What went wrong?

>Joshu
>not based as fuck

You're going to feel stupid when he ends up being the hero of JJL.

Get the fuck out of here Josuke. Pretty soon Yasuho will realize what a great guy he is, Norisuke'll let him move out of the garage, and maybe even buy me a real lobster. Just you wait you splittongue'd gaptoothed goonbag.

>Every character from parts 1-6 and 8 has their anime color scheme or an equally "normal" pallet
>Johnny and Gyro are dressed like neon circus clowns
>They don't even fit in alongside Diego and Valentine
Blah blah blah no canon colors, I'm not complaining about the colors themselves. I'm complaining that in any cutscene with all the JoJos Johnny sticks out like a sore thumb.

It became another "Jotaro, king of the sue, saves the day through asspull" episode.

He's becoming cool in his own dickbag way

Hey remember that time it looked like Joshu was going to get some character development, only to try and molest his mother in the chapter straight after?
What a cool guy right?

Speak for yourself. For me, he went from a jealous loser to a lovable doof with mommy issues.

He didn't get any character development. It just shed light on his insecurities and showed that he's a lot more self aware than he lets on.

Jotaro

Yeah, he's still a douche
Though it seemed like he was keeping Daiya away from her while everyone else seemed distressed (and still don't know what's the deal between Fruit Dad and Kaato and who's in the wrong here)

That just shows how much of a fucking sociopath Joshu is.
Some woman he's never met before insulted his hair, so he stealthily makes his way to the other side of the room to kick a chair into her and molest her fat tits..

Why does Cred Forums hate us?

You can add Kyo with Born This Way

eh, I just saw it as Joshu denying the fact that he has a mom. He clearly has abandonment issues and treating her that was was his method of saying "I have no mom a blublbublu"

Having Heaven Ascension DIO as the main antagonist was probably not the wisest move. Everyone loves DIO sure, but canonically the only reason Jotaro beat him was because of muh Same Stand meme. An entirely new character using the foundation of the other villains except maybe Kira would've probably been for the best

Yes, an OC would've made the story better is what I'm saying

>ywn get your cock stepped on by femJotaro

why live?

I would honestly accept a remastered 60fps ASB over Eyes of Heaven.

The entire game isn't just poker matches with Darby. That's the problem.

It was showing us that he's actually really insecure and coming to the realisation that he might not actually have anything special about him at all, even with a super powered punch ghost. He's become less of a whiny bitch and more of a straight up cunt because of this. Where he goes from here remains to be seen.

The threads on Cred Forums are terrible half the time because of shitposting. Cred Forums one are usually better though you occsionaly get ones worse than the Cred Forums ones. This thread has been pretty chill though. People on Cred Forums replying to that guy are agreeing that this is a nice thread.

Don't let your dreams be memes, user

They forgot to change Giorno

it's time

7 > 8 > 4 > 6 > 5 > 2 > 3 > 1

>r36 Johnny wearing short shorts

muh dik?

Mine's pretty much the same as yours although 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 are all tied.

6>2>1>7>4>5>3

8 isn't finished yet so i can't place it.

7>4>5>3>6>2>1
8 looks good so far but Ill rate it when its over

Currently reading through 6 to catch up but for me it's
4 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 5

Sleeping Slaves really soured my taste on the whole Part, which I wasn't really too on-board with to begin with. The fights were fantastic and Diavolo was a cool villain but the backstories, themes and Giorno really got in the way of my enjoyment

Also is Eyes of Heaven worth it for the cast alone, disregarding the fanfiction story?

How is it possible that Joshuu is such a horrible person, but such a likable character? Even his hair is terrible, but strangely aesthetic.

>Josuke needs money to pay for Holly's treatment
>we literally JUST finished an arc about a Stand that keeps giving you money that no one will legally accept
>earlier on there was an arc about a place in Morioh to illegally make money by abusing the Stand bound to the trees there
The next arc better be my boy Gappy getting tricked into accepting the Milagro Man by Joshu only to find a way to overcome it by abusing Shakedown Street to get infinite money with no drawbacks.

it's because he's the real Jojo of part 8. Gappy is gonna get killed off.

He reminds me of people I know that ended up being good people. Just a young dummy still finding out who he is. You just know he's going to have a great redemption.

That's how fiction works, you can like anyone no matter how despicable because they're entertaining or well written despite what some people might think.

Also here's a shitpost pic from Cred Forums based on that panel.

Assholes make for fun characters. Young Dio and Rohan are other good examples.

The developer behind the game had to restrict Araki's vision for this game.

That is what happened.

I don't think Araki really gave a shit about the game honestly, he just signed off on the script and said 'yeah whatever' and went back to drawing Josuke/Yasuho lewds.

>Literally the same fucking plot as P.3

And that was the worst part.

Why is Joubin so handsome? I'm almost disappointed that he's 95% gonna be the main villain because that means he's going to die or suffer a fate worse than death like Kars or Diavolo.

>tfw no official Araki porn

Seriously, what gives? Araki always struck me as a guy who appreciates the human body. Why no official softcore porn artbook? I'd drop $100 on that shit.

>dat v fin

I keep wondering, is that stand SUPPOSED to look like a Gundam?

Really? I always thought the entirety of Jojo was just secreelty porn.

Most of them are Japanese, why would they care?

>implying Jobin isn't just a lackey for the main villain

I read somewhere that he does have some softcore lewds of certain characters, maiinly from Part 8 since it's so much more sexual than previous Parts, but it's probably not true. I'd buy it too.

You can see him referring to reference books and pictures of Greek sculptures and shit in this video of him drawing a promo art piece so I can imagine he'd open up a porn site and then try and adapt what he sees when drawing Gappy making Yasuho happy.

youtube.com/watch?v=IO72HMhJp1M

>95% gonna be the main villain
Is this bait? His stand has nothing to do with time.

