SMT Thread

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Can't be worse than DDS 2's final dungeon

post under rated Demonfus

>Does this game require a system update to play?
requires 10.5.0U and up, you can look up which games are on which firmware here: 3dsdb.com/

>how does it stack up against SMT 4?
general consensus seems like it's an improvement overall, but a bit too easy even on the hardest difficulty

I don't remember the Sun being that bad

thanks for the link, will use it for future reference.
kinda let down by what you said regarding difficulty though, i was ready to have my butt destroyed but ah well. thank you anyway.

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Wait until you get to fucking Krishna.

Upon consideration, I'm sure Soul Hackers or Devil Summoner has something much worse

>send demon out to get fused
>comes back with resist gun and null gun

Finally done.

The endgame took forever.

I'm not going to go for the other ending for a while.

Is there a third ending? I assumed the game was made so long to make up for the fact there was only 2.

>your alignment
>are you happy with your official normal battle song
Light-Law:
youtube.com/watch?v=QNZR0cUONjo

Neutral-Law:
youtube.com/watch?v=r3IV1S5p4wI

Dark-Law :
youtube.com/watch?v=OFvx4159jsA

Light-Neutral: youtube.com/watch?v=_OurCPZ3ttE

Neutral-Neutral: youtube.com/watch?v=7UD3mpDfTIY

Dark-Neutral:
youtube.com/watch?v=sFCp2fPw8cM

Light-Chaos:
youtube.com/watch?v=yrs4hgWOfwg

Neutral-Chaos:
youtube.com/watch?v=AA6nG4P_u8E

Dark-Chaos:
youtube.com/watch?v=NQOcUklMghc

fuck this warp shit in the temple

aaaaaaaaaaa Ive been here for days

I'm pretty sure there are 4 endings, 2 of them being the early endings which are siding with either Lucifer or Merkabah. Was kind of hoping there would be another ending besides peace and anarchy but eh.

>Rescuing Flynn
>Fight Odin
>He does his Will of Thunder + Concentrate + Thunder Reign combo.
>2 demons dodge it completely and it only does a little damage to me.
>Battle ends and I was apparently supposed to die.

Maybe I've just played too many Megatens...

You can always go full SMTpleb and not use any of the good buffs if you want to be ravaged

aqiu384.github.io/smt4a-tool/ Found this if anyone needs it

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wut

When do you get the black card?

>DLC is """expired"""
What the fuck is this shit? I just want to fight Steven.

7/8 moon and level 76.

It's like that for whatever reason. All DLCs are out on Oct. 11.

ah im at 6/8 that explains it

fuk

SH's final dungeon wasn't hard, just boring with all the straight hallways

Am I supposed to kill Shesha?

Why does it give me a choice

Remember to bully your pets daily.

>You're a prisoner to these ideals someone else invented
GASTON BTFO

>implying you can kill Shesha
>ever

I barely used any buffs (just Concentrate, which isn't technically one) and got through shit by having access to almost every elemental attack; find the enemy's weakness, then exploit the shit out of it for what's basically a free turn. Occasionally, I'd use Rakunda.

Recently got Luster Candy, though.

Should I stick with Dark Sword or pick up Berserker God?

>there is more than 1 floor
Fug

Is there bosses or is it just the usual demons?

W-whoa. Is this dude in Apocalypse or another SMT?

WHERE DO I RESTORE SP

In the first floor, you fight Lucifuge and Beelzebub at the same time, followed by Lucifer.

Second floor, you fight Azrael and Aniel together, followed by Merkabah.

I kind of forget the ones for the third and fourth floors, since by that point I was numb and just mindlessly wandering through the place in hopes of eventually reaching the end. Pretty sure it's Metatron and Satan respectively.

WHAT THE FUCK

It's times like these I wish SMT went back to fucking first person

Is Chiaki's reason Dark or Light?

You don't have the App that does that? There's ones that restore your groups hp and sp.

2nd Brane A

Mom told me I can't commit deicide anymore, the neighbours got mad last time.

there are like a hundred warp points you unlock
there's one that lead next to the start of the dungeon where you can walk out and heal in ginza and another next to a heal station on floor 2

more than that I don't know I have yet to escape this madness

save up for the app that restores team MP

>Managed to reach the 2nd Brane after a few hours although part of it was because I got turned around and lost track of where I'd been for a good while before I stopped.
It's been like that for a few days now. Probably gonna pick it up tomorrow but I'm not looking forward to it.

>mfw Cosmic Egg

When does this shit end? It's not particularly confusing or difficult so far, but it's raping my eyes with these weird-ass colors and Evil Buddha's seal over the screen.

Is Norn not a special fusion in Apocalypse?

No, she's a lv. 69 megami. Onono-Ki is a lv. 7x or 8x demon too, and not a special, with Long.
Dunno why they dropped some special demons, far less join through side quests too, which is disheartening.

>tfw no creepy massivekados
>tfw they threw out the National Defense Deities that were in 4 in exchange for Tenkai with one hand praying

Feels garbo, man.

That's fucking stupid. The fun part about fusing them was having all the components with bullshit skills.

>Decide to try DeSuO again
>Input Name
>Manga canon name doesn't fit

the ride has only begun and I'm already bummed

On the bright side, Norn is one of the easiest demons to get Luster Candy on; she starts with it.
But they made it 80mp so it isnt' as easily abused.

