All these initial PS4 sales don't seem to be working out for Sony this gen.
A Gamestop executive revealed that the PS4 Pro has the lowest pre order count of any game console the company has ever seen. Even less then the Wii U.
PS4 Pro is going to bomb. No one is talking about it, and there clearly isn't a market for it. Reminder that Sony is going to continue putting out these things that no one wants for the next few years, on top of shit like PSVR, PSNow, and Vue.
>Playstation 4 Pro pre-orders are dangerously low >sony_pleasantly_surprised_by_strong_ps4_pro_pre-orders ???
Logan Moore
>Link does not exist
Only proving my point.
The fact that NO ONE is talking about Pro more than speaks for itself.
Kayden Russell
It literally appeals to no one.
>muh 4k muh silky smooth 60fps The only people that care about this are PC gaymers who 1.) would never buy a console and 2.) do not play video games.
Dylan Rodriguez
>>Link does not exist But it does. Have you tried opening it?
Ryan Howard
>being this retarded
Nicholas Davis
>link doesnt exist HURRRRRRRR
Dominic Campbell
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Jose Nguyen
Shitposting doesnt made a effort these days
Sebastian Carter
Because it is fucking stupid to get one knowing that scorpio is out next year
I just got a brand new ps4 with 6 games and an extra controller for $400. Why the fuck would anyone get the pro when we know it doesnt do 4k
Blake Perry
Atleast read the fucking thread retard
Jackson Perry
Im saving my money for a scorpio. I havent used the regular ps4 in a while, next time ill turn it on is for gravity rush.
Brandon Hill
nobody even owns a 4k TV. Why do you care about 4k?
Jackson Anderson
Well even most normies aren't retarded enough to buy a new PS4 while they bought the old one just few months ago, especially if all the games will still come out on their old PS4.
Gavin Anderson
I own a 4k TV. I really care more about HDR though than the res
Gabriel Hall
last week i asked Cred Forums if i should get a pro or slim to play ffxv and overwhelmingly the opinion was to get a pro....
you guys need to make your mind up
Caleb Jenkins
>OP
Cameron Moore
DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
Henry Watson
>Original Poster
Gabriel Long
Imagine the fucking retarded kid trying to sell this idea to his parents for Christmas or something after they already bought him one last year.
Levi Allen
You definitely shouldn't get that ffxv garbage.
Jordan Robinson
I don't really care one way or another, but hasn't that been the way they've marketed it from the beginning? The pro is the alternative option for people who want to spend the extra dough, and get a slight bump in visuals, while the vanilla is the normie box that sells in big numbers.
Isaac Thomas
>playstation sellers: consoles, games, store credit >xbox sellers: games >nintendo sellers: toy dolls with the quality of a mcdonalds happy meal toy that you shove up your ass
lmao
Brayden Powell
MS markeing Pajeets hard at work.
Adrian Robinson
>PSVR
That shit's sold out everywhere. I'm not sure what you're smoking there.
Ayden Hill
Sony might want to cut the chord on Pro fast as possible, I wouldn't mind of they pushed the eject button.
Nathaniel Thompson
It's not like sonyggers have anything else to waste their money on
Juan Morris
How about wait until both of those things are actually released before asking, you fucking retard.
Levi Sullivan
I have no idea why I'm laughing so hard at the nintendo bit. Probably because is so goddamn right.
Connor Rivera
>Sold out
Remember when people said the same thing about Oculus?
It was sold out because stores didn't order them because no one buys that shit.
Jaxon Hall
Why i like those games
Matthew Hughes
Don't worry, Japan is preordering all the ps4pro because they are retarded drones.
Charles Wright
>2.) do not play video games. That's PS4 users though.
Brayden Ortiz
Unless the games start to run like absolute dogshit on the regular PS4, i think the slim is a better deal. Cheaper, silent and as 4k is a laggy meme,you will only get any actually good improvement on pro on the games where the developers arent faggots and offer a 60fps/1080p option as well.
Elijah Rogers
Cred Forums mods won't delete a blatant shitposting thread.
Justin Rivera
What's even sadder is very few children own a Wii U
Austin Lee
Do we know if the Pro is noisy?