JoJo for some reason is anti-porn. There's barely fucking anything in this damn fandom, it's drier than coarse, rough sand that gets everywhere

I'm already thankful we at least have quality R63s, but none of my actual fetishes are ever indulged. I'm hoping that changes with the anime if it does

That'd be pretty shitty with the amount of build up he's gotten over the last like 2-3 years.

No he's gonna be the Bruno of the part, he's basically the main character without being a Jojo
Hell they basically even have the same stand

Neither did D4C. Also Killer Queen and Whitesnake started out with no time powers but unlocked them later. And in volume 7 of JJL Araki added a page that revealed his Stand's name and also that it has a 'secret power' and that making things hot is just one application of it.

Joshu is the main villain.

Making the end and the solution of Dio's new power being the exact same, word by word, panel by panel as the end of Stardust Crusaders... all that build up for nothing

>neither did D4C
What are timelines?

>Spoiler
Jojo Xenoverse when?

They never use the word timelines and the word they use in Japanese has no relation to time at all.

They couldn't balance fan-service and gameplay. Also nips jerk it too hard to Part 3 but I guess CC2 knew that everyone would fucking hate them if they just remade Part 3's story into a game so they just created their own bizarre version of Part 3 instead.

>D4C
>implying Valentine was the villain

His design would be 10/10 if his suit didn't have those dumb spikes everywhere.

>British terrorist kills multiple government officials before stealing ancient American artifacts and murdering the president.

>The ending want all the joestars fusing abilities to make the stand Jojo over heaven
It didn't have to make sense, just be hype.

While Valentine is the least evil antagonist in Jojo, he's still very clearly an antagonist, as he stands opposed to the protagonist.

If I remember correctly didn't Valentine had an alternative universe gun right behind his back?

>Needless amounts of Part 3 wanking
I swear to god, Star Platinum's powers aren't super speed, precision, and time stop; his power is bullshit asspulls.

>thinks antagonist and villain are the same thing

Did he even know that Damo was trying to kill his family? He wouldn't of let that slide if he knew would he?

It's almost like he's an alternate version of Valentine or something.

Hell they could have just given Johnathon a stand and say that The World is actually Johnathon's

His wife and son were conveniently out of the house when all the Damo stuff went down so I dunno.

>wouldn't of
Fucking check yourself you gimp-limped seafoam shell of a shadow.

From a story design perspective yes. But it's hard to disagree with Valentine's motives from a character perspective. He felt more like the protagonist at times than Johnny did. What was Johnny even trying to do, walk? A completely self-serving motivation. Valentine was trying to keep everyone in America safe from all threats.

That's where he fucked up. He could've just NOT shot Johnny, and Johnny would've left him alone.

To be fair that was why anybody can stomach Part 2's ending

That user never used the word villain

>In Eyes of Heaven Funny just throws away his gun immediately
Coolest part of the game

The issue is he was condemning the rest of the world for it. America being a nice place where no one ever stubs their toes or gets hurt is nice but when all the bad shit that happens to them is redirected to random unwilling people outside of Love Train's influence then it becomes pretty shitty.

Except The World isn't Jonathan's. Jonathan had a stand like Hermit Purple. Jonathan still SHOULD have been the one to defeat Dio, somehow.

>Jonathan had a stand like Hermit Purple
Says who?

>Valentine is not a villain
>No, he was clearly the antagonist

Araki. It was a leftover from when his original plan was for DIO to have every Stand power but he quickly realised that was fucking stupid but he'd already shown DIO using Hermit Purple so he made it Jonathan's Stand instead. And really, The World was stated so many fucking times to be DIO's Stand that I don't know why there's even confusion.

araki

it's to cover his ass when dio uses hermit purple at the beginning of stardust crusaders

Says Araki, on page 33 of the Jojo a-Go! Go! stand dictionary appendix.

Villain implies evil. Antagonist implies someone opposing the antagonist. The words got swapped in there where it shifted from villains to antagonists. There can be a such thing as a heroic antagonist, depending on where the point of view the story takes place

Anyways, Funny is an All American Meme in the end anyways

The fuck are you talking about?

he's saying your grammar sucks and he called you a name. Settle down.

Whoops, I done goofed again. Should probably go to bed soon
>Antagonist implies someone opposing the protagonist

Point still stands. Literary terms rather than morality terms

Some would definitely consider Valentine a villain. Like, say, anyone who isn't American, since they get dicked real hard by his actions.

I never understood why people find Valentine to be agreeable. Yes, Valentines intentions appear to be good to the audience but how do you know he's not just out for power? I mean the dude has a huge fucking body count already before he even obtains the corpse. It's not out of the question that after he obtained the corpse he would just go full Manifest Destiny on every remaining country in the world.

Jonathan's body containing every stand power of anyone in the Joestar bloodline would've been the shit, though.

Who the fuck are you arguing with? Do you not know how quoting works?

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Maybe that is why Josuke' stand is similar looking to The World.

what is /jojo/?

>anyone who isn't American get dicked real hard by his actions

Kinda reminds me of another political figure...

this doesnt prove anything

>Johnny top 3
>Valentine top 3

I'm okay with this

Araki's idea was EVERY Stand, like all of them ever. He dropped it because that was silly and the idea he settled on was Jotaro having he same power as DIO because DIO only got where he was by taking everything, so the one thing that was truly his own, ie his Stand, ends up being taken by the descendant of the guy he took everything from who is also coming to take back all the other shit he took. Which leaves DIO with nothing to call his own.

>Part 4 anime is airing
>Part 4 characters really high up in the list
really makes you think

If he went manifest destiny though, wouldn't that mean that every nation that fell under America's control would be protected by Love Train? So even as he conquers, Funny would STILL be a good guy in the end.

>Jonathan with The World covered in Hermit vines, Star Platinum Ripples, Crazy D Hearts, and Stone Free's glasses

>anyone who isn't American

Who gives a shit about those people?