There's 4, 2 are rehashes from IV.

Kill yourself my man.

Wrong thread and quote

Seems like you're in the right thread to me.

>Get macca DLC just to help with fusion.
>Demons give AP, grimoires and incense too.

Fuck, I don't have the willpower not to abuse this now that I have access to it.

Well, you're not wrong.

Any tips?

I know mag and dances are stronk
Don't do Naoya or Yuzu first
Ignore the faggot who bullies singer
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> Avian, Genma, Wilder and Kishin are the most valuable Racial Skills
>Put Tyrants, Fallens and Divine on your Healer/Magic nuke's party for MP recovery
user shared this with me. Anything else I should know?

I wish Yamato Takeru and Koga Saburo made it into the game at least. They were two of the better new designs for IV.

Just make sure Haru, the singer, doesn't die.
Some STR at the start is helpful since there's a boss that can only be punched to death by MC and having at least 16 opens up Phys Repel. You need a minimum of 8 for Holy Dance.

I feel like an idiot, what the hell do I do after i beat lucifudge

>that giant level gap between Fatal Sword and Berserker God

Sounds good. Thank you user. Haru looks cute, I'm gonna protect her smile.

>first fusion error
>I get stained-glass looking faggot
>lose my only posumudi
T-thanks

Does anyone have the gif of comfy nocturne guy?

Fuck Vishnu so hard.

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That's pretty similar to what happened to me. I was making a demon to shit all over Maitreya with and I got that faggot with none of the skills I needed. I ended up kicking fat budda's ass anyways, but the fight could have gone better.

god bless

>That fight with Merkabah
>Fucker kept instant kill my demons
The fight isn't even that hard, but geez it took forever because my autism demands me to keep reviving my dead demons.

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So are the challange quests really gonna be free or does the dlc shop just list them as free because they're not out yet

I demand Doki Doki ⭐ Toki pictures.

holy kek can you actually fuse this thing?

Ever since SJ yes.

>not using based Coo Coo

>or does the dlc shop just list them as free because they're not out yet

yes

atlus.com/smt4a/dlc.html

I WANT TO BREED TOKI

>I WANT TO BREED TOKI

>not wanting to kill her to death

Keep looking around. There's another boss you have to fight to unlock the seal.

I just found the stairs to go up. God I knew it was gonna be something simple like that.

>not doing both

how else are you gonna populate the new universe without a goddess by your side

hello user this is user should i buy the new smt thanks

Is Dagda the most unfortunate mother fucker in this game based on the peace ending?

Bunch of fucking cunts, RIP best deity.
I'm coming back for you buddy, we'll kill every damn god out there ;__;7

SMT2 has the worst final dungeon by far
>teleporter puzzles
>trapdoors
>dark rooms

But he is a god, believing in him gives yhvh power, so he needs to die along with those who believe in him.

That's fine, but this time I'm not going to burn him like a oathbreaking asshole.

>he didn't chose Massacre

Dagda is right about literally everything
Bondsfags are just losers with mommy fetishes who want Danu to step on their balls

in Peace ending *record scratch* is just gonna come back again and fuck everything up, you just wasted the chance to permanently fix reality just so you and you friends can selfishly live your pathetic short lives in peace

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>titan boss
>sukunda him thrice, sukukaja up thrice
>doesn't ever miss

>being so uncreative you had to look up the canon name and now you're mad you have to make one up

>tfw still have hopes of smt doomguy appearing as another dlc character

In edge you become a bald floating head down the road anyways, in waifu you get to crush demon puss.

I don't like my japanese games based on tokyo with non japanese names. Feels weird. I'm not very knowledgeable of said names either so I kinda just look up canon name or use names from shit I know.
Sorry it bothers you user.

Doomguy and Tamaki are too competent to need a wheelchair man come bail then out.

I always go for the most western shit.
Adam West, lover of Aigis and best door bar none to give an example.

I'll be honest. I pick bonds so I can fug demons.

Screw yhvh, scew a greater future. I am selfish and my Mara commands me to keep them alive.

Made me laugh really hard. Good job user, keep 'em coming in western.

Alright so we already had one spin-off game about Hindu gang wars, what if the next one is about Aztec drug smuggling?

Did I make the right choice in choosing Toki as my Goddess? I really only need Luster Candy for buffing, so I don't need Navarre, I have a good healing demon so I don't need Asahi, Gaston is Gaston, the only useful move Nozomi has is the one that makes everyone dizzy, but she rarely uses it, and Temporal Blade is great for hordes

Sounds like that Kara no Kyoukai movie about super weed.

Anyway, no fast forward in DeSuO?

His final fate in Massacre is still oblivion, user. You can't save him.

No because you're getting fucked by status effects.
Should have picked Hallelujah.

Reminder that SMTcucks parrot the opinions of the amazing banana fucker, rasen, and Infowars

Dunno who those guys are but if they're of the opinion that you're a faggot then I guess I agree with em.

>this guy always responds
It's been a year champ, everyone knows your samefagging yourself

Neutral/Neutral and Light/Chaos are the best

who, who and who?? and why do you keep posting this?