Jordan Evans
>expecting them to do their jobs user, this isnt like 2004-2006 times have changed
Brody Flores
Has Sony ever made a quiet machine? I've owned them all and I genuinely don't think so.
Ryan Roberts
>Before and just after Pro announcement >"4K gaming 60 fps! Mustards lose again!" >After finding out it's all bullshit >"Only PCucks care about that junk!"
Every time.
Jackson Adams
Tons of people do. It's getting more and more difficult to get a 50+ inch TV that isn't 4K
Ian Diaz
The PS2 third revision is silent. I think that's the only one.
Kayden Sanders
Good. Serves those dumbasses right for pulling the incremental console versions shit in the first place.
Adrian Clark
Their biggest problem was still calling it a PS4, if they wanted it to sell while calling it a PS4 they should have called it the PS4 Ultra or PS4 Alpha, something that really catches your attention
Ryan Moore
Hell, even PS4 Neo sounded better. What the fuck were they thinking with PS4 Pro? It's not a fucking PDF reader.
Jaxon Taylor
I still don't know if it will improve the fps issues with games like Bloodborne. I never tried to find out outside of Cred Forums though.
Ryan Myers
>ps2 Helps push dvds to mass market >Ps3/4 helps push bluray to mass market
>ps4pro there's no need for 4k bluray player as there's no market for it.
Mean while the xboxone is only selling cause it has a 4k bluray player. is there a company more out of touch then sony?
Aaron Thomas
from can't code for shit so it might actually play at locked 30 fps I doubt it'll get higher as physics is tied to fps in most from engines and tend to fuck things up when they go higher
Grayson Morgan
CPU is exactly the same. Only the GPU upgraded.
One user compared it to a horse shoving his dick inside a squirrel.
Grayson Powell
Bloodborne has multiplayer functionality. Sony said they wouldn't allow alterations to framerate in multiplayer games so Pro players "won't be at an advantage".
Josiah James
>horse shoving his dick inside a squirrel Like that's a bad thing
Gavin Mitchell
Wut
Joseph Peterson
By my personal experiences with shoving horse dicks into squirrels, improving the GPU generally improves the maximum resolution the computer can reach regardless of how fast the CPU is, because its a GPU only weight. Same can be said about screen shaders, geometry count etc etc etc...
So it IS a way to reach higher resolutions like 1440p, but if the game have shit frame rate due the CPU, the frame rate will stay the same.
Jaxon Roberts
What is the point? There are still no exclusives i want other than Bloodbourne and Disgaea
Ayden Johnson
I'm actually glad to hear this. Even less reason to buy a Pro now.
Brandon Rodriguez
>He doesn't know that the adoption rate for Steaming outpaces Blu Ray disc >He doesn't know that high internet bandwidth adoption rate is faster than HDR Blu Ray >Implying Sony didn't try for 8 years with the PS3
Well unless your ISPs are cartel like then you're fucked.
Hunter Wilson
Are there ISPs that aren't cartels?
Samuel Cox
100% deserved, fuck them. i hope thid shit bombs hard
Sebastian Cox
What is "tons", compared to the entire human race? It's fucking nothing. Nobody owns that garbaj.
Hunter Reyes
because i already bought a ps4 for bloodborne and i aint buying another just to get a stable 30 fps in it
Leo Bailey
Not in the US. You would think that anti monopoly laws would take affect because its gotten ridiculously bad.
Mason Hernandez
Probably all they can do within the price limit.
Joseph Wright
o
Jayden Hill
Well there are some comepetitive ISPs in EU, Korea and Japan.
Jason Brooks
That's what happens when you let companies fill the pockets of the men in charge, suddenly law can be written to get around their business
Jaxson Baker
I'm not sure if that's the case. The jaguar cores have very short pipelines, so its possible they're running as fast as they can, and replacing em by better cores would probably break the compatibility with quite a few games.
But they could add more jaguar cores, they're tiny.
Jordan Miller
Because everyone already owns a PS4.
Only people getting a PS4 Pro are people who don't have/want a gaming PC but are sick to death of the shitty performance on a lot of games on their PS4. Which is a pretty fucking niche audience. Sadly I fall into this niche.
Anthony Baker
Where's the WiiU on that list? :^)
Anthony Baker
Just wait nintendo release the WiiU pro.
