Do you think a significant number of people will still be playing games from the 90s in 50 years time?

50 years? try 5 years. people today measure passage of time with generations of iphones

>le wrong generation maymay

To be fair, the UI for classic games is fucking terrible most of the time, even though PC games in the 90s was the height of gaming IMO. I'd love for someone to update the games and have a less convoluted, esoteric clusterfuck of an interface.

>just bought a 3DO
>eagerly go to sister's house and set it up
>ok, kid, you're going to learn to appreciate Blade Force
>isn't even slightly interested
Goddamn 2 year olds don't know class.

id say theres probably one person who plays old games per 200 gamers.

yeah probably only the good ones though

Sure, why not. Any gamer will play old classics to see if they're as good as they say.

>somehow
u retarded or smthn

i stay away from old games mostly because playing them isn't a matter of download, install, fire it right up!!

the last time i tried to play a retro game i had to install a hook for MSDOS. launch the game via console.
once i finally got the game running i needed 10 minutes to get over the resolution shock.
then after that i figured out that ps/2 mouse support was all fucked up.

Do you think a significant number of people will still be reading books from the 90s in 50 years time?

Retarded or b8ing

in 50 years time most of the population will probably be dead. futures bleak

I'll be playing RCT on my deathbed

Do you think a significant number of people will still be masturbating to porn from the 90s in 50 years time?

I dont think its the same. Technology is an important part of videogames, but not so much of books - I can read a book from 600 years ago and its just as effective in conveying information as one today.

>there are people who will never know the wonder of Twinsens Oddysey

That's fucking bs though. I was on here when fallout 3 came out and everyone gave it tons of shit and was skeptical it would live up to the first two games.

"Oblivion with guns" was the meme

I've wondered about this. I usually can't play (PC) games older than 1997 or so. Is this because that's when I started playing PC games, because the UI's actually became semi-modern around that time, or something in between?

I'm more worried that by then people will straight up FORGET how to certain genres. RTS is so on the way out it's not even funny.

I don't think a significant number do now. You're on a board dedicated to people that know the ins and outs of 30 years of gaming. The average player out there lasts maybe 2 gens then moves on in life.

Even you asking that gives an answer. My youth was in the 80s. You didn't ask about the 80s. So if you don't play from 30 years ago, why would anyone 50 years from now go back 70 years? I don't even play most 80s games and no 70s games at all.

It's because you are homosexual and a plebeian.

Same can be said for games now. Not many people are truly even playing 90's games now as it is anyways. I know I'll still play 90's games for the foreseeable future since late 80's to early 2000's was the best years gaming will ever see.

That's really more of a problem because people think of IE generation RPGs as and all, be all progenitors of the genre. They conveniently forget there's an entire SSI generation that preceded it.

If you're reading a book from 600 years it's because people have accepted that it's too important to be lost. I'd say it's the same with games. Obviously there's the problem of having to adapt the games to newer systems without them breaking apart but if it's worth saving, someone will.

No, things are actually getting worse

considering my sexual orientation would have made me a criminal until just 20 years ago, im gonna go ahead and disagree

Have you tried teaching a younger person how to play older games? It's not easy, even if they're interested.
I tried showing the classic Fallout games to some soldiers while on deployment last year. They were super-hyped for Fallout 4, and I figured they would like to see where the series came from. One was very interested, 2 were "meh" and only one outright said he wasn't going to play any outdated games. So, I fired it up and let the interested one take the helm.
"OK, I'm at the vault they told me to go to. I can't get down the elevator. What do I do?"
"Think. You passed a green circle on the main map. Green circles mean it's an area you can visit. Maybe they have rope."
"OK, I'm in Shady Sands. No one will sell me rope and this old fucker wants me to kill radroaches. I tried, but they kick my ass."
"THINK. Talk to everyone! See the one guy who stands out? With the jeans and leather jacket? Have you tried talking to him? He MIGHT be a recruitable character who can help."
"This is boring"

i really had to do this, how is it retarded or bait?

>he thinks these games will be playable in 50 years.

It'll be a miracle if it's possible to run them.

>The degradation of moral fiber is a good thing

Silly user, those games aren't REAL RPGs. They're just products of their time. RPGs weren't invented until the late 90's with Fallout and Planescape: Torment

But also the first 30 minutes of Fallout 2 are fucking terrible for a first time player

because they're based on AD&D which was the shit at the time, but might as well be sorcery to modern players used to streamlined systems hand-holding them throughout. we're already way past the point where people consider your baldur's gate and whatnot to be archaic because it requires for them to learn the system.

The interfaces really are terrible, like "what the fuck were they thinking" bad at times.

RTS is gonna be completely dead within the next generation I think, the best genre ever is gonna die simply because it can't be played on consoles.

There's a pretty active Fallout 1 and 2 scene out there compared to other "retro" RPGs.