Saves you from buying the other DLC I suppose, save it up for the good shit

that's what Silent Prayer is for though

What

meant to reply to

>Favorite demon is acquired fairly early
>Fuck it, gonna pump levels and incenses into this bitch

Is it a safe bet to assume that Nanashi is going to get fucked at some point in his life and end up like Hero and Aleph?

>gonna pump levels and incenses into this bitch

>plebs forcing this memedungeon like its actually hard
It seems apocasuals never played SJ or even Nocturne.

MANDALA STATUS: SHATTERED

Nocturne dungeons aren't even hard

I don't even like Nadja really, but my dick has kept her in my party so far.
She's 26 now.

Are weapons worth investing in at endgame?
If so whats the best STR weapon i can get my hands on? I need to kill those fuckers mephisto and cleopatra, do they have a weakness?

I agree that Dj Scratch Universe wasn't hard. More like boring. I had way more problems and fun in SJ tho. Nocturne was kinda boring puzzles as well.

Aztec mythology is right choice.

What's at the bottom of Twisted Tokyo? I'm past the 3rd of the 4 Riders

Light and Dark respectively but I think Cleo has something to null her weakness or some bullshit like that

Yeah, I mean, who doesn't like girls coming out of toilets for mythology

Just like YHVH Universe right.

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>removed light and dark from 90% of my demons since i figured theyre useless endgame
FUCK EVERYTHING. Looks like i gotta shank them to death now

I want to eat corn with her.

As you can guess, the mother of all fiends.

Her thighs are definitely not underrated

That's what I figured, then I wonder what the DLC will add to it then.

why is she called scat hatch

Go for it user Im having a grand time

While I don't know where exactly I fall onto in the light-dark scale, I gotta say I'm quite happy with all the chaos themes.

Thats for true
Why do all representations have her in this kneeling pose, is it from the Irish mythology?

Killing gods you say?

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>you will NEVER experience the friendship of her thighs
The White were right. Let it all return to nothing.

Because that's wrong.

It's actually pronounced Sca-hock. sca (as in scan) hock (as in hockey)
Not all of them. But I'd be down for it for a Caster version.

>post yfw Gaston has awoken

I think he's from Maken X, another Atlus game.

I expected something to happen to explain his shit selection of skills, just not that.

>hold onto a demon for too long without fusing it off
>by the time I decide to fuse it off, I can't make anything good with it

Blood Ritual is kind of cool.

>tfw have the NINE by my side
>360 without RGH/Jtag so I can't play it
FUCK

Who do you carry over to new game with the DDS?

I carry le duel skeleton man

>get NINE
>without a modded xbox or jtag 360
Why did you even bother

>get demon at the beginning of the game
>lasts all the way to end game
Thanks Angel

>almost all of the demons in my stock are just fusion fodder
>none of them are proper healing demons
I normally just wait till I get Norn, but I should probably make something soon.

I won't though.

Guys I'm scared. I can't open the challenge quest tab, it keeps crashing the game. Is my file fucked?

What the fuck is his problem?

Collection since it was dirty cheap.
seriously, its fucking cheap

Inferior Navarre

He's a selfish cunty lawfag at first

Is Demonee-ho with Desperate hit as broken as it was in the last game?

>tfw you make an Orochi with Agidyne/Bufudyne/Zandyne
>tfw he lives in a wurld of STR

I wouldn't know if he's broken with it, but a strength-fag Nanashi is.

Understandable

Desperate hit scales of strength, even though it's an Almighty attack?

Is Hades Blast really the best multi-targer skill for STR?
You get it so early.

>that beautiful design
>that SMT I random battle
NICE

How the FUCK am I supposed to beat Shesha? I thought it was supposed to be a scripted loss the way it wiped the floor with me but I just came back right in front of it, holy fuck

It sure does.
Nope, I don't get it either user. It doesn't even say anywhere else, someone mentioned it so I decided to try it and lo and be-hee-hold I was doing thousands of damage.

You'd think it'd make more sense to just make a piercing strength attack.

Yes
Git gud. You know your normal attack on nanashi exploits its weakness right?

Buff, debuff, heal, and hit it.
Half his press turns are doing nothing anyway.

Acquire better demons

Which time are you fighting him?
First time is scripted, but you have to survive until he coils
Second time you can win; make Gaston your partner and attack with Ame-no-Habakiri for crit damage and press turns. Use your demons to heal/buff and use Almighty spells

>You know your normal attack on nanashi exploits its weakness right
>Str: 7

Also, I might as well give you a taste of what you are missing
>can actually choose main character sex
>law and chaos heroes or heroines depending on your sex
>equipment actually changes your 3d model
>literally only SMT where the player gets to be one of the nine alignments, although the routes are mostly LNC, with some variations based on light-dark-neutral such as being able to go full edgelord by killing your imouto by shooting her with a gun
>can actually tensei the megami Sophia
>best smt ost if you liked the old songs
>many smt1&2 references and actually connected to them plotwise
>alice's first 3d appearance with actual event
>many 3d models of demons based on older kaneko designs, and many that never appeared outside of NINE
>arena to fight other devil summoners
>law and chaos heroes/heroines actually help you in battle like Apocalypse, except they mostly do support through healing or buff/defensive spells
Honestly NINE was made as a complete love letter to SMT1&2 and it shows, being true to classic megaten design and also the first 3D """"mainline"""", while Nocturne tried to do its own thing which I didn't enjoy much for that same reason.

