Do mods destroy the artistic vision?

are you a girl?
why the fuck are you so goddamn confusing

Haha, i'm glad you admitted you like the modded version more. Cred Forums just wants to be contrarian at all costs.

I know this is bait but how do they ruin the artistic vision? NOBODY forces you to install mods that change the graphics, you can play the game fine, there's nothing wrong with wanting to change the game you actually paid for, to change the look of it and how it works by installing some enb and better mods.
tl;dr op's gay

yeaaah you know what I'm just gonna grab some tequila and cigarettes right now

modded version is almost always better than vanilla. On the pic too.

Yes, they do, mods are shit and really fuck with games and how they were originally intended to be experienced. It's like dumping in megabloks, playmobile, and clay.

it's dumping in your own mold of lego, playmobile, and clay
do you not like making things?
shit, if mods were really shit, maybe the devs shouldn't have packaged the tools for modders to mess around with

>how they were originally intended to be experienced
don't give me that shit
you're full of shit

Nothing wrong with any community patches. Stop playing the game and don't mod it if you hate them so much. Are you retarded?

lmao the right one is actually moded you retard

You're a dumb son of a bitch aren't you? If I payed for a painting and want to scribble graffiti on it that's my prerogative. If you have a problem with that you should fucking kill yourself because no one gives a shit, certainly not the modding community you fucking console peasant.

Yes. But that's the point. They were shit visions anyway.

Why the fuck do devs think lighting is so hard to get right? Light doesn't have a sharp drop off like that.

Wait a minute, the vanilla game doesn't look like the left from what I remember.

They know how to get it right, it's just too much for consoles. Lighting is always the first thing to get culled when downgrading the game.

RRRRREEEEEEEE Tards have one extra chromosome not missing ones.

lol

>play skyrim

Kill yourself

This.

Proper games on PC have very nice lighting, however for consoles the use of fog to hide LOD is very heavy.

Bethesda games are meant to be played on console. This is a fact.

>mods ruin games
LMAO, just installed photorealistic mod for gta 5 and it feels so fresh and better now, too bad it's melting my cpu.

t. 1st year art student trying to sound smart

>top
>atmospheric post apocalyptic wasteland

>bottom
>generic looking desert area with saturation

>bandwagon brigade
Kill yourself.

"muh vanilla atmosphere"

>redditor
Kill yourself

>this post
>rectum wrecked console shitter

The only sane man in the thread.

>>atmospheric post apocalyptic wasteland
>piss filter is atmospheric

>photorealistic mod
>looks worse than vanilla

LOL

>implications
Kill yourself.

is the sun exploding part of the apocalypse?

I'll give you an lmao for that weak ass bait lmao

>that moment when green or orange tint is lauded as atmospheric and awesome instead of natural looking, aesthetically cohesive lighting

baka consolegoogles

"Muh letterbox saturated extremely zoomed in experience"

Whatever you say. I gotta be honest, the FXAA is the reason why it looks kinda shitty.

Only a redditor will like Skyrim and cry about muh bandwagon hate when called out on his shit taste, kill yourself

>maybe the devs shouldn't have packaged the tools
Lol they do that because they expect the moding community to the work for them

Depends on the mod

On the left side I only see shit and on the right side I can see at least something.

Never seen overcast?

Poor consolefags, they can't even use freecam and timestop in their games.

fuck off

youtube.com/watch?v=tvtX-QZkzYU

>that hand model

Dam Quake aged well

And only a bandwagoning bitch would repeat everything that's been said about every game ever and talk about "objective taste".
Kill yourself.

I think they just prefer to actually PLAY the games, you know, not pose dolls and take pretty pictures.

>that torch
Literally for what purpose? You see less in a forest when you use it than without it.

I fucking love the moon's lighting on the weapon. What enb/reshade/whatever is that?

Damn, the bottom looks really good

what texture mod is that?

That looks fucking outstanding.

>overcast
is that overcast made from the star that just exploded?

>Using sweetfx ever

Community Balance Patch for Civ 5 makes the game amazing, Warcraft 3 mods kept it going long past standard play.

>they can't even use freecam and timestop in their games

Dam I want to stop gameplay to take a cinematic screenshot with oversaturation and low DoF :(

Btw i play on PC but am not autistic to mod shitty games

welp time to reinstall FNV mod the shit out of it but never actually play it

Thats only Down syndrome you idiot. You can be retarded because of multiple causes, not all of them are genetic.

i am 99% sure the right one is vanilla

>just installed photorealistic mod

You sure about that?