Ian Watson
>An obvious cash grab of an upgrade of a console that came out to the market too soon does better than the WiiU
Luis Foster
How many reports does it take for a shit eating janitor to delete a thread?
Jackson Cox
I'm still on the fence
I don't have a PS4 so I'd obviously get a pro since it's only $100 more, but the main question is if I even need one. I pretty much just want to play FFXV at this point, which I know will come to PC eventually. I just don't want to wait that long for what will undoubtedly be a shitty port
Jackson Phillips
They could just patch in the ability later.
Bentley Butler
>nintendo seller description
When did everything go so wrong
Bentley Carter
There has to be other games you would want. I really don't understand how people have such limited taste like that.
Bentley Jenkins
Don't worry, they'll fake the sale numbers and/or claim numbers don't matter, just like always.
Christopher White
Cool. Proof?
David Jenkins
Does the PS4 even have any exclusives other than Bloodborne
Isaiah Stewart
I already have a PS and I'm pretty happy with it, don't see the need to upgrade. I like my PC,but I prefer to play on my PS for no real reason
Carter Murphy
this. I haven't owned a console since the Wii but I know this thread's made by the same drones who're shilling forza right now.
Colton Foster
yea look them up
Kevin Carter
The alleged number of PS4 buyers is fake. I should know, I work in marketing and its such a common practice, I don't even have to double check to see if it's true. The complete lack of evidence for said number of buyers is more than enough proof, once you get to know how companies market their products.
Wyatt Lopez
So, no proof?
William Wright
Technically speaking, even regular ole 1080p requires 10-20GB for near-lossless video quality. 4K is four times that. """HD""" streaming is cancer.
Nicholas Cruz
You want proof? Look at the so-called "graphs" Sony made about its PS4 users. Companies love to make graphs and quotes as "proof" for their claims, because it works and everyone does it.
Luis Ross
Again, no proof? Present me proof.
Brandon Anderson
gravity daze 2 in 2 months nioh last guardian
Cameron Perry
>>ps4pro there's no need for 4k bluray player as there's no market for it. you have to be kidding right?
4k blu ray and hdr SHIT over the 1080p versions in terms of raw bandwidth increases alone not to meantion expanded color space
Fuck having a shit 1080p screen if i had the money to drop on hdr i would
Jordan Diaz
you would need about 40Mb down to stream 4k if you live in america and don't have comcast or time warner you aren't getting that
Juan Gonzalez
Microsoft said the same about Quantum Break and then released it to steam
Samuel Jenkins
>Haven't upgraded from my shitty low quality Chinese knockoff brand TV from nine years ago >Went out and brought a 4k HDR-compatible TV because fuck it PS4Pro just around the corner >mfw the difference Shame there's not many visually stunning PS4 games that take advantage of it
Mason Gonzalez
Give it another 5 years.
Colton Gutierrez
Sounds neat, so why buy the console now, then?
Jason Williams
My 10 year old PS2 slim is still as silent as a trickle of running water, not even the periodic vent phases are loud.
Gabriel Gray
>"""HD""" streaming is cancer. Yet the brain dead normies have no clue and are perfectly happy with it. Plus if I'm going to buy a movie or tv show, I want to actually own it.
Jordan Flores
>4k hdr tv How are you watching the content?
Aiden Lopez
Hey man I'm cool with 1080p content on a bigass screen
I'm just ready for 4k when it does become more common
Anthony Kelly
but 1080p looks like ass on a 4k screen
Zachary Gomez
I want to get a PS4 Pro (the name is still fucking retarded) because I'm also going to buy a new 4k TV soon. I just hope it's worth it. And framerate is important, no matter how much you shitpost about it.
Kayden Bailey
You checked how much input lag your tv does when doing 4k hdr? Some tvs are absolutely HORRIBLE at this. shooting over 100ms. Even cinematic experiences get bad to use at this ratio.
Noah Howard
>literally everyones answer when i talk to them about it
"meh ill just wait til the PS5"
Adrian Perry
In the same way 480 looks awful in 1080p. It sucks, but you don't let it get to you.
Ayden Watson
It's bad for the squirrel.
