>Here we saw the very same game, but rendering at a higher pixel rate to hand in a vastly clearer image. The code we saw suggests that Sony's checkerboard upscaler is in effect here. As with Horizon: Zero Dawn and other titles seen at the PlayStation Meeting, this renders out a 2x 1080p pixel count in a 2x2 checkerboard format, extrapolated out to get perceptibly close to the real deal. This can also manifest as a subtle stippling pattern on high-contrast edges in motion, difficult to pick out unless you ogle the screen closely.
>COD and Horizon Zero Dawn are not even 1440P >Only 1080P Checkerboarded out x2 to reconstruct to 4K like the xbone version of quantum break used 4x720P checkerboard sampling to reconstruct 1080P
So what the fuck is the point of the PS4 when you aren't even getting a resolution or framerate boost?
resolution bullshit is stupid shit for consumerist weirdos
i have a 1080p tv. im not buying a new one. just give me a solid framerate. resolution bullshit literally doesn't matter. if i sat you down in front of a 900p video and told you it was 1080p, you would believe me. resolution is a meme for megacucks.
Gabriel Bell
>who care about graphics, it's all about waiting for games
Elijah Reyes
it's thiccer
Joseph Garcia
>muh grafix!
I'd buy a $1500 PC if I'd give a fuck about it.
Cameron Stewart
thing that got me really bad was
>4X ansiostrpic filtering on ps4pro
2016 cant even do 16X filtering.
Christian Barnes
>So what the fuck is the point of the PS4 It's a cheap gaming machine dude
Sebastian Brooks
Resolution is the new audiophile
Easton Wright
>Cheap gaming machine upgraded for "4K" >Still can't do past 1080P
What the fuck is the point of the PS4 pro then?
John Foster
Read the rules
Nolan Rivera
4k? What do you need 1440p for? 1080p is more than enough.
Leo Barnes
>pc >graphics
Aaron Walker
would rather have 900p60fps than 1080p30fps with drops tbqhf
Logan Sanchez
>yes goy, go buy a 4k TV with extended protection for only $1500, you really need the upgrade
Not to mention sub 30fps and fucking horrible image quality.
Even a 480 390 and 980 could handle 4k at 30 fps
Nathan Harris
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Levi Perez
I had an hdready tv for years and decided it was time to upgrade, turns out there are amazing 4k smart TVs really fucking cheap ao I went for it, and I live in a third world shithole, but I won't need to upgrade my TV in 10 years.
Lucas Gomez
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Leo Parker
That one doesn't count.
Jace Ward
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Christian Ortiz
Looks like a PS3 game
>those awful ground textures >that awful grass jutting out of the ground in a jarring way
Elijah Phillips
The irony is that it looks much better than
Jose Murphy
> multi-plat gimped by pc
What are you trying to prove?
Landon Lopez
>Those trees >That water >Those effects Kek, is this what people seriously brag about?
Carson Adams
please be honest, how many of you actually have a 4K monitor / TV?
Jonathan Torres
>PS3 water effects >Low Level Of Detail >Little texture filtering
What are you trying to prove?
Benjamin Adams
> ITT: poorfags who never looked at a 4K TV.
As DF is already pointing out, you have to literally sit right in front of the screen and carefully watch high contract pixels to see a subtle stippling pattern
Don't act like anyone would notice the difference , you fucks.
Cooper Williams
>graphics don't count now that sony's system isn't the best one this was predicted years ago.
pretty much saying that PS4 pro doesn't have the capability to offer both better graphics and higher res at the same time and most games will have to pick one or the other
also predict that the majority of the games on ps4 pro will be running at ps4 graphics because devs won't bother to offer higher res textures and will simply increase the res(but not to 4k because it can't handle ps4 graphics at 4k)
Eli Jackson
is the jump from 1080p to 4k really that impressive compared to 360p/480p to HD though? especially for someone who won't be sitting too far from the screen.
Oliver Stewart
Why don't PC use all these tricks to make affordable 4k as well? Then probably people will start buying PCs.
Thomas Hernandez
>just step 7 ft back
You could step enough ft back to make any shit look good
Liam Bailey
Pc has been able to run 4k at 30fps+ for 3 years it's nothing new
Austin Jones
shit on it all you want but the result is pretty decent and miles better than 1080p
any word on checkerboard rendering coming to pc?
got a 4k monitor but can't run any games in 4k on gtx 1060, and scaling from 1440 looks like garbage especially compared to this checkerboard rendering fuckery
Bentley Mitchell
Keyword is affordable
Dominic Turner
>you don't even notice the upscaling artifacts and shaky framerate from halfway across your house! Gee wiz, thanks Digital Shilling and Sony!
