hunter.

And pokemon
And Mario
And Mario Kart
And Animal Crossing
And Zelda
And Luigi's Mansion
And Yokai Watch
And Piccross
And Tomodachi Life

And any of the other 47, million selling games on the system.

This "Monster Hunter" meme needs to die. It's not even close to the best selling game on the system. It's a part of why it's successful sure.

What's your point? The system became cheap and it had good games so that's the only reason it sold? No fucking shit. Seems like a good reason to me.

>mounting

You know all mobiles can do bluetooth with wireless controllers, right?

>no littlebigplanet

I don't have any amiibos. Besides, I'm not the one who thinks my purchase of toys makes me better than anyone else. That's you man.

I'm a grown man who likes playing the video games I like playing. I'm don't get bent out of shape when someone prefers something different.

But they should be. How aren't they everything? I don't want a dust collector or a paper weight.

They praised the Wii U, too. Don't be a fucking idiot. Also
>Ubisoft

Looks, like a struck a nerve.

Oh boy, ubisoft ports! Just what nintendo needs.

Yeah cause this is a fucking great solution.

Hold on I'm getting a call!

Do you not have friends to play those games with? Or do they all play Fifa and CoD?

it should be

>I said something dumb and wrong and easily falsifiable.

Glad you agree ;-)

>How different it will be compared to the PS4 and XBone
So it's an even more underpowered machine than either of them? Golly gee I can't wait!

>bluetooth
>still defends the NX leaks though

Also, who the fuck gets calls anymore? Everyone just uses whatsapp these days.

Normies buy a console or a PC, stop backpedaling. Or are you going to tell me that the 120mi people who bought a PS2 are what, gamers? HAHAHAHAHA

How are you unhappy with those?
Also, did you play WW and TP on the GC or Wii? If not you should get them. Tropical Dong, W101 and SM3DW are also pretty good.

Nah ds had an amazing library. 3ds library is the worst nintendo handheld library easily

Ubisoft did the sam thing before the wii u launched then dropped it 6 months latter.

The NX is probably a consolized smartphone like the PS4 and XB1 are consolized PCs

>Nah ds had an amazing library.

What games should I get? I skipped the DS but jumped on with the 3DS. In 4 years of owning it I've never thought to try DS games.

Guys, this is simple

Tegra X1
>DOA

Tegra X2
>Best console ever

Me and my flatmate play Smash doubles from time to time, but we both wish the game wasn't such shit.

That's why I said it's a Netflix and Smash Bros machine, and the only reason I play Smash, is because I wasn't smart enough to pick up a game with ACTUALY fighting games on it. Even at a casual level, Xenoverse 2 would have been a lot better than Smash WiiU.

Most of the time we have people over, we watch films or something, not play videogames.

>still defends the NX leaks
Not the other guy but do you really believe everything you read? In the end it might even be something completely different from what we've heard.

Isn't the Shield a popular emulation box?

You better be a good pirate
vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Nintendo_DS

There's tons of stuff to play. If you find a game that you enjoy try to buy it as well, they are worth it.

I played those on the Wii and GCN. I didn;t like the first neoDK, and 3DW looks uninspired. I didn't like 3D Land. W101 I'll try eventually I guess, but really ONE fucking game, and Zelda to look forward to is a fucking travesty.

Out of the ones I own, only Monhun, Deus Ex, and Bayonetta have been worthwhile.

Everything else has been from ok to disappointing.

>Ubisoft CEO praises...
Oh man I had high hopes for it....to bad it turned out to be so shitty

Tablet hardware X
>DOA

Tablet hardware Y
>Best console ever

All the leaks have recurring elements. Unless the the NX is a VR machine, it's DOA.

You won't play games with other people even if you have another console. More than two playing on a console that isn't Nintendo is gonna be shit.

First, you don't have many options, second you'll have shit games at most. Think it through.
PC should be your best bet for fighting games too. Not a PS3

Why do people like handhelds anyway? I'd rather just emulate now. I used to play a ton of GBC and GBA games as a kid but even then I didn't really take advantage of the mobile aspect, mostly played at home.

Thank god its not an expensive fad like VR then.

Yeah because the delayed the game which affected me
DLC is in an companies best interest aswell, doesn't mean I like it

>Zelda to look forward to is a fucking travesty
There's absolutely nothing wrong with BotW.

>Unless the the NX is a VR machine, it's DOA.

Dude, no one wants to spend at least $400 on hardware in addition to the at least $400 they've already spent just to play 30 minute tech demos.

Ask anyone who goes to the trade shows every year. They're fucking over it.

Tablet hardware Y offers graphical power equal to a xbone-ps4. Tablet hardware X is last get trash. Knowing Nintendo they will go for tablet hardware X just so that they can save $5 per unit.

Sister wants to play games too, and she likes shooters and mainstream shit. My m8 just likes games that take skill. Smash comes close, but again, it's more frustrating than not oftentimes. Literally wating for mods to fix the shit mechanics in that game.

But honestly, considering Guilty Gear and Smash are my favorite franchises, I really wish I hadn't trusted Nintendo on this one.

>Why do people like handhelds anyway?

I'm going to be on a plane 8 more times by the end of 2016.

Mobile game are garbage and very few are in HD.

It looks like a Skyrim total conversion mod.

This is how far the "its like Skyrim" meme has come.

The travesty is ONLY having Zelda to look forward to you idiot.

>Tablet hardware Y offers graphical power equal to a xbone-ps4. Tablet hardware X is last get trash.

Spec whoring is the worst meme of modern gaming.

We're three years into this generation and already they want us to buy new and more powerful Xboxes and Playstations when the best selling games on either platform are HD remasters of games that were available last gen.

>Nintendo makes a gimmick
>Boo it's shit
>Someone else makes a gimmick
>Best thing ever
VR is even less usable than motion controls.
The only recurring elements I've heard so far are the use of cartridges and some kind of second screen. Everything else has more than 3 versions of the story, it's a mess.

>Sister wants to play games too, and she likes shooters and mainstream shit
EDUCATE HER BETTER! I have a sister too and she has good taste in games.

It's not your fault on GG, you had no way of knowing they would make Xrd so late in the life cycle of a console. That's why I recommend the PC since it should be a better investment for your art and overall fighting games.

Did you even play Skyrim? Fuck this meme shit. I got to play the demo at E3 and Skyrim at home. Skyrim is horseshit compared to the BotW demo. Skyrim had potential to be better but it's not something you can change with just graphical mods.

Not the other guy but that was confusing as fuck.
Also, looking forward to Zelda is a good thing.