The first when Peacock and Power help out or rematch? Just have Nanashi whack it with excalibur and keep demons for buff and support. Use Gaston for extra damage since he gets free crits on shesha.

>Gaston talking mad shit to Asahi

Do you have ame w/e quipped because your str shouldn't be 7

>First time is scripted, but you have to survive until he coils
Oh shit, alright. I knew it was fucking ludicrous taking 100+ damage and doing

>he didn't go wurld of str

It doesn't matter
If you have ame no habakiri even with default str it deals like ~150 damage to Shesha with a weakness hit, and Shesha doesn't have that much hp to begin with.

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I'm an Inanna fag, not a Danu fag.

I'm pretty sure you can also fuse something with Tetrakarn by that point to especially ruin Shesa's day

>If you have ame no habakiri
I don't.

Light-Neutral sounds like I'm about to bum rush someone in the name of balance.

I want to be Toki's nushi-sama. I want to repopulate Tokyo with Toki.

Yes you do. It's a fucking plot item.

What a magnificent ass

>Want to play more SMT games.
>Can't stand handheld RPGs, but managed to beat Bravely Default after a year of on and off playing.
>Don't like the lazy looking combat that looks like paper doodles and endless menus with math equations shooting up randomly.
Nocturne and Persona ruined me for other mainline SMT games. Can't stand how shitty they look now, but I don't want to trudge through a game I'll dislike playing for a good plot.

>10 hours

I beat it in 2 without following a map. Come on.

>guys how do we pander to nostalgia?
>I know, let's put Pascal in the game but as a cute girl
>then have all the protags in a dlc

Ah, I think it's only for the second battle that you get it
Anyways first Shesha is easy, especially if you invested in Fusion Booster
First equip that phys resist armor from Ginza, then just use Tarundas and Rakukajas with Navarre as partner.
If you are able to fuse up to lv 44 demons, get Kukonichi with Tetrakarn and just use it every round
Or fuse a 46 Nebiros with Null Phys to eat turns
But basically it really is just a matter of using Tarunda, Rakukaja and having a demon with Media

She's a little girl.

Stop this sinful behavior or I'll strike you down.

>Merkabah will never call you filth

His voice is so good in apocalypse.

Fuse this handsome motherfucker right here (lvl 25)
set your partner to Asahi
remove all other demons

and no bullshit

set it to autoplay, watch and laugh as he just stands there and wins the fight for you

Yes but it's an ending he chooses in Massacre, after having achieved what he wanted.

>Best doggo will now forever be remembered as an indirect way to call the waifubait character a literal bitch

If you want to map it all out and find everything it is long as fuck

>Disobey
>He cuts your strings and you die

>Agree with him and tell party members to fuck off
>Game forces you to take them anyways
>Even has the balls to say "You were persuaded to take X with you!"

This shit is REALLY pissing me off. I hate feeling like I'm being railroaded this hard. Why the fuck even have those fucking options if there is no point to them? I've seen like 5 so far max and 3 of them were completely pointless as there was only one option you could pick or you died or the game just over ruled you.

>tfw I enjoyed Navarre more than any of the other partners

All the protags are on cartridge DLC for the West. This is actually a good thing because you can use hex editor to just put them in your party whereas the nips are fucked.

Me too, man. Me too.

She's so fucking sexy. She's like what fourteen? I'm not usually into characters like this but there's black magic at work here Atlus sacrificed lambs to make her

She's alright for a human, but I must breed Lucy.
I'm scared man.

I NEED TOKI

It'll be like a threesome

>Why the fuck even have those fucking options if there is no point to them? I

They actually will have a point, though.
During the route split they will decide if you will get to keep your items/demons.

Louisa is the better Lucy.

God, I'm so glad Lucifer looks evil instead of like Squidward now.

Does he carry that throne with him everywhere or is just glued to his ass?

S/he had not better not hoy.

Flat tho.

Wait what? That sounds retarded as fuck. I would rather have option that actually changed the story than that shit.

It's fucking LUCIFER.
He probably poofs it into existence whenever he needs to sit.

Now, why does he fight in the chair? Who knows. Maybe that's why he lost.

And that's a good thing.

I welcomed them all

then started acting like a dick head towards the end because I grew tired of them

managed to keep all my shit

yeah, the "options" are shit this time around

I've played SMT4, SMT4A, Devil Survivor 1 and 2.

Where do I go from here? Is FE X SMT recommended?

He probably thought he could show off and fight while sitting down. He is Lucifer of pride after all.

It is not recommended.
Play raidou.

I imagined the fight against him while playing. All he does is sit on his throne while my demon posse spams hama spells on him. He was a dazzling chill bastard while being exorcised.

>Is FE X SMT recommended?
What's that?

Has your dumb ass really not played Nocturne or Strange Journey yet

HELL NO
Play Soul Hackers. It's real fucking neato.

Guys
Why is Mastema such a bro in IV but a cock in Strange Journey?

>Why is Mastema such a bro in IV

>He fell for the ruse

>>literally only SMT where the player gets to be one of the nine alignments
majin tensei did that too, though

Because he's trustworthy.

In IV the options never felt "wrong" They felt like you were actively defining Flynn's character. The rout splits coming from them felt natural.