Ian Foster
>Pc has been able to run 4k at 30fps+ for 3 years it's nothing new
>any word on checkerboard rendering coming to pc? Are you fucking kidding?
Isaac Anderson
making PC gaming more affordable won't do much in the long run
price isn't the only reason most people choose to go with consoles
Brandon Reed
No at Max not some outdated shit
Robert Lee
>and miles better than 1080p Not really, and this looks worse than native 1440p.
Daniel Harris
>can't run any games in 4k on gtx 1060 no? it looks better than 1080 or 1440p scaled to 4k so i'd have a bite of that please
Logan Carter
Try upscaling 1440p to 4K.
Cred Forums is like retardville
Nathaniel Watson
Honestly, the PS4 Pro is proof that 4K is not necessary on a TV
Dominic Cook
A console port at high settings look better and runs +60 fps at the same time
Zachary Morales
this is 1440p upscaled to 4K blurry mess lacking of any detail, try swap between this and the checkerboarded pic from horizon and tell which is clearer and sharper
Mason Hall
PS4 Pro is the best news of the year !
Jaxson Miller
Can 4K just fuck off on consoles
for fucks sake we barely can get 1080p 60FPS in most games on consoles, now people are screaming for 4K?
Logan Wood
But here's the thing.
Would anyone know the difference between native 4k and whatever the fuck PS4 Pro is doing?
Nicholas Russell
we actually dont know the AF levels for horizon
Kevin Brooks
Still the Crysis pic because its upscaling from a bigger resolution so detail will still pop. Horizon ZD is scaling from 2x1080P images using a checkerboard uspscaling and "Nearest Neighbour" technique which makes it blurrier.
Native 4K and upscaled 4K is even more stark and noticeable than the difference between 720P and 1080P, user.
Gavin Rodriguez
i gave the crysis pic every advantage tho, 4xTXAA High and billinear scaling so it doesnt turn afwul like nearest neighbor here it is with nearest neighbor to 4K and horizon still looks nicer and not as jaggy
Dominic Nelson
>if i sat you down in front of a 900p video and told you it was 1080p, you would believe me. Eh, recently when I played the titanfall 2 beta it looked a bit blurry to me on my 42 inch TV. Later I found out from v that it's 900p on ps4. Didn't even try googling it or anything some pcuck was memeing that it was 900p and I was like k that makes sense. Not that I give a shit, just saying I could definitely see the difference between 900p and 1080p without even looking for it.
Luke Evans
This, 1080p still looks good to me and for that I am glad. I don't have to waste my money on high end shit to get diminishing returns.
Too bad this feel will only last a year or two more...
Jose Harris
DELET THIS
Carter Lee
>tfw got a gaystation 4 and black cocks for $280 >tfw hdr TV >tfw didn't fall for the pro meme
lmao at idiots buying this shit for 4k*
Isaiah Hughes
>Too bad this feel will only last a year or two more... Its crazy how console games and resolution age.
I remember the first time I saw cod4 on my ps3. It actually looked stunningly beautiful at release date. Played it again yesterday briefly on ps3 and I was shocked at how bad it looked.
Evan Brooks
>take a factual article to push console bias
Cred Forums, everyone
Grayson Brown
>4xTXAA Crysis 3 doesn't even have TXAA m8. Also, Horizon still looks worse than both of those screenshots, which is hilarious considering Crysis 3 is almost 4 years old.
Caleb Green
Are you retarded? 1440p actually upscales to 4k pretty decently.
Aaron Nguyen
Nice try, Sony
Evan Gray
but you are it's 1440p-1800p upscaled or 1080 with ssaa, cod might be lower since it's doing 60 fps
Elijah Johnson
come on now who are you trying to fool
Thomas Harris
Color me surprised, I figured it was just SMAA/MSAA/FXAA. That said, you're better off with SMAA, TXAA is blurry garbage. Also >high Disgusting
Lucas Morales
nvidia likes money
Andrew White
The hell do you call this then?
Daniel Garcia
Rainbow Six Siege on PC does use something like this, but you can disable it. Frankly, I don't think it's worth it, especially considering how ugly a lot of the games that use it are.
Carson Reed
It doesn't do shit to Bloodborne.
The only reason to own a PS4 doesn't see any benefit from the new machine. And it doesn't even do 4k bluray either.
Seriously not sure what the purpose of this machine is at the moment, unless they're just prepositioning it as a better VR experience.
