Building a PC but I'm an idiot

Thanks. Let me shuffle some things around

>Spending $80 on a OS

user just fucking pirate windows but everything looks good i would get 2x4gb ram for dual channel also don't listen to videocard shills the 480 is good enough.

How's this build? I've been constantly revising it, but from what I gather, the case and mobo are solid, so I'll probably get those first.

pcpartpicker.com/list/Zdxb2R

No hdd, mouse, keyboard, or monitor because I have those already.

>480 NITRO
Get a MSI gaming x

>Paying for windows

Kill yourself. Use that money for a 8GB RX 480

If you live near a microcenter consider buying the cpu and motherboard from them as a combo, gives 30 dollars off the motherboard and their cpus are the cheapest you can get, $200 at microcenter will get you the 6600k instead of that 6500.

Nice. Yea i'll probably pirate it. I just wanted it on the list.
Here's the revised list. Is a 500W power supply enough or should I go for a 520, 550 or 600? The system draws 401W so I figure 500 is good. I'll look into getting a 8GB 480 as well

I haven't checked but I'll look into that

You don't need a Z170 Mobo for a non overclockable CPU. Grab Win7 for 20 bucks from Kinguin or similar websites. Besides that, I like the i5 6500/RX480 combo. The GPU is still the bottleneck in the fast majority of games, but there's no significant power difference.

Your i3 will be a bottleneck, get an i5 instead. Same one as the OP will do.

>Using a non-k processor with an overclockable mobo.
>Sandmeme SSD.
>Expensive case for no reason.
>Buying an OS.
Yes, you are retarded.

Why get the 4GB 480? Why not 8?

Is there something im missing out on?

Fellow idiot here, been toying with a target PC to go for to motivate myself to get up in the morning and go to work, but I'm fairly clueless as to what to get and what goes well with what.

What should I improve? Was aiming for under the £1000 mark

uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MvdrM8

Not sure on the case, for one. Completely clueless when it comes to cases.

I've changed the mobo and PS now and I changed to a 8GB 480. What's a good case? I wanted to get one with nice airflow and maybe dust filters but there's a lot to choose from.

My pc built thread was deleteted but this cunt... stupid british cunts

Nope, just retarded. I updated my list to a 8GB but I haven't taken a screenshot yet

>ASUS E motherboard
Get a A or PRO version.

Get a EVGA 750 G2 PSU and push the Sandisk Ultra to a 850 EVO.

There's an easy way to get win 7 free straight from M$. Just do some googling. You bothered with reserching pc parts why not bother saving some cash? Though you will need Windows loader.

you forgot 1 stick of RAM

Sandisk is not bad, is just that 850 EVO is that good.

>Draws 400W out a 480W PSU
Always get a PSU with 30% overhead of what your current PC uses, stressing a PSU is never a good idea.

Rule No.1 of building a PC, never cheap out in the PSU.

Don't get a haswell CPU m8. There's barely a goddamn price difference and it just isn't worth it.

All cases basically have the same kind of airflow nowadays, and dust isn't an issue if you have positive air pressure into the case, I have neutral in mine, and I have no dust at all.

Americunt here, sorry.

Ok here's my updated list again. Just assume I won't buy W10. What else should I change? I'm still curious about the PS, case, and SSD.

get a 1200W PSU the rx480 draws a lot DUUUUUDE

Get 64GB of RAM you idiot.

>buying Windows 10

Just download the .iso from the official Microsoft site and then activate it using KMS (be careful, there are few places to find a legit copy)

>Building a PC
You didn't have to tell us you were an idiot user.

Get 650W PSU

Either go Samsung for SSD or not at all. If you're so concerned with money. You dont even need the SSD at all. Its a luxury. You could just get it a few months down the line

Why don't you move to the pc building general over at Cred Forums as opposed to opening new threads on Cred Forums?

Get a EVGA 650 G1 or GS.
Why not a Corsair 200R for something cheaper?
Get a 850 EVO SSD, yours is good, but the 850 evo is better.
Your motherboard cant SLI efficiently but is not like it matters (PCIe slots work at x16 and x4 instead x8 and x8).

