What would they need to do to win you back?

Pokemon main games on NX

Release a normal console with no bullshit.

What good shit? The Wii U is suffering from a software drought worse than the Wii and the 3DS isn't doing much better. They have nothing to sell but plastic toys and phone games.

A good console, with up to date graphics and good performance. It can be the worst in the market, but it should be good enough to make the current game not look like shit.

Good quality games, with variety. I like the usual polished nintendo game, but it's all they have.

Third party support, of course.

NO MORE FUCKING AMIIBO. And give us more game on the main console, stop focusing so much on the 3DS.

I'd have to agree. Also have to get away from those tired ass titles. Zelda, Mario, Animal Crossing etc... Stop the shitty gimmick nonsense.

Super Mario World HD

>get away from tired ass titles
>stop making games for your most popular franchises

And it's not like yearly releases too, the only reason why they have so many titles is because of their age.

It's clear that they only have the resources to churn out shit for tired titles. If they want to only ever make 2000 Mario games, then that's their choice. They should also expect the consequences of that.

The OP is "What would they need to do to win you back?". New 1st party and less tired shit. Just the reality.

Make their games good again.

That's really it. Enough with the half-baked shit.

You know how they keep taking Wii U games and putting them on the 3DS?

They need to do the opposite process.

one word , porn.

how is something like Splatoon, Tropical Freeze, or 3D World half-baked?

A logo like that

Wow, they have a few exceptions. Thanks for the input.

Go third party.

They haven't been able to do first party well in over a decade. I'd play Pikmin on Playstation, but I'm not shelling out three hundred dollars every two years for shit, gimmicky hardware.

Send LoZ back down the direction it was going with the N64 games. TP does NOT count.

>"everything Nintendo does is half-baked"
>what about these
>"those don't count"

...what direction was that? All 3D zelda's play pretty similar as far as overall direction goes.

"everything" means an overwhelming majority. Three games don't disprove this.

edgy but not gay

I like nintendo. I buy lots of their games, and skip the ones I don't care for, like chibi robo and triforce heroes. As long as they keep up the quality, and add an ethernet port, ill be happy.

They had a good run from 85-95. Everything after that is a slow motion train wreck. Winning me back would take a monumental rebirth. But who are we kidding, it's a Japanese company -- nothing is going to change.

>"everything Nintendo does is half-baked"
If you go back to my post you will notice that I didn't say that.

Glad we could have this talk, user.

then please, do go on. And explain why they are half-baked.

>I DONT KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD EVERYTHING
>IM A FUCKING RETARD

Good games on a non-retarded platform.

they cant

Exactly. They haven't done anything new since 2000. It's all recycled gameplay with "MOTION CONTROLS!" and "3D GRAPHICS!!" OOH GAH!

I just want the next Zelda game. Then I don't know. I'll just have to wait and see if they phone in more entries to damage their series.

>I don't think this system has any good games
>y-yeah but there's o-one good one

This.

Exsctly

I hate to admit it, after all this time I'd just rather see this. But not on another fucking low power console, I'd rather see what Nintendo, who is great at milking low power hardware, can do with actual good hardware.

Being realistic tho and addressing OP's question, dropping casuals as their sole and ONLY focus, never having a gimmick as the main focus again. Having competitive hardware as well.

They also need to fucking change how they treat 3rd parties, it's not the fucking 80's and 90's anymore Nintendo, you cannot get away with underpowering your hardware, having unfair standards (THAT YOU YOURSELF DONT MATCH ANYMORE), and having unfair licensing fees. It's time for YOU to suck THEIR dick this time, because you NEED 3rd parties.

For the fucking drones incoming who set their faggot brainwashing to mindless defense mode, 3rd parties doesn't automatically mean rehashed shit like COD and such. There are good quality 3rd party titles that the nintendo fanbase does NOT GET simply because of the retarded limitations Nintendo has around it. Publishers and dev studios are sick of Nintendo's shit. It's Nintendo's time to change, NOT the other way around.

>not count the N64

The N64 goaty games, it even had one of the best games of all time. It still my favorite console to date

>Kill the fucking the system that's been going very well for them
Great idea. You should be head of marketing dude.

I'd really just like them to stop wasting time making sequels to old IPs if they're not even going to bother to make them decent.

At least the new DK games are good.

>Send Zelda back down in this direction!
>"But they never stopped going that direction"
>Exactly! It's bad!!

>I'd rather see what Nintendo, who is great at milking low power hardware, can do with actual good hardware.
This is a great way to make their games shitty. look up george lucas syndrome.
The Wii U is as powerful as the PS4, and look what happened.

user, you've posted in this thread multiple times but you don't seem to have actually read the OP.
>What would they need to do to win you back?
Notice how this does not say "What would they need to do to be successful?"

>The Wii U is as powerful as the PS4
uh

3DS is the main console.

>The Wii U is as powerful as the PS4
I don't think that's right.

>TP does NOT count.
It was pretty much the same thing as OoT.

It really is that simple.

The console is just a box I buy to get to the games. If the games suck, why bother? The Wii U only has Mario Kart, as far as I'm concerned. I'm not buying a console for one game. The NX better not repeat the pattern.

>The Wii U is as powerful as the PS4

You got brain problems son?

>to win you back?
I don't have loyalty to a company. Make a product I want to buy and I'll buy it.

>user, you've posted in this thread multiple times
That was my first post pal.

But you're saying, that in order to bring you back they'd have to kill their biggest success this gen?

It would require

1. Wario or kirby 3d platformer. Please make it stop motiony like rainbow curse.

2. A super duper grindy minecrafty sandbox series NOT ASSOCIATED with minecraft.

3. Bowser's own game. NOT MARIO.

4. Daisy is puerto rican, and she is canonically Luigi's girlfriend.

5. Finally, the perpetually demanded stealth x dating simulator Waluigi Sneak 'N Love.

And there you have it.

Nothing, they have Fatal Frame so they have me by the balls. I can't help it, I love spooky ghost fun times.

nothing

Huber?

>Bowser's own game. NOT MARIO.

That's something I actually I would like

>Daisy is puerto rican, and she is canonically Luigi's girlfriend.

Don't push your shitty fetishes over Nintendo characters

>wii u is as powerful as the ps4

not the same guy, but the 3DS turns 6 next year and it's the lowest sales-wise of any Nintendo portable. It's very weak hardware-wise and an update around now would be a great way to get people on another handheld, which means profit for Nintendo and stronger portable titles, perhaps even integration with phone apps that shareholders are pressuring so much.

I think I speak for the majority of non-retarded people on Cred Forums when I say they can't win me back. I'm not going to buy their product on the hopes that it will be good. I'm a functioning human with thought and pattern recognition, and Nintendo has a pattern of putting out shit products with limited software, you're not a moron, are you, OP?

>Metroid Prime 4
pls

Nintendo home consoles have been shit since N64. If what they say is true about it being a handheld and home device wrapped in one it's the only way ill be buying it. Unlike the nintendo drones on this board, the 3rd party support for thier handheld games are what get me to buy them besides the odd pokemon and FE game here and there. Never cared cor mario, and they gave up working on the other franchises they own besides zelda

I love the three-part PC/Console hybrid 'leak' concept. Especially if they also make overtures of increased openness on the OS/software side, in addition to the hardware being made for upgrading.

im in your boat op. But i think what he means is to let the "NX" come out. And then wait and see what would be worth buying it.

Nobody in their right mind would buy a NX on launch. Right?

Good ideas from Nintendo

>Letting Tanabe fuck up chibi robo, paper mario, and metroid

>Letting tanabe do anything

>Trying to convince you on how you're wrong for disliking a shitty game

>failing to live to up to promises involving the virtual console

>lets put gba games on the wii u and snes games on the NEW 3ds. you know, that new version with the shit name and one fucking exclusive

>keep my son mario inside, he doesnt need to experience new things in this world

>AMIIBO

>Nintendo Treehouse full of actual idiots and not up-to-date memers

>Some dumbass (thankfully) managed to fuck up the Color Splash pre-order

If I wasn't a Nintendo fan, I would be laughing at this company for their weird fucking choices.