Noah Cooper
I was hoping for a w3 patch but heard it's getting jack shit
William Evans
I bought a slim. Mid-cycle upgrades are a garbage idea, I don't support it.
Gavin Campbell
>can't run fucking Cowadooty at even 1440p What's the fucking point of this console.
Also >4x anisotropic filtering
What? I've always turned anisotropic to max ever since it was introduced because it has never affected performance, what's up with it on consoles?
Eli Martin
>Implying you won't get more benefit if you have it looked up to a 1080p I'll take stable framerate any day of the week instead of the hdr meme
Elijah Clark
You did good
Wyatt Taylor
framerate is a meme too, the importance of which depends on the game. Most games with bad framerates would not be good even if they had a higher framerate, people use framerate as a deciding factor on if to play a game instead of the actual game design itself.
>there are people who claim anything under 120FPS gives them ass cancer
Nolan Cook
yeah i really really dont give a fuck. im just waiting to see if any games get a framerate buff from this bullshite.
Juan Rivera
I honestly know nothing about tech so this Pro shit confuses me desu. Like I guess if I don't own a 4K monitor, then there's no performance boost or anything?
Ryan Hall
1080p is fine 4k is for idiots who have to much money.
Nathan Brown
they said the machine will detect if you're using a 4k or 1080p screen, and then adjust the game to either give you more fps or more resolution some games would give you the option to choose too i think, tomb raider
Wyatt Lee
>2560×1440 = 3,686,400 >1920×1080 = 2,073,600 >2,073,600 x 2 = 4,147,200 >COD and Horizon Zero Dawn are not even 1440P Are you retarded OP? Oh right... you are a PCuck and we all know PCucks are always butthurt and always lying.
Leo Hall
>Sonyfag doesn't know how Checkerboard uprendering works
It's two 1080P images drawn and sampled to give a 4K framebuffer. It's still 1080P just like Quantum Break was still 720P on Xbone despite using the same technique of 4x720P samples to reconstruct an image.
Both are only 1080P. Deal with it.
Nolan Cooper
>OP doesn't know what supersampling is
What the fuck, are you from 2000 or something?
Aaron Gray
So you are a retard, good to know.
Andrew Peterson
>This one faggot doesn't know either what supersampling is
Cred Forums really amuses me, full of ignorant fucks, holy shit.
Nathaniel Evans
F*CK
Nolan Rivera
>No rebuttals, Only insults >Thinks a 1080P Buffer game can supersample on a 1080P >Buys a 4K* console for 1080P
The stench of Sonyggers being BTFO is overwhelming in here
*Upscaled from 1080P
Daniel Lewis
>memes memes memes The PS4 Pro renders those games at 2 times the resolution of 1080p and then use the checkerboard method to upress it to 4K. There, this will be the last time I will post in this retarded thread.
Gabriel Thompson
Get your eyes checked or get a bigger TV.
Ayden Barnes
>this will be the last time I will post in this retarded thread
Why? It suits you.
Justin Cruz
>2016 >being a consolecuck FTFY
Kevin Baker
Using the same technique, Quantum Break used on the Xbone rendering 4x720P images to compose a 1080P output where Guerilla and Infinity ward are rendering two 2x1080P images to create a 4K output buffer
So still only 1080P then. Thanks for clearing it up Sonyfriend.
William Nguyen
>What the fuck is the point of the PS4 pro then? To give sony your money
Nathaniel Morales
Nice, CGI trailers.
Jack Lee
I love how they trotted out the "It would make multiplayer games too unfair!" excuse for not allowing games to have better framerate options.
Connor Jones
All that matters to me is the games look and rub better.
Jesus Christ you people make PC owners who actually like videogames look bad
Christopher Cox
It would.
But that doesn't mean single player games can't see a benefit and won't get one.
Juan Miller
do all the games run at 60fps on pro???????
i have to know
Hunter Taylor
60fps subnative 4k with blurry textures...
Nathan Ross
The problem is that most ps4 games will have neither. There is no reason why better hardware shouldn't automatically mean stabler framerates on all existing titles other than Sony being cunts.
Brandon Martin
You misunderstand. That requirement exists for the platform wholesale; single-player games lose this option because of multiplayer.
Thomas Jackson
I just bought a regular ps4 after hearing that at best I'm gonna get 4k resolution out of the pro version
idgaf about 4k resolution, my tv doesn't support it and I have 0 intention of buying one as it is of yet still a marketing scam and not a visual upgrade worth getting on a tv
I know I could have waited for the price drop, but my ps3 died on me and I've been wanting to play a bunch of ps4 games for a while now anyways
Jayden Harris
>Sonyggers and microshills still think that sony & microsoft are going to sell them the hardware that costs several thousand bucks which is required to run native 4k resolution at acceptable frame rates for 400 bucks. Consolefags are dumber than the average nigger. Enjoy your downclocked RX 470 for 399$ you faggots!