This time it feels like there are just to few of them and they dont particularly do anything. I've been a dick 100% and I get maybe one text bubble of a response then everyone is cheery and happy again. I tell that faggot kid to fuck off after medusa and the game forces me to take him. If I chose anything that goes against Dagda I either die and get a game over or he just stops me.

I would be enjoying the game a LOT more if the options just weren't there at all. As it is it actually feels like the game is mocking me.

MARUO
MARUO
MARUO

>If you use fundraise in *record scratch*'s world, Flynn helps you get money from the poor saps

That's what I thought too but he seems like the only angel I would want around in IV's universe.

They also kind of missed out on having Mastema interact with Nanashi since he's Aquila's reincarnation.

Same thing with Minotaur. Oh well.

Ya know, I can see why some people say this is a little bit too different than a normal SMT, but man I love your party characters. I thought I'd always hate Gaston but man he's one of my favorite characters.

Navarre > Toki > Gaston > Foxboy > Asahi > Isabeau > Nozomi
Character-wise of course

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>Look at Toki passionately when she comes back after Inanna fight
Only satisfying choice in the game

Why the fuck does Hallelujah only get 3 useless skills? Why would you ever use him?

They're actually very useful on some boss fights and he gets more than that later in the game.

He gets more later.

>Neutral-Neutral
Why's it so short though

>useless

When you get to Krishna you will begin to appreciate how good his moves really are

What are the best routes in DeSu 1 and 2? I'm a pleb and only finished Yuzu's and Daichi's routes
Help

desu, Nozomi not really changing much is fine because she's from the first game, same with Isabeau. Asahi on the other hand really needs to grow some balls or something. I just got to 7/8 does she ever get any better?

Like even after her dad dies she still feels like the same little girl you met at the beginning and doesn't feel like she's changed at all.

I have like 3 terminals besides the Home terminal in SMT4, how far along in this game am I?

Atsubro's and Kaworu's routes respectively.

oh and the fact that Laura Baliey couldnt come back for her really pisses me off and it makes her more annoying to me.

Fuck you Laura you were my VAfu, have fun being a dumb bitch in Queers of War

I think if you do any route that's not Yuzu in 1 you keep the +1 move bonus for NG+ so go for whatever you want. Not sure bout 2, I tried to do Daichi+ and failed.

Nah fuck Nozomi
The narc piece of shit

Nozomi's onee-san schtick makes her possibly the most one-note character in the game

Thanks brah,I'll do Naoya and Yamato after them

Yeah fucking Yuzu still has 3 mov and I don't know about 2 yet either

The worst part is she's a terrible onee-san. She fucks you over so hard for no reason, and her justification of "owning up to your mistakes" is horseshit because owning up doesn't make the problem any easier to solve and actually just gets you within a hair's breadth of being fucking executed.

Karen Strassman is better anyway desu.

Oh no, not Yuzu. You. If you start a NG+ after doing a route you, and only you, start with Move 5 instead of 4 which helps speed the game up a little. Might as well try Yamato's route in 2

>useless
Wait until the fight with the curry nigga, and you'll be glad that Hallelujah was there to save your ass.

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WHITEBROS WW@

>White is so retarded that White Flynn actively travels to other universes just to fuck them up and make sure they don't get WHITED

>Mfw telling Skins to kiss my ass when they call me for treason

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I still don't understand why some people in Mikado have single-letter names.

DELET THIS

DELETE THIS

Why is he so smug?

Maybe he's born with it

Have you gotten to YHVH Universe? It's shown that Flynn can solo fights by himself in like three seconds, I'd be a smug fuck too if I was that strong.

How fucked would Odin have been if Asahi wasn't holding Flynn back?

Cause he knows tokyo wants to give him the succ.

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Considering the fact that right after Krishna is beaten out of Flynn's body, Flynn gets right back up and bisects Krishna in one fucking hit.

Flynn is the Dante of the SMT series, he can do literally anything in cutscenes but does regular damage in battle.

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...Go on

Very considering it took three direct hits to knock him out.
Not just him, but his little assembly too. By that point in iv they're nothing to you.

>Devil May Cry 5 featuring Flynn from the Shin Megami Tensei series

>mfw just realized I had to let the fiends live 6 cycles to get top-tier drop rates
>already killed 4 of them
Fucking kill me. I wanted that Matador weapon too.

That'd be rad, seeing Flynn summon demons and using them to perform combos would be pretty cool.

*Dante smirks

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>Krishna goes to the loo

r8

Caked-up-clown/10

Whoa what?

Bestiality/5.

Boring. Nips made way more interesting mpreg pics with Hallelujah. Even R63 Nanashi x Dagdas armor dick.

Wait, what? Really?

That actually bothers me. They make a huge deal about how loyal his demons are because he's such a great master. So much so that it's the actual, in game reason as to why you no longer get a game over if he goes down; it just pisses your demons off. It's why they will search to the ends of the earth if they get ejected out of the party, and when they find you, they make it clear that no, they did not enjoy the time apart at all.

And then Apoc retcons all that and makes it so he never used demons.

oh shit what
the only one I haven't killed is Mother Harlot
where did you hear this?

Canon and also cute

Sorry, my reading comprehension is fucked up. You have to beat Twisted Tokyo 3 times in order to get those top-tier items.

