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Do you enjoy watching Asahi get jealous over Nanashi?

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when does MC get the pierce passive? is it super late in the game?

also been thinking of my first run being DEX or STR which should i go with and what are the best skills for each?

Which girl wears swimsuits the best in Apocalypse?

Right before the final dungeon, I think. Also, I think it transfers to NG+.

Do you have the high res/upscaled version of those pics?

>died 3 times to that fucking heat wave spammibg hoodlum horde before remembering I had ma- stones
I want to die

>Get to Mikado.
>ANOTHER SERIES OF BATTLES WITH A BOSS AT THE END

HOLY FUCK I ONLY HAVE SO MUCH MP, STOP ALREADY.

You have seen nothing yet son.
It gets way worse.

The best part is that the actual voiced line goes on twice as long as what's in the written dialogue.

Have fun dealing with betatron.

>This fucking boss keeps casting Makarakarn

I don't know if there are any.

I don't have the individual portraits so I can't upscale

someone get me out of Tsukuji temple. This shit is ridiculous, how do I find flynn?

get magic torrent.

I need to go grind for macca to build a few more demons/buy some MP items. Holy fuck fuck YHVHs stupid first phase that just wastes resources then i have to wait 10 minutes to get to the real fight where the infinite strength shit is gay as fuck.

After the battle immediately after the alignment lock choice.

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You don't you will dwell there for the rest of your life untill you give in to Krishna's salvation.

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>every SMT thread now must start with waifufaggotry

Who's your Demonfu?

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isn't she 14

Nice job.

15, toki is 14

Doesn't look that good around her face but I doubt anyone will pay attention to that

whats with that strange hat while indoors

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>Azrael kills all my demons in one hit with Mamudoon
COME ON

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What a magnificent ass.

>Reduced to being the ultimate trash mob.

Fucking hate this shit.

Sorry, my heart and soul belongs to Tsubasa.

undine is super underrated

why is it im forced to think of Phi every time i hear her even though those characters are polar opposites?

No

Did they change how his stats were? Because in IV he was pretty damn good with resisting almost everything and having high stats. Wouldn't be surprised if they weakened him in Apocalypse.

Enjoy keeping that X button pressed. I had to do it twice since I forgot that when your partners break the enemy's turn they don't break repel spells.

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Tsubasa is for protecting.

It's like, i'm literally doing about 800 damage a hit with my MC. I can't hit him though because he just kills everyone in one turn.

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SMT is dead

What happened Cred Forums?

>around 4/8 moon so far
Does Asahi gets any better on the latter half of the game?
>acts like a spoiled cunt
>blindly accepts some old dude turned Odin offer to go into a random well and unleash whatever is in there when all the demons there were explictly saying it's bad shit; grew a conscience last second too late
>Runs in blindly and get herself captured which was the reason Flynn gets taken down, which was what she was preventing in the first place
>runs in blindly again during the DP invasion without her demon app, which probably is the reason her dad died

all in all every time she did something things goes tits up, how am I suppose to like her?

also
>not calling her dad Boss
too bad you won't get the chance now that he's dead, you spoiled cunt

Goro is the traitor lol

I want to kiss Asahi's feet

Please do not bully Pascal. She has a hard life.

Yeah.

This is not from massacre route.

That's not Pascal

This is Pascal

Good

She gets revived, luckily.

Spam magic mirror/makrakan every turn.

>luckily
I hope I can keep her dead

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>Mfw the invasion of kinshicho
>mfw they killed the kid who shows you his secret stash and they killed the old lady near your room /spoiler]

Do I still get free heals there?

50 Macca. Just use your room to heal.

No, he now charges 50 macca

Is waifushit the future now?

No you now have to actually pay for your food.
You can still go to your room though.

I'll only be happy if we can waifu demons.

>Mfw Shesha kill her right in front me.
I was planning to go the massacre route just so that I could kill, but what is even the point if I can't kill her myself.

Will we ever have xbox emulation to try out NINE?

I think SMT Imagine is pretty much the same and may get private servers in the future, hopefully.

Kill Nozomi.

>Imagine

Imagine is not set in a comfy virtual Tokyo, plus it has worse graphics and general design than Nine

Is that so? Is Nine a proper game or online?

I guess I'll have to make do with that.

Do you have to have played SMTIV to play Apocalypse or can I just jump in without feeling lost? I hear it takes place in the same setting as IV.

Nine is a proper game that was meant to have online sequel(it never got). user above talks about NINE

>above

in the different thread
Anyway NINE is a standalone game with story and stuff

>playing games that support sexist ideals
I bet you losers are going to vote for Drumpft...

I've tried SMT 1 and it was really tedious for me, so I had to cheese my way through sometimes. Unability to revive party members without help of NPCs was one of the main problems.
Out of other games in series I've played only Persona 1 and it was perfect for me in terms of gameplay.
Are other games in main series better than SMT1?

thank god japs dont give a shit about such crap

Can I can screenshots in game? I want to show off the stupid demon I've spent forever grinding for.

>game ends
>Walter is still dead

:(

Soul hackers - it's 9/10
Nocturne - 9/10(or 6/10 if you wont dig the aesthetics)
Persona 2 - both games are great solid 8/10

Sequel to SMT1 improves on what it has.
Majority of the other series have improved greatly, like nocturne, IVApocalypse, strange journey etc.

>Soul hackers - it's 9/10
Yeah, no.

NO ONE _______ LIKE GASTON!

Is he talking about our hoy boy Wallly?

wy tho

No thats Krishna

>Atlus makes Asahi extremely annoying for the Westerner's fanbase, expecting them to droll with the idea of killing her
>cuck them from that, not matter what you do, you can't kill Asahi with your own hands
>MFW
Sasuga, Atlus.

Mechanically every single game plays better than SMT1 except Ronde.

i am playing undub and she's literally perfect

make massacre end kinda hard for me

Great, thanks. I'm glad that that's the case.