It's not even that. The worst part is how the weakest console of this gen is actually the one making best use of the hardware and pushing it to the limits.
The other ones go with a basic game engine that isn't optimal for the hardware, it just happens to run there, and can't even push said hardware to greater heights. It's sad.

>Sister wants to play games too, and she likes shooters and mainstream shit.
You failed as brother.

I already have a cintiq. I don't need a PC atm. My friend wants to buy a decent PC for Warhammer Total War in a couple years, but me and him talk about this all the time. WiiU was a shit purchase. Sister bought an Xbone before she moved here, but it doesn't work here due to the different voltages.

All I'm saying, after a generation of putting up with the shitty Wii, I really wish I'd bought a PS3 over a WiiU, and played all the last gen games I missed out on. Especially since the WiiU already has an emulator for it on PC, and considering the strides Dolphin made, I hardly see the point in even supporting Nintendo at all. Especially considering them shutting down fan mods, going after fan art, region locking, etc...\

I don't have many hours a day to spend on gaming, but I really wish I could have spent them on fucking Guilty Gear and Dark Souls, and not on the disappointments that were Smash WiiU and Xenoblade X.

At least the PS3 still got a bunch of current gen games. WiiU literally got nothing, and has NOTHING to look forward to.

It's the ONLY thing to look forward to. That's why I'm pissed. And considering how shit SS was, I'm still doubtfull the game will be any good.

Me - Nintendo
Sister - Xbox
Brother - Playstation

Blame Nintendo for going full casual after the Gamecube. We all grew up playing Banjo Tooie and Melee. And I don't blame them. WiiU hardly has anyting interesting.

What on the other platforms would you classify as interesting?

Is it FIFA 17? Maybe Star Wars Battlefront? The Last of US Remastered? Halo Remastered? Gear Remastered? The fifth Grand Theft Auto game? The 9th Assassin's Creed Game? The 11th Call of Duty Game? Madden?

These are the flagship games for PS4/Xbone

>mother 4

And he blew it. Stopped reading after that

Have we watched the same E3s these last two years? PS4 has Final Fantasy XV, and VII, Shenmue 3, Kingdom Hearts, Horizon, etc... Xbone has Titanfall 2, Cuphead, Halo, ReCore, etc...

Not to mention the Souls Games, Gravity Daze 2, Guilty Gear, Blazblue, Xenoverse 2, etc...

They all sound a lot better than a Smash Bros that's lost soul, 2 Zelda Remasters, Mario Platformer no. 15, the 8th Mario Kart, a 5th Paper Mario, the 20th Kirby game, the 6th Yoshi platformer, etc.. etc...

I'm sorry, what?

>Nintendo will leave the console race and go third party in your lifetime
Feels good man.

>For Honor

Leave please

>Sister bought an Xbone before she moved here, but it doesn't work here due to the different voltages.
This is a shit purchase alright. No games, doesn't work and is bigger than a fucking brick. How did you let that happen?

Wii U emulator isn't good enough yet. You'll have to wait for more. I suggested the PC because it would have multiple uses for you, your sister and your brother plus all the games you have been missing.

On another note. I doubt BotW will be bad considering what we've seen so far.

Yes, Because three clones of mediocre PCs is what the market needs.

Nigga u stoopid?

And you people still wonder why the industry is getting worse.

No?

She lived on the other side of the world before moving here. They had all 3 concosles, sister brought the bone with her, brother kept the WiiU and PS4. He never plays WiiU, and gets free PS4 games from friends all the time, and is playing Overwatch with my cousing atm. Tbh, yeah, I feel fucking left out.

I regret buying this shit console.

>Have we watched the same E3s these last two years?
>proceeds to list games that still aren't out yet before listing multiplats
You can't make this shit up.

everything has titanfall 2, and recore etc are on PC.

holy shit, it only gets worse everyday.

YEAH, games the WiiU doesn't FUCKING have. Huge surprise huh? Unless the NX can get a slice of that 3rd party cake, it's dead on arrival you stupid drones.

Oh man I didnt not say the WiiU wasnt garbage. But the xbone is just as trash as it

>games that aren't out
At least they have games coming out. Unlike the WiiU. Died halfway into its lifespan.
>is actually excited for the NX after all the shit Nintendo's pulled
You can't make this shit up.

Don't disagree there senpai.

>and go third party in your lifetime.
you mean go full mobile

Ohhh boy, gimmicks

>People are excited for upcoming PS4 games because the WiiU has nothing coming out for it
Is it really that surprising you stupid drone?

Nintendo consoles top sellers have always been Nintendo first and second party titles, Sony consoles top sellers have always been third parties with a few second parties like Gran Turismo. They don't need third parties and clearly don't give a fuck about them at this point. What they need to do is solve the problem of game droughts that's been plaguing their consoles since the N64.

I never even said I was excited for the NX, I just pointed out how its been almost three years of waiting for the same fucking games year after year.

You should instead keep the console and go over to your brother's home. That way you can have the best of both worlds.

Honestly, the PS4 still has a few standout titles, and more importantly, third party. The Wii U is fucking garbage if you like playing good games, I say this as a launch owner. Anyone who defends it is a legitimate retard with no taste.

Does anyone else think its interesting how Nintendo fans constantly say hardware and graphics don't matter, when the N64 and Gamecube were actually competitive with other systems in terms with hardware? People praised the 3d on the N64, and the NGC got a decent amount of multiplats, the only real weakness being no online capabilities. Hell, the whole 64-bit thing, plus the RAM expansion were major marketing tools for the N64. Then Nintendo releases two weak consoles in a row and suddenly it's "hurr hardware doesn't matter!" Nintendo completely changes their philosophy on hardware, and people just rolled with it like it wasn't a big deal? What's funny is if the NX went all out and tried to outpower the PS4 Pro you KNOW Nintendo fans would be bragging about it.

>they don't need 3rd party
>they need to solve the game droughts

My brother lives on the other side of the world.

They need 3rd party now considering how low the quality of their first party has stooped. If the new Smash had been as good as Melee, then I'd agree with you. But considering all the best games on both the WiiU and Wii were 3rd party...

They're not Nintendo fans, they're neoNintendrones. All the Nintendo fans moved over to Sony when the Wii went casual.

>My brother lives on the other side of the world.
Not the other guy but planes are a thing. So are jobs.