Nobody is saying otherwise, fuccboi.

go home josh

the fact that they updated it to run on modern OS's helps

the guy you quoted was talking about FO1

No, in 2050 will would automatically erase a game from existence after 5 years of it's release to make way for the next unfinished overpriced title

True, but I'm talking about Fallout 1. Shady Sands should have been a hint.

The Fallout games were never that good.

fuck, replace "would" with "DENUVO 3"

I would recommend underrail to them. Alot of effort was put into the 'quality of life' functions of the game while being hugely reminiscent to fallout 1/2. Might be the stepping stone needed to get into that style of gameplay and become accustomed to old UI's. Modern games dont resemble old rpgs in the slightest and old rpgs arent the most intuitive of video games

Nah, he's right. Even some games released past 2005 are almost impossible to run on modern hardware and OS.

yknow its weird

I had no problem throwing myself into Fallout 1 and 2 despite being a teenager who never played videogames until 2007

but I just couldnt get into Underrail, i kept stopping for protracted periods

idk whats up with that

Underrail is more like isometric Might and Magic or Wizardry 7 than Fallout to be honest. Game focuses on exploration and combat while in Fallout you pretty much just fast travel from theme park to theme park with the occasional random encounter.

>american tax dollars are spent on military playing video games

>old rpgs arent the most intuitive of video games

To be fair that's because barely anything outside of platforms really way intuitive at the time. And it's simply the design principle of them time.

As one example
>Why don't we have tooltips have explaining what all these buttons do?
Because you were meant to read the manual to figure that shit out before or while playing the game.

No. But there will almost certainly be more playing 90's games than playing 2010's games.

People still watch movies from 50 years ago.
And not just because of film classes or things of that sort. For many reasons, whether it be curiousity or genuine entertainment.

It's interesting with video games. Because the industry is so young, it's really hard to say as to how they will be looked back on 50 years from now. Whether they be "classics" or not. Who even knows what state the industry will be in 50 years from now. We're talking the year 2066. When most of us will be long retired.

Quick Cred Forums, post the best 90s games

ROLL FOR YOUR LIFE

Fuck off, Bongoloid. Half my time overseas was spent explaining basic technology to you people.

Doom
Doom 2
Might and Magic World of Xeen
Might and Magic VI: Mandate of Heaven
Quake
Starsiege: Tribes
Unreal
Unreal Tournament
Baldur's Gate
Ultima Underworld
Ultima 7
Heroes of Might and Magic 3

What are you talking about op? Everybody is playing 80 - 90's games. Everything game after the 90's has been a rehash.

Jagged Alliance 2 was my SHIT

When did Adam Sandler get the JUST treatment?

What about katamari damacy?

>80 year old records LP of daggerfall on VRTube
>cacophony of HALT in the background
>"back in my day, all the vidya chicks had their titties flopped out"
>cue beavis and butthead laugh

Same with movies after 1960. No one cares

Roooll

I'm stealing your image user

Rolling.

CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

Yes and no. The 90s saw the pinnacle of 2D game design and the awkward, ugly, clunky beginnings of 3D.

The former will still be played, the latter not.

FOR AIUR

Fuck your shit. People still play Quake. Games like Descent less so but it's playable to this day.

as has been said the farther back you go the more obtuse vidya UIs get. Some manage to be pretty playable but those are pretty rare. It boils down to how intuitive the game is and whether or not the Player has fun.

I've been dropping a lot of modern titles for doing stupid shit like overusing QTEs or hiding behind set pieces rather than actually letting me play the fucking game.

holy shit I had the demo for this

\thank you user I will now go pirate this

Change it to "95% of modern Cred Forums" and I'll agree

Oh my look at those video games

>The N64 came out 20 years ago

>Most people already refuse to touch anything older than 1995 now.
So they're people with actual brains? I can't speak for other genres, but when it comes to RPGs, anything released before Fallout is shit and cannot even be considered a RPG due to the high standards Fallout set for the genre.

>They conveniently forget there's an entire SSI generation that preceded it.
The generation that preceded Fallout and IE "RPGs" are h&s dungeon crawlers, not RPGs. Also, there isn't a single RPG made on the IE, they're all h&s including BG2.

Rollin'

Might as well.

They are allowed to have down time you know.

If RTS dies, it'll be because almost every RTS since Starcraft has gone down the retarded ultra micro path.

Come back Dark Reign and C&C Generals. You're our only hope.

Kek.

rolling for this

most likely not, it seems to me that newer gamers get used to games that are so dumbed down that they can't get into games that actually makes you sort of think. hell, games without map markers seems to be too difficult for them

>Do you think a significant number of people will still be playing games from the 90s in 50 years time?

no because humankind will be extinct long before 2066

wait, what do you mean intuitive in this case?
i always found old rpg's really easy to get into and play (which is what some people mean when talking about intuitive)

>Look up old game on steam
>Negative review with only "no tutorial no idea wat to do"
It's a bit of a weird feeling.