>MSI over Sapphire
Holy shit you kill yourself
Sapphire is the only brand that makes AMD right

In yuropoorland the service is so-so. MSI and EVGA (Nvidia) are superior.

Also one huge problem of that motherboard is the KILLER NIC ethernet.
Avoid that motherboard for that alone, get a GA-Z170XP-SLI.

16GB RAM
Pirate W7
get a GTX 1060 or an R9 Fury instead of the R10 480

pcpartpicker.com/list/qpDkf8

>In yuropoorland the service is so-so.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I live in Denmark, one of the countries that pays the most in tax and VAT in the world and MSI is overpriced shit overhere.

Not only that but Sapphire makes the best coolers for eatch card and not just the same shit MSI alwasy slaps on

Dude get a better PSU
600 at least and make it gold.
Don't cheap out on the thing that is literally powering you rig man

Okay, I just had a closer look at your list. It's shit, scrap everything and start again. 960 is overpriced and outclassed vs RX480/GTX1060 unless you can get it for cheap, you went with a haswell mobo/CPU even though it's last gen and there's no fucking purpose to picking an older architecture, silver/bronze certified PSUs are perfectly fine if you go with a lower budget/watt build.. The rest is okayish, I guess.

I might toss the SSD for now, yea. I'll continue to look at power supplies. Thanks for the advice
Even though I only plan on having one card and I won't overclock?
People argue more over here. I think it's easier to learn about things when people argue

the msi card is cooler and quiter than the sapphire

it's a rare case but it's pretty good

I'm talking about returning a broken/non functioning GPU within warranty.

Yes, the Killer NIC does honor to its name and literally makes your ethernet port stop working.
So you cant have internet unless you buy a PCIe to Ethernet adapter.

Just google E2200 problems.

my 290 tri-x rattles, sounds like a fucking airplane and is always at 80-95 degrees

also the heat has worn off the paint on the front plate

My case has 6 fans and a cpu cooler

How's the case in that build? Also, I would think I'd drop down to an i5 instead. Any reason to go for an i7? I only plan on doing 1080p and single card gaming really
Thanks for the heads up. I know the PS is important but I'm not sure what's exactly underpowered and whats overkill. I'll check out a 600W one

Some motherboard options are:
GA-Z170XP-SLI ($110+-)
ASUS Z170-P($100)
MSI B150M Mortar ($85)

>Any reason to go for an i7? I only plan on doing 1080p and single card gaming really
No, no reason whatsoever.

Alright, thanks. That's something I'll definitely change around then

First off please dont pay for windows 7 since it will be out the door in 3 years.
Secondly take that money and get a 1060 6 GB
Third, I would just get a 500GB SSD and get a 1-2 TB HDD later if you really need to save all that porno.
And Finally get some sort of aftermarket cpu cooler, even if its a 20 dollar one, stock intel sinks are shit.

Awesome, thanks. I only plan to do single card still so I'll check out the Z170-P and the B150M

That's what I figured. Thanks

There is no reason to get a I7 for gaming since you barely will see benefit from it.

I really think buying a PC to play vidya is not worth it. I went to that Cred Forums thread and they even said that PC parts barely hold out for 3 years and then you have to replace them.
And the CPU and GPU alone are already way more expensive than the newest consoles and all you get is a slight edge in terms of performance, while still having to deal with crappy optimisation because games are made with consoles in mind.

If you don't give a shit about money and are able to put a shitload of effort into it, it's objectively better than consoles but if you don't, it's not a good idea.

Used a AMD FX-6350 and a 7580 for 4 years before upgrading to i5K and a R9 390 this year and i have never had any problems.

the only thing might be the sound as you said on the tri-serise but mine works like a charm alwasy keeping mine under 50C

massive rips
high quality rips

>Third, I would just get a 500GB SSD and get a 1-2 TB HDD later if you really need to save all that porno.

He can just cloudfare the porn.

Newer AMD cards run so fucking hot, my old 7950 (rebranded as the 280) runs at 65°C as the absolute max and by now it must be pretty dusty (haven't cleaned it for a while.)