>Moved to Sony
>Wii has no good games meme
Here's your (You)

>What they need to do is solve the problem of game droughts that's been plaguing their consoles since the N64.
Maybe they could do that if they had, you know, 3rd party support. First parties can't carry a console, hell, the N64 would not be remembered nearly as fondly if it weren't for Rare. Nintendo has a history of treating third party devs like shit and then wonders why their consoles get no games at the tail end of generations. Sony and Microsoft actively invest in 3rd party titles, while Nintedno expects everyone to come to them. That doesn't fucking work when you have the lowest console sales.

>wont play 3DS games
Not even once

Those arent really Nintendo fans, there just hipsters and Nintendo is a way for them to 'belong'

>They don't need third parties
yeah sure thing like said without third party the game droughts will happen again

>the N64 would not be remembered nearly as fondly if it weren't for Rare
And they were second party.

>Travel to the other side of the world to play PS4 games
Flights across the Atlantic cost around a 1000 dollars. Are all Nintendrones this dumb?

This so much. Before Wii, Nintendo still had some of their "hardcore" fans from the NES/SNES era that didn't ask for any of that casual wagglan shit, they just wanted a normal game and a normal controller to play on a normal console. It's truly sad what's left of Nintendo.

Nintendo have never made a normal controller because they set the norms. The Wii was still shit though and so was wagglan.

I travel a lot and I'm not a nintendrone, I'm a PCfag.
You can get much cheaper flights depending on the time of the year and the flight company and you surely can afford them even with a half decent job.
Before calling someone names make sure they don't know jack shit about what they are talking about.

read between the lines

He's saying the NX is a causal-fest console that will appeal to children, women, and your grandparents. The only reason he likes it is because it'll exploit the most easily manipulated demographics in society.

Shit like candy crush makes big bucks, but is creatively bankrupt. Essentially just a new form of slot machine to engage your neurons with.

And why the fuck would I spend hundreds of euros on flying across the world JUST to play PS4? That's fucking retared. When I travel to visit my family, is spend TIME with my family, not play fucking videogames you autist. Jesus fucking Christ.

It's not even a "get a job" issue, that's fucking retarded. Even the cheapest flight across the Atlantic is MORE expensive than a PS4. If anything, the POINT of buying the console would be to bridge the distance between me and my family on the other side of the world.

Are you retarded?

360 came out a year before Wii.

who is this semen demon?

Except the waggle shit is finding a place on VR right now, and you are forgetting that everyone rushed the shit out of wiimote clones. Forgetting about move and kinect?

*gulp*

>Forgetting about move and kinect?
No, those were shit just like VR. I was including them in the wagglan shit.

Wiimote problem is trying shoehorning on every game possible. It's cool to keep around for a shooter or some game that need pointers like a SRPG. They really tried to force the damn thing.

But well, gyro on controllers can stay.

It's a facebook photo, you can reverse image search it and get her account.

youtube.com/watch?v=mKztreA6e7Y

I don't know how any one could be hyped for something with practically zero information on it but yet is supposedly releasing soon. Brilliant strategy I must say.

This.

Motion controls will find a nice home in PC where they're not mandatory or shoehorned in order to justify a gimmick.

Only hardcore Nintndrones are hyped, everyone else is shitting on it. Read the thread. NX is DoA.

that was painful to listen to

Just like the last two? Great, it'll be an excellent system just like those ones.

To be fair, after Nintendo was BTFO both of the last two time that they tried making straightforward gaming machines (and the second time by a gimmick console), much as I hate to say it, I can't really find fault in their decision to not even try anymore; I mean, at least they're one for two with stupid gimmicks

The hybrid idea still makes a lot of sense to me because they pushed 3ds having WiiU games hard, at the end of direct Reggie said "no better time to get a 3ds then now", and even through out mentioned "the new 3ds xl" many times, that's a company selling out before the sales drop hits. Reminds me of PSmove/PS2 ads in India before sony finally discontinued PS2.

NX will most likely have WiiU/3ds games with some exclusives, it goes along with their centralized market idea and it helps them leverage their distributed ips(across platforms) better. The 3ds gimmick then will be the 3d.

Sup Ruggarell!

WE

I bought a Wii U just to play splatoon.

I played it for like 80 hours over the course of a few weeks staying with my abusive and controlling father (I need to stay on his good side by seeing him from time to time so he doesn't take his anger out on my mother).

So all in all the system and game cost about 400$, so 400/80 = about 5$/hour which is fine for entertainment to me.

>I love my Wii U
>Stopped showing support for it and now pouring all their attention into a new console in the same generation
>I-I wasn't betrayed
This is beyond sad
Bought a Wii U day one btw

Oh yeah last gen was won by soccer moms and their wii

I own a hacked n3DS. The 3DS has a pretty disappointing library, and the WiiU has a pretty shit one. If the NX is a mix pf those two, it'll be disappointing at best.

>betrayed
And they still release material for the Wii U. But yeah, they are focusing on the NX right now because the Wii U failed, mostly due to the name.

And yeah, I love it. It's the best console this gen.

>Nintendrones in a nutshell.

Move out of your house fuckhead.

I don't live in my house.

I went there as a """vacation""" to appease him because he was taking his upset with not seeing me out on my mother.

>tfw Watch Dogs WiiU was supposed to be the middle ground between the 360/PS3 version and the X1/PS4 versions
>it ran like ass and was only slightly better than the completely crippled PS3 version
Ubisoft went out of their way to make sure that port tanked

Why do Nintendrones always bring up their personal issues on forums unrelated to them? I see this shit all the goddamn time.

>Still releasing material for the Wii U
>Haven't announced a single new game for it in months
>most of their best selling games are getting 3DS ports
>focusing all their efforts on the NX and putting all their hype into it
>T-they haven't betrayed us guys
okay

If you ignore Paper Mario, sure.

This happened too with the Wii and Wii U, i don't know why Ubisoft likes to hype new nintendo consoles, their games sucks to begin with except the latest Rayman games.

Paper Mario looks like ass.

Because Nintendrones eat that shit up.

>Because Nintendrones eat that shit up.
Clearly not since they always stop supporting their consoles.

Dont be a waffle and pretend playstation fans don't want hype and promises

>same for DK
Hey fuck you guy I've been playing that game since release and I'm still three levels away from getting every Shiny Gold medal. Literally takes hours per level.

BRUH
Paper Mario look comfy as fuck.

And stop calling people Nintendrones. I'm a Master Idort level 5 with a Gaming PC and all the consoles dating down to the fourth gen.