We all will

yeah well that's newer gamers for you.
>see a few lines of text, right at the start
>skip all of it
GAME SO SHIT, NO MAP MARKER!!
perhaps they should learn to read before complaining

>tfw manuals are simply not a thing anymore

I didn't want to acknowledge this feeling.

keep rollin rollin rollin rollin rollin

Roll time.

real nigga roll call

The oldest game I can play and still have fun is AoE II, Deus Ex and pic related. Graphics aren't everything but I'm not going to pretend not to care about how bad the visuals are on most 90s stuff. I think more remasters (NOT remakes) are in order for a lot of that stuff.

>roll this

0. Civilization is ending in ~20 years.

Judaism just isn't real man

seriously?
can't you play and enjoy stuff like baldur's gate and betrayal at krondor?
i'm currently playing betrayal at krondor and loving it.

You seriously think RPGs have to be about story and characters?

might as well roll

Planet Escape?

Probably already played it

aren't they?

You're implying that computers 50 years from now can even play these games.

>To be fair that's because barely anything outside of platforms really way intuitive at the time.

Bullshit. Dragon Quest was based directly off the creators' experiences playing Wizardry and Ultima, and it has an extremely easy to understand interface for an NES game.

>People still watch movies from 50 years ago.

Here's the difference between that and "people read books over a thousand years old", and video games.

Those are in formats that aren't ever going away. Old videogames were made for software that in some instances were notoriously hard to get running at the time, and are almost impossible now. Have you tried getting Windows 3.1 running recently outside of a rig specifically made from parts and software from the time?

>Play and love Grimrock
>Try to play older dungeon crawlers
>Their interfaces are garbage and the classes don't make any sense

JUSTed by terrible interface

Give me something I don't recognize but will be mildly interested in

I miss that gritty gothic style fantasy.

Everything feels either cartoony/comicbook/anime out of its mind

If there is something i'd want back from the 90s is this art style.

Then why the fuck did I bring the cheetos and fill out this character sheet nigga?

Console games, yes. PC games, no. Already enough issues running some games. Trying to get Halo 2 Vista to work on something that isn't Vista is fucking impossible.

Well when you only have 4 buttons and a d-pad, you only have so much to work with in terms of building a UI.

Back when everything was influenced by Conan, Dark Crystal, and other crazy fantasy shit from the 80s? Yeah, I miss it too.

>no new AAA games come in massive cardboard boxes with foldout panels and a manual that makes your cock look like a little baby
We're truly living in the worst timeline.

>what is compatibility mode

Everything runs on a vista, EVERYTHING.

For as shitty as it was for anything else, the Vista was compatible with basically everything that ever existed on pc up to that point.

Do you not have an old Vista machine laying around?

Doesn't work for Halo 2 Vista. Won't work for every game. Halo 2 Vista is notorious for this shit though.

Hell no.

For splitting orc skulls and taking loot.

Fuckin loved doing a low intelligence run in Fallout 1 + 2.

Hello

Bu t I played the shit out of this game when I was a kid

They'll still be playing DooM, Morrowind, HoMM 3 and Baldur's Gate.

most people only play things that are relevant in social circles. Shit (seemingly) most people that play old games only play ones they played in childhood. Like you play an old game and think "that was alright" and want to talk about it, but there's only nostalgaifags that will crucify you for any sort of criticism and anti nostalgiafags that will poopost about how you're a hipster/nostalgiafag or some other troll post meant for deluded romanticizers

try lands of lore user
it's more story-oriented than dungen crawly though but at least it has automap
keyboard controls are awful tho, so you might want to rebind shit in dosbox keymapper but it's worth it

>Console games, yes. PC games, no.
Other way around actually. Consoles are already dropping backward compatibility left and right. Emulation will be (and already kinda is) a big factor in playing older games.

Depends on the games. Something iconic and groundbreaking like Doom or Quake will always attract players but anything obscure will be as dead as can be.

Man I miss 90s fantasy.

>no ultima 7
What the fuck user?

What's 25?

Rollin' for fun

If you look at trends today, people will definitely at least have a curiosity about old games. Mostly console games though since more people have played them and transfer knowledge about them to other people. Sadly, hardly anyone remembers classic PC games outside of a few games.

Shin Megami Tensei

Thanks.

>Do you think ppl will still be playing timeless classics 50 years from now?
Gee op I wonder

Yes, but there are very few games you really can't play. Most of the time google is everything you need to fix everything and the only thing that might still be a problem is lack of proper widescreen support/small UI

RTS' hold a special place in my heart because Age of Empires 2 was the first PC game I ever learned to play. I was like 5 and used to sneak on my brother's computer when he was in school. Didn't speak any English or know how to read properly, but in the end I beat every campaign.
Good times.

Movie nerds watch old as fuck B&W films and praise them as masterpieces. Why wouldn't video game nerds do the same?

Mind you I'm talking about the aficionados, not mainstream crowds.

Well let's see here.

Rollan'

>Duke Nukem 3-D
Shit.