Logan Ortiz
Except they mentioned patches improving fps...?
Thomas Hughes
Pro will have better looking games and more stable fps which is what I want.
This is why I am buying it and have waited to buy a PS4. I don't give a fuck about the 4k meme.
Gabriel Morgan
can you play the game w/o the fucking minimap? last time i checked cavemen weren't into gps that much
Andrew Bell
That was just to cover the fact that they can't do 60 fps with that shit cpu
If they cared about multiplayer games being too unfair, they wouldn't have advertised and sold that 150 dollar mouse thing
Or the fact that a higher res than 1080p would easily allow for an advantage in online etc etc
Parker Powell
>Here we saw the very same game literally sony since ps3
Mason Long
>they wouldn't have advertised and sold that 150 dollar mouse thing
??
Christopher Davis
idk..having the choice like in the coming Rise of Tomb Raider between 1080p 60fps and 4k(?) sounds pretty cool. Too bad it's not really confirmed for other games
Kevin Wilson
Sonycucks BTFO
Brayden Ward
No idea why sony didn't stick 12gb vram in there like the scorpio will have. That will be the most telling difference in future comparisons
Elijah Hernandez
This desu. Do you anons really want to move your furniture around just for a meme?
Ethan Nelson
>PS4 >60 FPS
apex kek
Leo Flores
>this renders out a 2x 1080p pixel count in a 2x2 checkerboard format Exactly what Sony said since the beginning PS4 Pro would do, render games at 4mp instead of 4K's 8mp, because a reconstructed 4mp image is better than a 2mp upscaled.
Hunter Lewis
>Fake upscaled 4k
Thanks sony now I have to wait for the scorpio for true 4k now
Brody Smith
You mean a downclocked RX480.
Gabriel Perry
holy shit all the delusion in this post.
Isaiah Gomez
this
William Williams
What is it about the PS4 that gets Cred Forums so upset?
William Ross
Heard that's getting boosted to 7TF with a memory bandwidth of 384mb/s
Jacob Ward
I have a very expensive big 1080p tv. If you said something is 900p, I would probably check that out. If I am playing a game and have the filters turned off, it's noticeable. Call me an autist if you want, but I am a "visualphile" if that's even a word.
I agree with the rest though. I wont buy a new tv since this one cost more than a new car and I am more than happy. 1080p is fine, give me stable framerate and not this buzzword marketing bullshit.
Anthony Bell
1080p 40fps and 2x(aka basically 1440p) at sub 30fps or sub 30fps at ultra settings
This is CONFIRMED. No 60fps and and no 4k.
Logan Hughes
>Turn down brightness on tv >problem solved
It's sad there are people that hyper analyze graphics so much. Yes graphics are important but damn.
Eli Hughes
It's been downclocked so much that it's basically a downclocked 470.
Aaron Sanders
Wow you used bicubic to upscale instead of their 2x2 checkerboard upscaling so your post is utterly meaningless.
Ian Young
nice bullshot rendered on a quad SLI pc
Kayden Gutierrez
>brightness turns down vaseline filters, depth of field, and bloom Stay mental you fucking cuck.
Nathan Lee
>that water >2d trees just like Farcry 4 on ps4
Kayden Torres
i know that crysis 3 actually exists while on the other hand - there is no credible game play footage of horizon dawn on an actual ps4/pro.
Dominic Harris
>Heard that's getting boosted to 7TF
Owen James
It's a console game: >Still waiting to be impressed >CGI trailers >enjoy your 19 fps
If it would be a PC game: >OMG what a nice innovation of monsters >this game actually has gameplay and is not just a walking sim >what a nice effects it has despite being a PC game, thanks for not being another clone of League of Legends
Andrew Martin
the lies
Aaron Thomas
>and horizon still looks nicer and not as jaggy Because you haven't disabled CA in Crysis 3 you retard, that's extremely obvious.
Eli Hernandez
Depends on the distance you sit from the TV, that said I have a 4k tv and watch everything on 1080p, I see no difference with native 4k stuff. 48 inch and about 1.5 meters away from my TV.
As for games, framerate over resolution any day.