You don't have to, but you should

I like her English voice.

I am the only one that wants pic related to be next SMT game bonus/DLC super boss is this guy?

Jokes on you I played it in Japanese and still wanted her dead. She's a shit through a through. Voice has nothing to do with it.

Based Shesha just saved me the time and effort.

This is your savior tonight

What? what has her voice, in any languaje, has to do wth this? i was talking of she in general and how she is a post-Persona 2 Girl in a SMT game.

the only thing that annoys me is the "demons are too strong" notice, otherwise she doesn't bug me at all. If anything I can't stand seeing navarre's ghost ass.

like I get it I'm a little out of my element but I'll be fine stop fucking warning me about shit I can determine for myself fuckers aren't even that much stronger than me anyway.

I am sure mind fuck flynn is more powerful than sesha flynn, fucker can fuck directly with the amala network, something only steven could do.

You're implying japan likes her. Japan does not.

So the Neutral paths are a toss-up between 'lobotomize Dagda' and 'lobotomize Flynn + a companion of your choice', right?

now that I think about it though I can't fucking stand flynn's voice, sounds too much like the cloud district fucker from skyrim

>Atlus makes Asahi extremely annoying for the Westerner's fanbase
>Westerner's fanbase
Shouldn't have included that part then, cause she's a persona girl in the JP version as well.

>Hoy's manga gets fulled scanlated and translated
>nowhere in all the internet is Jonathan's manga
Hoy is best boy, but i wish to know what White Flynn does in good boy's manga.

I thought japan liked her...

Everyone says the "The demons here are too strong" which does annoy me since I'm wiping the floor with the fuckers left and right.

Fucking Gaston won't shut up about "B-but samurai are supposed to be strong" after every single battle.

So who's the stringest smt protagonist now?
Judging from smt4a they make flynn seem like crazy hot shit, but Nanashi ends up beating record scratch doesn't he?

Don't you beat youtube.com/watch?v=AOx1L7ctC4o together with flynn?

Space Marine, because he never fails in any timeline

You now fight Metatron hordes in the last dungeon

I was there with /smtg/ when Apocalypse first came out with the beach DLC in Japan.

Almost every single post on Mii Verse was about Toki.
Any post that didn't involve Toki was about Hallelujah.

Japan loves Toki, not Pascal.

>MFW Betatron's hordes

What are their mangas about?

>Annoyingly pushy
>Directly responsible for the divine powers being a thing
>tries to avoid owning up her crime
>useless
>actively impairs you a couple times
>Never minds her own damn business
>disrespects her father
>Toki is way more supportive of you and actively refers to you as her master
>Nozomi is infinitely more responsible and is partly the reason you can have a happy ending at all.

Nobody likes her but hipster Otakus. She is quite literally worst girl.

Yeah, japan loves Toki

I like his VA in 4

To be fair, Toki is perfect

Is there anyone who doesn't like his VA in IV?

basically, two timelines where Flynn doesn't exist and this fucker arrives to mindfuck Walter and Jonathan into being chaos and law respectively.

I'm a personafag and have played Ds1 and 2, Nocturne, DDS 1 and 2, SMT IV, Strange Journey, so fuck off

Of course they do, Toki is a literal fetish character with nothing else going for her just like those moeblobs
>start as edgy "I'm going to kill you, must perform my duty" robot assassin
>almost immediately becomes "I want your cock, Master" sex slave
and this is not even an exaggeration, the only redeeming moments about Toki is when sealing the aether jars and showing she's more than just an assassin, too bad seconds after that she becomes a fetishblob

>No fully 3d SMT after Nocturne
>Nocturne itself is nothing like SMT 1-2
>4 is mobile game

forever suffering

>arrives to mindfuck Walter and Jonathan into being chaos and law respectively.
Why?

I'm extremely late to the party and only now started smtiv
I assumed everybody hates the dub

Sometimes a good fetishblob is all you need

Because he decided that the white were right and you know what happens, then he became some sort of ascended being and now travels to universes where he doesn't exists to make sure Hoy goes chaos and Good Boy goes law

>I assumed everybody hates the dub
Nah everyone loves hoys.

Last time I heard, people regard it as one of Atlus' best dubs along with Catherine.

>hating the dub
Nigga, are you for real? have you heard this guy's voice?

Sounds interesting. I'll check it out.

It's a good dub, hold some characters. 4's problems are the shit mechanics and TERRIBLE redesigns from guest artists.

>never played an smt game
>play nocturne for the first time
>not too much trouble, run into a few close encounters here and there but so far I manage my battles well
>get absolutely demolished by the 2nd boss

Well fuck, time to buckle down and get serious

but i wanted to kill pascal myself

>I assumed everybody hates the dub
Nigga, IV has a great dub.

Hell, even the dub to Apocalypse is pretty good.

read the chain

>Getting bodied by specter

Oh man you're in for a treat.

So do I need to play IV to understand IVA? I dont really dig that samurai shit IV has going on.

So he went white ending and when he survived he thought welp I am gonna fuck some worlds up?

>MFW i realized that Odin is fucking Albert Wesker
No wonder i went though his obvious trap to release fedora nigga, nobody can resist that voice!

So since Asahi got revived by Dagda, why didn't Dagda revive Navarre as well?

you need to kill yourself

The music is too good in Apocalypse.

>Survived
How is this "survive"?

So I got IV a while ago, made it down to Tokyo without any real problems, but I've hit an obstacle
The map breaks my mind, I don't know where anything is

>I dont really dig that samurai shit IV has going on.
Just play it the reveal will blow your mind if you don't like the samurai stuff.

Matador?

Try to fuse some demons with sukukaja or Sukunda.

Or if it is specter like says, then yeah prepare your anus.

he still exists to fuck shit up right and the whole point of the ending was to make everything stop existing?

Print this.

Boss 2 is specter. Matador is 3. Technically 4 if you count Troll as a boss.