I don't know when we started accepting upwards of 80°C as normal operating standards, the thing throttles at 95°C for Christ's sake.

>7580
I meant 7785

The only part you have to replace every 3 years is the GPU, that is if you want because you bought a mid end one and not a high end GPU.

You can use the same CPU for years, way more if you can overclock it.
People still use their I5-2500K from 2011 with no problems.

Please recommend me a good monitor for $500-$600 CAD.

1440 and IPS are a plus, I won't hold my breath for 144hz.

Not videogames user, as in Cred Forumssqt or Cred Forumsbuild

What do you mean by a Haswell exactly?

Haswell = 4th gen Intel CPUs.
Aka G3XXX, I3-4xxx, I5-4XXXX, I7-XXXX series.

Your 4430. Get a Skylake (6xxx) series CPU instead, with a LGA 1151 mobo chipset (also for Skylake)

Despite making the best AMD cards performance wise Sapphire's customer service and warranty are pretty shit.

I've been playing on consoles forever. Also, my computer is already 10 years old. I want to play more games and have a better computer. Win-win

Here's an updated list again. I'm pretty satisfied with it. Last thing I might change is GPU, case, and toss the SSD for now. Anyone with a 480 run into issue like overheating?

That sounds more reasonable.
It's probably difficult to answer but how long would a GPU be good enough to keep playing the newest games with at least decent settings?

How bad is cheaping out in a motherboard?

Im planning to get a MSI Z97 PC Mate because budget problems.

Should i save and get a ASUS Z97-A USB 3.1 or cheap out and get a GA-B85M-D3H?

CPU is I5-4460.

Honestly? I'm the guy with the 7950 and I can still play most games at medium settings. It's 4 years old now. I will replace it with a RX580(fingers crossed)/1070 soonish though as it's definitely needing a replacement by now.

>not waiting for zen/kaby lake which are 3 months away from release

???

Recent mid end GPUs can play games at high-highest settings at 60FPS at 1080FPS with no problems and will for some time.

High end GPUs are for people who want to play at 144Hz or higher resolutions.

Redpill me on AMD processors
4.7GHz seems like an awful lot compared for the price it has

What's the catch?

My brother has been using a GTX 660 since 2012. He's able to play all of the games he likes that GTA and Fallout with no issues. If you want a card thats going to match high-end games coming out now, you're gonna want to get a good GPU. Also, just getting a good GPU now is an investment that'll carry you for years

>core i5

You're doing on purpose aren't you?

>How bad is cheaping out in a motherboard?
Second thing I wouldn't cheap out on next to a PSU

the mobo is something you don't skimp on, don't buy some cheap ass 60 dollar mobo, get a nice one

Shit singlecore performance even overclocked.

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAB714894154

Has everything you're looking for but it's a third party manufacturer. The only bad thing I see is the stand (replaceable) and it has that weird glow. Personally i'd save up for a better one with everything

Which GPU is a mid end one? The Nvidia page has those up to 140€ as decent gaming GPUs, is that really enough to get a decent GPU?
I was expecting more around 300-500€

meant to reply to

RX 480/GTX 1060 are this gen mid end GPUs.

GTX 950 is a low end GPU, replaced the old low end power saving GTX 750Ti.

Bulldozer is shit, don't even bother buying any of the current AMD processors.
youtube.com/watch?v=nLkaNWo0EV0

And that's an FX8300 (8 cores), it can barely match an i3 6100 (2 cores, 2 hyperthreaded) in fucking vidya.

SOME

Also GT arent gaming cards, are literally just werk GPUs to output video in computers with no IGPU like office machines.

Ah okay.

I've swapped to an Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor and Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H DDR3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard, but now I'm getting a compatibility issue that the RAM runs at too high a voltage (Operating voltage of 1.5V, whereas recommended maximum is 1.417V for skylake)

Nothing to be worried about though, right?

I'm using a Sapphire 480 8GB with a 6600k and I've only got a 450W PSU. I haven't had an issue. 480 doesn't draw a lot of power.

I see. The price for the GTX 1060 seems decent actually.