Huh, I always just assumed that Dio could use the abilities of the other Joestars, which would explain why he's got the Hermit Purple thing, why he's got Star Platinum's powers, why Crazy Diamond looks a lot like The World, and how he heals Pucci's leg

>Implying that's not the case
>Implying DIO didn't heal Pucci

Pretty good given SBR has no anime for anime only plebs to say is the best.

>August
>before Kira even revealed his stand, let alone became an important character in the Anime

really makes you scratch your noggin

It would make some sense, for instance, that he would never have known he had Shining Diamonds because what did he ever need to fix? He couldn't heal himself with it because it doesn't do that and he heals anyways. But then how do people know what their stands do to begin with? The ones that talk can just tell you, but what about everyone else?

>Part 2 anime ended over 3 years ago
>Joseph #1
>Part 3 anime ended 1 year ago
>Jotaro statistically tied for last
really makes you think

No local co op

Valentines' motives are, in a way, highly selfish. He's entirely self-serving to his own needs, which he hides behind his patriotism to accomplish.

It's the only real explanation Joseph is so high, but I don't think animeonlies really would vote for Kira over DIO. They haven't really gotten to see Kira at his peak with fucking around as Kosaku and BtD

Probably because it's a lot of people's favorite Parts in general and really the only ones who tend to drag it down are those that like Part 5 a bit more than they should

Nah he didn't give a shit about conquering, he just wanted one nation above the others and everyone else to eat shit. Also he conveniently ends up on top of the one good nation and can continue to act like the cunt he was to everyone throughout SBR.

Crazy Diamond's power wouldn't heal Pucci's leg anyway, it only returns things to a prior state but Pucci's foot was deformed from birth so there was no time it was ever normal for him to fix it back to. It was probably just vampire bullshit, like DIO came inside Pucci's foot but he didn't feel it because deformed and twisted then he realised it was fine after DIO's cum became one with Pucci's foot.

>It's the only real explanation Joseph is so high,
Joseph has always been the most popular jojo, genius. Were you even around before 2012?

>Valentines' motives are, in a way, highly selfish.

He's the only villain that had a motivation that would benefit many. As in, millions of people. Every other villain had selfish motivations like >muh Joestars must die >muh ultimate lifeform >muh quiet life >muh secret identitity >muh Dio's boypuccy etc.

Boring gameplay
Re-used assets
Plot had great potential yet squandered it like fuck, Dio and Giorno basically don't interact at all, Ceasar and Gyro don't interact, Jotaro does everything and gets the big dumb power-up instead of a combined effort.

The only legitimately worthwhile parts of the game was when Old Joseph got upset at Ceasar and Young Joseph because he knew that Ceasar was going to die and he never got to take back what he said and also young Jolyne at the end.

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far less selfish than Johnny's motives.
>I want to walk
>I want to collect the corpse parts because

>actual panel size

It's a bit of a stretch, but there are some moments that I see support the idea of DIO having the power of every JoJo (that was alive at the time)

Star Platinum - obvious
Hermit Purple - ^^
He somehow fixed Pucci's foot - Crazy Diamond
Granting life (vampirism) - Gold Experience
His bone being given life spreads plantlife everywhere - Holy's Stand

No Stone Free because Jolyne wasn't alive at the time.

>He's the only villain that had a motivation that would benefit many. As in, millions of people.

You are objectively wrong. For every person that he benefits, the horrible shit that was going to happen to them happens to somebody else in the world. So essentially he makes absolutely no difference to make the world a better place as a whole if he succeeded.

Pucci genuinely believed his goals would benefit all mankind though, despite the fact he was obviously dead wrong. In the end it had little to do with DIO and more just his own inability to accept it was his fault his sister died. DIO just made a very convincing argument and happened to say exactly what Pucci wanted to hear. Which blew up in both their faces because DIO thought he'd finally found an equal who he could trust to help finish his plan but as it turns out Pucci had his own motivations and lost his way over the years after DIO died.

A poll from /jojo/ at least implies some variety but Joseph utterly shits on the others with being the only one over 100 votes. Coming from /jojo/ who aren't usually the biggest fans of Part 2, it's saying something

I think the biggest problem was having to balance all 8 Parts together in a coherent story line... Which, really isn't possible considering the multi-generational aspect of the series

There's just so many unanswered questions, it was easier not to try

>Son_DIO

Or the bodyguard who got murdered by Valentine BECAUSE HE WAS STUNG BY BEES.

Giorno wasn't alive at the time either. It didn't take Jotaro 9 months to reach Egypt.

He doesn't want to make the world a better place. He wants to make AMERICA a better place.

I'm not saying his motivation wasn't harmful, but it was definitely the least-selfish. The only people that object to it are butthurt Europoors and other 3rd worlders.

The game's great you fat pussies, and imo way more fun than All Star Battle (although i miss it's intro).

Given his desire to walk once more quickly falls to the wayside to "I want to stop this dude who is going to doom anyone who isn't American", I would say Johnny ends up a lot less selfish. Especially given Valentine was offering him so much at the finale, granted he would have just shot the cripple had he ended the infinite spin.

Giorno was 2 during Part 3 dumbass.

>Granting life (vampirism) - Gold Experience
Giorno is a Jojo, but not a Joestar.

Shut the hell up, cripple. Valentine's plan was basically going to put the U.S in a godlike position at the cost of literally everyone else in the world. If anything, his plan would harm more people.
>I want to get the corpse parts because they'd fall into the hands of an exploitative maniac/Gyro is moral and i'm not/muh legs

That is selfish. Maybe not in the way the guy you're arguing with was saying, but it is selfish none the less and anybody who unironically thinks Valentine did nothing wrong is a huge retard.

>objectively no change
>benefits the land and people he cares about
I don't see the issue here.