This

While it's possible to overcome almost all problems and play almost all old games (even the ones that haven't been released to PC thanks to emulation), it takes quite a bit of technical knowledge and dedication. Most "normal" gamers don't have that.

I don't think anyone is implying normies will play Doom in 50 years. Surely we're dealing with enthusiasts.

Maybe more like per 200 big gamers (think about most people who play LoL, CSGO, Overwatch, Minecraft, AAA releases, etc). It is way smaller a fraction if you include something like mobile.

Yeah, I can't play anything pre-95. I've been spoiled by good UI and game design that these old as fuck games lose their playability for me.

Old FPS games fine though for some reason, but not RPGs or Adventure game.

>Eye of the Beholder and Neverwinter Nights for 1991, but no Isles of Terra

This list belongs in the trash.

>Homophobia is moral
wew lad

>for some reason
you said it yourself
no ui issues in fps

>wasteland
>dungeon crawler

there has been a shit ton of clones of those kinds of games recently.

how about you actually play video games.

Doom is the one game that will never die considering it has so many sourceports. People will naturally flock to older games that are easily playable on modern systems, most first-person shooters qualify now outside of Blood (which still doesn't have a sourceport yet thanks to Atari). Rereleases on Steam and GOG really do help old games, a lot of people don't want to deal with DOSBox and want it prepackaged.

...

>a lot of people don't want to deal with DOSBox and want it prepackaged.
These people are the normies I doubt will be interested anyway.

But yeah, re-releases (repackaged for new systems) of old stuff are a much cheaper way to make money from your franchise than a sequel, so I'm sure those aren't going anywhere.

>H&S dungeon crawlers
>baldur's gate
>wasteland

Also you don't seem to understand what an RPG is, RPG is an open ended game designed for players to tell their own stories, even if there is an over arching storyline through the game, the game is about how you get there, your choices, your pitfalls, your victories, ect.

There is a reason why very early on JRPGs were given their own designation, because JRPGs were a derivative of early japanese ultima clones that focused less on open world and more on story driven events and cutscenes.

Also the first real 'hack and slash dungeon crawler' was diablo, and even then that game still told a damn good story and had more atmosphere, because it told its story through its gameplay.

This. It is not the visuals that turn people away from the older titles, and control scheme can make game obsolete.

We also had extremely limited user interfaces back then

Fuck most computers that I used before the 2000s didn't have a mouse with more then one button, if it even had a mouse.

>Slowly moving the cursor across the screen with arrow keys
Those were the days.

I will be an old man probably doing so for the sake of nostalgia. I doubt any 18 year old in like 40 years will pick up Baldur's Gate and play it.

>that feel when dungeon crawling is dead

...

>it's a "semantic argument over video game genres" episode

>Someone makes an arguement about X
>rebuttle
>"HURR DURR ITS AN X EPISODE"

People are going to have holodecks where they can holodick pornstars, aliens, anime, whatever. Why the fuck would they still be looking at primitive two dimensional games from decades ago.

To explore the furthest reaches of human experience.

Nice potrait

>People are going to have holodecks
real life doesn't work like sci fi tropes user
we were supposed to have flying cars by now

Yeah, but we also have shit they didn't predict, like internet and smartphones.

rolloopoop

They did predict those, though. Watch some Star Trek some time.

Are you saying that during the time Star Trek came out people still expected flying cars by the early 21th century? I thought that nonsense was something for the 1930's.

Right, everyone's walking around with iPads in a TNG episode recorded in 1989

Still hopeful we'll have holodecks by 2060, so I can spend retirement fucking Asaris

nytimes.com/2016/09/22/opinion/the-best-news-you-dont-know.html

wrong.

I was referring to phones and internet.

Flying cars will never happen until we have self-driving/flying cars, because it's a fundamentally retarded idea. We have enough car accidents as it is, do you want to get hit by a drunk flyer hundreds of feet in the air?

>here's predictions that were made in a specific time period that didn't come true
>here's shit people back then didn't predict that do exist
>but people during this OTHER time period DID predict those so they don't count
If people during the time when Star Trek was coming out didn't believe we would have flying cars by the early 21st century, then the prediction isn't comparable.

I legitimately have no idea what you're trying to imply, user. Can you rephrase with less greentext please.

>started it today
>6 races later i'm bored
well i never enjoyed it much but still its my only racing franchise worth playing

Roll the bones!

You're retarded.

Look. At first you said "we were supposed to have flying cars by now". Flying cars are not something that was supposed to happen "by now" during the 1990's, or the 1980's, or the 1970's, and probably not during the 1960's either. Saying that a show in the 1960's predicted wireless phones is not comparable to people predicting flying cars in the 2010's because these predictions come from different time periods.
If that doesn't explain it, nevermind.