Except NINE is fully 3d with shit that took forever to reach mainline and is a literal SMT1&2 love letter
>actual gear changing your model so you can play
>player character can be male or female
>law and chaos heros/heroines depending on your sex
>they actually act like waifus and husbandos apocalypse style longing for your cock/pussy
>nine alignment axis for the player character, with 9 different normal battle songs based on your alignment
>cyberpunk
>tons of smt1&2 references and actually connected to them plotwise
>alice's first 3d model with actual alice event
>tons of 3d demon models that were never seen again, some based on the old designs
>can actually tensei the megami
>can be edgy in Dark aligned routes, far more than Massacre and do shit like shoot your little sister dead because she is unclean filth not worth of LAW
>gnosticism
>amazing music, lots of smt1 remixes for that classic megaten feeling
too bad it's forever untranslated AND needs either modded xbox or jtag 360

He regretted going white and that only destroyed one universe anyway.
Don't you understand? because the multiverse, the white weren't right, all was pointless!

Yeah here's hoping some day xbox emulation will make progress

There's always emulation.

h-haha.

Yes it's kinda late. Around level 85-90.

So because he failed to erase everything he is just going to be a dick and fuck up other worlds?

Yeah I tried using actual maps, but it still doesn't work in my head

Equip elemental bullets.

I have sincerely lost hope.
And that's not counting the fact NINE has less translation probabily than even Giten Megami Tensei or Ronde
Heck even with Giten you can at least use one of those machine translators to play meanwhile like with visual novels.
And yes I am actually mad it's been like 15 fucking years and still no xbox emulation

Maybe they'll release it again for 3ds or Vita. I mean nobody though we'll ever get Soul Hackers.

To be fair, it took a long time.
We still haven't got original devil summoner.

>Fight YHVH
>Walter and Jonathan start saying lines from SMT4
>"Sorry about that!"
My dick

I also forgot, you can have 5 demons in NINE with the alignment heroes or heroines supporting you in battle like in Apocalypse

This was in NINE and just now people start to complain about waifus?

The middle one looks smug as fuck, so I'll go with her. Left can fuck off with her boring embarrassed tsundere shit. Right looks like a normal big sis type.

Well yes, because literally nobody played NINE
Which is why people were excited about armor changing your model and partners assiting you in IV despite that being in NINE like a decade ago

You've got it backwards

I'm basing it on looks alone. I haven't played the game.

>Walter and Jonathan come back for the YHVH fight in Bonds despite the game telling you they're dead very early on, absorbed into Lucy and Merk

How?

Satan is how

Left: Derere loli obsesses with your main character because of a demon
Middle: Childhood friend that has grown up with main character. Rather ordinary
Right: Team mom that gives lots of lectures. Sells you off a bit

Because Navarre is a joke character.

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>because of a demon

Toki wants Nanashi's dick regardless of Inanna's influence. She wants him to be her king in her WORLD OF STR.

She gets good at level 50

Bonds ending seems like the best one for me.

There's been too many JRPGs lately with sad endings and I'm kind of over it.

What's the difference?

Spears

>they used her old design for Apocalypse
REEEEEEEEEE

Mastema mask dlc when? I fucking love that thing

Alice, Moh Shuvuu and Pixie are all top tier cute.

My man

>Persona 5 uses her Nocturne model

Game where we can play as Mastema when?

Do you guys think Flynn and Isabeau fucked daily in Apocalypse?

>They used blue titania again
JUST

Daily reminder that, thanks to incenses, pic related is now viable.

>buy top level of everything black market vendor has
>50k macca left
>leave
>NEXT TIME BRING MORE MONEY

Could be worse I guess. Could be Saturn emulation.

You forgot Nadja, lolicon

Caster growth demons are actually preferable now, since everything costs a fuckton of MP and if Nanashi or two demons at once go down you're fucked anyways.

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>MFW "the demon kissed you"
It sucks asahi doesn't react to this.

Sounds like you need to bring more money, hunter.

>SMT5 has it so you start out in Lawfag "paradise"
>Mastema decides to be like "hey man you know there's shit outside right? Why not let me give you some power and shit so humans can be free again, Trust me man I'm an angel :^)"
>Get booted out of Lawfagland because you were summoning demons with you Mastema powers
>Huge culture shock because you're used to everything being so nice and now it's all shitty

I know that seems too much like 4 but I'd like something like demifiend but its an angel instead of a demon, and Mastema seems like the big enough of a faggot to be the one to do it

How do I complete the first VR mission?

Kek

So he is looking for a good end or something?

To be honest, we don't fucking know, just make sure hoy goes chaos and good boy goes law.

BRING MORE MACCA NEXT TIME

Rakukaja on Nanashi & Parvati, Tarunda on the other demon
Parvati and the other demon die but who cares
Rakukaja again on Nanashi and just spam attack

So do I finish IV or go into Apoc?

>Get AP dlc because fuck it
>it also gives incenses and trash vendor crap
For fuck sake, atlus, why you temp me...

Finish IV.
How far are you in it?

They actually all do that.

But i didn't know, i thought it was AP only.

>No option to tell her to kill herself

Such a missed opportunity.

>buying the cheat DLC

So who'd you pick for your megami?

This is the state of modern gaming. EVERYTHING is waifu shit now. Get used to it.

A girl, i am not a fag.

>Toki is 14
>14
>FUCKING 14
>Half the game she looks like shes going to fuck you to death at any moment

Jesus fuck.

Only the best vessel for birthing all of humanity.

>buying

Well if you want only AP items, avoid any battles with the Mitamas, or only fight the blue ones.

Red give exp items
Yellow macca items
Grey incenses

Not gonna lie. I would let him fuck me.

>Just got to King Frost

This game is going to get nuts

I can't help myself, also, the yellow is a fucking pain.

Hathor is cute! CUTE!