Ethan Sanders
this is the state Cred Forums is in right now, my god
Jose Long
this, console faggots dont even understand chromatic aberation
Jace Kelly
>Being this mad over simply turning down the brightness to improve the picture GG
Owen Peterson
Crushing blacks doesn't improve the picture.
Andrew Evans
you dont have any native 4k stuff. a 4k blu ray movie would be 60 gigabytes.
Josiah Lewis
This is coming from the same faggit who thinks pic related is the epitome of grafixxx
Aaron Cruz
You can't be serious m8, the PS4 is locked at 30FPS.
Anthony Evans
Neofaggers always show up to shill for free whenever Sony shits something new. They'll go away when it gets released.
Benjamin Flores
Not with that CPU
Andrew Cruz
Who cares, the PS4 Pro can do 7 Teraframes per second. Thats all that matters.
Joseph Kelly
what is wrong with it?
Wyatt Miller
>the PS4 is locked at 30FPS.
Nicholas Cooper
How hard is it to download a 50 gig Blu-ray image?
Lucas Mitchell
go to digital foundry, watch the whole gta5 video, the ps4 dips to 24 fps after the cinematic ends, now, the person who originally made that picture with a ps4 as fast as an amd 380x , is the one who CLEARLY WASNT BEING SERIOUS
Joshua Miller
That game looks better than Horizon but it's not an epitome.
Look at the shitty lighting.
Isaiah Baker
>console >graphics
Elijah Lee
>That game looks better than Horizon
Aaron Richardson
the point, user, is to make a shitload of money of dumb fucks like the people in this thread
Carson Sanchez
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Luis Sanchez
There are more polygons in the left one
Jack Scott
WELL YOU CAN'T PLAY BLOODBORNE AND... U-UNCHARTED AND UM PERSONA?? ON A PC YOU FUCKING PKEK HAHAHA
GOT EM #4THEPLAYERS
Charles Johnson
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Xavier Richardson
>the ps4 is locked at 30fps for good reason
Connor Roberts
>spend all that time trying to make the Witcher look worse >it still looks better
Michael Price
it looks like a cartoon
Sebastian Young
>bloodborne is the 26th best selling game on ps4 >only 22% of the owners finished the achievements >some of those 22% were PC gamers borrowing the game and console from an idiort gamer
Hunter Lopez
trophies and game collecting tho
Noah Reyes
What the fuck is this post even trying to say? Why is every consolenigger (Sonygger) an ESL faggot?
Jason Reyes
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Andrew Ross
Because that's the only thing your platform is good for, pcuck
Andrew Ross
in the game cube era i would totally be flipped on this whole debate with the exclusives i had 12 - 14 years ago, i wouldnt be as pro PC as i am now stay mad console peasant, this taxi goes over 30 fps
Aiden Roberts
>Tries to claim its 4mp >It's actually Two 2mp images reconstructed to 8mp >Still can't get 60FPS
The deciding factor usually isn't how HIGH the framerate gets, but instead it's about whether or not the game can keep a CONSISTENT framerate.
However, great games like Bloodborne are only great despite their 30 fps cap. Higher is always better, but stability is the key.
Jason Lewis
Bloodborne in 60 fps?
Never ever
Aiden Morgan
Pcucks still enjoying scraps from the master's table. Some small minority of pcucks throws their money at nvidia to polish the scraps console masters give them. Stay mad.
Anthony Lopez
your argument makes literally zero sense, the ps4 is 10% better than a ps3 and the ps4pro is just another 10% - just like southpark said.
Mason Turner
Why do developers lock there games on a console, dont developers want people to buy there game? Dont they want there game to run at a higher frame rate than 24? Microsoft put there exclusives on pc so they did not have to experience this shit. Why does sony have to be a fucking jew?
William Bell
Zoom in and it all falls apart
David Parker
Am I the only one who think's the reconstruction method will use up the CPU slot?
Using two 1080p frames and smashing them together has to take a toll on more than just the graphics chip.
Carter Williams
Sonycucks are retarded. They pay for online after all
Lincoln Price
sony is cucking their own system with a gimmick uspcale chip rather than changing the contract with AMD to avoid jaguar chips
Jonathan Ward
>Why do developers lock there games on a console, dont developers want people to buy there game?
they get hefty handouts from publishers (usually first parties like Sony or MS). they accept either because they can't get funding elsewhere, or because they're literally being given more money up front then they'd get on the short term if they released to more platforms.
>Microsoft put there exclusives on pc so they did not have to experience this shit. microsoft puts their exclusives on windows 10. stop acting like they're targeting a platform or doing you a favor.