How much time actually passed between DIO awakening and the Crusaders setting out anyway?

DIO somehow had time to get a brown fucktoy, have three sons, find and brainwash a bunch of Stand users and train his own Stand.

Learn to read you dumb fuck nigger

>LEAST SELFISH

Every other antagonist's motivation was ONLY to help themselves. Valentine's was at least to help an entire country.

He still has Jonathan's blood in him, making him a descendant of the Joestar bloodline.

>I want to stop this dude who is going to doom anyone who isn't American
Not even Valentine knew what the corpse's power was until it was fully assembled.

You're correct up until you think vampirism is Gold Experience. His bone growing all the plant shit is the aspect of Gold Experience.

The idea of this theory comes from the fact that Dio's character has a very central theme of stealing from the Joestars to obtain his goals. Even if you look at Diego he literally steals somebody elses stand.

He probably found the Stand Arrow in '87, but reawakened about a good 2-3 years beforehand

It might've been explained in Part 5 but the Scanlations regarding the arrow are still utter shit so I don't remember

I don't think anyone argues he's the least selfish antagonist. It's not like it's a hard bar to beat, Gay Priest is the only one who I could even begin to argue isn't the worlds biggest egomaniacal twat at the time.

It doesn't take much time to fuck four bitches when you're Dio

>Valentine's plan was basically going to put the U.S in a godlike position at the cost of literally everyone else in the world.

Literally nothing wrong with that. I mean this unironically.

Not him, but due to the whole karma thing balancing things out it would make things terrible.
>America has a economic boom
>Europe gets the plague
>America discovers space travel
>Russia suffers a bloody coup
etc. Everything that's good that happens to the U.S was balanced out on a global scale- Valentine was going to inflict suffering purely for gain. Was this a bad thing? Yes, but it was something he believed in and thus he honestly thought it was the right thing to do.

He woke up in 1984 and got his Stand in 1987, which is also when he met Pucci. Joseph developed his Stand earlier on account of training with Hamon so Holly and Jotaro only started developing their Stands in late 1988, and in late November they set off to Egypt because Holly's was killing her and killed they DIO in January 1989.

>Jonathan's blood
You're assuming how vampire bodies work.

>Every other antagonist's motivation was ONLY to help themselves.

If you're going to act like a retard then go ahead, but you're wrong even in your pretending. Pucci was trying to help the entire world. By your logic he is the least selfish.

>Pucci was trying to help the entire world.

All Pucci wanted was DIO's boipucci.

He has the birthmark nigga

shooting cum out of chest

Considering DIO's body from the neck down was Jonathan's, including his heart, there was a mix in there

Plus Giorno has the Joestar birthmark so yeah, that is Jonathan's blood

Skin =/= blood

I was more equating it to how he literally brought people back to life (Tarkus and Bruford)
But yeah, that is the biggest stretch in that whole thing.

This is my Jojosona. I call him "Giorno". He's kind of like a Jojo but he's italian so he's named "Gio Gio" and he's actually Dio's son which is super cool. He has the power to give life to things and control them but if you touch the things he brings to life you get hurt and also if he touches you time slows down and you get hurt even more and also he can heal anybody who gets hurt (even himself) and also everybody likes him and he's really smart so he's always the first one to figure out mysteries and stuff. Also he is so special and unique that the arrow itself chose him to power up his stand and when his stand powers up it's like super invincible and you can't hurt it and it's the strongest stand in the whole show. He can negate any action you try to do and if he touches you you like die over and over forever he's so strong.

What do you think?

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Four words.
[The World Over Heaven]

Did you even read Part 6? In the end he didn't really care about DIO and just wanted to shift the guilt from his sister's death onto fate.

Reminder

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This needs to be updated.

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Old Japs may look young but they have hidden underlying health issues.

Araki probably has an aneurysm ready to pop any day now.

>stopped reading the manga a few months back
>decide to catch up on the current part
>can't go back longer than a week with batoto now without an account

Where else can I read the manga without selling my soul???

Araki's stand, [Roundabout], really has gotten more powerful over the years.

just use 10minutemail or something to make a throwaway account you faggot

literally every manga website. Type "manga [noun] jojolion" and click the first link.

Mangasee

Why not just check the Pastebin and download all the colored scans?

Literally anywhere. Just use a throwaway account, it's really not that bad. Batoto is always updated first with new JoJolion chapters.

"a few months" is jojo for 2 chapters.

It's a CC2 game, it was bound to at least look pretty but play mediocre at best. For fuck sake the previous JoJo game they made was a fighting game that ran at 30fps, fucking fail right out of the gate. Hopefully another dev gets to make the next JoJo game but thanks to CC2 shitting out two bad games back to back sales dropped hard, Eyes of Heaven outright bombed in Japan, only All-Star sold very well due to the JoJo brand but it got badly received by the Japanese players that they had to release a shit ton of patches to make it less shit.

(All-Star) gematsu.com/2013/09/media-create-sales-82613-9113

(Eye) gematsu.com/2015/12/media-create-sales-121415-122015

Going from 500K in first week sales (All-Star) to a measly 50K combined with PS4/PS3 for Eyes of Heaven. GG CC2. We might not get another JoJo game because it's been tarnished.

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Didn't araki write the story? Its well known that he wants to suck jotaro's dick.

poll from 2014

>Didn't araki write the story? Its well known that he wants to suck jotaro's dick.

Wrong on both statements

Coloured scans for JoJolion are only like 7 or 8 volumes in and the manga is currently up to 14 or 15 volumes worth of content. Only up to 13 is actually released physically outside of Ultra Jump. There's very little coloured stuff of recent JoJo available.

Is Rohan at the Louvre any good?

no but you have nothing else to do.

No, Araki likes Josuke's feminine penis.

Sorry, read the post wrong. I should probably head to bed soon

Still, I think they have the new ones for download, don't they?