Weak to almighty. or you can just put the difficulty on paradise for mitama farming

Why miitamas cannot be use to power up ddemons anymore?

Yellow are weak to almighty. Just have Isabeau in your party.

Its not the same. Nozomi is a bitch but is compatent and stands by her convictions even if she knows it will only cause trouble.

Asahi is just fucking retarded and actively fucks up everything for no reason other than "Durr we gotta be famous!" In fact she is so bad I wouldn't be surprised if she is a meta joke of the developers. That they made her unlikable and then INTENTIONALLY made it so you dont get to be the one to kill her just to fuck with you.

>MFW i used my pixiv to create a high pixie
Is necessary for alice but still...

>this faggot smirk charges every turn to deny you extra press turns
Brought back Minotaur memories

Europe when?

Holy fuck I need sleep. I just stared at this pic for 5 minutes watching her face mutate into a demonic dog thing and back. Then I noticed it wasn't a gif.

I always hate having to fuse that ugly dyke. Should have gotten a QT redesign for this game.

>Fused mermaid
>Switched to gun rounds
>Swapped in Navarre

Easy mode after that, but damn snubbing my press turns was annoying

Asahi cause it seemed fitting.
Having a non-demon healer was nice too.

I HOPE YOU LOVE STATUS AILMENTS!

>MFW this artist doesn't do anything and just disappeared
Why? its style was beautiful and so full of life.

Dammit, Pascal is adorable.

That's in dog years though.

I hope you love Hallelujah

>Tfw you cuck Flynn of his ending and his status of savior

Play raidou 2

Just got to the underground base with the Black Samurai.

Which SMT game do I play? I have a 3ds, can emulate ps2, have a computer, etc. I wanna try out OP's game for example

Only the best

He doesn't seem to care, they built him a statue too.

I seriously want to fuck his tight little half demon butt.

Why is he so perfect?

SMTIV is a good place to start.

>Hey, qt. Don't mind if I take all your hard-earned macca away, don you??
>MACCA BEAM

Smt 4 gave you a pet monkey and 4a a pet dog.
What will 5 give?

Cool. I shall do such.

Just go grab spriggan and get Magaon from him you ninnies.

>cute demon cats and dogs steal your macca now instead of the ugly eggplant looking fuck
Atlus is cruel.

So the PS2 games are
>Nocturne
>DDS1&2
>Persona 3&4
>Raidou 1&2

DS Games include
>Strange Journey
>Devil Survivor 1&2, which both have better 3DS versions, so you really shouldn't bother with the DS versions

3DS Games are
>Soul Hackers
>IV & IVA
>Devil Survivor 1 Overclocked & 2 Record Breaker

Just pick one and you'll be fine, just know that the later in the series you start, the harder it is to go back to earlier games, especially after Devil Survivor where they made fusion way less tedious

Well they are demons.

Is the game crashing for anyone else?

Why are demons so tsundere

Nice, I'll screenshot this.

I've played Persona 3/4.
What about Persona 2? Apparently it's great. I tried emulating it once but it didn't work out. If it really is so great, I'll try another emulator.

I just got to Nozomi betraying you like a cunt and haven't even had a slowdown. But looking at the threads you arn't alone.

Are you using a NEW3DS?

You mean the pieces of armor that the black samurai wears?

Shit man you're a long ways from finishing the game, so get to it.

Ever wonder when Jesus is getting in an SMT game? I'd imagine it would be something like, someone steals a part of YHVH and uses it to impregnate a virgin (aka you) and then she gets blessed with baby Jesus and depending on your faction when he is born he either becomes: Law: Mega Death Christ, Chaos: Anti-Chirst, Neutral: Messiah Christ that lets you save the world.

user, aleph already exists.

Nope launch O3DS.
I lost about half an hr of progress but christ am i angry since its been happening more frequently endgame

>Jesus in an smt game
So smt 2?

I'm thinking that is probably why.

>bought the Macca DLC
>Mitamas show up and drop point cards, grimoires, and incenses
I mean, it's nice, but why?

Are you using an actual game card or pirate it?

>Bind Voice
Also has the advantage of triviliazing 99% of random encounters, especially on apocalypse difficulty as it removes the retarded accuracy penalty

Literally SMTII

Pirated it

What is Mastema's deal doesn't he work for record scratch why did he seal the angels?
I never played SJ BTW.

You can't use Bind Voice if they ambushed you. Happened to me twice in a row.

>pirate
>O3DS
hmmm....

was Aleph a son of YHVH and a son of man? I haven't played 2 in awhile.

Literally Artificial Jesus.

Game card

Artificial Jesus created by the Angles because they got tired of waiting for the real Jesus

Aleph was just artificially created in a lab tube to be the messiah as the archangels save for Gabriel grew tired of no news from YHVH and decided to take matters into their own hands while also worshipping their own fake blue YHVH

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>smtiv
>get bread for breakfast
>dude starts talking about literature
>ok
>finally get the bread
>burroughs butts in
>LOOKS LIKE THE QUEST IS GOING NICELY
wat

Borroughs is socially awkward

>miitamas
They had weaknesses? All I did in IV was max out Heaven's Bow on a Dex build. Worked for all of them.

I really miss Burroughs. Dogda is horrible. I want to hear Burroughs cheer me on and congratulate me again.

When do I fucking get Myrriad Arrows?

Dagda's great and better than Burroughs.

Finished Apocalypse earlier this week. Really fun game and a superb improvement over SMT IV. Gave it a 9/10 despite the writing being even cheesier than even Persona 4.

I miss Burroughs' congratulations.

Not at all.

He's completely better in every way.
Angry Irish Smartphone God > Bland Black and White Gauntlet Assistant

I think my Asahi is broken. She is no longer healing me and just normal attacks everything now. The fuck?

oh sheet how to get her?

Heads up for all you fusion fags out there. If a demon fusion results in a fusion accident, the demon can pass demon exclusive moves onto other demons.