Just make a modern goddamn console that can run multiplats fine (which they haven't done in like two fucking decades so I'm not holding my breath) with no stupid gimmicks. Make good, non-stripped down, fully fleshed-out games of their IPs they haven't ran into the ground (Star Fox, Advance Wars etc.)

Oh, and a full-sized fucking Pokemon game on console, I want to explore a full-size version of the Pokemon world already with full-size Pokemon to scale. Get Sakurai on that shit.

>up to date graphics
A GTX1070 based console?

>"You'll never see another dollar of my TANF money, Nintendo"

>Nintendo fails miserably
>MH makes it way back to consoles worth a fuck
>Nintendo dies

Once they lose monster hunter they lose their only fanbase calling it.

Proper Metroid sequel both 2d and Prime style. That is, tons of exploration on alien worlds with great music atmosphere and bosses.

Proper third party support so their systems don't go through six month droughts of nothing worthwhile.

No major gimmicks that make a controller cost 100+ dollars to replace.

A Diablo styled rpg with a loot system where you can play as a shit ton of Nintendo characters from their franchises.

Ridley on the Smash roster. If Bayonetta and Villager can get back to the stage for free from anywhere, Ridley having a jump like Charizard would not be game breaking.

>It's very weak hardware-wise and an update around now would be a great way to get people on another handheld
That was the point of the New 3DS.

Besides, I'm talking this gen. And apparently the NX is supposed to bridge the gap, so we'll see.

AAA, full 3D, exploration based Kirby platformer that brings Pop Star to life and takes cues from Shimomura's atmosphere and art direction.
Bonus points for Rick, Coo, and Kine, in this modern day they'd be a lot more useful in a 3D space

To be fair a majority of the games coming out on 3ds this year are 3rd party and its highly likely the last few 1st party games were in developement since before they merged the handheld and home console teams.

2016
>Pokemon thats been in developement since xy came out in 2013 and they don't release games on consoles with a fresh small install base anyway bw2 for example
>Mario party again if its releasing now its been in development for a while

2017
> two ports of wii u games that took hardly any work considering how soon they're coming out after initial release
> mario sports and pikmin, again likely been in the works for a while and are most likely the last dribs and drabs of 1st party support

They'd be stupid to throw all their current ideas and investment in the trash just to support a totally unproven entity, being the nx

F-Zero NX made by the guys who made Fast Racing Neo.

I really want the next luigi's mansion to have daisy in it, and she keeps unintentionally sabotaging luigis with her savage screech that can wake the dead.

this. If they ceased 3ds games sooner and put games like MH etc onto the wii u they wii u wouldn't have fucking died. It died because they chose to ignore it no other reason.

Well for the NX

>console pokemon rpg
>proper 3d mario game
>full, next gen versions of other mascots such as DK, Kirby, and Yoshi, no more kiddie 2d shit
>3d Metroid
>at least one zelda game per gen, 2 if one is released at launch
>stop putting out games a downs syndrome child can easily beat, with no option for a higher difficulty level

Pokemon rpg is a DEALBREAKER for me buying the nx. If it's not confirmed in a year I'm done.

MH WAS on the WiiU.
And it's not like it was up to Nintendo anyway.

That game was absolutely terrible. Shiny, but terrible playing.

Release their games on Steam (or just PC on their own software, whatever).

I'd spend all my money in seconds and I haven't even bought anything Nintendo related in at least 7 years.

not going to lie, they already did with BotW. That said, I would be incredibly disappointed if the NX cannot play it at close to what the original screeshots/footage looked like.

Remastering a bunch of old classics into HD for the 3ds would be amazing. I would love to play some wave race or 1080 on the 3ds. Shit for that matter I would love yoshi's story, f-zero x, and third party titles like goldeneye, banjo, perfect dark, dk64 and many many more

>HD
>3DS

Bring back what Cred Forums calls gimmicks in game instead of making the entire console one. Old Nintendo games had so many cool puzzles, easter eggs, mini-games, and things like that in them. The reason I stopped liking Nintendo was because I started just running through the games to complete. Nothing is a good game on it's own anymore, it needs to be fucked with or have some dumb feature shoved in like the tablet in Pikmin 3.

The fact we got this instead of a Super Sunshine or Galaxy makes me not look forward to playing a Mario game next generation which should be concerning to them. This game, along with most other WiiU titles can be described as cheap forgettable fun with a friend who agreed to play your WiiU. Oh well, I guess thats what theyre going for now.

Good games.

1) Stop with gimmicky shit. I don't need an ipad controller and I sure as hell don't want motion controls
2) Pour some actual resources into beloved franchises like F-Zero, Star Fox, and Metroid
3) Bring online multiplayer into this fucking century

Better yet, give up on hardware and just focus on software development. Playing a Mario, Donkey Kong, or Zelda game optimized for vastly superior hardware compared to Nintendo's would be like communing with God.

>Nothing is a good game on it's own anymore, it needs to be fucked with or have some dumb feature shoved in like the tablet in Pikmin 3.
You don't have to use the gamepad at all in Pikmin 3. What's the issue?

>The fact we got this instead of a Super Sunshine or Galaxy makes me not look forward to playing a Mario game next generation
3D World haters always make me chuckle. You do realize that the Mario team just does whatever the fuck they want, right? They don't follow trends, they just find a formula they like and do the best job they can with the time and budget allotted. No 3D Mario plays even remotely similar to each other (besides Galaxy 1 and 2, and even those have differences). Just because you're not collecting stars doesn't mean it's not good.

>Implying people wanted to play the same game twice and also have swimming

yea nah.

get rid of the cancer known as the treehouse or make sure they stop censoring games

instead of having a braindead retarded gimmick like motion controls or a tablet controller, have the gimmick be decent hardware and good games just like the snes

>You do realize that the Mario team just does whatever the fuck they want, right?

Do you work at Nintendo?

Nobody likes 3D World because is a step back in the formula. It worked as a handheld title, but not as a star game in their main console.

They have yet to make a platformer to rival their own Yoshi's Island.
Other companies make Metroid games for them because they can't be bothered.
Early Zelda fans moved on when Demon's Souls came out.
Sega made the best F-Zero. I'm gonna count that as subtle revenge.
Intelligent Systems is making waifu trash.

Just fuck my franchises up, senpai.

Well, like I said, that was up to Capcom, not Nintendo.

You're forced to turn on the gamepad and use it for certain things in game. Also I never said it wasn't good for what it was but it was something we didn't need. 'Zelda U' never happened and thats what a lot of people got the console for. It needed a good 1st party single player focused game because it didnt have enough.

>All these people saying they just want a regular console with decent specs.

How long are people going to keep doing this?

What was the last Nintendo platform that didn't really try something new? Super Nintendo? Gameboy Advance? Nintendo is always going to try to innovate, for better or worse. That's just there style.

>We want new entries in your beloved franchises Nintendo
>FUCKING REHASHES. SELLING MY [current Nintendo console]

>Backwards compatibility is a must if I'm going to buy a new console from them
>Oh wow thanks for a large amount of what people would call Nintendo classics on VC when I already have them on my emulator and [previous generation] had shit games so who cares about BC

>Fucking modern Nintendo is shit
>Hey guys just hacked my 3DS and put 50+ games on it any progress on hacking the Wii U but LOL WII U HAS SHIT LIBRARY AMIRITE

Nintendo isn't the problem. Everyone else is the problem. but srsly tho...

I waited like 20 years for a true Starfox sequel, and what I got was a fucking joke.

Bring back games that are more than adult to the consoles.