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>not separating Dio and DIO
what a shit poll

>What went wrong?
it started at the faggotry aesthetic sans even a single palatable trap, and ended with the Wii waggle wand gameplay with three specials per shitty combatant char.

Why couldn't you be a girl? You would have been so good.

Not for Part 8, it's only like half of the first volume available in colour. JJCA are releasing a coloured Part 7 chapter a day at the moment so that's nearly done and they'll move onto 8 after that then 5 and then do more of 8 as more coloured scans are released.

Because
Dude looks like a lady

4 > 5 > 7 > 8 > 2 > 6 > 3 > 1

SCnS > Bloody Stream > SCnK > Stand Proud > CNBT > Chase

Joseph > Josuke > Johnny > Gappy > Jotaro > Jolyne > Jonathan > Giorno

DIO > Valentine > Kira > Pucci > Kars > Diavolo

Pretty pleb in all honesty.

>Guys, The World is the best JoJo stand! Period!
I mean come on, compared to part 4 and beyond its pretty lame, time stop while a powerful move is very simple and not really interesting.

>complains about things being """faggy"""
>is a faggot

beautiful taste user

To be fair, if I had a super power I'd pick time stop no hesitation

It is very good, I bought mine directly at the Louvre

I'd rather pick invisibility

Is that the one where he has the magical handbag, or where he tries to save the nice fat man?

it's the one where he's at the Louvre

its yet another z-lock bandai fighting game.

I get it, but he couldn't look like an ugly lady?

It's a different one that wasn't an ordinary one shot, it was drawn specifically for the exhibition Araki got at the Louvre.

youtube.com/watch?v=AMsGTEuCQCU

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I'd honestly rather have King Crimson than The World.

Johnny is my All-Time favorite Jojo.

But Giorno is right behind him for me. Mainly because of him losing his shit and annihilating Ciocolatta at the end. The snake thing with Fugo was also pretty interesting.

Steel Ball Run is also my All-Time favorite part but Vento Aureo is right behind it.

Send Help. Even so much as believing this feels like the ultimate sin.

It's far more situational than The World though. It's good for fighting if you do a lot of that but for more general every day stuff you'd get more use out of The World.

ayy

SAME STAND!

>hot opinions

Don't be ashamed user. Vento Oreo is a genuinely good part that has a stigma against it due to the Duwang-tier translation.

Don't let the memes get to you.

Well, for me I don't give a fuck about the story, I wanted to have fun time with friends online.

The netcode. The netcode went wrong.

>tfw Joshu gets Bowie's "Heroes" pose in EoH
I'm obligated to like him now. Fuck you and fuck Joshu but I'll admit he has a cool stand.

I hope he eventually gets a huge wakeup call.

Part 5 is a good part. People just don't understand it well, in part because of how bad the translation is even to this day. It's definitely the part that will benefit most from an anime adaption.

I mean fuck, people unironically still don't understand how King Crimson works and it's really not all that complicated.

>you live in the Universe where Dio wasn't an ally

Not a good feel, I hope a gay priest hits that reset button.

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Being able to see the future alone is arguably as strong as stopping time, nevermind the other shit King Crimson can do.

Nah fuck that Part 5 has a meh Jojo and Diavolo is a bland villain. It's definitely better than Parts 1 and 3, on par with 2 and 6 but worse than 4 and 7. Bruno and Mista are two of the best characters in Jojo and the Gangster theme was nice but GER was a ridiculous asspull and Giorno was a plot device not a character

The stigma against it are concerning the shitty protagonist, villain, and resolution. Nobody actually cares about the translation.

I know, I'm not arguing that it's weaker I'm just saying The World is better for general usage if you aren't planning on changing your life very much after getting a super power. King Crimson requires more effort to get good results out of but as long as you don't get ZERO'd then you're set.

>Diavolo
>bland

kys

>Cool stand
>Zippers but worse

More Jotaro bullshit like there wasn't enough

Gave Dio a new stand but didn't give Jonathan one who actually needed one in that kind of setting

Except Giorno isn't a shitty protagonist. He has more personality and character then Jotaro has ever had in all three parts he appears in.

The reason people think he's shitty is because the translations strip every ounce of character out of him.

>Calls Diavolo interesting
>Posts Dopio
I recognize bait when I see it, user.

Aight Diavolo fag show me a panel where DIAVOLO does something interesting instead of Doppio's wild and crazy antics. Doppio shows up to fight Metallica and then fucking DIES at his next major appearance. Even Kars managed more interesting panel time than that.

>Implying Zipper Man's not baller as fuck

b8

>YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND

Do you call Koichi "Guanglai Kangyi" just because the original translation called him that?

I agree Giorno is better than Jotaro.

But that still puts him under every other JoJo, even Jonathan.

How come I thought he was shitty for the first half of the part when the the translations were good and how come the translations didn't ruin my enjoyment of any other aspect of part 5?

Jotaro is an awful protag too.

Johnny > Joseph > Jolyne > Gappy > Josuke > Jonathan > Giorno > Jotaro

>Even Jonathan

This meme needs to end. Jonathan is a high-tier JoJo.

>Every ounce of character

Naw m8, once he joins the gang that's when all his character gets stripped. He stops being the main protagonist and is just the medic or inspiration for the rest of the gang with very few moments like the 100 cars or 7 page Muda to save him. He became super generic shonen protagonist long before the shitty scanlations

Sleeping Slaves just proved the story was never about him in the first place

>le pure dindu nuffin jojo meme

He's boring. Get used to it. The only solace is that he's less boring than Jotaro.

I haven't read the part 5 manga yet. What's so shitty about Giorno?

No, get some taste you fucking pleb.

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He has little personality. He's like Jotaro or Jonathan. His entire personality just revolves around moving the plot forward.

Joushuu is the greatest character in fiction.