>Make a post like an underaged neogafer

>Expect nobody to call you out

wew, the fact you're responded means Iam right on the money

>> in- before the nx is backwards compatable with all previous Nintendo consoles and handhelds

>vs a fucking phone
Why don't you also include house and TV sales you fucking retard

>more importantly, third party
>The Wii U is fucking garbage if you like playing good games

Hahahahaha

Name me 5 "good" third party games that came out on the PS4 that Sony is benefiting from, and I do mean good.

So it's like having the inbred hillbilly kid with multiple deformities go up to the class tard and tell him he's pretty?

As a WiiU owner, it looks like ass.

>I'm a master idiort.
Sure you are. You sound more like a Nintendrone.

>People can't own more than one console

>say anything about nintendo without using the words "shit" or "cuck"

>YOURE A NINTENDRONE

Nah I think it's a bit more sincere but for reasons beneficial for Ubisoft. Ubisoft was the biggest third party on Wii but not on PS or Xbox and their AAA games are slipping compared to the other biggest third parties.

I think it's a case of that the better Nintendo do the better Ubisoft can do compared to EA, Activision, 2K and Warnerbro. The better Ubisoft do the easier they can stave off the Vivendi buyout, so the NX might be very important to Ubisoft and Guilmot.

Because mobile gaming is cannibalizing handhelds?

Not him, but Bloodbourne, Persona 5, Gravity Daze 2, Guilty Gear Revelator, Witcher 3, Destiny, Final Fantasy XV, Horizon, idk... I don;t own a PS4, but it's got plenty of good shit. GTAV? Fallout 4? Street Fighter V. KoF XIV.

Only a delusional Nintendrone would defend Color Splash. Everyone who loved what Paper Mario was hates what the series has become. Defending Color Splash is like defending Federation Force, or Brawl, or Other M, or Skyward Sword, the NSMB series.

Blame Nintendo for making shit games.

Only a true fool would make assumptions without any evidence, experience, or proof.

Sure bro. Total Nintendo fanboy with a Ps4, Xbox One, Xbox 360 and Ps3, Ps2 Xbox, Ps1 Dreamcast...

youtube.com/watch?v=m_Q0hDxGfww

>Does anyone else think its interesting how Nintendo fans constantly say hardware and graphics don't matter,

[citation needed]

Blog post

Hardware and graphics dont make a good console no.

The gameboy could have had a colored screen, but it went with Monochromatic because it was cheaper, was less strain on the batteries and allowed devs to make games for the system quickly because they knew how it worked.

Fuck off you stupid drone, and quit drinking that Nintendo Kool-aid.

You are one seriously sad individual. People who treat gaming as more than a hobby are pathetic. Don't you have anything more meaningful with your life?

didn't they also praise the wii u and then proceeded to release 2 games for it

Therapy is often available on a sliding scale based on income. It can be received at little to no cost if you don't have insurance.

Oh, so is that how you support your gaming addiction? Don't have to work as you're classified as mentally ill?

Well, I suppose that if no one will hire you, gaming is a decent escape.

How is it not my hobby?
>I cant insult him for being a nintendo fanboy better find some meaningless insult!

Come on bro. You are being silly.

That's a nice cactus.

First of all, many of us have now been playing games for 25 years. I don't know if you're young, but if you keep playing, you will rack that up easily.

Secondly, if you're not an enthusiast, why are you even here?

Life is meaningless so yeah you can fuck off.

>People were excited for No Man Sky
It was total shit
>People excited for upcoming game
80% will probably be meh tier at best, even if I hope to be wrong.

I was call you out on being pathetic the first time you mentioned having so many consoles, but opted for not doing it since you sounded too much like a drone. For the record, owning Nintendo consoles exclusively doesn't make you a drone, being apologetic to their bullshit makes you a drone. I ONLY own a Nintendo consoles atm, and I'm MOST critical of them. Because I grew up with them, and I knew how good they used to be.

Seriously though, who the fuck has that much time for gaming? Who the fuck plays over 3000 games and keeps a list of it?

Because enjoying video games doesn't mean I'm a fanatic?

Because seeing rampant apologetic fanboyism toward corporate bullshit pisses me off?

I've been gaming since 1993 when my uncle gave me his NES with all his games, but that doesn't mean I'm loyal to any company, or that I'm so obsesssed with games that I literally make them my life. I've got other things going on too.

So fuck you too buddy,.

Life is what you make of it. So if you make your life meaningless, then yes, it very well is.

Thanks. It is very nice, I plan on getting a couple more actually.

Me? Tons of people? If somebody had 3000 books at home, would you say the same? No.

How about you do something productive with your life.

Also, books actually make people more intelligent, videogames... are just mindless entertainment.

i MIGHT if it has 3rd party support outside of ubishit

Give it up user. He doesn't have time to argue with you about children's things. It's time to grow up and be a mature family man (or lady, i guess).

Video games are just as interesting and thought provoking as books. Saying that Twilight is more interesting than Spec Ops : The Line is ignorant as fuck.

How about you do something more interesting? I make 75K a year, have a condo, a car. I'm pretty well set in life.

>1000 games
>30% beaten
Shit I thought my backlog was terrible. You literally don't have to buy a single video game more in your life

Yeah. A lot of them are pretty small though. It would take about 3 years and 4 months to beat my whole collection.

>Buy a Wii U to play Xenoblade X
>Get a cheap Wii U with Mario Kart 8 installed on it
>Play Xenoblade X
>Mario Kart 8 is shit
>Try Fast Racing Neo, it's alright
>Have literally nothing else to play and nothing else I want
>Almost no games ever go on sale
>Digital store charges full price
What the fuck is the deal with this shit? With any other console game prices go down if you want a few months but good luck getting any slightly older Wii U games for less than their initial price.

This thing has been sitting here unused for months now.

Are you seriously so insecure you're gonna have an e-penis measuring contest in on an anonymous board?

From the sound of it, it certainly doesn't sound like you've made it. If you had, you wouldn't need to prove yourself to total strangers on Cred Forums.

Also, pic related.

Also, comparing Spec Ops to Twilight, LOL. Keep it going please, this is amusing.

what about the selects range?
or, heck, piracy is piss-easy on wii u.

>I make 75K a year, have a condo, a car. I'm pretty well set in life.
And still has no girlfriend...

This is pretty sad user.

Well you are insulting me for having a lot of wealth and for me choosing to invest it in video games and other things after 26 years of playing video games.

You are the kind of guy that call people Nintendrones, so I figure you are not that smart, but come on.

Is it? Last I heard only like a quarter of the games were pirateable.

Who says I dont? How would that matter either way? I also have a somewhat large board game collection so that I go out and hangout with people.