Nintendo consoles are at their best when they have "adult" games that aren't just so because gore or tits.

Not that modern gamers care about gamesor their content anymore. Just look at shit like Haydee. Games dont need gameplay or story or anything like that -- just gore and tits.

Contrarian antisocial behavior. What ever it is, they want the opposite, or for whatever made up reason, you're wrong. They are maintaining an ever cynical outlook on absolutely everything in life. It's also why people hate gamers.

Remove Reggie and replace NoA

Those two things plus a functional online with voice chat is whats necessary to get 3rd party devs back into making games for a Nintendo console. Theres so much they still don't offer and all the kids are on their smart phones. Nobody these days has time for getting together and doing whatever Nintendo expects people to do together in the family room with a Wii U. They either need to make their portable console gimmick work for the NX or they need to suck up and make a SNES 3 with next next gen specs because otherwise their next plan will be god knows.

To be fair he said they've been the same "since 2000", which obviously doesn't include OoT.

Apparently there's something difference in the series post-OoT that he doesn't like.

>do more mature games. Doesn't mean M-rated
>ditch all the gimmicks

There Nintendo is fixed. Nintendo trying to be different and kid friendly all the time is killing them.

They need to stop ruining their franchises, scout for good third parties that can actually do your IPs justice.

Americans are shit. What did you expect?

Melee remastered (no bullshit "bugfixs" or balance changes), Jet Set Radio 3, S-sonic adventure 3

Nothing. I only really play games on 3DS regardless, my PC is for making games.

Why would those people buy a Nintendo console if they already have a Xbox or PS4? Catering to the same crowd just means an Xbox or PS4 with Nintendo games. By differing themselves it has a lot more sales potential.

I'll never understand this meme of pretending Souls is anything like Zelda at all.

>Play smash 4 everyday
>Beat victory road again on mario 3D road because why the fuck not

How about release some more fucking games that aren't sticker star saga sequels. Fuck me give me some 3D platformers that aren't floaty and don't control like shit.

Thats it. Company loyalty is retarded anyway.

Actually the preorder fuck up convinced me to buy the game

Gamecube.

Literally the best console of that generation.

They still have me rooting for them. But not much would make me like them more, really.
-Make a console that's powerful enough to compete
-A pretty-well regular-shaped controller as the main controller. The Pro Controller would do, really
-If they become third-party, only become so for PC

Also one of Nintendo's worst selling systems.

It had some stiff competition -- kinda like the PS3 vs the 360.

Actually almost the same situation -- trying to compete with something with pre-existing market penetration and developer support. It might have been "better", but the PS2 was older and more established, so the PS2 won the battle it already won by default a year or two prior.

The air coming down from death mountain makes people ill, and the soldiers of hyrule are slowly losing their minds. The denizens of the dark world reveal the twisted nature of their souls. A Link to the Past is pretty much a Souls game. The exploration, the bosses, the depressing NPCs.

youtube.com/watch?v=zi0APizJuRU

>A Link to the Past is pretty much a Souls game
Kill all americans.

>It had some stiff competition

Exactly, which is why Nintendo doesn't make systems like that anymore.

Why throw yourself in the console arms race when Microsoft and Sony are already at eacho others throats? The Wii had Nintendo trying something different instead of trying to compete with 360 and PS3 and it was one of their most successful systems ever.

It just doesn't make sense for Nintendo as a company to try to make a regular console, because there are already two of those.

this

Once they have a powerful console they can easily implement technology they already have thats well liked such as the wii remote and amiibos.

>stop with the fucking gimmicks, just give me a regular controller to play regular-ass games with. Unless it's a genuine improvement to VR fuck off.

>more than 6 great games in it's lifetime. Quit letting Miyamoto stick his hand in every cookie jar, and hire some fresh blood before "muh japanese honor" leads to more & more bullshit until the gooks go extinct.

>get some third-party support. Have some in-house quality control so things don't go too south. Make the Nintendo seal mean something again.

>revive untouched IPs. Goddamnit I just wanna take the Blue Falcon for a spin again. Racing games aren't that hard to make, what the fuck?

>try and branch out, but keep it tasteful. I liked Zelda Picross and Pokemon Go. Hell, I liked Miitomo while it was still alive. But if they make a candy crush clone for every mario character I'm gonna drop them.

>make games harder. Nintendo needs to learn the kids of yesterday are running into money, and cater to the American/European adult category. But with games like Dark Souls and Nioh, Nintendo needs to step the fuck up.

Have you not played the game? The smith's brother, the fate of the blind thief, the flute boy, Link's uncle. The whole premise of the game up until the very end is that Ganon won and everything is terrible. You're hunted down by the authorities for just poking around in Kakariko. It's dark.

They're pretty okay. I just hope the NX skips region locking. These importing fees are fucking gross.

>"i-its dark"
>that means it's a souls game

I know you're not even trolling.

Kill all americans.

100% of american citizens must die before things on this planet can ever be enjoyable ever again.

How are the gameplay and thematic elements not similar?

You still trying to use that old bait? Clearly no one's biting. Instead of trying harder, try a different approach.

Themewise, yeah. But there is no Zelda game akin to Dark Souls gameplay-wise.

>an action-rpg isn't like an action-rpg
Not following.

>Zelda
>action RPG
Only Zelda II applies.

What's the difference between collecting heart pieces and grinding souls to spend on vitality. It's just semantics.

>an easy game where you discover & use items along with your sword isn't like a hard game where you need to dodge attacks & find openings with a weapon of your choice

Also, a lot of Zelda tools have use outside of the boss fight (mainly in the dungeon they're in). Dark Souls is more akin to a good 3D Castlevania

>dodge attacks & find openings

Heart pieces are limited and usually hidden, you can't kill the same enemy over and over to get them, nor you can use them for anything else. By your logic even Metroid is a RPG.

Dark Souls is a lot more punishing than any Zelda game, save maybe the Skyward Sword trials cave thing. A majority of players can beat Zelda bosses in a handful of tries, even with little preparation.

>literally one boss spanning a series around 25 years old

The difficulty isn't the point. The point is the formula, the incentives. There's a reason people who played Zelda 1 and 3 correlate the two franchises. Because the feeling they got exploring those Zelda games was never again replicated by Nintendo. Lo and behold the experience resurfaced under another name. And it was intimately familiar.

>The point is the formula, the incentives.
In Souls games, the incentive is to defeat a set of bosses of increasing difficulty, using the same fundamental set of moves.

In Zelda, the incentive is to get gimmicky dungeon items for solving puzzles, that are then used on bosses in puzzle-like ways.

It's completely different.

Except for the earliest zelda games, you're meant to use the Dungeon Item to defeat the boss, or at least make it easier. In DS, you don't have that same kind of item progression. There's weapon progression, but it's just in amounts of damage, not types of moves.

FFS, there's an entire boss in Twilight Princess dedicated to a fantasy version of a skateboard crossed with a beyblade. Where's that in Dark Souls?

fucking kill all americans

I agree, but only at the core. Zelda games incentivize exploration with loot and cool things to collect, whereas Dark Souls punishes unprepared players. Like I said at , Zelda's items have other uses besides just killing bosses.

>There's weapon progression, but it's just in amounts of damage, not types of moves.
That's wrong though. The various weapons have different movesets, and that's not even getting into magic or limited use items. So what if one of the bosses is more easily tackled with the fire rod. Same can be said of slinging soul arrows at the Tower Knight.

>That's wrong though
You're wrong and you are going to die for it one day.

>so what if one of the bosses is more easily tackled with the fire rod

More like "so what if one of the bosses are only vulnerable when you use the fire rod, then ya gotta hit them in their glowy eye thing"

>you are going to die
Assuming I don't have a fairy bottle.