I like Jonathan, but only because how naive and pure he is. Saying he's a top-tier jojo is just wrong though.

He's not wacky like Joseph or Josuke. He's basically DIO but he wants to help people rather than rule them which a lot of people don't like for some reason. He doesn't get much character development but it is there. He's alright but he's not the best by any means.

Those colors aren't even colors Johnny and Gyro ever wore. I checked every volume cover and the closest I could find was them wearing green, but it was a muted green, not the neon they had in EoH.

Also, Gappy's voice actor is horrible and gold and green is a bad palette for S&W.

He's Dio if Dio wasn't a gigantic asshole. Which turns out isn't that interesting. He serves as a beacon for the crew to stay focused while using them to achieve his dream of becoming hokage or gang boss or whatever. His powers are fanfiction tier and keep getting stronger over the course of the part and he only uses 1 part of those powers endlessly. He has no personality at all and all his interactions with other characters are either about their current situation or inspiring them.

Part 5 is watching 2 really bland characters go at it while vastly more interesting side characters actually duke it out.

Johnny, Gappy and Josuke look cute there, but here's a superior Giorno.

Jonathan is top tier.

He sets the standard for every single JoJo that follows him. He's kind and compassionate, but most prominently he pioneers that trademark iron will every jojo has, to never give up when it comes to doing what they thinks is right. Dio takes absolutely everything from him, his dog, his father, his friends and even his life. Yet in the end he still cares for Dio, because Dio was the closest thing he ever had to a brother.

If you don't think that's interesting and you think he has no personality, even without considering how short his part is, you need to rethink your life.

>He's basically Dio
Minus everything that actually made Dio interesting. Part 5 is actually my favorite part but I'm well aware of how bad a protagonist Giorno is. He's completely unrelateable and his character traits aren't enough to stand him up. He's better off as the side character he became.

(8)>7>5>6>2>3>1

8 may change.

>Every shot is a still picture with minimal animation
>Toonboom puppet manipulation
>shit voice acting aside form my dude Ringo
>that awful oraoraora

I hate that video so much

Rolling Stone and True Man's World are the best non-final villain fights in the series.

Prove me wrong.

>>You're going to feel stupid when he ends up being the hero of JJL

or the bad guy

sad part is, it'll be better than the official adaption

are you fucking kidding me? Jonathan is a shitty Kenshiro copy what only ever got anything done by virtue of being strong because he was a good guy. His entire character was a fucking circular argument. He is good, thus he is strong, thus he wins, thus he is good.

Jotaro on the other hand was a way more fleshed out character than jonathan ever will. He had his own reasons for doing things, and most of the time he was more concerned with looking cool (by his own definition) than actually doing things efficiently. As can be noted in part IV, he left most of the cool guy bravado behind as he grew up and matured.

I don't understand the dumb meme hate for jotaro. But everyone seems to be fine with josuke whose blandness as a main character is only beat by jonathan.

>Darby
>Highway Star
>Grateful Dead/Beach Boy
>Jailhouse Lock
>Sugar Mountain

>tfw the part 4 anime could share all of the problems I had with that video

i wish anime would be good again

I'd be very surprised. Joshu definitely seems like doofus redemption material.

Jobin is the villain anyways.

>are you fucking kidding me? Jonathan is a shitty Kenshiro copy what only ever got anything done by virtue of being strong because he was a good guy. His entire character was a fucking circular argument. He is good, thus he is strong, thus he wins, thus he is good.

Oh yeah, I must have forgot that part where he beat the bad guy and lived happily ever after.

Learn how to quote people also, retard.

Diavolo really kind of is the worst jojo villain now that I think about it

No real motivation and died like a bitch despite having a potentially OP stand

I agree. Those and Daniel J. D'Arby are the best.

>I don't understand the dumb meme hate for jotaro

He's boring and unlikable?

His only enjoyable moments were during the D'arby arcs.

It's an arena fighter
JoJo doesnt really seem suited for a fighting game. JoJo is more like an adventure game with puzzle

Thats also the worlds power, you know how it is when theyre the same type of stand. Also its not all good times, the emd of this game is the universe where the jota manga existd.

It's funny that for a guy that grows up and matures he still dresses up like a guy who should still be in highschool despite being middle aged in part 6

>Darby
>The fight were Jotaro literally won only by acting cool
>Good

Jotaro legitimately looks younger in every later part.

He had a decent motivation, but it came off as rather stupidly handled

Being permanently anonymous, yet keeping power over his gang and going untouched his entire life. The part where Araki fucked up was making "le epic Trish twist"

The shame also comes from he's the follow up to Yoshikage Kira of all antagonists

He also becomes a better character.

>Hating a fight that literally plays off and perfectly builds on one of the central traits of the character.

Never become a writer.

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Best side fights of each part:

Jonathan vs Bruford
Joseph vs Wamuu
Polnareff vs Vanilla Ice
Highway Star
Grateful Dead/Beach Boy
Underworld
Man's World

Not sure on part 8 yet.

>>Hating a fight that literally plays off and perfectly builds on one of the central traits of the character.
Yes, completely ridiculous asspulls he gets by merit of being the main character and beating people at things he has no skills in whatsoever or has ever shown before

>Jonathan vs. Bruford

Wow, you're fucking right. What the hell

Change grateful deal with Rolling Stones and change Underworld with the dude who kept trying to kill himself.

Also I think there is somewhat of an argument for Joseph/Straights and Ceasar/Wamuu but I would put Joseph/Wamuu too.

It's time to claim your JoJofu.

But that's the thing. D'arby's stand only works if you admit defeat in your heart

If you're that cool and confident even in loss then it can't work.

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For part 8 I feel Gappy v Ojiro or Kira v Damo were good fights

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What the fuck do you even think you're reading?

>HAH! Some high school kid who doesn't play poker could NEVER beat a poker master in real life, what an unrealistic piece of shit!