>Matador x Shiva fusion
>accident into Sraosha
>Has Andalusia on itself

Pretty rad trick if you wanna go crazy with customization.

lv99 dlc

you broke her heart...

too bad andalusia is shit compared to the skill uriel had in IV

>wanting to kill doggo
>something so despicable the game figures even edgelords wouldn't do it

Scum

>When you get the white end and she congratulates you

>Second mission of IV
Holy fuck why are my demons getting one shotted by trash mobs holy shit.
Inb4 gitgud

checked
They were right after all

Pascal would have probably joined you anyway, even when mistreated she's still your faithful hound.

Basically Mastema wants to be the number one guy to the lord. He can't do that if the angels are making YHVH happier than he is, so they had to get sacked, and since he's kind of a coward find another way to get shit done.
I also like to consider how the game would of turned out differently for law/chaos if he decided to do the same to Gabby that he did to the other angels. Of course he had to be a cock, so now everyone who isn't law is paying the price.

Nigga I didn't even have trouble that early
And it was my first smt

Ho this nigga voice sounds in english?
>youtube.com/watch?v=wwV9xMCMlbw

It applies to everything though, so you can some really danke shit like Magic torrent on somebody who can really abuse it.

either fuse or level a bit

>dude starts talking about literature
What was the whole deal with dudes turning into demons when they read literature?Did Lilith put some cookie chaos magic on it?

I want to play fetch with her and live hand grenades.

Between her and the insane level of railroading the game is ruined.

I'm not that far into the game but my guess is "Literature" consists of necronomicons and shit

Abuse the smirk mechanic. Honestly, I only had difficulties at the minotaur. After that the game eases up for a while. Use elemental weaknessespecially and fuse demons with elemental spells and buffs/debunks. Do not go physical.

More like if Asahi didn't die then massacre wouldn't even be an option, Nanashi wouldn't hurt his imouto.

Certain DLC in final explains why that happened:it turns out all the humans in mikado are result of the angels experiments and they carry something called "demonic gene", literature was the trigger, it made the casualties so mad that gene activated.

No vit stat.

Never get ambushed or expect to wipe.

Sorry that wasn't really meant for you, I just quoted you because you were kind of on topic about it.
I put spoilers on it so that it wouldn't spoil you,
but that doesn't help if I quoted you.
Sorry if I ruined it for you.

No, it's books about the past. Educational books and shit. It's why the poorfags started to get Buttmad and why the Baker was about to digivolve into Marx. The book talked about systems of government, economy, and other stuff too.

>expect to wipe.
It is not like there are any consequences for a team wipe.

Has anyone extracted Hero, Aleph and Demifiend voice files from the DLC?

I turned spoilers off a long time ago because reading black bloxes for puns gets annoying really fast. Funnily enough I talked to that guy in Kiggiwhatever forest and he just told me they held a Sabbath and started transforming into demons 2 minutes before you replied to me.

I'm kind of retarded so the baker flipping his shit went completely over my head

I like blue titania.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't expect it.

Also gay love stories Isabeau was all over that.

IV is hardest early on because of the lack of VIT. It's absolutely vital that you get buffs and debuffs and all elemental attacks early on to abuse weaknesses.

Game gets a lot easier after the early stage though.

>fight Issachar
>try to recuit him
>doesn't work
>ask him for money
>gets absolutely furious
smtiv is silly in a weird way

>IV is hardest early
This
after Naraku everything is smooth sailing.

That Ose though

I don't remember, him being hard, but I did get a flashback of where and when you fight when you said him so he probably was so difficult that I blocked him from my mind.

Also another question when does that bombass trailer song play in Apocalypse?
Is it During Record scratch, Vishnu or Satan?
youtube.com/watch?v=oY0wuIszPa4

Vishnu

I NEED TOKI

>black samurai wears a demonica

Toki doki doki.

Good news for you, You can wear both the black demonica and the original demonica

Brehs the Apocalypse talk made me go back to finally continue with IV.
I'm at a point where I want the game to end but I somehow got myself the Neutral route and they want me to do all the sidequests. This sounds beyond tedious, is it worth doing it myself or should I just watch the ending on Youtube?

Yeah but why does it exist and why does it sound so cute and why is everyone the demons
I never played a Mainline game before only the waifu spinoffs is this shit normal

I dunno mang, it's a lot of shit

Flynn's pre-incarnation is doomguy after he grew a ponytail and Akira is Anthony.

Most of the side-quests involves are easy. You just have to find them, and there's a guide for every one you need. Apocalypse has a nice bonus for beating the game though.

Legion can use sexy dance for fuck sakes.

>Isabeau likes reading gay romance novels
>The Japanese version of her bio just says that she's taken to reading stories of women dressing as men lately.

Did I miss something, or did the localizers pull "gay" out of nowhere?

>Yeah but why does it exist
It is only an easteregg as far story go so you don't have to worry about playing SJ to play this.
Why everyone turns into demons that I don't know some user said that it gets explained in one of the Apocalypse DLC

>too lazy to waifu2x

I played only a little bit on SJ, I'm more surprised since they call her black samurai, I don't know what I expected

>black samurai,
I was confused as well, but I think the term Samurai just means someone who can use demons in mikado.

So it's like "From The New World"?

Because Satan is made up of Lucifer and Merkabah, and each of those had Walter and Jonathan's body/soul within them.

He just tossed them out of himself.

Impregnate Merkehba.

It exists because in Strange Journey it's something of a power suit member of a international task force wear. Said task force is going ass deep in an unknown anomaly that's eating Antarctica inside out. Not sure what you mean by it sounding cute but it's short for "Demountable Next Integrated Capability Armor".