You don't have to tackle bosses in a specific way in DS though, even bosses like the Storm King can be killed by basic attacks if you're good enough.

is it just my end or is nintendo's netcode pretty bad

This is a nitpicky point. People take the path of least resistance. If a boss is weak to lightning, they're gonna chuck lightning. Not everybody's out to make a one hour long fist fight Youtube boss video with the Benny Hill theme playing.

The difference is that bosses in Zelda games typically literally cannot be killed except with the lightning thing and will not even respond to other sorts of strikes.

Put HAL in charge of making the next Smash Bros

Wii sports 3

>3D DK game
>Mario game similar to Devil May Cry with RPG elements and platforming
>NX Pokemon MMO
>Make Smash Bros an actual fighting game (partner with Capcom and/or SNK)
>StarTropics 3
>Takamaru game similar to Okami
I could go on and on.

>Mario game similar to Devil May Cry
You're gonna have to explain this.

>melee HD
>a NX that blow everyone mind
>3rd party support that doesnt suck
>more than famlily friendly looking games
or just work with steam

Go third party. Drop game price down to $10 in a year after release. Or they can go die and I won't care.

>all these go third party suggestions

So you already like their games? But won't buy them because you're too poor for another console or what?

I like the 1-2 good games they put out per year but I don't want to shell out an extra 300$ for the privilege

i would fucking hate it if they went third party but this is the best explanation as to why people want it

Or they shoehorn the gimmicks of their underpowered hardware onto every single fucking game they put out.

a 60fps near identical remake of the original Snes Starfox with those basic polygons after that Star Fox Zero shit they pulled.

The mindset they were in at SNES JRPG times. I just want to see more Japanese games, the eshop has been flooded with indie garbage.
More stuff like Bayonetta 2, X and Mirage Sessions. You don't have to like those games, just that mindset that had them get those games made.

The virtual console has always been disgusting. I know there's licensing issues, but I always thought it was going to be like a virtual museum. There's still no Yoshi's Island. Just things like that.

New IPs. I'm desperate for new IPs. I went from obsessively playing Nintendo games last year, to just feeling like I'm stuck in a loop with no hope of change as the quality gets worse.

I'm skeptical about the NX. I hope it's amazing, I'd put the money in for one of those things day 1 if it showed promise, but I don't trust them anymore.

So the gimmicks make them bad games, so why do you want to play them?

>Pokemon thats been in developement since xy came out in 2013
Sun/Moon has been in development for less than two years. They stared developing it only after ORAS came out. Confirmed by the lead director.

>like the games but find consoles obselete and is even more tired of nintendo underpowered and gimmicky consoles

Wii U was just them trying to bit off the success of the DS and you know it. The wii was something new and made money.

breath of the wild

Twilight Princess for GC vs Wii for example. Serviceable game under the stupid motion controls.

Not a copy of course but something with combat gameplay and fast mobility, take the fighting of God Hand, the mobility and displacement of DMC, add some good ol' Mario 3D platforming and a little bit of Banjo/DK64 exploration and collecting.
>You travel through varios worlds in the Nintendo universe (Zelda/DK/Pokemon/Fire Emblem)
>Each world has it's own story and mini-games(kind of like Kingdom Hearts)
>Each world has unlockables of all kinds like Link's Master Sword, DK's coconut gun, Pikachu as a summon or Falchion/Ragnell
It could be pretty good.
>inb4: violence and Nintendo
If fucking Disney and Mickey Mouse can do a little mild animated violence then so can Nintendo and Mario.

The problem is Nintendo isn't even an option anymore. If you're a 12 year old you won't get a Nintendo because it doesnt play all the Sony and Xbox games. This is thinking from their perspective and they're a lot of the sales. Lucky for me I own a good computer that can run games but I'm not them.

For me they legitimately just need to make Paper Mario go back to it's roots, if they did that I'd buy 40 NX's & copies of the game.

Go third party and sell their games on Steam.

I want a new Strikers game.

I mean, Nintendo is a shell of their former selves. Have been for decades. But they're also the lesser of 3 evils when it comes to consoles. If you like real video games, there really isn't any other option.

Only time they lost me was with the N64.
Shit was garbage.

The NX had to be a friggen powerfl console .... more powerful than the PS4 and nearly as powerful als the MS Scorpio. If the Price is comparable everything is alright.
If it's a hybride which consists of a handheld and a console part the console part should be nearly as powerful as the scorpio with a similar pricepoint.
With this they should try to lure in all the 3rd partys there are, they need as many games as possible, I want them all, the high profile "AAA"-games, the mid tier "AA" and "A" games, the low cost/risk "budget" games, the "indie" games and the fringe and insane "niche" games. I want as much to choose from as possible because I play games from all genres and categorys and I really don't want more than 1 console next to my PC .....

>What would they need to do to win you back?

A simple machine with decent enough 2d/3d capabilities, that is original hardware and not second rate PC parts. With lots of support from japanese 3rd parties like the super famicom. No gimmicky shit. Will never happen.

me too!!! strikers 1945 IV !!

A new 2-D metroid game.

Release games on PC. I'm never gonna bother with consoles again
Alternatively a new Xenogame, monolith is the only studio worth a shit

I'm not sure at this point.
For sure they would need to either fire everyone in Treehouse and start fresh or outsource their localizations. Even better would be to disband NoA all together and let NoE take over their operations.
If I am really being honest though I would probably forget all my grievances for a good Paper Mario game or remasters of 64 and TTYD

>Buy the rights to Timesplitters
>Buy the Dambusters Studio from Deep Silver
>Recruit all former Free Radical Design members
>Resume production on Timesplitters 4.

I'd buy that and whatever system they would want me to buy in an instant.

Tell their fans people are allowed to not like their games

>got a Wii U 2 years ago
>got a PS4 last christmas
>bought more games for the PS4 since I got it than I've bought for the Wii U since I got that
There's the problem.

>release a console with solid hardware, enough waggle touchscreens and other stupid gimmicks
>court third-parties with decent hardware, goes with above stop making stupid gimmicks they have to try to shoehorn in
>stop going after fanprojects that don't impact your games
>stop creating shitty spinoffs like that 3DS Metroid game no one asked for
>stop trying to "innovate" every single sequel with stupid gimmicks, just give us solid Zelda adventuring, solid Metroid exploration, solid Mario platforming, solid Star Fox space shooting with good controls, etc. all of these games now are focused more on making stupid gimmicks rather than making good, fun games

Iwata dying was the best thing that could happen to Nintendo tbqh. he got lucky with the Wii and was running Nintendo into the ground. the company would not have lasted another hardware cycle with him as the CEO.

>find opening
>balls are vulnerable all the time
>no attacks, just moves and hits you when you touch it
You didn't think your bait through

release video games

>muh childhood
Go back to plebbit.

>a hard game where you need to dodge attacks & find openings with a weapon of your choice

Have you played Zelda 1, dude? It's a lot like that, 'cept you only get a sword.

Playing Zelda 1 after Dark Souls is a pretty baller experience.

They are Neoshitendo now. There is nothing in the world they could do to win me back.
They changed so much for the worse that there is no going back.
Their entire company philosophy is as rotten as Apple's.

Not the other user, but you did say they need to stop making half-baked shit. He showed you examples to prove otherwise. Kys.

>star fox zero is ass
>well dumb kids who don't know any better will probably like it
Stop making games for retards

>those rumors oh NX being an Iphone
pottery.

I dunno the general vibe I'm getting is that the past year or so has been a year of wrapping up filler projects and such to tide over until NX.

Now, if Robobot launching on 3DS means we'll get a Return to Dreamland-esque game on NX, great. If Pikmin 3DS means we'll get Pikmin 4 on NX, great. If FedForce on 3DS means we'll be getting Metroid Prime 4 on NX, great.

I'm willing to put up with a year of filler first party releases if it means that we'll be getting substantial installments on the currently in development console.