Bro, you are pathetic. Holy shit, I can't believe you actually got buttblasted from a couple words thrown at you on Cred Forums, hahahahaha. Wow, this is sad. I can't believe you have such thin skin.

Also, this

>I cant call you a fanboy, so I will keep trying to insult you

Sure bro. I have more video games than you, from a tons of consoles.

And I love the Wii U. Deal with it.

not him, but man oh man do you need to go find something better to do with your day.

M8, holy fucking shit, this is getting very cringy now, just stop.

youtu.be/SpnR5Sowh-w?t=28s

Video related, literally you right now.

>I have more videogames than you, so ha!
>I may have won the game... but he's winning at life

Ahahahahahaha, please keep going you stupid Nintendrone, I haven't laughed this hard in ages. Ahahahaha

I really should just start drawing, but this is too rich.

Hey bro.

The Wii U is great. Deal with it. Best console this gen.

Fanboys are people who dont have enough money to become idorts and whine about their choices being the best. I dont have this problem. I'm objective.

I don't understand why someone would be mad for only buying one console. If you really wanted you could buy another one, there is nothing really stopping anyone from buying another console.

brah

bruh.

But, I've shown you I OWN a WiiU, here , and I'm calling you out for being an apologetic Nintendrone. I can very easily dish out more money to buy all the consoles like you, but unlike you, I have better things to do with my life than play videogames all day.

Because some people have limited time to play videogames, and when you make a console that loses support, or has shit games, it become a poor investment. Why on earth would you spend 1000s of dollars buying all the consoles and every meaningful game for them, just buy a PC at that point.

There's a difference between having money, and spending money stupidly.

Holy shit, this just gets better and better. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>WiiU is the best console this gen
>I'm objective

Cool, you own a wii U. Does not mean you are right.

I'm not apologetic at all. I love the Wii U. It gave me great gameplay and actually great games this gen compared to my Ps4 and Xbox One. It had great and different gameplay.

Did Nintendo stop giving use a lot games? Yes. Why? Because the Wii U didnt sell well due to the name. But that does not mean that the Wii U does not have great games and is not the best console this gen.

ITT: some retard/falseflag feeds shitposters
embarrassing on all levels

WiiU is pretty shit m8. I'd agree with you, if Nintendo hadn't killed support for it 2 years ago. It's sold like shit, because it IS shit. You OPINION, isn't objective fuckface.

I'm objective when I say that the Ps4 and Xbox One are worst consoles than the Wii U. Yes. Worst games, and they are just worst pc's with maybe 3 games each that are not on PC itself.

not him, but support died this year, not sure where you're getting '2 years ago' from.

Remember this?

yes, it was a shit E3, but there were some decent releases in 2015.

Not all the games released on a console get released for the PC. If video games are your hobby, I don't understand why you would limit yourself to only buying one console, and then also decide not to build a PC at the same time as a result of that decision. To play all the noteworthy games, you need a sony console, a nintendo console, a nintendo handheld and a PC. I understand not buying a Sony console, since the lack of good exclusive games is really true.

Nah m8. PS4 has all the multiplats, and unlike the WiiU, a future. I still wouldn't buy one as I've learned with buying current gen consoles, but the PS4 is easily the better option between the two.

Last good release was Splatoon, and that was in May. So I guess year and half ago, two is kinda pushing it. But considering the console had a two year drought after launch, the WiiU getting killed halfway into the generation is hardly justified.

Didn't he do this with the Wii U?

The PS4 is a worst PC. There is no benefit to have a PS4 instead of a gaming PC.

If somehow, you only wanted a console due to budget reasons, sure the PS4 would be the best.

But for a idort? The best is the Wii U. Unique games and experiences with two other worst PC's with no reasons why the games are not the PC.

And why would you buy a Nintendo console when they are all emulatable halfway into their lifespan?

its a great game but repetitive if you dont absolutely love it. Its updated frequently and new characters added every few months to keep things fresh. Its also multiplayer only except the tutorials. I love it but its not for everyone.

Kirby and Yoshi disagree with you.

They praised the Wii U at one point too

An idiort would just emulate Nintendo games instead of throwing money away on a company that actively shits on their fans.

And there are plenty of games on PS4 that are not on PC. PS3 or Xbone, maybe, but not PC. It's also got tons of exclusives headed its way that won't be coming to PC. Persona 5, Revelator, Horizon, Bloodbourne, Kingdom Hearts, FFXV, TLG, etc...

>actually citing kiddy trash.
M8...

I hope this means more Rayman

Show me one time they "shat on their fan"?

just off the top of my head 2015 had splatoon, xcx, woolly world, smm, pokken. Maybe you dislike those or something, I don't know, but it still got major releases hence wasn't dead - whether you didn't personally like them isn't relevant to the subject.

gamingreinvented.com/news/nintendo-trying-take-adult-fan-art/
ign.com/articles/2016/08/08/nintendo-shuts-down-metroid-2-fan-remake-am2r
dailydot.com/esports/smash-mod-project-m-shuts-down/
gamesindustry.biz/articles/2015-05-29-region-lock-stubbornness-costs-nintendo-a-pr-win
eventhubs.com/news/2013/jun/21/sakurai-says-smash-bros-isnt-fighting-game-completely-different-label-talks-game-development-fighting-genre-and-value-unpredictability/
change.org/p/nintendo-of-america-nintendo-of-europe-stop-the-censorship-of-japanese-nintendo-games-in-western-regions

youtube.com/watch?v=-VJ2aK7VYDk

I dont understand the justifcation of pirates for saying things "Why doesn't nintendo make x game?", when the game they made did not sell well because they decided to pirate or emulate the game. Games sales are still important for a game's series survival. Xenoblade Chronicles only sold 1 million copies worldwide according to VGChartz. Yet the internet would have you believe it sold more than that due to everyone emulating, or pirating the game.

Splatoon was good, but very limited in terms of content. I only forgive it cause I got it for 40 bucks

XCX was the most disappointing garbage I've had the displeasure of playing.

Kirby and Yoshi are LITERALLY aimed at children.

SMM was massively inferior to all the level editors that have been available for ages.

After XCX, I gave up on buying Nintendo games, Pokken reviews coming out as mediocre competitively made me not care for it. I already have one casual fighter I wish I hadn't bought with the new Smash Bros.

StarFox was Trash, TMS was never on my radar after the bait and switch... and Color Ass looks like ass. Literally only Zelda and Yooka Laylee to look forward to, and Zelda I'm doubtful on after Skyward Sword and with Aonuma saying he toned down the night because it was "too scary."