>And then Apoc retcons all that and makes it so he never used demons.
He did use demons though, at the end of 4A he's so strong he just neglects them because he has Masakado's Katana, which we can assume is super strong.

>r63 Nanashi
You sure it wasn't just regular Nanashi in a dress?

Oh, well fuck I'm almost done with my first run of it, without the DLC floors. How goods the equips?

gamefaqs.com/boards/181823-shin-megami-tensei-iv-apocalypse/74344302

>inb4 gayfacks

>Matador Aiki Staff - Blunt Power: 517 (1 Hit) Target All / Panic +50 Str +50 Ag +50 Luck (no Low Accuracy)
Red Rider Chaos Sword - Sword Power: 985 (1 Hit) Single Target +90 Str
Pale Rider Reaping Blade - Knife Power: 280 (1-3 Hits) Single Target/ Instant Death +60 Str

Guns
David Stradivari - Power: 660 (1 Hit) Single Target +90 Dex
Trumpeter Angel Trumpet - Power: 96 (1-9 Hits) Multiple Targets +60 Dex

Accessories
White Rider Fantasista - Resist Fire, Ice, Elec, Force, Victory Cry +273 MP
Black Rider Constraint Scale - Null Physical & Gun, Critical Rate Up +273 MP
Mother Harlot Babylon Ring - Null all Status Ailments, Enduring Soul +273 MP
En-no-Ozuno Monastic Juzu - High Pleroma to All Elements +273 MP
Too good apparently.

Gayfacks.

>it's the actual, in game reason as to why you no longer get a game over if he goes down; it just pisses your demons off. It's why they will search to the ends of the earth if they get ejected out of the party, and when they find you, they make it clear that no, they did not enjoy the time apart at all
That's so cute

sept 3 get.

Holy shit that last accessory sounds perfect for my current build of Smile Charge/ Concentrate/ Elemental attack

>You can get the Skeltal horn
Aww shit

r u baka?

>Need DLC to unlock the lower section
Gay.

>one off
kill yourself my man

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(You)'re one off, user. Better luck next time.

>Look up
>See the hole Shesha made
>See angels flying around it protecting it

Damn this game adds some nice touches.

>High Pleroma to All Elements
>Almighty now counts as an element as well

see

Where do you fight the fiends?

>cucked so hard I don't even get to see the post

Cred Forums only has trip 0s and up, no other repeating digits

So is this shit better than SMT4 or what? I have no interest in repeating that experience.

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this thread is now a shitposting general

Gameplay wise yes absolutely. Storywise is subjective.

>Is FE X SMT recommended?
Very much so, literally anyone who says otherwise has not played it.

>Is FE X SMT recommended?
Not at all. Anyone who says otherwise is a shill

>All these retards who think you can get non 0 dubs on Cred Forums
This is as good as it gets fags

I-I don't know which one to shoot!

It's shit user

Play persona instead.

Strange Journey and Nocturne
after that, Soul Hackers and the SNES SMTs

Stick with mainline.

It's fucking garbage, don't play it.

Kill both your friends, something you can't do in Tokyo hip surgery.

Shoot them both.
*Record scratch* doesn't exist and it never has.

The only correct answers.

Are you really going to listen to SMT fans telling you not to play a game?

Yourself

I found it to be better than Persona, but just slightly

>purposely telling someone not to play a good game
what's your angle here? are you still mad that it's "not what they promised" or something? censorship shitposters? i don't get it.

Yes, its better than Apocalypse.

>good game
There's where you're confused.

Do you have to take Toki to continue the story?

>t. someone who probably only watched the reveal trailer and faaaiiiiyah emburem

Depends.
Decent RPG. Pretty good, atlus did well. Fun for what it is.
As Crossover is not that great to be fair, feels more like SJ in Third person with an FE skin. Idol stuff can be turnoff.
If you're getting it, at least pirate or patch uncensored.
Do what you want in end, don't be a weak willed son of man.

t. shill

So you're actually one of the 2000 people that's played the game? How does it feel being in a niche of a niche of a niche?

Doies anyone actually like the conversation system in these games? It is the definition of trial and error. I love everything else about the series but that shit.

Nigga play the game, the game have issues for sure but still a decent game.

feels pretty damn good to know the feeling of having played a legit hidden gem of a game desu

>trial and error
There's literally no better SMT feel than memorizing the correct responses to "Instant win" conversations, though.

Negotiations are some of the best moments for me. Apocalypse fixed a lot of problems with it from 4, and it feels like you're having an actual conversation with the demons now instead of a bunch of disjointed lines

SJ and devil summoners did it well.
Mainly the good thing about it is some of the responses demons have.

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even when i fail i fucking love it, it's so unique

Why didn't I get to fight the giant snake again after he cosplayed Flynn and ate Pascal?

Are you actually saying that it isn't a trial and error process to figure out those responses?

How were the devil summoner games anyway? Never got around to them.

I am still mad as FUCK that I dont get to kill her. I wanted her too look me in the eyes as I cut her down and understand that she was nothing. That she was worthless and it was all her fault.

>trial and error
When playing sj I savescummed negotiations and often I got into situations where every response made the negotiations fail.