Sebastian Price
>ps4 pro uses PC hardware >sony fanboys thinks this means that consoles win >every sony console sold gives %$ to a PC hardware manufacturer
only AMD can truely benefit from this, sony fanboys dont even see how hard they are cucked
Noah Watson
Ok.
Lincoln Campbell
What this means in practice? I want a serious, honest answer, not meme response, if you can do that user.
I am genuinely interested.
Landon Carter
pretty much. people have gotten to run Linux to run on them with full 3d acceleration support. because the amgdpu drivers literally work perfectly with just a bit of fiddling.
current gen PCs are deadlocked consoles. there's nothing more to it.
Julian Howard
So you're a literal nigger/europoor?
Aiden Martin
slow cpu = poor framerate on cpu intensive games (open world for example, wich is pretty much every game now)
Cooper Barnes
>pc is a dead locked console what did he mean by this?
Easton Miller
So the PS4 pro is actually a downgrade from the regular PS4?
Josiah Perez
why are you asking us instead of getting a google answer in 10 seconds? ps4 = 1.7ghz and shitty graphics chip ps4pro = 2ghz and two shitty graphics chips
Adrian Reyes
This is the power of pc gaming.
Henry Perez
Devs have said checkerboard rendering has a GPU cost as well and no dedicated chip so it's not "Free" like the upscaler that's also being included, either so it's limiting some games to 1440P.
Parker Diaz
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Hudson Sullivan
no, its just that is more of a sidegrade than anything else. Its better? yes. But not THAT better to make the difference.
Easton Bell
>the power of real world physics on next gen consoles
Jack Fisher
I know the specs. I am asking you about your opinion. It doesn't mean I agree with you or think you are not stupid just because I don't explicitly state it. I am more interested in your thought pattern at the moment.
>slow cpu = poor framerate on cpu intensive games (open world for example, wich is pretty much every game now) Does this imply that PS4 regular version runs better (more framerates, whatever arbitrary definition fits to you) than PS4 pro, because the upscaling is more intensive on the HW than an actual HW upgrade in the PS4 pro is?
Brody Lee
the PS4 is a fully capable x86_64 machine. one that's actually pretty fucking good for the price.
as it stands, there are no gaming machines that come close in terms of cost to performance ratio. you could get similar perf with a custom build of the same price but it's going to be much larger and won't come with amenities like built-in wireless controller support and shit.
but since you can't even run unsigned binaries on them, they're worthless. because Sony would rather prevent piracy than allow you to use your machine to its full extent. so with your 400$ console that's as powerful and flexible as your PC, you can only play sony-approved games and run sony-approved applications acquired from sony-approved sources.
it's bullshit. I wish valve would get its shit together and sell an AIO console with AMD SoCs rather than the half-assed overpriced shit they're trying to dump on us. then we'd get to benefit from economies of scale, a platform that allows you to do whatever the fuck you want and an OS that's not pure and utter shit.
Julian Ramirez
That looks really fun. What game is that?
Nathan Sanchez
your post is full retard digital foundry on youtube shows that a ps4 struggles against a 400$ computer on any game that isnt programmed by literal retards
James Allen
Forza Horny 3
Michael Jackson
>amenities >built in wireless controller support shit that gaming PC's dont need , ever
Jayden Gomez
>2014+2 >not knowing what a speedrun is
Blake Robinson
its, FOX, USE THE BOOST TO GET THROUGH!! know your correct meme usage
Michael Bailey
I own a PC and PS4, was hoping the PS4 Pro would simply be able to play everything reliably at 1080p 60fps, instead Im going to get extra shiny graphics and MSAA, presumably with the same struggling 25fps framerate.
Spent the money I'd set aside on a GTX 1070 instead.
Thankfully the news of the Pro, 2 of my 3 main irl friends who previously only had PS4 have turned to me for advice on building PC's. Which means I won't have to buy multiplats on PS4 anymore.
Camden Clark
of course you dumb gaymer shit, the current gen consoles are old as fuck. it's going to be much closer with the new PS4/Xbone iterations.
I'm not trying to defend shitty consoles. that's the truth of it. and it's the reason why MS and Sony are adopting new release models.
in any case, you missed the fucking point. I want a small form factor PC that works out of the box and doesn't suck ass for the price. that doesn't exist right now.
why? because you sit at a desk and use M&K? why can't I fucking have both? I have friends, you fucking idiot. I want to play multiplayer hot seat games with them.
Jordan Brown
>playing alone in your room >sitting in your chair while playing, emulating working rather than playing >using devices that cause carpal tunnel syndrome and are better for shitposting on the internet than playing actual games >pc master race
Aaron Adams
This could spell the death of PlayStation if this catches on
Jayden Hall
>He says while sitting alone in his room shitposting Keep it in line nigger.