No matter how much you mod it, it's still a shitty game running on a 16 year old engine.

Thanks Bethesda

lol you fucking retard. Most games emulate you looking through a lens of a camera, to what extent depends on the game, but most games do. When wanting to capture detail in the shadows , you have to up the exposure, which leaves the highlights burnt out. The same applies in reverse. The eye does this too, much faster and in segments, but yeah.

agreed

Other than the shitty AA it comes with it's pretty useless

>u-u can't criticise my shit, you see people before already pointed out the large flaws so you can't use the same points!

top has charm to it, bottom would feel like a mess to play in

I can't play NV with any visual mods other than one that fixes the lighting to make nights more dark

disgusting

Define charm.

>u
>criticise
So you're also retarded?
Makes sense, since you're years late to shit-flinging about Skyrim.

Polished turd is still a turd. You should kys for wasting time on modding any Shitthesda game or playing Shtithesda game in the first place.

Looks as shitty and low quality as everything else.

He's literally saying he's too lazy to find texture/mesh mods because it's all or nothing for him. Can't just change the weather and add an ENB.

The replies here are almost as retarded as (you), Faggot.

Charm: Adj.
What console peasants use to describe their shitty vanilla games, often used as a basis in arguments about modding.

eg:"Any kind of mods take the charm out of the game. People shouldn't be allowed to alter things they paid for."

Its never to late to criticize a shit game

>stop liking things I don't like

It has a defined art style that separates it from everything else and makes it unique, whereas with an ENB it looks like Crysis 2, the Syndicate Reboot, and all those other Shitty 2010 "next gen" games that just slap bloom and dof all over everything and it looks atrocious to play but has nice screenshots

can someone explain to me what this madman just wrote and how it applies to enb mods making the sky look like white bloom mess.

>Game gets ported to PC
>Gameplay unbearable on PC version
>Mod makes it playable

Yeah fuck mods.

In the OP image though, Which lighting is more realistic? I'm not talking about the fog because both of those can work depending on the time of day/cloud cover. The light emitting from the fire though. The image on the left doesn't seem to catch the fire's light correctly, the contrast in the right picture doesn't look correct either though,

>playing beth games

wew lad

It never ceases to amaze me how much better W3 looks with STLM.

It's like, the game can do ALL that, why did CDPR dial it back? For PC at least. There's barely any performance penalties too.

Implying new vegas is a betheada game

youtube.com/watch?v=6g6YBjZ9kxk&feature=youtu.be&t=5s

>shitthesda
>moving the goalposts to whining about bethesda games instead of modding

>Fallout: New Vegas
>bethesda
Spot the stupid nigger.

Exactly. They don't understand that mods are a fucking good thing. Doom wads being the best examples of giving a game longevity.

There's people in this thread that prefer the vanilla lighting. And people say there's no shit taste.

>90% of graphics mods just add even more splashy and unrealistic stuff
>Few actually make things more photoreal

Why are modders averse to subtlety?

Nuclear bombs do not cause things to become monochromatically orange

Of course they do. Haven't you played any of the fallouts?

I have played alot of games with enbs. The thing is Enbs/reshades are inconsistent. They will definitely look better at some places, but in others they might look worse than vanilla.
They can produce excessive saturation, darkness, contrast, gamma, sharpness, blur, etc. These settings are very hard to tweak to get an enb preset that looks good at all areas of the game.

I have also noticed that I get bored with enbs fast, I always get the urge to change enbs. The best thing is to just not use enbs/reshade at all.

Texture mods are fine.

"I think they just prefer to actually PLAY the games, you know, not pose dolls and take pretty pictures."

"the games" implies many games. New Vegas is the only one made by Obsidian and

"you know, not pose dolls and take pretty pictures." is applicable to every Beth game.

Your communication error, not mine.

>Using ENB's

It still runs on their shitty engine. Still has the same shit gameplay. It is still one of bethesda' turds.

why the fuck would someone want to have his game look like it's filmed through a shitty camera? are lens flares part of the mod too?

>using apostrophes inappropriately

whát?

What's the problem, you can really mod just Bethesda games at this point.
With Denuvo modding is pretty much dead already.