No, I'm saying that once you figure them out it's satisfying to blast through demon convos as you know what the best answers are.

Almost everything in videogames is trial and error

Fuck you. Even for Massacre Nanshi it would be out of character to hurt the Asahi.

Pascal already knows it user.

I like the dialogue, and I'd be fine with it if it didn't actively impede gameplay. The vast majority of my deaths in the SMT series have been from choosing a response that I had no way of knowing was wrong, or was outright random, leading to me losing my turns and getting wiped.

My first error made me lose two good demons and gave me a demon I was already going to fuse filled with spells that were red. Pissed me right the fuck off.

>Even for Massacre Nanshi it would be out of character to hurt the Asahi.
Nah, you can berate the SHIT out of her multiple times during the game.

Nana might be the worst piece of shit in the series to be honest. If you chose massacre he literally used his "Friends" as tools to gain power and then kills them at the end because "muh Dagda"

first two are good. raidou 1 AKA devil summoner 3 had lousy combat but was still fun. Raidou 2 was significantly better and also had the best 3D models for the demons of any of the PS2 titles

>Almost everything in videogames is trial and error
Oh fuck off. There are varying degrees and you know it.

>Meet femme demon
>user what can you offer me if I were to join you?
>Friendship
>user are you joking!? I want something of real value.
Sometimes SMT can go fuck it's self.

>do this around Carina
>run this nigga until Grus while pimping him out with shit Ton of skills.

Kill the demons you don't want first. Don't try to negotiate if you KNOW you can't survive another turn

I got a mermaid six levels above me with my first fusion error in IVA

It's right though.

>female demon
These bitches are crazy.

Was he gay?

>I shall change my Megidola to Shibaboo...

You can "scout" the bosses.
So yeah I like the system in these games a lot.

>femme demon
REEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

"Shake my hand :)"
ok
"GROSS WHAT THE FUCK DON'T TOUCH ME"
???????????????????????

>Release

>put benis in vaginjo?
>both options piss her off

I played the game it's fucking persona for babies come off it

It's either a rock or a dog. Last time I gave a bitch a rock, she threw the shit at me.

Does Masakado ever get to do anything

Reminds me of this

>Doing great against Satan
>Final phase
>Fucker gets one crit and snowballs
>Only 2 demons survive and win the fight

Face-tank missiles.

He's your patron in Neutral ala Lucifer (Chaos) & Merkabah (Law) for IV.

If you mean Apocalypse, he's off with Flynn.

In apocalypse he fucks off and says "well shit, guess I don't have to do anything. Good job getting my katana though kid"

Jesus shit, Shesha sure stepped up his aesthetic game.

Yeah I mean in 4A. Flynn was seconds away from reviving him (his head, anyways) when Krishna shows up and no one's mentioned him since.

She knows what's up
She saw weakness in you

Months ago, I thought he would be one of the wise characters but was surprised how much of a jackass he was, I still ended up liking him though.

But that made her wanna protect me and she joined.

I literally did exactly that an hour ago
waste of 500k exp

HEEEEEEEEEEEE-HOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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YHVH's Universe is fucking eye cancer holy shit
>Music sucks
>Visuals are cancer
>Demons can't be recruited
>Bosses are rehashes
>It's another "warp hell" dungeon
>Kill me

At first, I thought he would be one of those useless party members but later ended up actually being useful.

Have you had your coffhee Cred Forums?

I'm not too bothered by it because i'm at 99 and I figure i'll need new demons to take on yaheyhey

but it still feels like a hollow victory
I was two attacks away from winning

That's the joke.

>Warp Hell

I know, I just wanted to post that image

Twenty five years living with demons and there's only one demikid.
I am dissapointed in you Tokyo.

>that Angel talking shit on Asahi's appearance

Good man. Good man

This bananacakes is not homesliced.

i'd homeslice nozomi's bananacakes

>tfw you will never be caught in the turf war between angels and demons

>you reverse fused your favorite with the skills and have all the stat up apps so your level 6 starter demon is a killing machine.

Based Pixie.

Everytime Nozomi opens her mouth in this game, I inch closer and closer to Anarchy route. She was better in 4 because we took her in small doses.

>Demon turns red and guns me down
>Enter combat
>Demon immediately freaks out
>"Its you! Oh god I dont want to die!"
>Flees
>Combat ends
>0 EXP

Well that was interesting.

I'd love to play it one day. Probably when Emulation for xbox 1 is viable. I already speak japanese so the hard part is done.

I like how they make you feel like an actual force in the world in SMT games. Demons will recognize and remember you, and in Apocalypse, doing quests will have an impact on certain towns and shops. This is the most "rpg" jrpg I've ever played

>tfw

Also I have enough cash to spend on Ginza's shopping district for a full set. Should I just bit the bullet for the Samurai set or go Goth? I liked Goth's look and the resistances aren't bad but Samurai covers more ground but it takes a bite out of potential cash for re-summoning demons for fusion attempts.

I wanted to go Demonica but I'm spent after all those runs looking at it for IV.

>Strength demon has negative affinity for phys skills
BUT WHY

The game is already easy enough as it is, so just waste your money on whatever you think look better. I did just that.