Easton Young
>So it IS a way to reach higher resolutions like 1440p, but if the game have shit frame rate due the CPU, the frame rate will stay the same.
Well, so much for Bloodborne getting better FPS
Grayson Martinez
I have PS Now and I'm enjoying it.
Jack Kelly
>dont have 4K TV >dont have HDR capable TV >implying I'd buy one in the next 3 years
Why are they pushing this shit so much anyway? And why is everyone buying into it?
Wyatt Turner
Pretty much.
Of course, they could just well, optimize the damn thing and release a patch to increase the frame rate for all devices.
But that as likely as konami releasing a new kid dracula for PS4.
Jeremiah Rodriguez
>exactly the same >30% faster
Pick one.
Juan Perry
Some games will be better on your current tv, because devs have the freedom to decide what they will actually do with the extra grunt, and tomb raider for example will have a 1080p/ 60fps mode.
Jaxson Morgan
literally why does it not have qhd output
Dylan Butler
Great, it'll die even faster.
Wyatt Harris
That's the proper response. Why buy an entire console for a single GPU upgrade? Why not just release the GPU for your to install?
Robert Williams
50 inch 1080p TV's are cheap and you still need a gtx 1070 to max it. 4K just isn't there yet.
Anthony Walker
Yes, it's a huge difference my fellow buyers
Kevin Stewart
Waiting for it to be released so I can buy a normal ps4 dirt cheap
Hunter Rivera
You are retarded. Do you even know the prices of 4K TVs nowadays? Go look it up on Amazon. Even shit companies make cheap 4K TVs.
Joshua Bailey
>releasing an inter gen console honestly i hope it bombs, i hope it bombs so fucking hard, theres no way this isnt collusion between sony and Microsoft to rape us for every penny we have. its the same price as the original for christ sakes, why wasn't it released as the ps4? literally no reason other than collusion between sony and microsoft, they both release shitty under powered consoles, then they both release better ones for the exact same price as the originals, and no one can point the finger at either company and call them bad, and both companies make an insane amount of profit
Aaron Diaz
That's fine by me. I abandoned Sony after the shitshow that was ps3. Mind you I still have my ps3 and play it.
Hopefully we see massive price drops and I can pick up one for cheap to play single player stuff.
Brandon Smith
> I abandoned Sony after the shitshow that was ps3. Mind you I still have my ps3 and play it. >PS3 was so shit >lol I'm still playing my PS3 in 2016
>Hopefully we see massive price drops and I can pick up one for cheap to play single player stuff.
Be honest, you didn't abandon Sony. You are just too poor for the PS4.
Bentley Hughes
This is whats stopping me from upgrading
my internet is only 25mbit at the best of times so thats 4k streaming and downloading out
Henry Collins
I miss expansion slots on consoles, Im not buying an entire new PS4 for an incremental upgrade.
Noah Johnson
as someone who bought one literally days before the announcement i seriously cannot contain my rage. theres no way anyone could have seen this shit show coming outside of satire
Wyatt Thomas
No, that too. But I promised myself after the bullshit Sony pulled during the ps3 run I would do my best to not directly support the company.
I've been a Sony fan since psx. Sony has always been my console of choice, with Nintendo coming second. But I'm fed up with corporate bullshit in gaming.
So I'll wait til the pro is cheap and I can get it second hand.
And I said I liked the ps3. Its a great console with good games. Its Sony's handling of its company I dislike.
Aiden Watson
I too hope it bombs
but it will succeed and be a standard for the next few consoles Sonyggers eat every shit that sony spits out They're like Applefollowers but worse
Logan Wood
Besides all the rumors and Microsoft themselves doing it? No, you're retarded.
Jack Collins
>The only people that care about this are normal people that are enthusiastic about their hobby
Jayden Flores
I have already planned to buy it for FFXV. Since FFXV goes out on the 29th, there is no need to preorder. I'm not going to give them free interest on my money for no reason.
Levi Brown
are you retarded? not the entire human race is not the target audience for the PS4pro either you retard
Levi Roberts
well PS4 does not offer any other good games, games like Bloodborne and FFXV have better alternatives on PC desu
Ryder Stewart
>it's a nintendo shitposting thread
fuck off nintoddlers. Sony's gonna surpass your fischer price cell phone