Beth is bound to use Denuvo at some point. Modding will be dead with their next big game.

y-yeah, mods are GAY

Well if its not genetic retardation then what's the point of the chromosome joke? Idiot.

the modded version is the one in the left

>ENB's

Ya shit im sorry misread the whole thing

You forgot your pic user

You had no argument, you dumb bitch.
Here's your image.
Seriously, kill yourself.

Yes it is.
See any Superman 64 threads ever?

What mod is that?

congrats

>make one reply
>somehow i managed to replicate your picture
kek

Sometimes

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Fantastic. Most of the people against modding are just tards who couldn't figure it out and broke their game. I don't see why one wouldn't at least try to make the game better through mods.

STLM looks horrible 99% of the time.

It's washed out with some sickening purple filter and it just makes it look unnatural as fuck. Don't get me wrong with how awful it looks in Touissant, the fucked up washed out colors that appear at night time among other bugs.

Stop shilling your shitty mod faggot.

>le one guy

ENB adds shadows to a few games that would otherwise not have them. Only idiots have issues with the mod.

>The thing is Enbs/reshades are inconsistent.
So make them consistent. It's not even remotely hard to do.

someone post the hl2 mod

you know the one

>It never ceases to amaze me
Maybe you've got short term memory loss.

see
STLM looks like dogshit.

I wish STLM didn't make the nights look like day

there's an STLM version that doesn't affect Toussaint at all.

Toussaint doesn't need any mods because it didn't get downgraded.

Also, nice percentage out of your arse.

>because it didn't get downgraded.
Yes it did. The game's engine was downgraded.

And he's right, 99% of the time it looks worse because of the bad contrast, fucked up skies, ugly LOD, and the way it shades flora.

see
The author has a version which doesn't affect Toussaint.

>have to literally remove STLM from an entire region
>this is in any way acceptable

Vanilla also looks better in your shitty picture m8. Enjoy your washed out colors and "9am night time"

>Toussaint doesn't need any mods because it didn't get downgraded.

Right > Left in your image

The colors look all washed out and outside of the blue fog, the colors just look horrible in the left picture. Look at the brightness of that fucking vegetation, christ.

Is this bait? I don't remember vanilla looking that bad at all.

>graphics don't matter
>unless you mess with them THEY'RE ART

I do see them as an art form, but they're games, not film.
If the ability is there in the files, the artist vision has obviously embraced altering of their art.
In the case of universal things like SweetFX, I can visually experience an interactive medium however makes me comfortable, as long as lighting isn't a pivotal part of the gameplay.
Seems silly to say bad lighting due to poor programing was intentional and there to "challenge" the player.

Mate, the picture is a troll. The left one is modded, the one on the right is vanilla.

I'm sorry.

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>those illuminated bushes

No way that's vanilla. The Vanilla Witcher 3 doesn't look that bad. Is this you trolling by pretending that the Modded version is actually the vanilla version?

Quick google of Vanilla vs STLM shows me this

imgur.com/a/UMROL

Vanilla >> STLM m8, Super Turbo Lighting looks disgusting

>Responds to bandwagoning with Reddit

Modded > Vanilla

Going by your picture

ULM > Vanilla > STLM

modded is better, vanilla is hurdur brown and bloom

Keep in mind that even the author of the mod has stated he prefers Vanilla lighting. The issue with Witcher 3 is that it has close to a hundred different lighting "models". one for each zone, one for each weather and one for each combination of zone/weather.

Its impossible for a mod desginer to take this into account without the actual dev tools (Essenthy has said as much before). So what you have is 2-3 zones that look fucking GORGEOUS and an infinite improvement, while the rest looks weird and totally out of place.

Here (imgur.com/a/UMROL) is an old comparison i made of the previous version of STLM 2.1 vs Vanilla. You can see that some places (swamps) look fucking drop dead gorgeous, but other places (interiors) look fucking ugly and washed out. Keep in mind it is an OLDER version so it may be fixed...but still..

I'd download the mod yourself and try it out to see if you like it, Essenthy has a history of only using the zones that the mod improves in the trailer and leaving out the zones the mod makes look worse.

Sorry m8, even the creator of STLM prefers Vanilla lighting

what a dumb thing to argue against. a mod can be just about anything, not just whatever pet shit you hate like ENBs or some jap dressup garbage. and "muh artistic vision" like someone's going to come to your house and take away your vanilla experience if a mod gets too popular or something

Why do you care how people enjoy their graphism, aren't choices a good things ? This is why pc will always be better because you can pick your settings to suit your taste.