>staying with my abusive and controlling father (I need to stay on his good side by seeing him from time to time so he doesn't take his anger out on my mother).
Nobody cares.

Anyone can send DCMA in the name of any company.

And why the fuck this shit is just happen on dumblr and not on deviantart or other sites?

Totally understandable for a family friendly company that does not want to be associated with porn.

Copyright infringement
Copyright infringement
Region Lock is due to pressures from stores, so that import and censoring stuff cant be imported.
Sakurai opinion on Smash is not bad
Censorship is due to the ESRB and Pal equivalent and their interpretation of Kid friendlyness. Japan censor games featuring Nudity and Violence while the rest of the world censor lewdness mostly.

Not an insult.

People would actually support Nintendo, if Nintendo actually supported their fans. Emulation on Nintendo started getting rampant after the Wii, ergo, when they went full casual and hung their fans out to dry, forsaking the quality of their mainline titles for a broader appeal. They bring it upon themselves. Also, region lock. yeah, nah, fuck Nintendo.

I'm an artist, and it does happen on other sites too. Also, did you forget the youtube partner fiasco and them going after Lets plays?

not the same user.

I'm not convinced the porn takedowns are legitimate (as in, actually Nintendo doing it)

AM2R and Project M technically were breaking copyright.

I have no idea why Nintendo uses a region-lock, so I can't really comment on that one - my best guess is it may be a means of them controlling the distribution of games per region, but there's no evidence to back that up. In short, your point here seems valid.

I don't think Sakurai represents the entirety of Nintendo as a corporation - however he thinks Smash should be is really up to him, being that it is his franchise.

I'm not certain what the censorship is for, but I've always kind of suspected it's related more to appeasing the needs of the rating systems per region rather than censoring for the sake of it (which would make no sense whatsoever), but I simply do not know).

Why did you link a fed force review?

Sure you kool-aid drinking drone. And it's their decisions, as well as a loyalist fanbase as incessant as you why I'm totally done with Nintendo products from here on.

>it does happen on other sites too.

Do you have any proof of this? You can even send DCMA to yourself if you want, tumblr mods don't check the damn source.

Also fuck let's players.

How am I a drone. You included two copyright infringement cases. Both with LITERAL asset thief.

Lawyers do this all the time, it's their job to make sure the brand do not get devalued by thiefs with fake games.

>Tries desperately to make a clown of somebody else
>Ends up making himself the biggest fool ive seen in a long while
It's not every day you get to see somebody shoot themselves in the foot this badly.

Did you watch the video? Yatzee is a longtime Metroid fan and his anger is exemplary of ALL Metroid fans.

PM and AM2R actually fall under fair use, but no one has the money to combat corporate lawyers, as fair use isn't a right, it's a legal defense in trial. Likewise, Capcom, SEGA, Valve, Bethesday, and even EA openly endorse mods and fangames, meanwhile Nintendo actively shuts them down, despite being up to their actual quality. That is LITERALLY shitting on your fans.

And Sakurai's philosophy can be seen in other Nintendo games he's not involved with, most of the Wii's 1st party library is exemplary of this, with lengthy excessive tutorials, hand-holding, cartoony artstyles, etc...

Nintendo is still doing something illegal.

Also there was a twitter post on here a few days ago from NoA where they were recruiting copyright defenders. People to go around filing DMCAs to protect their IP. That's all the evidence you need.

>ubisoft ceo praises nx and wii
>bashes cube and wiiu
Preorder canceled.

>Yatzee is a longtime Metroid fan and his anger is exemplary of ALL Metroid fans.
yatzee isn't representative of the metroid fanbase. Also, doesn't fed force tease an upcoming metroid mainline release?

Actually, the AM2R dev made all the assets himself from scratch. Likewise with PM, they either used stuff already found IN the game, and played around with it, or inserted assets they themselves made from scratch.

Likwise, it's not theft as they made no profit from it, AND could only be used if a legal copy of Brawl was owned. This is perfectly legal, and protected under court by fair use. It's just no one has the money to dispute corporate lawyers in court. Even if you win, which you would in court, the fees alone would make you broke for life.

Preorders are not up yet.

Only time that Nintendo did something to stop porn was with paheal, and they only told them to change the damn tag to porkyman because google was showing r34 before anything official.

It is a fucking waste of time going tumblr after tumblr just to DCMA a single damn image and not the entire damn tumblr down.

>PM and AM2R actually fall under fair use
no, they were making money via ad revenue, that's why they got taken down.

Did you see the trailer for Fed Force? It was disliked into oblivion it literally made news? Are you really that retarded? Why are you retroactively rewriting history when we all know EXACTLY how Metroid fans feel about FF.

No they weren't. PM site was add free. And making money through add revenue is still legal.

No. the AM2R used assets from the GBA Metroid game. and Project M is just a hack using nintendo assets. Come on.

And asset thieft does not require you from making money out of it. You released a game, for public consumption, using Nintendo content. It's bad for the brand because if somebody play it and somehow think the game sucks, and is buggy or what ever, then Nintendo has to deal with a potential customer thinking it was a Nintendo product.

So yeah, it is theft. Just because you dont sell it back, does not mean it's not illegal.

Making money through add revenue is perfectly legal. Copyright protects the reselling of original content in order to make money off of it, and only if its not protected by fair use.

>And making money through add revenue is still legal.
pretty sure it isn't when you're making money from an IP without permission to do so.

>ignoring the last part of the post

I dont think you understand how copyright laws work.

Fair use does not work like that either. Fair Use does not allow you to say "This is a Metroid game that I made". That's not parody, educational, informative. It's just brand theft and asset theft.

You are still trying to justify not buying a system and game. The quality of the Wii games was still pretty high quality and yet here you are saying that they forsake the hardcore audience, for the casual audience. Wii was released in 2006, emulator support was released in 2008. The casual audience is what supports nintendo console sales, since the hardcore will do backflips to justify not buying the system. Then complain when they dont cater to them. The best selling wii games are all their casual games. Super Mario Galaxy sold only 12.5 million games on a console with 100 million in sales. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption sold 1.41 million. Donkey Kong Returns outsold the entire Metroid Prime series with only 6.53 million copies. Which is the reason that Retro decided to do a sequel to Donkey Kong before Metroid.

Read up on copyright law, you have no idea what you're talking about. Under a trial, Nintendo would lose, just like they lose the gameshark trial. Fair use protects mods, it always has. Problem is, fees alone would make you go broke even if you won the trial, this is why no one disputes Nintendo, and Nintendo knows this, this is why they abuse copyright to take down mods.