I never understood this.
Why the fuck would they release a sequel of an n64 game and then claim that kids these days will enjoy it when the demographic has changed entirely?
It just shows how out of fucking touch they really are
I would have been just fine with a standard remake with the controls for the wii-u tablet in mind. Trying to play star fox 64 on a 3ds is fucking awful.

I'll bite. RIP F-Zero. Just because Paper Mario is shit doesn't mean it's dead. Banjo-Kazooie was owned by Rare, Nintendo only published it. They are making a new Mario for NX. Just because Metroid is shit doesn't mean it;s dead. RIP Pioltwings. RIP Waverace. The Yoshi series isn't dead. RIP Wars. Why split up Metroid into two franchises? Just because Star Fox is shit doesn't mean it's dead. RIP 1080. RIP Wario Land. Chibi-Robo isn't dead.

This

I really hope the NX kills off both 3DS and Wii U so it can be a single concentrated console

This

E3 is dead. Very likely that is year was the last.

All Europeans too, the world needs only Japanese, Australians and Canadians

They already won me back with the 3DS and the Wii U.

>something that will never happen
>"If it's not confirmed in a year I'm done"

Kek, cya fag

The only games I know that make good use of the Wii motion controls are: Red Steel 2, Skyward Sword and Wii Sports.

For 3DS the only games I really enjoyed playing in 3D were Super Mario 3D Land, and Zelda A Link Between Worlds.

For most other games I've played, 3D is a gimmick. However, Motion controls on 3D when aiming in 1st person (such as the Zelda remakes) are IMO superb.

Control stick < Motion control < Mouse

Aww man. It was like Christmas in June.

>RIP Pioltwings
There was a new Pilotwings on 3DS.

>3D world haters always make me chuckle

Their main games are still great. It's just their spin-offs that have gone to shit. Games like Mario Tennis and Mario Party used to be great. Not anymore.

Personally?

>Abandon amiibo support for the NX
>Release their older games in a fashion similar to what sega did
>Drop the fucking prices for their old games
Doesn't really matter since so much shit is emulatable, but still
>Stray away from gimmicks and focus on making short replayable, entertaining games again

You know shit like super metroid, brandish, aria of sorrow, ristar, custom robo, kirby superstar, the act raiser series (terranigma, brain lord, act raiser), phalanx, the old megaman games, shadowrun, summon knight:swordcraft story, shining force.... I could go on. There's so much potential in just going back to making games like that. Especially with a cartridge system. They'd tap into the phone market they so desperately want easily, and maybe some of their older audience too.

I know a ton of people complain about games being short or whatever, but if there's enough content or reasons to replay it? It's not really an issue.
It'll never happen.

Never lost me. Love my WiiU, getting BoTW on it.

Ill wait out nx to see what games come for it. A hacked wii u+ hacked 3ds basically lets me play every nintendo game ever at this point.

*ahem* 2011 *ahem*

>I-it might be shit b-but it's NOT dead!!!: The Post
Nintendo might as well kill itself at this point.

Release wario world 2

So what? The series isn't dead if it got a new game on a current system.

learn to read, retard. it clearly says "Franchises RUINED, ABANDONED or killed by Neoshitendo"

w101 is great. shame about the sales.

Make good games again. Innovate in the right places, like how Super Mario Sunshine and Galaxy did, but don't innovate with things that don't need it, like Metroid. Acquire Platinum and Treasure, and have them make badass action games forever. Stop ruining Pikmin, stop ruining Metroid, stop ruining Paper Mario. Don't be afraid to rehash if it's something incredibly good. Don't be afraid of spritework. Stop forcing polygons/3D rendering into everything.

New and old IPs. Don't limit yourselves, second parties, or third parties in their games' characters, settings, or genres. Do off the wall shit. Get Sega to release Dynamite Headdy or get Squeenix to release Geno and make a platformer or action RPG or something totally unexpected using those properties.

Appreciate fan projects. Acquire and bring back Another Metroid 2 Remake or other destroyed fan projects. I'd pay a good 15-20 bucks for AM2R or something with equivalent quality.

Stop being afraid of sex. Stop being afraid of violence. Stop altering the content of games for any reason. Just stop being scummy douchebags and start celebrating video games and fun. Don't force yourselves to make everything accessible, just make QUALITY PRODUCTS for EVERYONE. Stop firing your employees for having personal lives and unorthodox feelings. Stop taking "humorous" liberties with your localization scripts. Strike a balance between being true to the original script and being coherent to another audience.

It's not like they ever lost me, but if they need to stop shooting themselves in the foot. I really don't see what's keeping them from releasing games like Metroid and FZero as budget titles. Look at Shadow Complex and Fast Racing Neo, they were sold for $15 dollars and both very solid games. I'm not saying they should be this way forever, but I don't see why Nintendo couldn't release a bite sized Metroid or F-Zero title that at least has the core gameplay intact. Also bring back some characters from way back when like Mach Rider or that one samurai that became an assist trophy. Surely they can be brought back and have games people would want to play.

I like you. Your ideas are good.

I'm not an American, Nintendo never "won" me.

>shining force etc.

>Nintendo should go back to making Sega, Konami and Enix games!

Guys, I've found the literal retard.

But they never ruined Pikmin
>inb4 that spinoff will ruin an entire series!

>don't fire that literal pedo in your child-friendly company

????
????

hi GG

Pedophiles ARE child-friendly, though.

I can't wait for the Xbox to die.

For all thats said about Nintendo, its the dudebroshooter that destroyed vidya.

Also shit like this -Going forward, as we aim to become the world’s number one game developer, we feel that while it is of course necessary to advance and expand upon existing content, it is also necessary to take on new challenges. We cannot ignore genres such as shooting and strategy games with massive numbers of players when considering Consumer, Online and eSports market growth potential. We will make use of our strengths and keep a close watch on market trends while moving forward with the kind of game creation only possible at Capcom. The new challenges have only just begun.
Is both positive and negative. Companies are starting to recognise where they need to diversify.

>inb4 muhshooters

>outsource their localizations
Because that has worked out so well so far.

I think nothing Nintendo can do at this point can win me back. Their aversion to story telling, and desire to attract a wider audience has killed my interest in almost every franchise, to the point where only the prospect of new IP is remotely interesting.

I might still buy their handhelds for the remaining few exclusives, but not if they have a shitty first gen model again.

>Their aversion to story telling

I thank God every day for it, desu. Stories should be kept to a minimum in most genres anyway.

>I can't wait for the Xbox to die.

This. At this point, Sony can fuck off too. I wished there was another real gaming company around, you know like old Sega.

Turn back into 1985 - 2005 Nintendo and stop fucking around with retarded gimmicks. I want a real controller and consistently good games from them again.

I wouldnt say Kill the 3DS

But i do agree that the NX being a hybrid needs to take full resource and eventually replace the 3DS

But that's not happening anytime soon

especially since Pikmin 3DS and Mario Sports Superstars are coming after NX releases

Nintendo have been toying around with gimmicks for ages. Remember the printer for GBC, the Super Game Boy, the Virtual Boy, the Rumble pak, planned add-ons for the SNES and N64?

>consistantly good games

Depends where your looking

3DS had consistantly good games this year if you ignore Fedforce Even though it was still an okay game

>Fire Treehouse

Except they did a REALLY good job with Color Splash's writing

Just because MUH BOOBIES doesnt mean you have to fire them

>I want a real controller

you never had one since SNES user

They always have a bunch of good games and a bunch of meh games

This isnt new

Your nostaliga is blind you

>2005
Oh yeah the year nobody would shut the fuck up about shitposting Star Fox Assault, Warioware Touched, and Four Swords

Also Mario sunshine was considered garbage

new pokemon game that starts from gen 1 and disregards all the pokemon after gen 1 and is more serious and competitive

true sequel to mario 64

No amiibos/ DLCs
So it's not going to happen

>consistently good games
>Mario Maker
>Xenoblade
>Fire Emblem Fates
>Kirby Robobot
>Rhythm Heaven Megamix
>Pokemon Sun and Moon

Oh no but we need to focus on the bad shit only

>gen1
>no special physical split
>broken types and mechanics
>competitive

user I

If it means anything, Paper Mario Color Splash doesnt use Amiibo at all

>DLC

Nintendo's one of the few that do it right and they havent done it in a while

Amiibo acting as DLC is an overstated issue. I doubt you care when you see DLC on other platforms.