>races
you're doing it wrong
just drive around and fuck everyone's shit up
you win the level if you destroy all opponents

no no . thats the only way i play
unless i want to win by killing every walking thing , its 98% of the time killing cars and the other 2% killing every human
but you get the point

We were promised to live in cyberpunk dystopia.
And well, here we are

>buy fallout
>get out of tutorial cave
>immediately surrounded by raiders
>die

That wasn't me. I'm sorry flying cars guy is someone else. is my first post ITT.

And besides, as says, flying cars are retarded while worldwide instantaneous communication using pocket-sized devices isn't.

And, to be honest, this complete breakdown of barriers for data transmission is arguably a bigger deal than a flying car is. Besides, aren't those called airplanes? Aviation was already a well explored technology in the 1920s.

Rolling time!

Is the 25th game Shin Megami Tensei on Snes?

Can't read Moon but it has Atlus on the cover, so probably.

This is the problem with modern games being dumbed-down so much. People who go back and play older games can't figure out what to do, because they're so used to having their hands held and everything spelled out for them.

Indubitably. I recognise the cover. You're in for a wild ride.

God damn the 90's were a great time for vidya.

>you can speech your way past them, super retard
This is way funnier than it should be.

1998 looks like the strongest line-up to me.

Fallout 1 and 2 are probably my favorite games ever made. I've been trying to get into game dev in my spare time, and I want nothing more than to make a game that's a homage to Fallout gameplay. But I'm afraid no one would want to play it.
What I loved most is:
>Isometric
>The mechanics (SPECIAL, perks, traits, skills, reputation, ect.)
>The quests
>Travel screen
>The way time passes and things change (Even if only a little)
>Being able to use items on things and NPC's
>Low INT dialog
>Talking heads for special NPC's
>Descriptive text for actions and inspecting environment
These would be essential for me. I think the thing that would scare people away most is the turn-based combat. I liked it but everyone else seems to hate it.

I'm inclined to agree. I remember seeing the E3 stuff in magazines for all those games, and they blew everyones minds when they actually came out. I think most people knew immediately they were playing classics that would be revered years down the line. It makes me really sad when I realize we're never getting that industry back.

no and I hope not. Only hipsterfags will do htis shit.
Getting tired of the "muh retro nostalgia, I'm so cool" bullshit.
I get it, you never grew out of your childhood.
I grew up playing mario too but get over it.

>you're not allowed enjoy good things after they get too old
How old does a game have to be to no longer be acceptable?

Go play old games, they are mostly shit.

You don't get tired of
>"I used to play Mario when I was a kid I'm so cool"
>"I own a SNES controller I'm so hardcore."

fuck nu males

>they are mostly shit
I just recently replayed the first three Spyro games and Crash Bandicoot 2, they were fine to me.

Rollin;

>Heretic
Played it last week.
Re-roll

>Age of Empires
Finished it in June, last time.
Come on! Re-roll.

rollanne

>Shinobi 3
>no torrent
Fuck this.

lets see

The turn based combat sucks. I'm only controlling 1 person who can do very little. Especially for me since I always used the Fast Shot trait.

But Morrowind's combat system also sucked and I still play that.

Think you can make a good enough world?

I wish you well on this quest of yours, user. But what would the game be about?

the old fallout games were great but the combat system had litle depth
it boils down to who can dish more dmg in less time and get boring and repetitive in a while
thats prbly the main reason why i did not enjoyed Wasteland 2 - they had a chance to improve even reinvent combat systems and they fucked it up

Damn shame

What? People don't play Gorky 17?

Why the fuck not?

Some of those are impossible to get.

>But I'm afraid no one would want to play it
Underrail did okay sale-wise, you'll be fine as long as your game is gud. There's still plenty of demand for things you just listed.

>Wasteland 2
If I remember correctly their combat system was quite different from Fallout.

Gimme dat 95

I play old games because I have a toaster and I'll be damned if I ever buy another console. Maybe one day I'll get a better computer and play new games but I'll return to my old ones becuse I'm casual as fuck and never finish anything.

please be good
and playable in short bursts

I can't even make up my mind if I was to do fantasy or sci-fi.

if you look closely you will see they are pretty much the same

main difference being wasteland 2 on release had barebones cover n combat lacking even in fallout 2 standarts

with enhanced edition they improved it a little but still bad map design and enemy movement+AI made it pretty much same ol shit

You're be doing god's work user, make sure it's hard as fuck and emphasize scarcity (for ammo, money, resources like fuel etc).

Scifi, so I don't have to look at isometric melee attacks as much. I don't know why but melee always looks so bad in isometric games.

>tfw started from Fallout 2
>then went to play F1
>then Tactics
>then Bethesda happened
>literally feel robbed of great franchise

Why can't we have nice things.
Why there is always a bethesda or konami to ruin everything
What did we do to deserve it

>enemy movement+AI
Ah yes I remember now why I dropped that.
I can understand human opponents showing some tactic prowess but killer bunnies making beelines for my sniper sealed the deal for me.
Making ALL enemies behave the same is just fucking lazy. Wonder if they fixed that shit in director's cut?