There are more than one hundred.

>Its impossible for a mod desginer to take this into account
No it isn't. STLM did a fine job editing tons of shit, he just has bad taste and didn't make the mod modular.

They don't and anyone who says otherwise is baiting.

when did this become a meme. how does it even sustain itself when it's literally 100% shitposting.

is there anybody who actually believes this.

mods do anything you want them to

quit trying to rationalize your shitty purchase decisions, you sour grapes consolefag

Stop shilling your shit mod that only looks good in a handful of areas and complete shit in others

I'm not the one trying to trick people into praising your shitty mod just so you can feel better about using it you literal shill

It became a meme when Sonyoggers realized they weren't getting mods like everyone else, pretty funny desu

Did ya read my post?

ULM > Vanilla > STLM

ULM is an objective improvement over vanilla and you can toggle ENVs. Vanilla looks bad sometimes. STLM looks bad most of the time.

I never really liked mods and saw them as pic related. I understand a resolution fix for a broken game like Dark Souls but people spending countless hours trying to make their game look "good" and wasting countless hours troubleshooting shit are pure autism to me. Especially since the goal is not to actually play the game but to make the thing work in order to take pretty screenshots.

Mods do ruin the original vision, I got an out of the box Skyrim LE with a selection of 200 mods from my brother and playing it was one of the most boring shit ever, it looks nothing like the original, somehow plays better, but, even ignoring the porn mods lot of shit looks completely out of place. I don't know I just don't get it. Back in the early 2000s mods were all about new games, Team Fortress and Mobas started out as mods. Now mods are all "ralistic" grass, original color palette swap and taking...screenshots?

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fuck this makes me wish my pc was better

>no fps drops
Delusional pcuck. This games shitty engine means drops are inevitable.

detailed normals

literally

Left: Realistic, that's what interior lit by candles looks like

Right: Looks like clowns ass, coloured like a super mario game.

Thank you for demonstrating your shit taste.

Yes, the moderators always ruin my creative shitposts

> game comes out on pc
> add mods
> fixes interface, tweaks gameplay, improves graphics
> think one of the mods makes it look worse
> disable it

> game comes out on ps
> bugs, design issues, bad textures
> stuck with it forever

how is there even a competition nigger, playing on ps is literally like letting the devs cuck you.

How is ULM an objective improvement? The only thing it does that's even remotely good is the blue fog removal.

None of the lighting mods are better than vanilla purely due to their inconcsistency relative to Vanilla.

what is your system?

disable ambient occlusion and even a 570 HD at 1600 x 900 can take it

Fixed in a future update. Contain your autism.

This is why sonyggers have become the most hated demographic on this board.

Yes, vanillla looks consistently shit, very few mods can top that.

Go home Essenthy, your mods a shit

You cannot possibly think that this stupid shit looks good or that that's how shadows work.

i5-4690 3.5gh
750 ti 2gb
8gb ram
im retarded with settings

>is there anybody who actually believes this.
Yes, and they're called consolecucks.

Not as consistently shit as ULM

Because it enables cutscene lighting for the most part and you can change ENVs. It's never inconsistent. It either looks like vanilla or looks beter than vanilla. And you can press a button to get pure vanilla lighting or some other better ENV.

Vanilla looks terrible.

Where did the shadows touch you?

>he doesn't use sweetfx to make all his games look retro

> Left: Subjective taste.
> Right: Subjective taste.

Good thing I can pick whichever I like. Right?

How buttmad against an optional mod you must be to make this pictures?

>not using reshade for the superior retro shaders

>Cutscene lighting

Holy shit, way to expose your shit taste. If there's anything more buggy and inconsistent than STLM it's the fucking Cutscene lighting mod which effictively does nothing but reduce the contrast and fuck with the color correction.

How did you take a screenshot of the Xbox 360 release?

OP here,

that's a really nice picture, at least someone has refined taste in this thread.

Can you please read before replying? We're talking about ULM not whatever the fuck you're talking about.

oh sorry
Enbs

that word sounds like it has down sindrome thought

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How about this:

If you consider video games to be work of art, you play normally and enjoy what developers have crafted for better and for worse.

If you consider video games to be a simple dumb time killer and don't play much vidya in general then it's in your interest to craft a time killer that will perfectly suit your taste and therefore you mod your games.