Wyatt Perez
Me, and I love the ppi.
Benjamin Smith
This just proves my point. Pcuck needs to port even arguments from the master's table.
Easton Anderson
Should have just got xbone for the crossplay
Adam Phillips
The perceived resolution of the PS4 Pro approach is higher than 1440p despite pushing the same number of pixels (2x1080p interlaced)
It is fake 4k, but it is very well implemented
Benjamin Jenkins
You're still getting a resolution boost.
Christopher Jenkins
I dunno what the fuck it is about the PS4, but for some reason everything has shit anistropic filtering.
I really, really want a technical breakdown for retards as to why this is such a common issue on the hardware. I really doubt it's an issue of performance.
Juan Evans
>So what the fuck is the point of the PS4 when you aren't even getting a resolution or framerate boost?
>2 times 1080p >no resolution boost
How are people this stupid? It is at least 2 times the resolution not to mention that the reconstruction further refines detail for a 4k framebuffer.
The difference is night and day. Digital foundry even fuckin said that it was a huge difference.
Logan Cruz
>still don't own a PS4 >still only one game I want on the PS4 >now we find out the PS4 still can't really manage 1080p very well and zero word on framerate which probably means it's all over the place still >mfw
What was the fucking point of this thing? So very very few people own 4k televisions. Very many people own 1080 television but only in last 4 or so years and some of those people have already bought many of their movies in Blu-ray.
Does Sony really expect people to go out on a whim now and buy a PS4 4k Blu-Ray playback and ON TOP OF THAT re-purchase new enhanced 4k versions of the same Blu-Rays on top of not even getting that much better performance in games?
Really?
Angel Hill
Reminder that consoles are getting more of the downsides of PC every day and none of the upsides, along with other bullshit like paying for online.
Not long now lads
Luis Bailey
Sony's grand mistake in my opinion was the pay to play bullshit.
They'd still have the edge on Microsoft and also being a cheap-ass piece of hardware to play games on for lazy people but still really competitive due to not having to pay to play online with PC as well.
Instead they shot themselves in the foot and you still have to factor the monthly payment into the console which puts it right up there with a PC in the long run.
Jacob Perez
>ps4 can't handle 1080p Dude the vast vast majority of games are 1080p on PS4. Only very few titles are below that and they are all 3rd party multiplatform titles where they shove their multiplatform rendering tech into the game because they don't have the budget to do thorough optimization.
Eli Torres
I said very well. No word on this thing handling anything at silky smooth 60 fps at 1080. I know the PS4 can barely manage a steady buttery smooth 30 when anything is attempting 1080.
This thing sounds like it's going to try to bump resolution and still get a silky smooth buttery 24.3 """"consistent""""" fps at their butchered "kinda sorta we tried" 4k attempt.
James Jenkins
GWAFIX GWAFIX NOTHING MATTERS BUT MUH GWAFIX!
God you fucks are annoying.
Julian Wright
THIS
it is misleading to say you're PC can run games at 1080p if it can't run them at 60 fps average
Lucas Cox
How dense are you? Just because some popular games didn't reach 1080p60fps doesn't mean that there aren't many games that do.
Nathaniel Carter
Wow that's beautiful
Eli Long
Give me a list of major games on the PS4 running at 1080 with a rock-solid 60 fps. Considering they marketed the PS4 as a major powerhouse in that regard it should be stupidly simple. Please educate me.
Ian Cooper
>major games what does that mean?
Jaxon Richardson
Think about the point you're trying to make before typing out embarrasing shit like that.