>Trying to get Halo 2 Vista to work on something that isn't Vista is fucking impossible.
Trying to get Halo 2 xbox fat to run on something that isn't xbox fat is fucking impossible

>literally feel robbed of great franchise
It was pretty much dead at that point user. Van Buren wouldn't happen anyway.
If it weren't for Bethesda it'd be long dead and forgotten and maybe that would be for the best.

roll for the galaxy

Hopefully in the near future video games will be as stigmatized as drugs so that no one will get to play them

>bad enemy movement+AI
Allied NPCs pissed me off with their incompetence

>NPC can't get into optimal pistol range
>spends all action points running into a honey badger den
>load save

>and maybe that would be for the best.
rather dead than the joke it has become

Turn-based combat can actually be a lot of fun, i recall games like Heroes of Might and Magic 2, where you could set the speed of the combat

At the highest speed you just saw units moving and attacking really quick to the point that sometimes it was fun to see it all play out

I miss prerendered graphics the most. I just really like them.

well for story n shit its worth a replay , combat is better in directors cut but still remains weakpoint

If Fallout 4 was a reboot or a spin-off, then i would've been ok with it

>tfw when the actual spin-off feels more like part of the franchise than the other two 3D titles

>tfw my toaster is so shitty it can't even handle darkest dungeon

At the very least we got New Vegas out of the whole conundrum. Just wish it wasn't so rushed and buggy on release.

I had so old GPU it couldn't render FTL correctly, the graphics were all garbled and the hp bar was 3 chunks of green for example.

ayo

Didn't New Vegas dev team mostly consist of old Fallout veteran devs, these that were working on latest classic titles?

rolin

Hold me soul brother.

okayyy

Sci-fi, obviously. But not post-apocalyptic. Something like colonizing a new world to get that frontier-times feeling.

>3DO
>Class

Get the fuck out of here gramps.
That thing was an overpriced boon-doggle and steaming pile of unfiltered shit.

I beat Fallout 1 and played most of 2. To be honest with you the gameplay isn't really good. It's tedious as hell when there are too much enemies on screen. The combat also seems too random at times. Like you are doing good and then suddenly the enemy one hits you with a critical.

They are decent games imo but gameplay is far from what makes them good games.

>Talking with my son's baby sitter
>One of the other kids is a teenager around 14 or some shit
>Start talking about MP3 Players & CD players.
>Mention Casettes and VHS

>The generation gap curb stomps the shit out of me as the kid sits there mouth agape wondering what in the fuck I'm talking about.

Are CD walkmen & MP3 Players that fucking old?

I could understand Casettes & VHS. I guess.

In my household we still watch old VHS tapes because they work and make satisfying noises in the machine.

Looks like you're really only talking about combat. Also you know there's an option to speed combat up right?

I miss my MJ casette player & walkman.

That thing was a nugget of joy in a shitty childhood.

>tfw my friend call games like baldur gate, fallout, planescape torment is stupid and for children
>he love lol, overwatch and play it everydays
>stop play dark souls because he doesn't know how to kill the mob with shield and spear
>never try to listen to anything other than dubstep, say genre like jazz, rock, blue is not for human
I should kill him, fucking normie

The third line pretty much confirms it, he deserves to die. Do what must be done, Grail-kun commands you!

Yeah but speeding it up in some parts it's still slow. As I said the games are good. The difficulty can be so random at times though and that to me is a flaw.

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I didn't know MP3 players weren't a thing anymore.

I feel old.

I recently played System Shock Enhanced Edition and holy shit it was great, legit one of the games I've enjoyed the most this year. Sadly, many games from the same period don't get the same kind of atention, I tried replaying Robin Hood a couple months ago but I coulnd't get it to run properly, you need an old version of a third party program and a fanmade patch to run it on 800x600 with a few visual bugs, especially on the UI. Most old games are abandonware at this point and many more will be in the future, games get old, just like us.

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You know what her response was?

"You mean an IPhone?"

>Mffw

fuck 24 roll again

Rolling.

>20

I'm ok with this.

I wouldn't go as far as calling either one of them old, but more along the lines for how long they were used. Maybe I'm from the wrong end of the spectrum, but CD walkman were not that big of a thing when I was a kid. MP3/4 players were around for a little longer, but not much, 3 years at tops.

If you consider that at least for the past 10 years you can use your phone for listenning to music, its not that suprising.

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sure, they get old but they don't get worse, unlike us.
can't really compare human aging to computer games since they don't age in that way.

I rather be forced to play Eye of the beholder 3 over any of the new games today. I cant even remember what the last "AAA" title i got.

Obsidian wrote it and obsidian was pretty much made of ex black isle guys at the time

It's a shame that pre-2000 RPGs are some of the best RPGs ever made but their UIs are just horrible. I wouldn't mind some soft remake that keep the art and gameplay the same but update the UI.

I'm a dirty motherfucking cheater and I want to cheat my way through Fallout 2, but I can't find any codes. Any recommendations?