The reason everyone is demon is Japan's defense minister secretly created the Demonicas, as well as the Yamato Reactor. He also created a project called "National Defense Divinities" and all 3 were made due to fear of other nations controlling Japan, specifically America. Only the Demonicas were government known. The reactor produced unlimited energy to provide for Tokyo but in actually it was drawing energy from the expanse, or basically where demons are from. When God's Plan, or Armageddon via ICBMs and Masakado created the ceiling to protect Tokyo from it, it locked Tokyo in with all the demons drawn to it from this reactor. That is why they are all the demons.

TL;DR: Dumb fuck xenophobic Senator makes everything worse trying to protect the country

I was talking about the Demonica wearing Black Samurai in SMT IV with a female voice.

But that TL;DR sounds interesting, I should play SJ some time

>You need to fugg that old man's face on her stomach in charge of impregnate her.

Would you?

It's good if kinda grindy since it uses Etrian Odyssey's engine so it has a lot of design choices from it. Definitely worth a play.

>not Lucifer that host Hikaru and Walter

I think I'll grab myself a guide and see it to the end. Until Deepsilver puts out Apocalypse in Europe, I'll then play Strange Journey, Soul Hackers, or Nocturne (which is the only other one I started at some point). Or I'll beat Etrian Odyssey IV.

That thing is pure teeth, I can't do it man!

Yeh.

The only Lucy I'll fug is Louisa Ferre and maybe Imagine Lucy.

why does asahi always look so smug

She's the type of bitch who thinks she is playing with a stacked deck only to get super wrecked when she loses.

EO4 and Soul hackers are probably the easiest of the four, then Nocturne and Strange Journey if that means anything to you.

Worked differently for me. He just chucked all his macca at me and I got a shit ton(at that point in the game). I still want to try a run where I try all the different dialogue shit on bosses and stuff.

can you fuse mitamas for easie skill transfer in this apocalypse?

In the YHVH first phase do you need to actually hit him, or is the demoralizing thing enough?
My first attempt I was out of mp when I got to the second phase

Which hole do you stick it in?

From what some user said, the manga she was reading involved some bloke fucking another bloke in the ass, which is the character she was interested in. So I guess they are just focusing on two different parts.

That's just a dog acting like a dog.
So do I get to enter Mikado in this game?

yes

...

Ye

Betatron go back to bed

Lewd

>-remain true fans of ATLUS and SMT, do not throw ragefits over childish subjects
Every time

as if betatron would have any problems with record scratches idea,

steals turns

They made a reference to her reading a manga called Rose of Versailles which is essentially a story about a woman dressing up as a man.

Is Flynn the GOAT SMT protagonist?

No, that would be Baphomet.

When is Asahi going to fuck Isabeau?

So the localization just made her a yaoi fangirl for no reason then.

She's just an excitable puppy user.

Which is the best partner to revive for edgelord Nanashi?

So when is Asahi going to hump Isabeau's leg?

But non goat Baphomet is superior

Miss "I have hated you ever since that day when you refused to help the wounded" Bobo

probably doggo.

Is Gaston x Nozomi canon?

Toki durr

>Lewd Hunter is dead

NOTHING MATTERS ANY MORE

Wow, so I was bored and was looking at the stats of the demons of Nocturne and reverse-calculated them for level 1 to see which demon was the strongest stat-wise. It turned out to be Uber-Pixie. At level 1 she would have an average of 14 points in all stats whereas Metatron would only have 10.

I did not expect that.

She almost does every time they meet.

>I'm fine with whatever you choose
>choose Massacre
>I'm not fine

Pixie is GOAT forever.

>12 boobies

yes

Pixie is the heroine for a reason user, and in two games.

Would you stick your dick in those boobs?

Yeah, I can see why Demifiend keeps her around.

She wanted to be with you. Massacre is pushing everyone away, even if Dagda revives a lobodamized version of one of them in the end.

So is doomguy the fairy king and high pixie his queen?

>Pixie in a Demonica
Cute.

>that Baphomet design
Why?

WOULD I?

It's better than having the implications of her liking women that crossdress

>Congratulations I guess?

It's just Kaneko's take on Baphomet from Nightbreed back when he actually drew inspiration from movies and pop culture

>Better than implications of Isabeau being into reverse traps

This is what happens when you try to fuck demons.

I was thinking more along the lines of people thinking she's ashamed of being gay

>Hmph, eating the very thing you hunt...
>This is way it ought to be. This is the law of nature.
Does Dagda want to eat gods?

Let's be real here. Every one of us would still do it.

Would you?

I never quite understood this.

Why is he a lawful demon?
Aren't most pagan deities in SMT chaos?

Is it because modern day Satanists use him, as an icon for whatever reason?

What level were you guys near the end of SMT4? I'm at Blasted Tokyo right now and I believe I'm in the Chaos ending at lvl. 57.

>this is what happens when you try to fuck demons that aren't your allies

Fixed.

Raidou had the right idea. His demonfus were still dangerous but they'd go dere for him.

Satan is a Lawfag as well

>he actually needs press turns
Don't be a faggot and give them to the man no one fights like.

>eating is stupid and inefficient
>unless you killed it yourself
Stop being a hypocrite Dagda.

Yeah, that's why I brought up the satanist part.

I can understand Satan being lawful, but Baphomet still confuses me.

True.
I wanna marry Yuki Jyorou.
That counts as a contract right?

Where do I go in the shesha radar quest?

I actually don't get why Satan is. I always thought him and Lucifer were the same person.

what passes over in new game+?

do you get some shortcut in naraku at some point, it took me half an hour to get out of naraku after beating minotaur because he decimated my everything

Misconception in modern Christianity. The Bible never relates them

There's a shortcut from the 1st to 4th floor of Naraku but I don't think there's a shortcut back to the 1st floor

Right after there's a place where you get guns and a terminal that can take you back to Mikado.

Well, Satan as a name means "Adversary".

In the Bible, Satan is a figure that says "Ay yo god, I bet them humans can be led astray from your light, can I fuck wit them and prove they only worship you cause you help them".
He only acts with gods permission.