>I've swapped to an Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor and Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H DDR3 Micro ATX LGA1151
NOOOO! What the fuck? Why would you move from a 4430 to a 6700k. Those are not even comparable. Your i5 4430 haswell would be equivalent to a i5 6400 skylake, but I'd recommend a i5 6500 as the performance difference is significant for only 10-20 bucks more.

Also, the mobo doesn't allow for overclocks while the 6700k is an overclocking beast, but that shouldn't matter with the i5 non K.

user, get a I5-6500, you dont need a I7 for multiple reasons.

Your Motherboard is locked, and your CPU is unlocked, you need a Z170 motherboard and a really good HSF.
I7 is useless for gaming, literally I5 performance, they are for video editing and other heavy stuff, games rarely max a I5 CPU.

And the memory issue is because Skylake uses DDR4 ram which works at 1.3v, and DDR3 runs at 1.5v.
You need DDR4 RAM.

Heads up just get a clean iso of windows from here

microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10/

and then use this tool to activate once you finished installing it

forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/28669-Microsoft-Toolkit-Official-KMS-Solution-for-Microsoft-Products

Don't download pirated windows torrents as the uploaded could easily make it install weird shit

That's cute. People still buy from Outlet PC.

Also you do realize you can buy parts cheaper on Craigslist right?

pcpartpicker.com/list/HM2b2R
different user is this any good?

>get a i5

Get a load of this guy

its ok but two 4gb sticks > one 8 gb stick

You could spend less on case but looks really good.

I can always hold out for another month and accrue more cash for it. What range do you think I'd have to set my sights on? Around 1,000 or higher?

cool. thanks for the info

Any better? Swapping RAM to DDR4 threw a compatibility issue with the motherboard, so had to swap

Not OP but thanks for the tool, I've been dealing with that stupid "Activate Windows" watermark in the bottom corner for like two weeks because I didn't even know where to look to find a legitimate tool that didn't make me nervous that I was installing a virus or some shit.

Awesome. Thanks dude

Get a 850 EVO instead 840, they are different SSDs.

Get a 2TB WD Black or Blue instead seagate.
600-650W PSU.
Since you are from europe im probably EVGA wont be a option so check rosewill.

Get your os from ebay if youre scared to pirate it, its way cheaper iirc
I was because I dont know how to pirate and im scared to

You don't need a Z170 mobo for a non overclockable (non K) CPU. Get a decent B150 mobo for a lot less.

Z170 is for i5 6600k or i7 6700k.

Not him but if you are using W7 you are better using Daz Loader.

Z170 is nice to have but you could buy a B150 motherboard, you will lose some stuff but you save money.
If you dont mind saving money and get something good keep the Z170.

I'm not OP, but how do I go about properly OCing my CPU? I've over clocked my GPU a million times, but I have no idea how to do a CPU. I know you need to adjust it in the BIOS, and I've found the values, i just don't know the process and how to go about checking stability.

I'd say dump the ssd and do this

pcpartpicker.com/list/qhxb2R

Nah I'm on 10 because the idea of Microsoft having to look through all my weird porn and search history makes me laugh

CPU overclocking is kinda hard, just dont fuck with voltage a lot.
ask in Cred Forumssqt.

In order to overclock a intel CPU you need a "k" CPU and a Z170 motherboard (Z97, X99 for other sockets).

>buying windows

The B150 is great if you don't plan to overclock, the H110 is the cheapskate motherboard, not the B150. In my opinion the Z170 is simply not an option if you go with something like the i5 6500, it has a lot of bells and whistles that you can't really use as you wont be overclocking anyway. Wasted money.

>Not OP but thanks for the tool, I've been dealing with that stupid "Activate Windows" watermark in the bottom corner for like two weeks because I didn't even know where to look to find a legitimate tool that didn't make me nervous that I was installing a virus or some shit.

Yea if you type in mstoolkit in google the first few sites are literally likely spiked with malware.

For future reference the mydigitallife forum all has legit stuff. That tool can also activate office which is what I'm using it for.