There's a certain point in time at which games made before it just have controls and interfaces that make them hard to play.

Hell, even I probably wouldn't touch DOOM anymore today if I still had to hold down alt to strafe and turn with the arrow keys like we did back in the day.

rolando

Just use a save editor.

I legit didn't know fallout existed before fallout 3, I enjoyed fallout 3 as a 14 year old faglet that had no good taste, then played new vegas and realized how shit 3 truly was, then I played fallout 1 and 2 and while I loved 1 and still love it today more than any other I can't really like fallout 2 because of all the shitty memes but I guess that's my fault.

Maybe not moral but definitely neccesary.

Deus Ex will continue to be played forever. Possibly with gradual, slowly adopted updates over time.

I think Morrowind will live on, but much more aggressively updated, as with Skywind-type engine transitions. I have high hopes for OpenMW, in this regard, that once it's 1.0 we will start to see impressive modernization efforts (which had previously hit a limit imposed by the old engine).

I know these are both actually from the 2000s. Actual 90s games? Half-Life still stands the test of time, and probably always will (even as its remake becomes much more unpleasantly, 'uncannily' dated). The original Silent Hill will continue to be studied and revered as a genre-masterpiece. The original Thief stands the test of time, even if it's no longer a genre in lack of continuing development, thanks to recent revivals.

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The graphics on Deus Ex are so fucking dated I couldn't play it. And this was 10 years ago I thought that.

I know graphics don't ultimately matter. And I played Fallout 1, 2, and Betrayal at Krondor with no problem. But Deus Ex I just couldn't do.

That's moreso because of the infantile nature of the genre. I'm not saying they were shitty games or childish, but PC gaming wasn't super well developed early on, there was quite a bit of stuff just slapped together, and even more "what if we did this" kind of shit. Modern games today are super tropey because devs have found things that work and then sprinkle new things in. Old games were different because they didn't know what worked, genres as a whole were still being designed so UI, control schemes, all sorts of shit was totally bonkers and heavily varied from game to game. People are generally put off, in my opinion anyway, to old games because of an extreme lack of accessibility on top of really poor UI/control schemes moreso then their rudimentary graphics. To kind of drive this point home, when's the last time you played any first person game where you didn't move with wasd? Or an rpg/management game where they exclusively wanted you to use the keyboard?

Why?

Thats cause isometric games age very well where as FPS age like dogdick

Rolling, I love vidya, praise gaben.

i did it for the roll

Those generation RPGs are fucking atrocious, they are all clunky and buggy as fuck and on top of that the gameplay mechanics themselves don't make sense. I tried really hard to get into them but they always repel me

Who the fuck thought it was ok to do real time combat wihere you have to use 4 characters and there are not hotkeys at least in the ones i tried

It all comes down to ha ving the right shit to 1-4 shot everything

Wizardry and early ultimas were dungeon crawlers where you only kill shit

Don't getm e started on those where you can only move one square at a time or those which have infinite encounters which means that if you take more time than needed you run out of supplies and you just lose without being able to do anything so you can't really explore shit just get to the exit as fast as possible

>they are mostly shit
played FO1/2 for the first time last year and they were fantastic. Game design changed and not holding your hand at every point was better, even if it didn't work out all of the time.

bof

>Hell, even I probably wouldn't touch DOOM anymore today if I still had to hold down alt to strafe and turn with the arrow keys like we did back in the day.

You never had to do this, you can change the controls to be more typical.

If you live in America it wasn't illegal to "be gay" or whatever the fuck you're talking about.

hatin

rollan for my life

do you think there will be a significant amount of people left on the planet in 50 years?

>play first fallout
>need to examine every NPC you came across to see if it is an unique NPC
>no quest log so you have to write down the quest you took on
>slow poke turn based combat
>worthless skills are everywhere to throw you off

hopefully no

I think that global warming can teeter beyond the point of no return but even in 50 years we'll find a way to survive even with averages of 35 degree weather and no ozone layer we'll cope. When you're underground there won't be much to do but watch reruns and play video games.

When sea levels rise there will be a refugee crisis from flooded coastal cities that will be the undoing of our society. Riots and looting and such. However, that being said, it will be Europe and Asia that gets ruined by this given the convulsions it has dealing with refugees right now. There will be sufficient natural barriers that will protect North America from South America as parts of Central America will be completely underwater.

Lucky bastards.

There will probably be a very small number of people who still play ancient games. The vast majority will just be forgotten though.

I am one of those people for the most part. I was never a fan of point and click adventure games, so that eliminates a lot of the old classics like Monkey Island.
Really old RPGs and shit also have awful controls and UIs. I found System Shock 1 to be totally unplayable.

Games like Doom and console RPGs like Shadowrun and Final Fantasy are fine though.
I am curious about what some of the younger generation would think of games like Doom though. I don't know any post 99 kids, so I can't find out myself. I'm curious as to whether or not they would think Doom is playable.