Lucifer means "morning star" and he was an angel that was cast out of heaven for trying to lead a rebellion against god.

He leads human astray just to piss off god.

You see, this is why the Bible needs a reboot so people can understand what's going on.

If you had walked through the next hallway you would have found a heal room and a teleport room that links to Makado.

ah ok, so they do the same thing, just for different reasons.

better call J.J. Abrams

New Testament was the reboot. It didn't explain shit and ended with a cliffhanger.

Lucifer is a fallen angel cast out of heaven for helping humanity against the will of God.

Satan is an asshole that tempts humans to do wrong to invoke God's wrath.

Beezelbub is some demon that Christians believe to be Lucifer after he fell from heaven.

I love SMT's interpretation of all of them being seperate beings.

REMOVE DORMARTH

Let's not forget Mastema.

He was the original Satan before some faggot came around and changed "Mastema" to "Satan"

>that pic
my sides

also I thought Mastema tested your righteousness and not for your sinfulness

Uber Pixie's only problem is the lack of Pierce.

Eh, you can use the same methods to test both.

Not sure why he's so nice to you in SJ (for the most part) and IV.

I'd pierce her hymen.

well I guess its like:

>Satan: Here's a chance to do something that is bad, you should do it.

>Mastema: Here's a chance to do something that is good, you should do it.

Maybe this is an angel/devil on the shoulder thing?

Is there a series timeline? The lore can get pretty confusing at times.

>thank god japs dont give a shit about such crap

nichegamer.com/2016/03/28/square-enix-gave-star-ocean-5s-miki-bigger-panties-in-fear-of-western-criticism/

SMT1>SMT2>SMT:I>SMT3>SMT:SJ>SMT4>SMT4:A

Timetraveller goes back in time after SMT2 to the early 1900s and starts the Raidou/Persona timeline

Raidou>Soul Hackers>Persona

Its not that complicated.

I'm still stunned that happened.

>Raidou>Soul Hackers
You're retarded.

>Devil Summoner connected to Megami Ibunroku Persona

I can't wait to read how you'd explain this shit.

The Kuzunoha detective agency is in Persona 2.

Kuzunoha possessing Todoroki.

Is SMT4 Final the worst main series SMT game?

Isn't that dub only?

>types out the full name thinking it gives him street cred
>never even played Persona 2

top kek

No, it's the second best, after II.

>SMT3>SMT:SJ>SMT4>SMT4:A
what

No, that's if...

>Gooks having the same family name means they're all related

So where's all the super advanced tech from Soul Hackers in Persona, geniuses? The island was super advanced, but you mean to tell me that nobody used anything more technilogically superior than a filp phone in Persona 4?

>So where's all the super advanced tech from Soul Hackers in Persona, geniuses?
did you forget when Soul Hackers takes place

Yes. Waifushit was a mistake, feels good this shit bombed in Japan so next proper installment won't use pandering to the lowest common denominator anymore.

just reached medusa
holy shit does she look bad

Nope. I've only ever played the Japanese version of Persona 2 (or any Persona game), and that's indeed the name of the detective agency.

Can I get DOOMGUY armor in Apocalypse?

Thank god Doi made her better in Apo

The gameplay was massively improved over IV. If your only complaint is the presance of cute girls then you're just a bitter homosexual/fujoshi.

not even fucking close

The reference to Raidou in P4 is dub only but the Kuzunohas are in P2.

Strange Journey was supposed to be SMT4 before it got a name change. It follows after SMT3 because you see the angels trying to reform the Demiurge in order to bring YHWH back. 4 takes place after SJ with all the demonica, mem aleph shit and YHWH actually being back again. Apocalypse obviously takes place after 4.

Its not just the same name, its the same fucking characters too. I did mean Devil Summoner in particular, not Soul Hackers though. SH was just in my mind because its the last DS game I played.

She gets better in apocalypse she even rants about how much better she looks when you fight her.

HELP

where the fuck do I go to find the parts for the shesha radar?! The quest info tells me nothing and when I go back to the scientist guy he doesn't tell me anything either

I cant find any information online either, I am completely stuck

SOMEONE PLS HELP

Wish we could get Strange Journey on iOS. Would you guys recommend SMT on the iOS App Store?

I've heard that version is kinda buggy.

>post talking about timeline
Who's the real retard here?

You have to be a good goy and pay a gorrilion macca to buy the whole set.

So fucking hot

I believe it's near the bottom part of another one of the elevators in Kasumagichi

It says Sky Tower on the info

Is it good statwise? If so that's what I'm using my armor kits on.

Yeah but in Massacre you can literally eternally cuck him by making Isabeau your Megami

I think its the second best armor in the game.

To be honest, the Superior Samurai is the objective best armor you can buy. It ain't shabby, but you should spend your macca on better stuff.

>can't even get a proper gameover before endgame dungeon
>parthners cheesing every battle with constant healing and buffing
>dungeons still a joke
>most of the shit is reused assets
>elemental spells now can't freeze or bind even

Wow, so improved gameplay, lmao! IV at least got an interesting story that wasn't retarded shit for waifufags and paedophiles. Go hug your Toki' dakimakura now, scum, your game is bombed casual shit, not even a proper game.

What the fuck does curse do in SMT 1?
I bought some bullets and in confused in enemy purpose

>bomb

Nope. No one's even bothered to get their hex IDs.

If we had those it'd just be a matter of swapping out a demon's ID in your stock to get the protags in your party.

>90k
>not bomb

Source?

How much of the game left? Just rescued Flynn.
I'm starting to get tired of this moe shit.

Don't forget:
>every character can still die in one-hit
>smirks
>barely any endgame content that isn't DLC
I fucking hate this then I still fucking hate it now.

That's not Flynn m8.

Yeah, I love Asahi. She is cute and is an actual useful companion during battle. Also I love how she talks about the demons I caught and other stuff.
She is everything that I wanted Isabeau to be in the first game.
But I dont like Navarre. I dont know why the fuck Atlus thought he was a good character to bring back...