Borderlands: The Handsome Collection Borderlands 2 Call of Duty: Advanced warfare Call of Duty: Black ops 3 Call of Duty: Ghosts Child of light Dark Souls 2 Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition Devil May Cry: Definitive Edition Diablo III: Reaper of Souls Dirt Rally Doom Dragon Quest Heroes Dragon Quest Heroes II F1 2015 F1 2016 FIFA 14 FIFA 15 FIFA 16 Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain Metro Redux Mighty No.9 Minecraft Murdered: Soul Suspect NBA 2K 14 Outlast Overwatch Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare Pro Evolution Soccer 15 Pro Evolution Soccer 16 Pro Evolution Soccer 17 Project cars Rainbow 6 Siege Resident Evil : Revelations 2 Shadow Warrior Skylanders: Swap Force Sniper Elite 3 Street Fighter 5 The Talos Principle The Vanishing of Ethan Carter The Witness Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition Tranformers Devastation Trials fusion Trine 2 Trine 3: Artifacts of Power Warframe Wolfenstein: The New Order Wolfenstein: The Old Blood WWE 2K15 Binding of Isaac: Rebirth Inside Rogue Legacy Spelunky Dead Rising : Remaster God of War III Remastered Gravity Rush : Remastered Journey Resident Evil 6 Resident Evil 5 Resident Evil 4 The Last of Us: Remastered (Can choose 30fps or 60 fps) Uncharted : The Nathan Drake Collection Valkyria Chronicles Remastered Primal carnage:Extinction Resogun Senran Kagura Estival Versus Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness Sword art online lost song Tearaway Unfolded The Witch and the Hundred Knight: Revival Edition MLB 14: The Show Blacklight: Retribution FlOw Flower Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator King of Fighters 14
Those were the ones i could find. Then there are games that are pretty much mostly 1080p but rock solid 60fps like Doom but i don't know if it counts in your book even if the difference between native and slight variable res is indistinguishable.
John Green
old outdated list.
Jeremiah Davis
>2016 >Still giving a fuck about Digital Foundry
kill yourselves
Michael Cook
That's because there are no upsides to PC gaming
>Not long now
I remember people saying that last generation
Juan Green
But PC has none of the upsides of consoles.
Benjamin Smith
Thank you for going to the time and trouble of that list but if you'll acutly notice nearly every one of those titles falls into less that an handful of categories.
A. Remakes from PS3 and older. Already running on a toaster. Add some effects. Done.
B. Indie titles that could run on a toaster laptop. Not that difficult.
C. DOOM and Wolfenstien New Order. ID make their newer games to run on shit hardware by turning things down instead of adding stupid shit and bloom everywhere.
So, you have one competent developer that actually designs their games around 60 fps gameplay at kinda shit settings.
If only all of them did that.
Brayden Richardson
The only advantage a console has anymore is buy-plug-and-turn on nature of the hardware itself. You can't even insert a disc and go right in game anymore.
Kevin Cook
>DOOM and Wolfenstien New Order. ID make their newer games to run on shit hardware by turning things down instead of adding stupid shit and bloom everywhere. Not completely true they are incredibly well optimized and but they run at a variable resolution.
I understand you want the perfect made for 1080p60fps like MGSV but not all developers fucking cares about that at all lol. Kojima productions cared but we all know what happened to them.
Camden Watson
>Being this autistic
Blake Peterson
They really are getting shit now with sony charging for online/being ridiculously under powered. They don't even win on price anymore if you factor in online.
I'll list the obvious upsides
Cheaper once you consider online Doubles up as the best device for internet browsing/work/making content. FAR better graphics More games
Like what, the major ones are all disappearing.
>7 year upgrade cycle >being reasonably well specced >being simple to use (you have to be braindead to mess up a PC now)
Caleb Richardson
>you have to be braindead to mess up a PC no
Iceposeidon shows how PC gaming can be really complex if you are unlucky.
You should check out the destiny tech support for iceposidons $5k dollar rig.
Sebastian Gomez
Upscaling is never decent, ever, games are meant to be played at the screen's native resolution. If I were a console owner, I'd want 1080p with decent framerates, not cheap tricks to make the game almost look passable on 2160p at 24 fps.
Jaxon Rodriguez
Power surge would fuck anything up, also
>spending 5k on a PC
cheap ones can now run most games at 1080p/60fps/ultra
Gabriel Reed
Yeah sucks.
But to be honest some of the newest games that are well optimized on console aren't always that well optimized on PC unless the game isn't that graphics intensive.
I just see a lot of pc ports that aren't what they should be.
James Mitchell
Sonycucks will pay for anything their cuck masters shits out
Ryan Diaz
Upscaling isn't popular on PC, even when it's done well you can still tell, everything looks blurry since it's so close to your face. People are saying they can't tell the difference between 900p and 1080p on a TV, you can on a monitor though. I'd imagine 1080p/1440p upscaled to 2160p would look the same.
Jonathan Gonzalez
Specials?
Robert Barnes
>Sony puts out a new console for better resolution/graphics >"WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT GRAPHICS" Are you brain damaged?
Jason Evans
>Dark Souls 2 That isn't 60fps so no.
Matthew Nguyen
PS4 Pro is a PC you fucking retard.
The moment consoles went x86, they became PCs; literally.
Andrew Wood
on ps4 it is.
Justin Myers
True. Just a really shitty locked down system that you have to pay money to pay money to use the internet on it.