>starts from

this tbqh

Make the next console with a good Tabletop'esque simulator that comes for free when you buy it. You will get basic card, dice and stuff as well as a few premade games to begin with, as well as a map editor where you can create your own roleplay adventure games. Let it have online multiplayer. I would be okay with them having Amiibo features to this game to unlock new map tiles/music/character models. Also, if people play multiplayer with you by invite they unlock your amiibo benefits in their own consoles.

Other than that it's mostly just me wanting game to go back to the direction they were going in during the Nintendo Gamecube/DS era.

Focus on what they can add to their games to make their games more interesting/draw more customers, not what they can cut from their games to gain the biggest profit.

>It's OK when nintendo does it
And no, I'm not ok with DLCs in any way, shape or form, nor have I bought one in other platforms, in fact the last console I had was the DS precisely because the lack of DLC bullshit, and since then only played on PC where there still are more than enough games without DLCs to be enjoyed.

Get rid of the shitposters on Cred Forums for me.

The gimmicks have just about always been cancerous sideshow accessories or alternatives until the Wii era where they stole the primary means to play the game away from something anyone else would stick with (which their competition did and still does).

>level editor feature as the whole game when it was an extra mode in past games or other franchises
>overrated meme jrpg
>pay for the game three times and have an assload more dlc to pay for, then play Sacred Stones and feel silly
>haven't played tbmtqhwy, it's probably pretty good
>would be a 5 - 10 dollar purchase on steam if realistically priced
>another "watch Pokemon as they become increasingly stagnant with their creature designs and retain the same mechanics" episode, wow

Even their "good shit" is getting pretty bad in an assortment of ways my dude. Get woke.

marketing wouldnt make the decision on hardware support, moron

>The Wii U is slightly less powerful than the PS3

no need to thank me

For them to stop making Link a feminine gayboy and make games that aren't literally intended for 8 year olds.

Stop making the same god damn games for the 1000000th time:

- Pokermanz gen 12234897237
- ITSAME!!! MARIOOOOO!!! ver 2439874
- PinkSpermPozHole Kirby ver 238972875
- SissyFagCuck Link and Zelda ver 28457587

Make something original and new, fucking cancer shittendo and their eternal manchildren autist nostalgia milking.

>New F-Zero with 30+ player online multiplayer.
>New Metroid game and no more of this Federation Force/Other M garbage.
>Stem the obnoxious tide of HD re-releases/remakes. Instead, you buy a VC games once you fucking own it on all Nintendo hardware that follows (crossplay).
>Monster Hunter on a home console.
>Stop with the control gimmicks.
>Sort your online ecosystem out, it's 2016 there's no excuse for friendcodes etc.
>Make hardware that is capable of keeping up for third party multiplats. At this point if Nintendo made a console with comparable specs to PS4/XBone but with a decent online ecosystem THAT IS FREE they'd already be on the right foot.
>Stop drip feeding VC titles. Nintendo has a massive first party back catalogue, as we've seen with people injecting ROMs into VC there's really not a lot of effort needed to get them out there.

Lastly;

>Mother 3 for the west. Seriously, there's no excuse anymore.
>Oh, and more Amiibos plz im a massive faggot.

sold triple what the Wii U has managed pal

was a great console, i enjoyed it out of everything and it got me laid with this cute chubby girl who wore micro skirts

the wii was a complete fluke, it came about just before motion gaming, it was extremely well marketed, but that audience has moved onto thier phones and will never come back.

imagine a powerful piece of hardware, with all the third party games AND nintendo IPs. who the fuck wouldnt buy that. even if you hate nintendo, if it was the most powerful hardware it would sell to everyone

>gimmicky dungeon items
i dont think you know what the word gimmick means

>Stop firing your employees for having personal lives and unorthodox feelings

sorry but i wouldnt want a peadophile-supporting prostitute to be representing my company.

I'll never understand the hate for the GameCube. It was a powerful little console without gimmicks and Nintendo actively took steps to fix their missteps with the N64. Flash forward to 2016 and isn't that what most of you are asking of them now?

6 games isnt enough to sustain a console

I agree, I want them to give up on making consoles (maybe keep making handhelds? although main pokemon games on your phone where you can transfer all your old shit would be dope)
if they just released games on all platforms people would eat it up, they would be rolling in money
like jesus, they could live off of nothing but hd ports and just shift all their power to making new and better games
imagine amiibos working across consoles, working on PC for random different shit, I would actually buy some
hell they could make vr games
goddammit Nintendo get you act together

Metroid Prime 4 or another main line Metroid game(canonically after fusion)

>videogame "enthuasists" on Cred Forums want the only remaining actual videogame company to stop making consoles

This is what's killing gaming.

That pic shouldn't turn me on

Not sure what Nintendo has to do, but I know that they need to stop banking on gimmicks to sell their shit. The NX is sort of a final hail Mary, if it fails they should seriously consider just dropping out of the console market and just dominate the handheld one, since they practically do already, although even the 3DS is a giant turd, but they have all the best handheld IPs, and by all I mean Monster Hunter. Honestly if Nintendo just made a good handheld without the retarded 3d, with some actual ergonomics, 2 real, non nipple joysticks and a decent display, I would be happy enough. They haven't been a contender in the console market since the N64 anyway.

>Nintendo
>actual video game company
Nice bait

Most hardcore Nintendrones don't even believe that

The GameCube's failure is still a tough pill to swallow for me. It was an amazing continuation from the N64 and had way more variety in its library. It's probably my favorite console ever.

At this point literally the only fucking thing that would get me to buy NX is F-Zero vs Redline

And not "JP is a guest character"
I mean literally every driver we see in Redline, including the Vietnam vet dog that drops out, is playable.

After Sega's exit from the hardware business, it's the last remaining actual video game company making its own hardware and you know it. If Nintendo goes the way of new Sega, then I'm out.

Release good games and make the NX relatively powerful. Yeah I get it won't be PC powerful but at least something relatively respectable. They have so many fucking cool and interesting IPs and they do jackshit with them.

>Banjo-Kazooie
>killed by nintendo

How young are you?

>The Wii U is as powerful as the PS4
Now you are just fishing for reaction faces.

Yeah, the GameCube is an arguable success, not in comparison to the other consoles that gen, but on its own it wasn't absolute shit, had a few decent games, was compact, cheap enough etc etc. But it was nothing compared to what the N64 was when it hit the market, and by the end of its console cycle, the GameCube was in a baaad spot.

Region-free games. This would solve so many problems if done. If not, I will pass. I just bought the damn wii u not long before the nx rumors started!

It sucks because I'll always argue that the GC has a much better overall library than the N64. Plus it was capable of running most multiplats.

>banjo kazooie
How is that Nintendo's fault?

>pikmin 1-3
>not in good motion controls list
Fag

>w-waaaah, Nintendo is best becuz they are only true vidya game exclusive company left.

Well the good news is that they aren't going to go the way of SEGA, they have more then enough money to do whatever wonky crap they want and even if they fail they can stay afloat if the people running the company decide they want to still. But just because they only do video games doesn't mean they are the only game company. The fact that they are the only game exclusive company in the market and don't dominate it is actually preeeeetty pathetic honestly. They can barely even keep up with their competition.

Buy every third party that ever had any game that people talked about, even if that game turned out absolute shit from a gameplay standpoint.