>Do mods destroy the artistic vision?
the filters put there by the programmers (non-artists) generally do it first

Cutscene lighting is even worse than STLM

youtube.com/watch?v=j7M6ck2yUvQ

If you care about games being art you should fuck off to Polygon where you'll fit right in.

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I'm talking about that god awful cutscene lighting mod

You literally said

>"Because it enables cutscene lighting for the most part"

The cutscene lighting is fucking awful, so why does that make ULM better than Vanilla?

Why? Because I'm not. Cutscene lighting =/= cutscene lighting mod you dunce.

>The cutscene lighting is fucking awful
You're beyond retarded.

Well what are you arguing then? The Cutscene lighting looks dogshit outside of cutscenes and completely fucks with the games atmosphere (see ).

What makes ULM better than vanilla?

i dont think I've ever seen an ENB preset that actually looks more consistently better than vanilla in literally anything

Nobody forced you to install mods

You're the retard who brought up Cutscene lighting then got triggered when your shitty mod got BTFO.

At the start it looks terribly washed out and then at the end it looks better.

What's this webm meant to show exactly?

Sure.

That mod has nothing to do with cutscene lighting.

I've already answered your question you samefagging autistic retard. Holy shit you are an idiot.

It shows what the game looks like with a majority of its shading turned off for console optimization purposes. If you like what it looks like that's cool but most people don't and the reason it happens is because of consoles.

I never talke about games being "le ART" and only cucks care about them being considered as so or not.

However it is obvious that video games are a cultural product with more or less smart people behind them. If you, personally see video games as cultural product, in a sense, an artistic creation by multiple people. Then it makes sense to not butcher the original vision of the people behind it and enjoy it for what it is unless there are obvious technical flaws.

The second approach is like . Vidya is purely about gameplay, it's purely a consumer product, and therefore they should suit my taste as much as possible even if that means butchering the original vision.

Think of paintings of portraits, one guy will say: "okay, that's how the artist saw it and painted it, I'm gonna enjoy it for what it is", his brother is going to say: "I don't like how the nose looks, so I'm going to hire another artist to make it more to my liking".

is there a way to keep that really nice green looking color in vanilla without the awful lighting and grass?

I have a bunch of modded Fo4 screenshots.

I don't see what the problem is, if they didn't want their "artistic vision" ruined then they shouldn't have bothered with consoles.

I had to find alternate means to make my GPU work harder and I honestly think it looks far better than vanilla.

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What mod is this?
You guys are going back and forth so much I'm not sure.

I wish I ever bothered to screenshot this game in it's vanilla state, would be nice to make some comparisons.

It might be nice to play modded Fallout 4 in VR but without VR it looks pretty boring visually.

Damn that looks shitty.

>lets just saturate the shit out of everything

what mod is this

It's not a mod, that's vanilla transitioning from cutscene lighting to gameplay lighting. ULM lessens that transition so gameplay lighting looks a bit more like cutscenes.

The cutscene lighting mod is just more garbage like STLM which changes the entire game's visuals for the worst.

enb. the preset the second guy is using is the most popular one but it looks really bad in-game imo.

Everything looks better in Vanilla except for the hair

>for the worse

lol

that second pictures looks like EVE online

> If you like what it looks like that's cool but most people don't

Citation needed. The end of your webm looked objectively better than the beginning.

At the beginning it just looks like a washed out mess with terrible color calibration

You're talking complete shit, the ULM cutscene lighting literally is just a preset of the stand alone cutscene lighting mod.

That's all ULM is for the most part. A collection of shitty reshade presets that look terrible, washed out and out of place the majority of the time

And what do you say to games like FF15, Witcher 3, or Dark Souls 2 where the original vision was shown before release and then harshly downgraded to allow it to run on consoles?

>Citation needed.
The Witcher forums and the popularity of all mods that effect the lighting. STLM amongst the masses is the mod that removes cutscene lighting and returns the game to before it was downgraded. Not true, but that's the consensus.

You weren't even around here or the forums when the game was out, were you?

>You're talking complete shit
You've never even used ULM.

>The Witcher forums and the popularity of all mods that effect the lighting

Witcher forums? What, some random thread or do you have an actual poll?

As for the popularity of the mods, all I see is a mod with under 100,000 downloads relative to around 5+ million PC sales which is not even remotely the majority.

>You weren't even around here or the forums when the game was out, were you?