Awesome. I should probably get a cpu cooler and change my case to the 200R like another user said. Whats the direct benefit of a i5-6600k to a i5-6500?

Not you/him but.

Myidigtallife also was the place where they were developed.

Well I've got a 6600k, but my Mobo is a gigabyte H110M-A since it was the only micro ATX one that I could find that wasn't sold out on Canadian Newegg when I ordered it. Am I fucked? I definitely found values in my BIOS for over clocking the CPU.

Thanks user, I'll have to bookmark this site.

Also whats the benefit of the Z-170E compared to the B150M Mortar I have picked out?

Highly fucked, since if you even managed to overclock a bit the VRM and MOSFET would blow up and turn on fire.
Literally.

>reference RX 480
Aftermarket ones are faster, cooler, and quieter. Get MSI or Sapphire.

That's a pretty poor price for an 850 Evo. Mine was like $70 a year ago.

>Define R4
The R5 exists you know. It's much better.

>Z170 mobo and H212 Evo with a 6500
Either get H170 and no CPU cooler, or spend the extra for a 6600K

>Nvidia
Don't. Nvidia is awful. Their drivers are trash, especially for legacy cards, which yours will be the moment the 1160 comes out. Buying an Nvidia GPU was the worst hardware purchase I ever made. You couldn't pay me to go back.

It's shit. Can't keep up with six core first gen i7s clocked 1GHz lower.

the H110 shouldn't allow raising of the voltage and only limited raising of the multiplier.

Yes, you're kinda fucked. Should've gone with a cheap Z170 Mobo instead, the 6600k is a beast that is wasted on your H110.

The H110 is a budget mobo, the B150 is mid, the Z170/H170 high end.

>Awesome. I should probably get a cpu cooler and change my case to the 200R like another user said. Whats the direct benefit of a i5-6600k to a i5-6500?

Overclocking. The i5 6500 isn't bad but since you have the cash, getting an i5 6600k can easily allow you to overclock it to 4.4ghz vs the 3.2 ghz on the i5 6500. It's just useful for games that might be cpu bound like say arma 3.

In order to overclock you need a Z170 motherboard. That's pretty much the difference. Z170 mobos allows overclocking but only intel cpu with the "k" suffix can overclock.

>That's a pretty poor price for an 850 Evo. Mine was like $70 a year ago.
For whatever reason 850 EVO got a price spike recently.

I got mine for $68 in mexico now its $99-115 in US.

Welp. Are there MicroATX Z170s? I only spent like $60 on this Mobo, it wouldn't kill me to replace it.

One of the cheapests ATX Z170 is $100, why not just save a bit?

Of course there are mATX Z170s. They manage to cram X99 into mATX.

what case would you rec?

Real talk, are there any disadvantages to using a pirated copy of Windows 10?

My case only fits MicroATX, I wanted a smaller computer this time around.
Cool, I'll look around for a better mobo. Thanks guys.

Corsair 200, 300 or 500r.

>Don't. Nvidia is awful.

Then what should I get in its place?

Ah okay I get it. If I've got it right: If i stay with my i5-6500, then my B150M mobo is preferable but if I go with a i5-6600K I should get the Z170?

No. If you use the toolkit posted above to activate it's the same shit. Just make sure you install an official iso of windows from their website and not some shit you torrented off piratebay.

MS doesn't care about people doing that and don't bother blocking it. They only block enterprise versions of windows. Pretty sure they could easily block it if they wanted to but they prefer people using windows over linux.

Yea. Both cpus would work on both mobos but as the z170 mobo can allow overclocking, people only put the intel k cpus in them. Z170s cost more so people get other mobos for the intel cpus that can't overclock. But really your budget is in the ocing realm so there's no reason why you shouldn't go with that.

It's win10.

Very cool. Thanks for being so helpful. I wasn't intent on overclocking since I'm not sure how to do it really, but it's something I'd be interested to learn later on for sure. An extra 50 bucks or whatever is worth that imo.

Its not, its a meme shitposters use to start AMD vs NVIDIA wars.

Both are good.
AMD was really bad last season, they came back into the game in the mid end market.