Literally you. Talking about Jojo.

I-I just want to be Kosaku and live with her for the rest of my days, Anons

Kira deserved to die for not dropping his instincts and banging this every night until we repopulated Japan

Holly or Lisa Lisa.

He's really not.

Josuke is a high school kid who's just trying to enjoy life. He shows emotion, he has actual quirks to his personality, and doesn't play the "I'm so smart, handsome, and cool" card at every turn.

The one goddamn page where Okuyasu comes back to life has more character showing for Josuke than all the scenes of Jotaro in 3/4/6 combined.

Lisa Lisa
Strong willed women is my fetish

No, you're pretending Jotaro is shown to be some amazing manipulator or poker player or something and this is a central part of his personality. it isn't. Jotaro just happens to be a master out of nowhere like he is with literally everything he attempts in part 3 and part of why so many people dislike him.

Joseph would have been a far more in character person to be good at poker than Jotaro.

I like those opinions.

>Change grateful deal with Rolling Stones

fucking why?

Why are people so triggered by this? It's clearly just mommy issues.

>Not sure on part 8 yet.

But he wasn't a master, he just knew how to beat Osiris.

It wasn't win or lose, it was admitting defeat, and he outbluffed D'arby.

Why are you so triggered by this?

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Yeah, but thankfully Trump will stop Clinton from fucking everyone over

>No, you're pretending Jotaro is shown to be some amazing manipulator or poker player or something and this is a central part of his personality.

He stays cool under any amount of pressure. It's even directly stated multiple times. Poker is known as a game where you bluff and try to keep your cool. He bets his soul, his friends soul, his grandfathers soul and his own mother's soul on a hand he doesn't even know while subtlely convincing D'arby that he has the potential to cheat (which has nothing to do with poker and everything to do with the abilities of hi stand).

He didn't outplay D'arby at the game itself, he just made an absolutely absurd and unbelievable bet without even looking at his cards to show just how solid he is under unthinkable pressure.

Go back to school if you can't comprehend such simple story-telling.

It's not even that, he's just talking shit to who he thinks is some random woman. Only Hato actually remembers Kaato enough out of the three of them

Because it's arguably one of the best chapters in the entire series.

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You forgot about Beetle Tendency, Grateful Dead/Beach Boy and Vitamin C, though I suppose Vitamin C wasn't much of a fight.

Reminder that the very first thing we see of Jolyne is her masturbating.

Vitamin C was cool as fuck but the payoff was shit

you idiots, he clearly wasnt serious about wanting to Suck her TIts...
He was pissed at her because she was showing up out of Nowhere after 15 years, wanting to take a large amount of the family's wealth.
He was trying to make a fool out of her.
when he says he wants to suck her tits, he means for Breast Milk, because She made a comment about Joshuu not drinking enough milk when insulting his hair.

i thought what he did was a mix between both Badass, and pure Autistic sperglord rage.

Done.

Reminder time.

3 > 2 > 4 > 1 > 5 > 7 > 6.

get the fuck out of here

7 > 4 > 2 > 8 > 1 = 5 > 6 > 3

What? It was great, the flashback had an emotional ending, we got to see more of ice cold Gappy and Hato's Stand was pretty cool.

see

No, I'm right.

I don´t know OP. I only know Joubin is a bastard and i hope he is following Damo soon.

And for all those retards saying shit like "Joushuu incest", you didn´t get a shit from this chapter. Joushuu don´t give a fuck about his mom, he barely met her when we was still infant. The only person who raised him and was behaving good to him is Norisuke. And you can see Joushuu really, really likes his father.

So what did he do when he saw Norisuke not being okay with Kaato there ? That´s right, he tried to push her off from theirs house, without hurting her seriously. He didn´t give a shit about her, he just didn´t want to see Norisuke in pain because of her.
Seriously, NKC is probably strongest Stand in Jojolion now. Joushuu could kill Kaato anytime and some shitty cards Stand isn´t able to stop him.

>no white album
>no guard westwood
>no tatu yu

>We might not get another JoJo game because it's been tarnished.

Shit man. That's not even fucking fair. They just needed to not put in some fucking stupid gimmick and just make an ASB2. That team shit was what turned everyone off of it. You couldn't even do true singles matches. Who plays a fighting game just to fight in ONLY teams?

They had something real potentially good, but CC2 seemingly took the lazy path and wanted to get sales out of the team gimmick thing. It wasn't attractive at all and nobody literally asked for this.

Man, it's real fucked. I'd take any JoJo game though, even a fucking musou.

People who rate 3 as the worst never fail to amuse me. We get it, you're too cool for whatever's popular, go back to playing Reaper in Overwatch already, let the grownups talk.

>Its well known that he wants to suck jotaro's dick
He literally had jotaro's head cut in half and then restarted the universe just so people would stop asking for more Jotaro.

>NKC is probably strongest Stand in Jojolion now
Not while Soft & Wet exists. We have yet to see a limit on what it can steal.

Gappy will become the antagonist and steal time

It can only steal physical properties, and has to touch the thing it wants to steal.

Why didn't Josuke just revert The World Over Heaven back to its original state

Soft & Wet is now behind NKC. That can change in time and it probably will but right now Joushuu could beat Gappy.

Are people really that retarded to not get what he was saying? Well, i mean, people are retarded enough to not understand how KC works to this day so i shouldn't really be surprised.

>femGappy
>flat

Except we saw S&W steal sound.
Sound isn't exactly physical, user.

That doesn't even make sense. He wasn't there.

I know she should have Jotaro's bust size, but Araki's art style is inconsistent with Gappy

He keeps drawing him too scrawny

If anything, she should have four tiddies.

It could've stolen the thing that made the sound.

>Sound isn't exactly physical

What? Are you being serious right now?

>ending somehow makes jonathan not a blatant kenshiro copy that won because he was good because he was strong.