I was and the popular consensus on virtually every mod or even the Witcher 3 sub reddit is that the vanilla lighting is the most preferred option, even the mod creator Essenthy himself said he prefers the Vanilla lighting.

You're talking complete bullshit.

>"the majority prefers this mod"
>Citation needed
>"The Witcher 3 forums"

My fucking sides

ULM is not a collection of reshade presets. Reshade is all post-processing, while ULM allows you to customize the in-game ENV files, allowing you to do pretty much whatever you want (have it look like STLM, or cutscene light mod).

To you, every mod is a sweetfx preset.

what mods are you using? post more screenshots

Ok, so get me a custom tailored ULM version that looks better than vanilla and doesn't only look better in a handful of cherry picked locations while looking completely washed out and out of place in the others.

Modded looks so much better than vanilla

The downgrade thread on their forums was the most active thread for several months and it discussed cutscene lighting on every page.

>You're talking complete bullshit.
I'm also not recommending any mods, I didn't say everyone uses mods, and I'm not talking about STLM outside of it being shit. So why the fuck are you so upset?

The vast majority of modders do prefer using a mod that adjusts the lighting, yeah.

ULM doesn't include STLM or the cutscene lighting mod

By default it fits your description.

Yes user, mods are AWFUL, garbage, shit.

youtube.com/watch?v=qWVzgiXonrA

Are you making this thread because you own a PS4 user?

>The downgrade thread on their forums was the most active thread for several months

A "thread" on a gaming "forum" is not even remotely indicative of the public perception or general consensus, you sound ridiculous.

And besides, even if it was (it's not), the lighting mod doesn't make up for the downgrade at all, the LOD is still downgraded, textures among many other things that CDPR confessed to downgrading. All the lighting mods do is just that, tinker with the lighting/contrasts.

> I didn't say everyone uses mods

You did say that the majority think that your lighting mod "looks better" right here - "If you like what it looks like that's cool but most people don't"

Which is complete bullshit. You have absolutely no way of knowing what "most people like" and even Essenthy himself prefers Vanilla lighting to all current mods out there.

>So why the fuck are you so upset?

Because you're lying about the public perception to shill your shitty irrelevant ULM mod.

agreed, tell that to the retards here.

>what is the difference between subjective and objective please god help me I'm so retarded

A lot of people seem to be, because the left>right in the OP, objectively.

>samefagging your own post

Even the creator of your shitty mod prefers Vanilla lighting

I don't color mod my games ever.

The only thing I do is change textures, grass and stuff like that if modders have better ones. Like with Dark Souls.

>You did say that the majority think that your lighting mod "looks better"
No I did not you illiterate nigger. Every person who isn't a fucking retard prefers the lighting, in almost any game, during cutscenes compared to the gameplay lighting. Because engines display better effects when nothing is going on. That's the nature of cutscenes. ULM, STLM, whatever, have nothing to do with that. That's what I was talking about there, cutscenes -- not mods.

ULM is unpopular sure but that doesn't mean it isn't better than vanilla or any other mod, because it objectively is. You would know that if you've used it and you evidently haven't.

'Essenthy himself' hasn't either and that autist has always had bad taste.

>No I did not you illiterate nigger

Just look how defensive you're getting over getting BTFO, this is honestly getting pathetic to witness. If you're that desperate for your mod to become relevant then I suggest shilling it outside of Cred Forums.

>r. Every person who isn't a fucking retard prefers the lighting, in almost any game, during cutscenes compared to the gameplay lighting

But user, everybody knows it's my opinion > Your opinion

Either back up your "everybody prefers my shitty mods lighting" or quit wasting my time. Even the most popular lighting mod creator Essenthy says that Vanilla lighting is better.

Just look at virtually every major thread discussing these shitty mods

reddit.com/r/witcher/comments/427tl5/screens_of_witcher_3_with_crr_stlm_21_mods/?st=itge2hnx&sh=a56a5299

reddit.com/r/witcher/comments/3kjph9/witcher_3_super_turbo_lighting_mod_comparison/?st=itge44nt&sh=e823f0d9

>You would know that if you've used it and you evidently haven't.

Sorry m8, I don't use amateur mods that are so shit that they need to be aggressively shilled on Vietcong messaging boards

Just face it user, maybe YOU'RE the one with shit taste :^)

>BTFO
We aren't even arguing, you just can't read.