>Cred Forums says i3 is fine
>Cred Forums says it's shit, get an i5

WHICH ONE DAMMIT

I3 as in the software you idiot, not intel I3.

RX 480. The Sapphire Nitro+ OC has the highest out of the box overclock, the MSI Gaming X is one of the cooler and quieter ones. PowerColor Red Devil and Asus Strix are good too, although the Asus tends to be overpriced.
Alternatively, there have been a lot of sales recently on Sapphire R9 Fury Nitros. I don't know if there have been any in Bongistan, but it beats the both 480 and 1060 by a decent margin and is even on par with the 1070 in D44M.

It could extent the lifespan of your CPU. Most CPUs last about 7-10 years and when overclocking you could make the most of those 7 years (it wont be 10 as overclocking reduces the lifespan of your CPU a little bit.)

As someone earlier in this thread pointed out, remember the i5 2500k. It's still in use today despite being 5-6 years old. You don't hear anything about the i5 2400 anymore, that's because those people have upgraded aeons ago.

Don't fall for the i3 meme unless you're getting a budget GPU.
youtube.com/watch?v=UDquxBK-biU

>i just don't know the process and how to go about checking stability.
start at a reasonable clockspeed increase and slowly raise the voltage until everything stops crashing

Unlocked i5's will run everything, overclocked 2500k still bottlenecks nothing after all these years
i3 if you just want to play casul games for as cheap as possible

Not a meme, my actual experience. I fucking hated my gimped piece of shit GTX 770 and I'm never giving Nvidia another cent. I've already had more performance improvement in the last two weeks of AMD drivers than the previous two years from Nvidia.

What if I don't plan on overclocking?

From what I can tell, this
youtube.com/watch?v=21IaKTKFIiE
looks ok

You should plan on overclocking, maybe not now but you will need some extra power in few years.
i3 will be a massive bottleneck in some games and less bad in others.

Very cool. Thanks for the help user. I think I'll go for the i5-6600k and Z170-E setup.

Okay, how's the following?

i5 6500's come with a stock cpu coolers

Only the intel cpus with the "k" suffix don't come with cpu coolers

You really want unlocked cpu and motherboard if dont want to upgrade in a few years, 8gb of ram and 4gb of vram is a problem on new videogames, expensive cases are a scam and a decent 500w psu is more than enough, 550 if you want to be prepared for video cards that might use a lot more power.

What do you plan on cooling with that 212?
You will never need an aftermarket cooler on a cpu that cannot be overclocked

>What do you plan on cooling with that 212?

Your mums pussy after i'm done with her

Do this instad

Add in the SSD and monitor if you really need it

>You will never need an aftermarket cooler on a cpu that cannot be overclocked
They are still hugely beneficial

>lower temps regardless
>less noise
>much better aesthetics
$30 well spent imo

It's fine, but honestly I would save a little money and get an i3 6100. Later on you can upgrade to an i5 6600K or 7600K (Kaby Lake is also going to be on 1511) if you keep the Z170 mobo.

Also you might have trouble installing Win7 from usb on Skylake CPUs

Looks good, but you don't need an aftermarket cooler for the i3. Stock will be fine.

The H170 is for multigpu, so I'd get a slightly stronger PSU so that the upgrade option exists. Also you might want to buy a 300W single GPU some day.

Wouldnt say hugely, there is no real difference when running on stock clock speeds and voltages

You dumb fucking cuck.

You don't need 650w for that setup.

I run 600w with a meh tier supply. And I have a 4.9ghz 2500k and an overclocked 1070. S

Yes there is. Both temps and noise

What the fuck are you even smoking with that PSU.

His setup will barely draw 350w from the wall under load.

He needs a high quality 500W.

>Only the intel cpus with the "k" suffix don't come with cpu coolers
Is that new? I got a copper blower with my 3570k. I believe the the 6600k for example should get you an aluminum blower included nowadays, just like all the other Skylake processors.

Bad choice of CPU. Just get an i5 6500, or an i3 6100 if your monitor is 60Hz

Looks good, personally I would upgrade the SSD to 250GB, enough for a few AAA games. Also consider the i3 6100, a great CPU for the price if you want to save money.