Too pussy to recreate the superior capcom version

Yes. Considering it's a short as fuck story.

Show me a picture of sound.
And not just a representation of sound, I want sound itself.

not 2 clits

I can't believe I forgot about Tattoo You, but I don't think Westwood should be included among the best fights and as for White Album, if it is included as one of the best fights, then it's pnly barely good enough.

I liked the hand to hand combat in Westwoods fight, but the anatomy was really off for the whole thing, Araki's art took a bit of a dip in Part 6, but it was much more noticeable there. Also, if you exclude Diver Down, it broke the rules of what Stands can and cannot do for the first time since Part 3, there was no reason why Stone Free should have been held down with Jolyne when Westwood held her down.

White Album is great, but as it went on, the Stand started to feel too strong, and it made it a little boring for it to have so many advantages. I still do love the fight and how Giorno and Mista defeat Ghiaccio despite how strong White Album is, but while reading it there was a moment where it wasn't really holding my interest as much as it should have been.

Doppio vs. Risotto and Bruno vs. Diavolo are also great fights I forgot to mention.

There's also Paisley Park. it's power is quite literally "Pick from two random objects to make an asspull happen" and not once as Yasuho ever choose something to not work in her favor as well as it's a punch ghost too

Jon didn't win shit in the end. Dio still was alive and he didn't beat the ultimate life form like le meme man did. Everything he ever lived for was for naught and the only salvation out of his entire adventure was George II

Yes he was a Kenshiro copy, but his personality is more optimistic and positive than Kenshiro's more somber and stoic tone

>Gappy will become the antagonist and steal time

Would be really nice to see this. Especially now when he is going to try to raise money for Holly. I can imagine Gappy getting more and more aggresive and cold when Holly will start getting worse. And Gappy is already one cold motherfucker. Torturing people, killing people, stealing. Must be Kira in him.

I guess the wind doesn't physically exist either. Fucking Cred Forums, you don't think it can get worse than food analogies, then some one comes along and says sound doesn't physically exist.

sound waves are energy, That's more Physical than Time itsself, i'd say.

time is a physical thing.

Why is Paisley park so sexual?

Stands are expressions of the users desire, so it's only natural that Yasuho's Stand would just be herself in a skin tight bodysuit. The map of streets reflects the fact that she wants to be dressed this way in public.

neither of them have any depth to their character. both of them react to things and never think to do stuff on their own.

>"oh hey this new anime Jejo is really cool"
>"doradoradora xD"
>"i wonder who is main villain"
>google diu main villain
>check jojowiki
>"oh he looks so cool he is my favourite now xD"
>votes for Kira

And that´s why it´s irrelevant when Kira came out in animu.

Besides, only good Kira is sailor Kira. Anyone who disagrees have a shit taste and should not be trusted.

so abdul just wanted fried chicken?

I own a fleshlight with that.

Hello.

angry eyebrows

boypucci

White Album got pretty strong but it made the whole fight more tense and guessing how we're they ever going to be Ghiacciio as well justify how much planning and quick thinking Giorno and Mista had to do to keep him at bay

Because Nazis were the good guys. The JoJo family saw through the jew's lies.

They're some of the first Shonen protagonists ever written, so their characters are very simple and straight to the point. But there is still a difference between them, major differences that set them apart despite similar designs

Duh

Best part of White Album was Mista bullshitting that surfboard

>only good Kira is sailor Kira
Nah, fuck your opinion.

Araki needs to revamp that spin off

the only difference that set them apart is what happened TO them. point is, jonathan isn't fleshed out enough to be considered anything but the worst jojo protag. Alltogether, phantom blood comes from a time where araki didn't know what direction he wanted to take with his art and writing. This is why Part 2 is so different. He figured out his call.

>gay dancing priest's wild ride
I don't wanna get off

Gappy is the villain since he's Kira, Joubin was working for the rock people to get to the origins of the fruits to destroy it all, that's why he was like that when he saw Damo getting killed since it was probably his only connection left, but since Gappy will do anything to get the fruits to save Holly he'll become the villain while Joubin will be the hero trying to stop him.

Joubin can fuck off. I don´t trust that guy.

Why haven't you gay niggas found a camrip of the shitty Phantom Blood movie and uploaded it online yet?

Because it just doesn't exist user. It aired once almost 9 years ago and the studio doesn't have it anymore. The producer dying meant everyone pulled support and left it an anomaly for future generations to speculate how bad it was

Having lost media in this millennia is ridiculous

Because one doesn't exist. It was shown in Japan once and presumably, it was under strict security.

I know he'll probably never come back to this, since he reset the universe and all. But I was kind off expecting a little more than Kira losing his arm again.

>gappy that low
>DIO over valentine
>joseph higher than josuke

Shit poll desu senpai

It wasn't a traditional fighter like the previous two

Who doesn't?

Has Araki ever explained why it has such a bad reputation?

>it only returns things to a prior state
Remember when jojo turned a man in to a deformed rock?

Not that I'm aware of, but every indication is that it was an absolute trainwreck of a film. To the point that, for a long time, Araki refused any further adaptations of his work and allegedly had to be convinced to let the recent anime start at part one.

Yes, the movie was so bad, it made him hate his own work.

Araki doesn't care about any animation, good or bad.

It's little things for an already simple story

>Didn't really explain Hamon
>Cut out Speedwagon
>Cut out all of the Hamon tribe that show up late in the Part

Two hours was definitely not kind to it. Maybe it was entertaining in its own right, but as an adaption it was pretty poor. The best thing to come out of it was the PS2 video game released with it that actually adapted the Part

No family bonding moments between Jonathan and his descendants

Weren't they going to adapt Part 2, as well? Could you imagine how shit that would be?

Pretty shit I'd imagine, and they were before the plug was pulled. Storyboards were leaked

How Storyboards leaked and not a fucking movie is beyond me