Voila, Nintendo gets automatic sales for whatever system they put out, since the market isn't willing to look at a system for what the system offers anymore, and Nintendo gets to keep doing what they do in innovating with hardware.

A console stronger than the Scorpio, a proper account system so purchases aren't tied to the fucking console, at least five new AAA exclusive home console games until the PS5 (not sequels but actual new games), an even newer console released in tandem with Playstation 5, much cheaper games that actually go down in price over time, third-party support, INDIE SUPPORT, but most importantly:

ANNUALISED RELEASES FOR EVERY LAST ONE OF THEIR PROPERTIES!

Nintendo has the (arguably) best slate of properties in gaming! If you buy a Nintendo console, you shouldn't need to buy any other system in order to keep getting new, great games! Nintendo systems should be getting proper Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Starfox, Donkey Kong etc. games up the ass every fukming year! Not one game per generation! Or two if you're lucky or zero if you're Starfox or Metroid or F-Zero!

I don't care if Nintendo needs to hire third party developers to pick up their slack: Nintendo has such a massive catalog of properties from Waverace to Pikmin to Pilotwings to Mother and on and on the list goes, that even if a new machine didn't get third party support, I should not feel left out because I should be flooded with amazong Niendo games on an annual basis!

I should be getting more than one fucking Zelda at the end of the Wii U's lifecycle.

fucking announce their fucking console ffs

Here's the way I tend to look at it: Nintendo was and is a toy company basically. Once they were forced to compete with mega size giants like Sony and MS, they were out of their league. Nintendo has always relied on making high quality games with really small development teams. They can't afford to take the massive upfront losses on hardware like the big boys can.

Agreed and the GameCube was that console for me. It was the only console I owned during the 6th gen and never felt that I was hugely missing out.

>They can't afford to take the massive upfront losses on hardware like the big boys can.

This. Why are there so many people on Cred Forums who don't seem to understand this simple fact? Nintendo just can't outspend Sony or Microsoft.

>out of their league
Arguably true
>high quality
you lost me, the quality of their last 2 consoles has been pretty piss poor, especially for all the extra crap you had to buy for them.
>can't afford to take the massive upfront hardware losses
If that were the case they wouldn't be making new hardware every few years and relying on gimmicks to sell their hardware.

Nintendo is like the mad scientist of gaming, they used to be the best, but then they got beat by competitors and went a little off their rocker and started making all sorts of ridiculous crap. Most of which is crap, with the occasional gem that pops out time to time.

You lost me on the "making new hardware every few years" part. The Wii U launched in fall of 2012 and Nintendo usually does five year hardware cycles.

Nothing? they never really alienated me, even when i drifted towards other systems i always kept one Nintendo console alongside them for the exclusives.

It's the other companies that seem to be going out of their way to piss me off, Sony launched an expensive multiplat machine after their two sucessful consoles, MS launched a faulty console and if you want to play online you have to pay extra for a service that was full to the brim with assholes with modiffied consoles, and Sony went and did the same thing while providing fuckall security to their users info.

Nintendo would have to do something extraordinarily retarded towards the consumer for me to give up on them.

I find that hard to believe, Nintendo are rich as fuck.

Nintendo's recent consoles have been way cheaper to produce than those of the competition. That's the only way they can still compete at all.

>release an actual "home" video games console
>release some games that aren't entirely focused to appeal to 12 year olds.
>ditch the motion control bullshit.
Will never happen though.

Pic related in Super Smash Bros.

>Nintendo are rich as fuck.

Sony and especially Microsoft are multimedia power houses. Nintendo is small as shit in comparison.

The reason they're so rich is because their hardware has generally been inexpensive to produce and thus they make a profit on both hardware and software. A lot of people seem to think the N64 was cutting edge but I believe the launch price was only $200.

/thread

The Wii U largely ditched motion control unless you're playing Wii games on it. Not sure why people are still harping on them about that.

Didn't even bother with it, I mean c'mon just look at the fucking controller.

Abandon dedicated hardware and start making enhanced ports and sequels to games people actually. F-zero, Metroid Prime, Pikmin, Games that aren't Zelda or Mario. A Mario Kart game on steam with a custom track builder would be godlike and a 4 player co op or vs mode for Pikmin would be hilarious.

Also they need to stop trying to reinvent the wheel and focus on making games fun NOT different. Starfox zero was ruined primarily because they were trying to prove that the WiiU gamepad isn't a complete waste of plastic it is by forcing you to use it for basic aiming instead of just using the wiimote or dual analog sticks. I feel that thay also need to actually have a more open diologe with fans and learn from their mistakes instead of trudging along. Imaging how much money they would make if Nintendo made a Mario Kart or zelda game for PC, Xbone and PS-quadruple. Boku buck my niggas. Boku fucking bucks.

Acquire Ferrari license, produce Outrun 3

Also a console MK with online battle mode on par with MKDS

Well the subtext of these threads is "what can Nintendo do so that you can buy their console and only that console for an entire generation like back in the NES and SNES days?"

It doesn't work like that anymore. I haven't solely owned a Nintendo console since the SNES era. The N64 had long gaps in major releases so also owning a PlayStation was basically a must for me.

>Acquire Ferrari license, produce Outrun 3
user, we're talking about Nintendo here, not Sega.

Melee HD

The gamepad is surprisingly comfortable but I have a thing for huge controllers.

>what can Nintendo do so that you can buy their console and only that console for an entire generation like back in the NES and SNES days

I'd rather just have a Wii U and nothing else than owing just a NES or SNES without a Master System and espically without a Mega Drive. BAKA

Here's the thing man. Franchises like F-Zero and even Metroid were never blockbuster sellers for Nintendo even in their prime. They have small but dedicated fanbases.

Yeah but you're from the U.K. where Sega was top dog. I was speaking from an American perspective. Btw, Genesis is a cooler name and we got the superior orange Dreamcast swirl. Nyah!

Release a console with more than five good games that aren't just recycled bullshit.

I don't know why I keep buying Nintendo consoles. I haven't bought a Nintendo console on launch since the N64 but there is always one game that drags me in. Xenoblade made me want the WiiU but after that there wasn't much to hold my attention.

I'm not buying an NX until i somehow know Nintendo isn't just going to abandon the console after a few noteworthy games.

Thankfully I also have my PlayStation consoles and my PC to keep me occupied.

>you're from the U.K
Don't insult me, please. I'm not. The Genesis/Mega Drive had all of its best games available in the US too, so I don't see why an American wouldn't want to play them too.

But on a platform with a more "hardcore" userbase, they have potential to reach a wider audience that would buy those games but not want to waste money on a whole console just to play them.

The problem as I see it is Nintendo has a major uphill battle trying to convince people that their console is hardcore. They've had the kiddie console image ever since the N64.

>NOT WHAT I WANT SYNDROME
You Nintendo shills are the fucking worst. You're the reason why Nintendo is able to get away with their laziness.

They literally aren't releasing what anyone wants ... they aren't releasing anything ....

There is a complete lack of software and they are shitting on their long term fans by releasing mediocre rehashes, unnecessary HD remakes, and low quality games that lack any effort.

The 3DS is much better than the WiiU in terms of quality games and variety.

If anything they should just stop making home consoles and stick to handhelds.

Stop reviving neglected franchises with drastic changes that made the originals great (Star Fox, Paper Mario, Metroid etc) and expand and improve their established formula with the technology with have today.

Make a normal, powerful console where the fucking gimmicks are sold seperately if we wanna by them.

Stop Miyamoto from interfering with upcoming projects and shoving retarded gimmicks into everything he's involved with.

3rd Party support. Very unlikely to happen tho, because they're fucking idiots.

A proper 3D Mario in the vein of SM64/Sunshine/Galaxy

Stop being out of touch with the gaming community and actually treat their fanbase with some form of respect.

Ditch their stupid fucking content policies on Youtube.