>getting this mad after your shitty mod gets shat on

Top kek

the left is a little too over exposed.

You're right, we aren't arguing. Your argument got dismantled the moment you implied "General Consensus =/= Witcher 3 forums"

I mean right

>he still can't read
Wasn't talking about mods there, retard.

>wasn't talking about mods
>Is literally talking about ULM (Ultimate Lighting MOD)

Nice try retard

This thread made me sexually attracted to rocks

>there

Although the light radius should be nowhere near that big nor should the light be that bright, yeah, light actually does drop off when it's cast from a fire rather than a light bulb. Oh wait I just remembered this is Cred Forums and no one here has probably seen a bonfire or a candle because everyone here stays inside.

I really dont bother with mods since if the game isnt good enough without mods, I wont bother with that game either.

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>This is a fact.

Are you an overweight woman with a tumblr blog devoted to complaining and making up falsehood about "the patriarchy"?

Because you fucking sound like one.

Modded TW3 looks beautiful

Why did the vanilla needed to be modded? It looks fine.

Don't bother, people would say that the PS3 version looks better. Don't even know what to say to that.

Ever been outside? Google something like "a photograph" to self-rekt yourself out of this thread.

Because is the actual order.

>buy house
>change wallpapers 12 years later

>"um sir, what the fuck are you doing?"

>"changing the wallpapers, I did purchase this house, I have the right to modify it."

>"uh no, you see you can't do that because you're ruining the artists vision."

>"Why should I care? It's my property and I have the right to do what I want with it."

>"STOP BEING SO ENTITLED YOU'RE RUINING THE BUILDING INDUSTRY!"

>those illuminating bushes

That's not what I was asking. Only an idiot can't tell Vanilla Witcher 3 from modded Witcher 3.

I mean that vanilla Witcher 3 is simply better than any version with modded lighting.

>mod game
>everything gets bright and saturated
>delete
>still looking for mods that make shit dark and spooky
why is it so hard to not ruin everything with too much light?

and why do most games today almost never have dark areas where you cant see shit?

yeah nah

Moddings purpose is to offer choice. You don't have to use them if you don't want. You might b e a console shitter if you can't understand it. Choice is good.

Definitely not on the OP. The oversaturated mess on the right is just silly.

it's a shame that the screenshot is ruined by the green grass in the mojave

OF COURSE it runs better, especially if it is unpatched.

15 fps > 60 fps PC Faggots need to go back to /r/eddit to tip their fedoras and scratch at their neckbeards!

Right is more interesting. Looks more fantastical.

He swapped the pics

A simple tweak in reshade fixed their fucking dumb artistic vision

>he didn't turn sharpening off
kys

Definitely in the OP.

Vanilla is just consistently better than any current lighting mod.

imgur.com/a/UMROL

imgur.com/a/bCyNy

Even the mod creator himself prefers Vanilla lighting because he knows the amount of cherrypicking he needs to do in order to avoid all the areas in the game that look completely dogshit in his lighting mod (i.e interiors, Touissant and especially at night time/in the rain).

>purple filter
>better

Texture mods? Fine
Gameplay mods? Cool
ENB/Lighting Mods? Kill yourself

>without the actual dev tools
REDkit out?

There is literally no game in existence that is not improved by applying a mod. Vanilla games are usually always pretty trash and ENB always improves the games visuals tenfold with DOF/AA/AF and amazing colour improvements.

I dont even get how console peasants exist or breathe. Do they know it's 2016 and not 2001?

> and ENB always improves the games visuals tenfold with DOF/AA/AF and amazing colour improvements.

Witcher 3 single handedly debunks this shit tier claim

Witcher 3 doesn't have ENB support.

That looks like shit lol

The shadows are all wrong here.

>go to restaurant
>order a meal
>NO SALT NOR PEPPER FOR YOU
>MUH ARTISTIC VISION

>Diablo 3 comes out
BAWW, WHY IS EVERYTHING GLOWING BRIGHT GREEN
>Witcher 3 comes out
THIS FOREST AT NIGHT SHOULD BE GLOWING BRIGHT GREEN

The mojave isn't a nuclear wasteland. It's just a desert, the bombs barely hit them.

Well, technically yeah, but Death of the Author exists, so why not?

>mfw going Whirl/Rend Feline armor on my next playthrough

can't stop won't stop

What musou is this?