Neck yourself kid

They had been around for over 20 years and were a clearly defined genre and industry by 1990 and were popular enough to have magazines dedicated to to coverage of computer games. Don't talk about things you know nothing about.

SS1 with mouselook mod is just as playable as Doom imo, just make sure to read the steam guide for the keyboard controls. Fantastic game too.

Console RPGs are unplayable with their controller oriented interfaces rather than being mouse driven or keyboard driven. Honestly sounds like you're just too retarded to read a manual and expect tooltips in a 30 year old game.

Why would you play Final Fantasy with a mouse? What's the fucking point?

I remember people being were way too hard on Tactics. Little did they know what actual Fallout 3 would be like.

I don't think most of the human race will be alive in 50 years time.

What could possibly go wrong?

Ever heard of a little game known as Wizardry?

Because it's an obscure Polish RPG? I'm suprised anyone outside Kurwaland even heard of it.

Is this what Cred Forums legitimately believes

You'd play it with a keyboard just like most older RPGs. Mouse driven RPGs were mostly ones like Dungeon Master that are unplayable on console ports because the dpad is used for the cursor navigation.

Wizardry was released on PC first and later ported to consoles.
You'll notice that I specifically mentioned FF and Shadowrun. Both are isometric while Wizardry is first person.

bung smole

I mean, they're completely different games what do you expect.

It doesn't help that Fallout is pretty hard when you're first starting out.

The problem with early games is controls.

Absolutely not. I stopped playing most crpgs and old 3d rpgs after Witcher 3 came out. Modern games are becoming more and more better.

I don't understand your post. Despite not being in first person, FF still plays identical to old dungeon crawlers because there is no positioning involved. The perspective has no effect on the gameplay. Even if it did, there are top down games on PC.

>Do I fit in yet Cred Forums

Significant? No.
But the big, popular titles will still be brought up and played from time to time. Just like everyone knows about movies like Citizen Kane, Casablanca, and Gone with the Wind, games like Super Mario won't be forgotten for decades. That said though, it helps to be a running franchise and to be part of a living company. I can't see anyone looking back on Joe & Mac 50 years from now.

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Absolutely this. I cannot understand how anybody can unironically think that golden era of gaming was in 90s and not now.

I think I've played enough Alpha Centauri over the years.

Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you.

The only gen which won't ever become obsolete is the 16bit gen imo, there are games which will be played at very least for the sake of referencing and "culture"

I can imagine Megaman 1,3 and X and early Mario games up to 64 to be constantly revisited, but it's hard to imagine it going much further. Even pokemon games age poorly.

OOT might be since its overrated as hell

I really hope every console become fully emulated at some point for such reasons too, its painful to see n64, saturn and xbox emulation. Ps3 will also be a very hard endeavor

If you enjoyed SS1 check out Terra Nova
It's like a fast paced Mechwarrior, it controls similarly to ss1
Also plenty of cheesy 90s FMVs

does it have mouselook?

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>Ninja Gaiden II
well its time for me to die

let's go

I will beat whatever I roll

or maybe not.

No backsies!

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It was specifically made to be more streamlined and easier to play than those games.

this

this so damn hard

anyone who was following video games, eat sleep breathe, etc etc knows that 1998 was an amazing year for all parties. just so many damn good games on ALL the systems, you couldn't go wrong.

and like that user said, we will NEVER get those industry times back, when we had to wait a month for new info with gaming mags, when we had so much speculation and the real thing blew it all away and when sequels were just 10 times better than the last game and not like today when they are just worse and worse.

ayy

its one of those things where you have to READ what is being said, not just skip all the text for a waypoint marker

rrrrrrrrr

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outside of the fact that van buren was mostly done????

we could have had it????

i could have played the actual fallout 3????

bethesda will never gain my respect . . .

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Fallout wasn't the holy grail of RPGs you faggots make it out to be. Picking from pre-written dialogue trees is nothing like actual tabletop RPGs and you are deluding yourself if you think otherwise.

Just play them. They're just missing quality of life features we take for granted today like tooltips, quest journals,etc but take advantage of keyboard shortcuts for most actions unlike modern RPGs that are loaded with context sensitive controls because they're console ports.

>furfag knows nothing about the bidding for Fallout's IP
>we could have had another Fallout game led by Tim Cain

Well that was fun, but the last level before Wing Fortress will forever be annoying

The first like 2 hours of Fallout 1 are just not fun for a lot of modern console gamers.

When I played Fallout 1 when I was 15. I was basically doing the exact same thing those guys were, I thought it was boring, didn't want to play anymore and consulted guides. I still enjoyed the game since I've always enjoyed turn based shooters even if I was consulting a guide every quest I did.

Fallout 2 was were I actually understood the game and was able to play it without using a guide. To really have fun with the original Fallout games, you really need to play them for 4-6 hours to understand exactly how to play, what to do, how exactly you can use items etc.

They really couldn't get it in an hour or so.

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