Also, the AM2R dev based his sprites off Zero Mission, but compare them yourself, they're original. Everything in the game is original.

All of this, is a perfect example of them SHITTING ON THEIR FANS.

Ubisoft can eat a dick.

It is legal. Check the copyright law. Fair use dude. Otherwise reviews and such would be impossible.

Ubisoft said this exact same crap about the Wii U.

They would not lose. Fair use does not protect mods, mods are tolerated. Can you show me a single court trial?

Neither were Transformative enough to be fair use.

And even if the assets are original. He still called his game Another METROID 2 Remake. That's illegal. Metroid is branded and copyrighted.

Come on, you cant be dumb like this and not understand why Nintendo had to stop them.

It has nothing to do with "shitting on fans", it's 100% buisness. Lawyers HAVE to do it, or else other people can just say "Well they let those guys do it, why cant I?" and a judge would agree.

different user here, the reason AM2R was breaking copyright isn't to do with assets as he said, it's to do with the IP - they didn't have permission to use that likeness. Fair Use, in short, applies mostly to parody or informative (e.g. documentary, review, discussion) material - to put it in an analogy, if I made my own film set in the Star Wars universe with Star Wars characters I'd be breaking copyright: even if I put the film out for free, I'd still face legal action once caught.

You do not understand Fair use at all.
Reviews are protected under fair use because it's informative. It's also transformative. Stealing assets from a video game and stealing the brand is not covered under fair use.

Learn stuff. Please.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Galoob_Toys,_Inc._v._Nintendo_of_America,_Inc.

> The court also made arguments about the importance of allowing freedom to innovate, comparing the Game Genie to the important innovation of spell-checkers that enhanced existing word processor programs. A finding of copyright infringement in this case, the court warned, might chill innovation and fail to protect society’s interest in the free flow of ideas, information, and commerce.

fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/what-is-fair-use/
>In its most general sense, a fair use is any copying of copyrighted material done for a limited and “transformative” purpose, such as to comment upon, criticize, or parody a copyrighted work. Such uses can be done without permission from the copyright owner.

It's protected.

They called the game ANOTHER METROID 2 REMAKE.

Valve told the Black mesa devs to drop the Source part on title because it sounded like official thing. If they used another name none of this could had happened

Wii era all over again

Then tell me, why do Bethesda, EA, and Valve embrace mods while Nintendo shuts them down?

And how come Nintendo fans are the only ones to defend this bullshit, when Nintendo could easily adopt these mods works like other companies have.

try reading the posts above you.

>Valve told BM to change the name, and allowed the mod.
>Nintendo just shuts it down
>Nintendo fans still defend them
>B-but, they're not shitting on their fans
Yeah, OK. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

How is AM2R and Project M Criticize, comment or Parody.

It's not. And the Game Genie won because it allowed to change the code directly from the game, but the game didnt change itself.

Both games are literally different games with different assets plucked together and make games that use Nintendo brand without permission.

They don't explain shit you stupid Drone.

Dude, you should finish yourself off to let that Hate Boner go.

they could remake AM2R without any likeness to metroid and that'd be fine, it was probably just too much work for them to do so, though - since it's literally a remake of metroid.

It's transformative, those three are just examples. And fair use doesn't require permission.

Fair use requires that it be transformative.

Only thing they had to do is change the damn name to something else you bloody faggot.

At least they didn't go full retard like Pokemon Uranium faggots that made a patreon for the fucking game.

>NDF actually defending corporate greed

Nintendo fans are the worst.

highly relevant: youtube.com/watch?v=dGlnKvjLFOs

...

They just made a new game with Nintendo licenses. You clearly dont understand the problem.

>Meanwhile entire games and genres have been made as derrivative mods from existing franchises, but Nintendrones will still defend their favorites company's IP being used to make a product of higher quality.

And that's not even the whole point. The issue here, is that's a very grey area in fact, that would have to be debated in court desu. But the fact remains that other companies have openly embraced mods. Like all the Skyrim mods or Command and Conquer mods that pretty much change the whole game by either using or adding assets. Yet EA won the Golden Poo, but Nintendo fans still claim Nintendo "doesn't shit on its fans."

And them taking down mods is only ONE of like 7 example I posted.

Seen that video. Buckley is actually highly uninformed on that issue.

Please stop.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_the_Ancients

>doesn't even try to explain why

PM didn't got shot down by Nintendo.

>I have no defense
>please stop

Nintendo is shitting on their fans. Quit defending corporate greed.

Strawmanning
Yet no one answers for:

It was. I'm friends with Nanobuds.

Dota was a mod in the custom game section of Warcraft 3.

That's why when Valve bought DOTA, they had to change everything about the game and make new characters.

DOTA not being Blizzard property does not mean that it would be fair use if they just released DOTA outside the Warcraft 3 client.

And this?

youtube.com/watch?v=61-OMrOxyso

We cant just keep answering the same stuff.
You dont understand what fair use is. Stop whining like a kid and go inform yourself.
We posted proofs and information, but you just keep posting wrong stuff. Fair use does not allow you to make a Metroid 2 game. It does not not. Stop claiming it does. You are wrong.

Go to a judge and ask him.

They didn't despite everything. Read the damn official site.

PM devs are working on unironically wavedash now.

>Strawmanning
how is that strawmanning?
I'm not the same user you've been arguing with, I just wanted to share that video as it's relevant and explained the problem reasonably well. If you feel it's incorrect then please explain why, instead of just going "hurr he's wrong tho".

>Yet no one answers for:
>
probably got permission from the copyright holders
>
again, the (very vague) examples you cite possibly got permission from the copyright holders, or weren't breaking copyright via not using copyrighted characters/brands/likeness, or just haven't been noticed yet.
>
see above

What about these?
youtube.com/watch?v=2sS5DYdCioY

What about this?
youtube.com/watch?v=rjD8A0Zkohg

>Moving goalposts
You asked me to give example of them shitting on fans. I gave such examples.

Anything else?

Interesting. Thanks for the link.

Are they hyping up the NX so that everyone will be disappointed?.

No permission was given in any of these cases.

"Two days after release, Capcom Senior VP Christian Svensson commented on the official Capcom website, Capcom-Unity, that the game has exceeded his personal expectations in terms of downloads, but no exact numbers have been released.[21] Capcom's Senior Community Manager, Brett Elston, noted that the amount of downloads during release was enough to cause significant strain on their servers"

Capcom allowed it to happen and agreed to it.