>lumping Witcher's fantastic combat in with that jap rehash shit
neck yourself

lmao witcher does not have fantastic combat

so...this...is...the power.....of....western...."""""""""""gameplay"""""""""""

I legitimately don't understand why people use SweetFX. It just looks awful because it's not actually changing any lighting or materials.

That ENB is trash and has got to be nowhere near playable at night/in dungeons.

Enhanced Shaders NLA is my jam.

No, mods don't know how to do THEIR FUCKING JOB

i HATE THAT CUNT NEVER RELEASED HIS NLA PRESET.

certain reshades are god tier if the creator knows what he is doing.

wish I could gut that toddyhancer faggot with a pen

Mods that alter graphics are just stupid and unnecessary. Mods that alter gameplay however are always garbage and people who like them have shit taste.

...

What about mod that changes damages ex F04 survival just changes more damage to player and less to enemy to more damage for everybody so no bulletsponges?

>what mod
>mod
>singular
>only one
>mod
>implying bethshit games can be modded to look good with only ONE (1) mod

You will spend exponentially more time trying to install and configure all these mods than you will actually playing the game. I'd rather work from sunrise to sunset every day until I doe than try and mod any bethesda game.

> you will never love you god this much

It's nevada enb and it looks like shit 90% of the time so don't bother

No

Mods are optional, its not like modders are invading your home and installing mods against your will.

Oh, fuck off already. I'm sure you fancy yourself a clever masterful troll, but there's a reason the mods are here. Your shitposts are hardly artistic.

the gameplay on dark souls is already clunky enough to make it look like a bad nes game

why make it look bad too ?

The thing I hated about Witcher lighting mods is they ALL fuck something up somehow or another.

I ended up just removing the lightning mods I tried (I tried a few) and went with Vanilla since at least it was consistent and didn't rely on my pressing tilde to switch between presets or some shit (the Turbo Super Lighting mod or some shit required that, not to be confused with the Super Turbo lighting mod!)

The Seamless World was just too BIG for a single catch-all solution.

remove the piss filter and you're golden

Back some time ago, modding actually added value. They would actually fix and add improvements, but people now want monetary rewards. Back then it was either a hobby or just to add to a resume.
The ones with talent would often go into game making, and really produce something with substance.

Artistic vision is a concept created to validate critical theory and give reason for modernity to exist.

Artistic vision is meaningless.

MUH

>witcher
>fantastic combat
can't stop laughing tbqh
also that jap shit is garbage too

Modding any Bethesda game takes a couple of hours if you're not terminally retarded.

I've only just discovered the joys of downsampling from 4k. You don't even need mods.

>downsampling from 4k
Like anti-aliasing, but without any of the performance benefits!

>just fuck my contrast up

T. consolefags playing at 900P HAHAHAAH

downsampling looks so good.

um excuse me but what does you ruining all IQ with awful contrast settings have to do with 900p?

It gives a sweet cinematic feel from the FPS drop and it does more than anti alias. It makes everything super clear and detailed, hairworks hair included, and you know what? I'm ok with the performance hit. It's a fair tradeoff

>IQ with awful contrast settings

It' called overcast shithead

>nearly clear blue sky
>overcast
Are you challenged?

>community patches
>bad
Sometimes games created by a defunct company have tons of broken shit that needs fixing, like Titan Quest and the fan patch.

I'm talking about the skyrim pic

>not knowing what ambient occlusion is

oh shit I quoted the wrong post.

HATE MODS

help me

Still mad there's no motion blur for characters.

There is.

You guys are casuals. I have over 200gb of mods.

how? must have a fuckload of amour mods and textures

I'm not a casual.

That is disgusting by the way.

> my artistic vision

quite possibly the worst screenshot i've ever seen.

>he plays the game

are you a fag?

You're the one posting screenshots of Skyrim, you're the faggot.

fag do you even have sex mods installed?

Nothing will ever fix the shit combat

Why would anyone install Skyrim let alone degenerate mods? You're pathetic.

Skyrim sex mods are fucking shit.
Stop this meme already.

Because the farther light takes to drop off the more performance intensive it is obviously.

But what if the debs made a great game but fuck up some little details. Thank God for mods that allow us to fix them.

We get it, consolefags. You can't mod your shit and you're mad. No need to make a shitty bait thread over it.

>all mods are the same

great thread

My only problem with mods like this is that they look amazing in pictures, but once you try to make these characters do anything in the game they look so out of place.