I used to fucking love Nintendo when I waas young that I was a total fagboy and bought nothing but Nintendo products. Miyamoto was my hero too, influencing me to be a game designer.
Now, as a grown man who has purchased Playstation and Xbox products, I can't fucking stand the companies bullshit decisions, and came to realize that Miyamoto is a fucking horrible game designer.
Fuck Nintendo. Even if the NX isn't a giant piece of shit and is actually kinda good, I will still say fuck them. They've screwed up too many times for me to retain my respect.

Do they even make that much money from hardware sales? It seems like it would be smarter and more profitable to just abandon the hardware market and focus on software. Besides nostalgiafags people like Nintendo for their games, not their systems. There is no reason for something like the new zelda to not be playable on something like the ps4 or xbone. In fact they would probably run better and the developers wouldn't have to sacrifice the graphical fidelity just to make the fucker run. The WiiU is not a significant competitor in the console market and its likely that nintendo hardware never will be again.

Reggie says "It's not about the tech, it's about the content", which is kinda funny considering the Wii U's weak-ass specs is one of the main reasons there wasn't as many games available to buy for the fucking thing.
And it looks like they're set to make a weaker system YET AGAIN with the NX. Less games, less third-party, more gimmicky bullshit.

I've been saying this for a while, but why does it seem like Nintendo has retreated into this insulated Japanese bubble? I feel like NoA actually had some power back in the 90s.

>"everything" means an overwhelming majority
(You)

What do you mean
>I feel like NoA had power in the 90s
Nintendo dominated the 90s along with the PlayStation. Or were you born after the Xbox was released?

Nintendo came close to monopolizing the home console industry but the GameCube fucked everything up for them (no DVD player as well as a few other things). Ever since then Nintendo has released weak hardware and increasingly mediocre software for their home consoles.

It honestly feels like they have given up.

Are you retarded?

What I mean is I feel like NoA actually had some decision making power back then and weren't completely at the mercy of whatever the Japanese headquarters decide.

gr8 b8 m8

Nobody can be this stupid ... r..right?

> he didn't play SM3DW co-op with his gf, best friend, and brother over a series of friday nights before going out
> he didn't experience the free flowing fun of mixed co-op and competitive play in the most imaginative 3d mario environments
>he didn't cry with laughter as the ghost house TPK was discovered naturally through pure play

pity.tiff

Nope. Nintendo's pattern of poor foresight absolutely began with the N64. The advantages of cartridges did not outweigh all the negatives. Everyone loves to pin it on the GameCube but they made a ton of mistakes in the N64 era.

Ah true. I'm not sure about that, all I know is that there were a lot more North American third party developers so maybe that's why it felt like they had more of a presence/more power at the time.

stop

Stop region-locking, shit localizations, and censorship.

I'm not saying they didn't make mistakes with the N64. But at least the N64 had a lot of great games that were both innovative and fun as hell. They also had hardware that could compete with PlayStation.

The GameCube had some great games and had hardware mostly comparable to to Xbox and PS, but their console sold horribly due to missing out on the dvd market.

I personally liked the GameCube but every after the GameCube has been a fucking disaster.

There's no value in making consoles anymore, and at this point they're holding Nintendo back.
Nintendo is wasting resources trying to pad out their console's libraries because they can't rely on third parties to do it for them anymore, and the result has been a sharp decline in quality.
If they went third party they could greatly reduce the size of the company and focus on releasing just a handful of high quality original titles every few years instead of piles of plastic toys, plastic accessories, handheld remakes, or the same handful of franchises there must be at least one entry of on every console.

Quit killing franchises.

I've never been entirely convinced by the DVD thing. The Xbox was only capable of playing movies if you bought their remote and IR receiver. That said, Nintendo should have at least used full sized discs instead of those stupid mini DVDs.

this.

The region locking is so fucking unnecessary.

Nintendo kind of reminds me of Apple. They limit their users and block them off from certain features because they want consumers to use their products in a way that only benefits the company.

Nintendo's strongest, successful and always reliable crowd, whether you like it or not, is the handheld business.

If the NX can perfectly merge both Handheld and console so both sides can be happy, then it will be fantastic

There's flaws for both sides, Handheld people probably don't want to spend too much money while console people want the full console experience

This is a risk Nintendo's gong to take and people are undermining the potential success

especially since releases won't be so stagnated between two different devices

>Regionlocking

They are working on that and it's been stated it's something they want to do

>Shit localization

have you played recent games? They are fantastic, the people who played Paper Mario Color Splash (shit game i know) stated that the writing is top notch and the best Treehouse has done in recent years

>Censorship

Pokemon Sun and Moon's costumizations, yeah it's Gamefreak, but still

When I got my PS2, one of the main reasons was because of the DVD drive. People seem to forget how expensive DVD players were initially. I had Nintendo consoles all my life until PlayStation swayed my loyalty with the inclusion of a DVD player.

Along with an awkward release date and rampant piracy this also contributed to the death of the dreamcast.

>Saw this post
>Thought this was a thread about EA

You're so hopeful. I'm almost looking forward to all your dreams being shattered.

I want this new console to be successful but it won't be. And I am convinced that the NX will be the last Nintendo console.

Games.

It's not like Nintendo dominates the handheld market huh?

And why the fuck do you want a console to fail

Just announce the fucking NX already before I buy a PS4

Every company killed franchises user

It's just that Nintendo has more because they were around longer. EA's company count is massive given its age

This, just look at ORAS on an emulator
youtube.com/watch?v=TEO49Xl8BzA

I'm referring to home consoles.

And I stated that I want it to be successful. I just know that it won't be. You have to be realistic. People who have faith in Nintendo these days are the minority.

You can't fix what is already broken. When you try to fix that broken part something new will break. They have years to fix the problem and they fuck up with the wii.

1.) no motion or touch controls
2.) no screen on controller
3.) no mobile/stationary hybrid shit

That's about it. I don't even care about third party support or graphics - just give me precision controls instead of wibbly-wobbly bullshit and make the games about skills and game design, dammit!

I'm 34 and I've owned every Nintendo console since the NES. I honestly don't think we'll see any major changes until their board of old Japanese businessmen that have been around since the 80s start to die out.

This thread in a nutshell:
>I want Nintendo to do stuff no other company does or straight impossible shit because, look, I don't actually care about nintendo but let me pretend I'm a long time fan saddened by their current situation

While I find Nintendo consoles disappointing I've always enjoyed their handhelds, so if the NX really is some kind of portable hybrid I'll probably get it.

I'd really like for Nintendo to experiment more with new IP's. Splatoon is a start at least.

LOL THEY SHOULLD LET ME PLAY MUH MAHREEOO ON MY PS2 BECAUSE I PAID GOOD MUNEY FOR MUH PS2 AND GAME DEVELOERS SHOULD BOW TO MY COMAND AND THEY SHULD MAKE METRID PRIME ON MY IPOD TOUCH LOL

>not wanting another locked down pc
kys

I've also owned every Nintendo console since the NES and I think you're right.

They need new management and they need to fucking get with the system. They know what the people want but they just refuse to give it to them.

>implying gamers want to play an FPS on a touchscreen device with no buttons

kek

Sony benefited immensely from giving SCEA a lot of power in the PS1 era. I don't understand why Nintendo has so much trouble with giving their western divisions more control.

EA isn't exactly a young company. They were founded only a few years after Activision, who were the first third-party developer for consoles.

Simple, all NX games for the next 2 years are also on Wii U.

release a console with at least 1080p res. i'm tired of playing on lower cancerous resolutions when there's 4k screens on fucking phones already.

Kek

Epic!

This, i really hope they do it well

You should also mention that people won't be disappointed in seeing a great trailer of a game only to be saddened that it's not on their preferred machine.

I don't understand why Mario Sports Superstars is on the fucking 3DS for

Atleast with NX, they announce a game, bam that's it, no split