Oh shit that's pretty good

quick question what does Divine Cherub evolve into in this game? i thought he just ended at cherub but hes been talking extra after he levels up

>game crashes randomly
>im in the middle of yhvh's 3rd floor when it happens
Good. fuck them

Super Angel

I haven't had a twist in a game hit me this hard in a very long time. I just did that an hour ago and it's still fucking with me.

If you give Innana's feather to the Napaea in the hunter HQ you get armor with resistances similar to samurai, and it's cheaper too.

fusion fodder

>demon's highest stat is Dex by a large margin
>-4 Gun affinity
Fuck you too, Garuda.

>Norn wants to change Luster Candy into Bufudyne

>shoot down a skill change for amaterasu
>she basically demands flynn to fuck her
This fucking Megami.

Man. The very last dungeon is fucking huge.

>Don't have enough magic to open those green doors
Oh well.

>mfw

Goddamnit Atlus, first time a game scared me all year. Fuck yall

For me it's
>Don't have enough Strength and Dex to open those green doors
What's in em anyways?

The healing spring lady aka best and most loyal waifu

>Dominion becomes Throne
>almost every demon wants to change a skill to something you rarely use

The only solid change was Taimat to Ym. I still need to add the Fiends to my collection since I hear they changed the retarded encounter rate from IV.

Anyone else think the punk armor looks the most stylish? Nothing else so far has come close to looking as good.

Just some new areas with random chests and materials and shit.

Do we ever find out if healing spring waifu is a particular diety or something like that?

It's not nearly as hard now to get them

It's a 100% encounter rate as domain bosses in twisted tokyos through about 40 floors

Thank god phys pierce or my world of strength would be shattered in there

>Did twisted tokyo before cosmic egg
>%0 percent flee rate
>The mazes
>Couldn't even open some of the doors later on

At least it was worth all the suffering going though it.

I'm sitting here at level 50 with Cu Chulainn, Mitokotonushi, and Alice and fucking nothing can even touch us. My assist gauge hasn't moved for hours and its because everything just dies on the first turn.

Kek I did this at 27 on War. Partners OP.

Anybody got a list of the items you can buy with the gems and which shops have what?

>Beelzebub never has Death Flies as his signature move when summoned as an ally
Dammit Atlus

>2038
>still not following Maruology

i cant remember how to reach miyashita park in apocalypse

pls help

what quest

It was worth the effort just to hear Mara go on

Get out Mara.

My alice is level 56 but her skills are:

>Die for me!
>High dark pleroma
>Dark pleroma
>Dekunda
>Acid breath
>Makakaja

That are p shit since most fuckers are dark resistant. I'm already level 76 at camp ichigaya, I used some MA incenses on her, should I just refuse her with a better set, like a concentrate and megidolaon right now or should I wait untill I can get all the stat up apps and get a way to fuse megidolaon easily?

>The framerate during the YHVH fight

I never played SMTIV, but I'm beginning to think that I am better off just playing SMTIV Apocolypse.

Dagda reminds me of just how grump Omega-Xis was in Star Force. And the fact that they are both in the main character's smartphone.

I did that with Izanagi and Orpheus in their respective Persona games

Playing IV is handy for getting used to the plot and characters, but Apoc fixes the most annoying issues with IV like the map system and smirking.

Don't forget how partners work more in Apocalypse then 4's(As in they aren't as dumb)

>Using Agi against Minotaur
Walter, you're my bro but knock that shit off.

wew, turns out its only shit during the first phase of the fight

I'LL END IT THUS

BEHOLD MY DEMONS

Got to the final phase of YHWH and got wiped. Time for some of that free leveling DLC.

Just saw this moments ago. Jesus, I thought that was just a spooky fan art that got spammed here. I literally shit myself when that happened, no seriously, I was in the toilet while going through that scene.

>2spoopy face
>Back to kawaii desu animu style

I freaked the fuck out, but ended up laughing.

Bopped YHVH on Conflict on the first try
Flynn and Satan ate shit though, RIP

That massacre ending was neat
I wonder how prominent this kid might be in the series from here on

>A bunch of people getting together to worship dick

When did steam friend threads become a religion?

Probably a secret boss for SMTV

If I fuse out Alice with Dakunda, what does she learn when she has to learn that buff/debuff skill?

Actually, what happens every time you fuse a demon with a skill that was going to learn?

It's going to be dlc and you know it

wheres the best place to farm relics? or just get macca in general?

The skill is removed from the list of skill the demon going to learn.

The demon no longer has to learn it, nothing replaces it

if it inherited all skills then you can pass that demons moves to yourself as soon as it levels up once instead of waiting for whatever level it would have learned that last move

It won't carry over to the new demons skills.

The only other DLC I'm aware of is Stephen with Flynn, Aleph, Demi-Fiend, and Hero from SMT 1 from all the IV:Final's leaks. Also the beach dlc and so on. Did Atlus announce more is coming on the way after that?

I meant for V

Hopefully there won't be a V. There's no where left to go.

Oh yeah, in that case then I'm aware of that possibility also.

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Is Ashley Burch in this game? I fucking hated her in PQ and DaN.

I don't think so, no.

Calm down [record scratch]

TOUCH THE COW
DO IT NOW

Navarre became less of a faggot after dying.

Bonds end will be canon and YHVH returned pissed as fuck rather than Massacre's clean slate.

But since SMT is a multiverse you'll fight God Nanashi