How do you even compare a Fangame being allowed by Capcom and a fangame not being allowed by Nintendo?

It's not how it work. One accepted and was informed before the project was released. The other was not.

how do you know?
what about the other explanations I gave, too?
It'd help if you could provide more info about the rather vague examples you gave.

fucking this. Couldn't have put it better myself; buckley was right in that video, as controversial as it is to many people this is simply how copyright works - the only way to truly be 'safe' from a takedown is to either ask for explicit permission before release, or don't use any likeness with the product you're basing it on (you could also try to turn it into a parody product, but the definition of parody in copyright is rather shady, so I'd call this a risky move).

And this?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike:_Source

Yeah, and Project M was successful enough to have its own tournaments, and Nintendo, rather than endorse it, or hire the devs, started to bully TOs to get rid of the mod, and then had an active hand in taking it down.

Nintendo knew PM was successful, and rather than doing what other companies have done:
They did everything they could to make PM go away.

Ergo, one company understand what fans want, and endorses them, and another company is out of touch and shits on its fans.

Mods are allowed by the devs. Nothing to do with Fair use.

I think you mistake not reacting and fair use. Just because it's not down yet, does not mean it's fair use. Nintendo does not want any fan game, and so they take them down.

Also, Mods are WIDELY different from different games.

Project M was not a Brawl mod anymore. It was a different entity. And Nintendo has a right to send a cease and desist to protect it's brand.

And I answered you that none of these are that. You are delusional.

>bully
It's business. It's not fucking bullying. They stole their content and tried to compete against their games at official sponsored events.
It's literally not bullying, it's Nintendo lawyers doing their basic job.

It's Nintendo shitting on its fans, no way around it. They could very well allow the mod to exist, or better yet, endorse it like it's happened in the past. Instead, they took it down.

I gave plenty of examples of companies allowing mods, and endorsing derivative works, both of which are things Nintendo has never done, opting for instead to take them down, rather than promote creativity. Ironic, considered their consoles are starved for games.

did you even read his post?

capcom were informed of the project before release, they gave permission to it ahead of time.

>And this?
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike:_Source
uh what about it?

It's shitting on their fans. Other companies have endorsed it, Nintendo shuts it down. End of story. Corporate greed, how can you defend this?

when other companies endorse fan project it's because said fan projects gained permission first.

No it's not. It's Nintendo protecting their brand. If you went and took God of War assets, made new levels for it, and then released it as "God of War 2 and a half!" It would be taken down as fast.

Come on. Please stop that.

A company allowing it and another not allowing it has nothing to do with anything.
>"Well my ex girlfriend accepted Anal! You are shitting on your boyfriend for not accepting anal!"

Do you work? Do you have any company work background, at all?

>Command and Conquer mods
>WoW OG servers
>Skyrim mods
>Megaman x SF
>CSS
>Dota
>Quake
list goes on...

That analogy has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand. You can't just throw an unrelated analogy and hope to make a point in order to defend your point of view.

You're literally defending a company protecting its IP when other companies have endorsed these things happening. And this is ONE of SEVEN examples of Nintendo shitting on its fans.

It's surprising that ONLY Nintendrones ACTUALLY defend a company taking a HUGE dump on them. It also extra sucks that the products THEY put out themselves are subpar in order to have "broader appeal."

>These retards will actually buy an NX

WoW OG Servers are not protected by Fair use, and Blizzard would take them all down if they could sue them all. But most of them are hidden in countries that do not care about copyright laws.

Just because some people allow it, does not mean that Nintendo has to allow it. It has no reflection on what they think about their fans. At all. It's not disrespect to not want your brand to be full of bad copy cats that use your brand.

DOTA is a mod. It's not a different game. If your game has a mod section, it's allowed. But it does not fucking mean you can steal the assets, and sell DOTA . That's not how it work.

Come on. CSS was SOLD to Valve too.

You are just being denser than the earth core right now.

>Wii U customers all feel betrayed?

Why would they? Just about every Wii U owner typically says they had fun with the console. Why would they feel betrayed? I feel the same. I had fun with the Wii U, but its time to move on. On to hopefully good, fun, and new games.

SOMEBODY DOING SOMETHING DOES NOT MAKE LAWS OR PEOPLE ENFORCING THE LAW INVALID.

If you get permissions from the devs to make a fan game, you can.

If you dont get permission, then you cant.

That's it. 100% over.

If my neighbor accept that kids play in his backyard, and I dont want them in my backyard, they cant go and cry that I dont want them trespassing in my backyard while he accept it.

Laws exists.

These games were NOT being sold, there was NOTHING stopping Nintendo from hiring these people to finish the project with proper funding themselves, and then selling the game as an officially endorsed product. I've given you half a dozen example of other companies doing just the same.

Not really, WiiU is a shit console. And I'm pissed support got killed early, and halfway into the generation.

that's just, like, your opinion man.
I agree with personally

Nintendo wanted give third parties free reign over stuff on WiiU for the first years, and they just skipped to ps4/xbone or kept on PS360.

On top of everything, some ports were just half arsed or just scraps. For sure, there is some good stuff like Deus ex or Most Wanted 2012. But third parties are the one that fucked over nintendo.

And ubisoft faggots delayed rayman for no damn reason because microsoft release policy.

But there is NO law saying you can't make mods of a game. There is nothing exquisitely illegal against it, as copyright defends IP in order to promote creativity and innovation by preventing people from taking someone's hard work and investment into RnD, and making a profit from it. Literally READ about copyright law, and how it came into being, and what it's MEANT to do, not how it's ABUSED by corporations. Mods fall into an undisputed grey area, and Nintendo could very well endorse these themselves.

And, even IF it was legal, that doesn't make it right. Laws that favor the rich over the poor do not suddenly make anything right you dumbfuck,

Nintendo didnt want to hire them, otherwise they would have

Sold or not, it's still illegal to release it.

ID software made Super Mario Bros 3 for PC back in the 80's. It was a proof of concept to show that the game could be made and they sent it to Nintendo. Nintendo didnt want to go on the PC market, and so they rejected the offer.

Do you think ID software should have released the game anyway? No.
They went and made their own game called Commander Keen instead.

Please. Inform yourself. Stop being an anarchist teenager and finish school. Stealing from rich corporations does not make it right.

Nice samefag senpai.

This happened thanks to Nitnendo's shit marketting, and devs having a hard time developing for their consoles due to Nintendo's halfassed and rushed release.

eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-secret-developers-wii-u-the-inside-story

It's entirely Nintendo's fault. Not the dev's. They at least tried, unlike Nintendo.