Reminded me of snake baby.

>every character can still die in one-hit
Game would've been better if it was actually true.

fuck man, that shit really caught me off gaurd, I legit didn't see that coming for some reason.

What difficulty are you playing on?
My characters are getting rekt left and right on war?
Odin with his Will of thunder+concentration+thunder reign wiped my party in one hit.

I don't know about you, but getting ambushed by enemies rekts like they're nothing. And I'm already on lvl 99.

Literally every difficulty, there isn't much of a difference, it just gives more hp to the bosses and make you miss more from the things that matters.

>Will of thunder+concentration+thunder reign wiped my party in one hit
>being retarded enough to not using makakarn before shit hits the fan
Brought this on yourself, moron.

When the world goes to shit, ya learn to grow up fast. Gotta keep reproducing as others die off.

>Makarakarn
>Odin used Will of Thunder
???

Are you fucking retarded? Pierce does not break Repel.

Check again. You're the retarded one here, user.

What about the resists on the chest? I hate anything with a weakness.

I like Navarre because of the buffs, I don't really need Asahi's healing at the moment.

>finalbaby trying to win argument by power of bullshit

Waifufags can't even tell how spells from their games works, what a joke of a fanbase, I swear. Karnbreaks and almighty are the only ways around Repel, you fucking twat.

I don't think it has any weaknesses, but it doesn't resist everything like the superior samurai armor.

Not him but are you really this desperate? Pierce does not goes through Repel since forever mr. newfag.

>talking about a boss on Apocalypse
>hurr durr use inefficient skill that gets useless once the boss use one specific skill
It pierces repels now. I know it doesn't work on previous games, but the one we're talking here is the new game that's out, you dumb fuck.

Not him, but shitposting when you realize you're wrong is bad form. Pierce works on repel this game.

Wow, you showed me.

>It pierces repels now
It does not, stop bullshitting people, you miserable cretin.

Here's your last (You).

>Gaston defying angels
BASED
A
S
E
D

Why argue with someone who didn't even play the game?
No matter what you say he will say you're wrong and that it is shit.
No need to waste any energy on him.

>passive pierces are Will of spells now
Wow, your mental illness got even worse withing a few minutes.

just reached tokyo, the music is awfully familiar
was it in nocturne?

Pierce goes through Repels in Apocalypse.

Someone's gotta put retards in their place, user.

@353389665
Not even gonna give your (You) this, champ. Try again.

Dragging Lawfags or Chaosfags off alignment is always cool. Satan splitting into Walter and Jonathan, who were back to their old selves before going off the deep end was the best.

It does not, imbecile.

Seriously, him and Hallelujah, I thought I'd dislike them the whole game but now they're some of my favorite SMT characters.

>@
Nice bait

It does, though, Casualry

>@
Wow you sure showed me, plebbit. You can go be a retard there with your pathetic attempts.

It was so obvious that Gaston change would turn ove, so stupid.
Imagine him keeping his arrogance and faith to Samurai until the end, having one final fight with him, and it'd go something like this:
>your party: Give up Gaston, there's still a chance to come with us
>Him: No, i will die with pride.
>Gaston, this is the last warning. We do not want to do this, but we'll have to. Please!
>Him: Fuck you you miserable pieces of shit children of Tokyo faggots, go back to your demon filled shithole stupid kids.
>ded
uknow

Actually Pierce in general is a bit problematic in 4A because it's so ubiquitous and many late game bosses use it so your carefully crafted anti everything demon ends up being shit compared to a hp tank demon (which has been the way to go since 4). But more importantly it kinda reduces the complexity of the game because no matter what element spells someone casts they will not lose a turn.

>New SMT
>your 2 new Pals: Asshole Lawfag and Leader Chaosfag
>End of the Game: Asshole Lawfag became Asshole Chaosfag and Leader Chaosfag became Leader Lawfag

It still doesn't thrust Repel.

Kill yourself already.

Not him, but really its you who should do this.

Maybe you should play the actual game before saying clearly incorrect things.

Just stop user. It's just one guy samefagging, stop replying altogether. The thread's dead anyway.

Is it me, or do attacks miss a fuckload more in this game?
I don't remember a magic attack miss a single time in my playthrough of SMT4, but now every other attack just god damn misses.
It sucks.

I finished it, Will of Thunder does not thrust Repel even on Smirk, this is my last (You) for you, miserable degenerate. Enjoy being mentally handicapped elsewhere please.

It's just a way of going beyond Almighty.

Now with the right character or setup or by the right enemy, you have an Almighty that can do more damage by hitting a weakness.

Which still means all those resist/null elements paid off, because as opposed to being hit at neutral power that could've been a case of the enemy hitting for 150% power, getting a press turn, and smirking, which would guarantee a critical hit + another press turn following that.

will someone make a fucking webm of perceive and repel already? fuck I have a 3ds cap i'll fucking stream the game if i can prove this somewhere.

pierce*

>talking to yourself to back up your ''''arguments'''' after fuck up
Lmao@your life

That looks like the hotsprings from Kid Icarus.

It's just the early game, for some reason. By level 30 or so you don't miss too much so long as you put 1 or 2 points of agility per level in. Difficulty setting also effects it, Apocalypse difficulty is near unplayable but War definitely levels off to manageable the same way.

Just never, ever, ever use any physical skills or weapons that say "low hit %, high crit %" unless you're already smirking (in which case you'll hit and crit no matter what anyway). Those moves are fucking liabilities.

>being this retarded
Almighty is the only shit that goes tru Rp the fuck are you even arguing about here retards?

I REALLY want to put my dick in Tiamat

Maybe you should actually play the game before spouting bullshit.

So since Hallelujah is a demikid does that mean his doggo is his Pokémon like the one the demikid protagonists had?