You really don't need that 212 EVO

Not really, the i3 is fine with a 1070. youtube.com/watch?v=21IaKTKFIiE
Nothing wrong with getting an i5 6500 though.

Personally if I were buying the 1151 platform, I'd buy a Z170 and just use an i3 6100 or i5 6500 now and upgrade to a 6600K or i7 6700K later IF I wanted to keep the platform.

No there isn't

Nothing practical on a locked CPU

Yep, new.

K

get a gtx750ti or gtx960
if you realllly want to spend the money for a better card spring for a 970

But realistically CPUs don't function without a heatsink. I can't believe Intel would be that stupid.

If you're buying an unlocked processor why the fuck would you use the stock cooler?

The i3 still bottlenecks 480/1060 tier gpu, all that video does is it proves that witcher runs at 60fps on whatever those settings are.

To OC once it's necessary. I ran on my copper blower for 3 years.

This, only got a decent cooler for my 3570k when i got my 480 and decided to overclock cpu to match gpu

If you buy an unlocked processor and don't immediately overclock it you're wasting your fucking money

The whole "cpu degradation" meme is bullshit if you keep the voltage and temps in check. It will be time to upgrade well before the cpu breaks down from the overclock.

overclockersclub.com/reviews/cm_hyper212_evo/4.htm

Overclocking is a waste of money if it's not necessary. Why OC if your CPU is not the bottleneck?

If you are buying an "enthusiast" grade unlocked processor, Intel passes the burned of cost associated with cooling to you, since the stock cooler would be insufficient anyway.

>Why OC if your CPU is not the bottleneck?
Because it's free extra performance? Even the base clocks are usually higher than the locked processor variants
Plus for a lot of people it's just fun

>Why OC if your CPU is not the bottleneck?
Because, idiot, you can still gain performance from overclocking a CPU even if it's not the bottleneck.

>free
>pay extra for unlocked
>pay extra for mobo

nice meme guys

>buying windows from retail
don't do this
just buy a key from ebay, they're like $20 at most

If im never using all the power in my cpu why do i need more?
>If you buy an unlocked processor

>December 5, 2011
>i7 920
Try something recent.

It must really suck to be forced online to download your drivers

only if you pay for power and/or overclock lazily

it's not 'free' but you spend like $30-40 more, at MOST in exchange for a feature that'll give you an extra year or two on top of what you already have

lmfao what
geforce.com/drivers

>If im never using all the power in my cpu why do i need more?
I'll give you an example.

X processor at 4.1ghz = 100fps
X processor at 4.7ghz = 118fps

Even without a bottleneck, speeding up the CPU can increase performance.

>I don't like your results!
>Post different ones!
Flag on the field Jim. user asked for more proof when proof was already given

Why don't you post something? I've made my point

>If im never using all the power in my cpu why do i need more?
So why are you asking about an unlocked processor when you aren't going to overclock it or use all of it?

Depends on the game. Yeah if it's really CPU heavy you'll drop below 60FPS, but part of building a budget oriented rig is knowing when to turn down that one setting that has almost no effect on visual fidelity. In GTAV you might have to turn down shadows and possibly draw distance, but that's it.

That picture you posted is a perfect representation of yourself

Actually you see a stupendous difference in Hyperthread vs non-hyperthread in CPU bound games.

Best build so far, looks really good.

People say you wont need the 212 EVO but trust me, its good having it.
Makes your build more silent.

Ask in
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Remove windows 7 from your buy list. You can literally torrent a cracked copy of ultimate/professional anywhere these days, copy it on a USB stick and then install it via USB stick in new PC. You can then use that 82 dollars to get a slightly better GPU, more ram, a 500gb SSD instead of a 240, etc.

Thanks user. I swapped the case for a NZXT S340 (Black/Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case because it was cheaper and more visually appealing

And thanks to everyone who's helped out, now I've got something to aim for at least.

Are there usually good price drops for components on Black friday/cyber monday?

I'll be here waiting for an actual argument

yes

>Parts are literally 2 times more expensive in mexico
Fuck.