New Deathwing trailer

Steum-On supposedly wanted to add some more Xenos (which would make sense setting wise), maybe spooky Chaos dudes or Ork pirates, but they were refused the rights to use anything but Marines and 'Nids.

There are whispers of daemons being in the game, but who knows for sure.

>Genestealers swarm over you.
>Reload your weapon.
>Weapon jammed

I can taste eye divine cybermancy just by looking at it.

The SFX for bullets hitting the stormshield were defitinitely sounds heard in EYE and other Source games.

But yeah, the weapons having some actual weight behind them was already one of the best point of EYE.

Looks promising, but since it's a Warhammer game I'm keeping my expectations low.

LEGS STATUS: OK

I don't know, this doesn't really look all that interesting. What's the main selling point of Deathwing?

Well look up the other trailers you lazy bum.

purging xenos

are you into 40k ?, if you're not it maybe explain your current state

This can't be right, everything seems so good something has to go wrong

It just looks like Left 4 Dead, except you're a Space Marine with heavier firepower and a weightier feel. 40K gothic artstyle is a plus I guess

Yes, the fact that it's still 2 months away, and that's I'm not sure that my PC xill be able to handle the Messiah.

But Left 4 Dead as okay so who gives a shit?

Post ylw this game

It could run like shit, for one

Do you call every game that has waves of ennemies coming at you a L2D clone?

I hope to god a status message will read "YOUR LEGS ARE BROKEN/YOUR LEGS ARE OK"

kek my eyes blurred a little while and I thought that the objective marker said "Smite" and not Secure.

that doesn't look OK, that looks disgusting

Well the devs did say (months, if not a year ago) that they were trying to have it running on as many machines as possible, while obviously making it possible to reamly oush the graphics, since they're not restrained by a console launch.
They did post their specs, which were pretty fucking incredible, but these were development computers after all.

who /heavyflamer/ here

the selling point is that good WH40K FPS games are so few and far between, that we will take anything

also this has a heavy following from E.Y.E. fans, because that game is fucking bananas yet somehow really satisfying
and it had a lot of 40K references and influences long before deathwing was announced; so you can tell the devs are fans first and foremost, which gives a lot of hope for the quality of the game

plus it will be fairly replayable due to it's nature and fanbase; there are people still playing the PC version of WH40K: Space Marine exterminatus mode (I played a few games yesterday), and that game wasn't perfect and is also 5 years old

>status
I usually don't get myself hyped for any game, but shit son, this is looking really good.

>weapon jams

I think that's just what they're calling the cooldown on that weapon, as it happens after every shot in the trailer. It doesn't really make sense that Terminators of all units would carry weapons prone to jamming.

Don't forget this is by the E.Y.E. devs, whose grasp on English is rather dubious

Looks alright. They really need to just release a 30-40 minute video without cuts and shitty commentary.

Also the automatic weapons seems like they have way too much recoil.

>Serious Sam in tiny rooms
I bet it also locks doors behind you.

Well it also seemingly happened to Plasma Cannon, which doesn't exactly jams, but rather overheats. And then it explodes.

because left 4 RATs managed to show badly the formula can be turned into awful shit if the devs don't know how to keep it fun and engaging

>it will be fairly replayable due to it's nature

not if there's a weapon loot system again

Just a question because it's sort of relevant
How can I play the Space Hulk Boardgame if GW is too shit to release it?

Why wouldn't it? You're not thinking about retreating are you?

Looks good! But im confused. Terminator armour makes power armour look like flak. So how do these random xenos pose any damger to them?

[mariachi music intensifies]

I still remember exactly when and where I was when they announced the game was being developed, years ago.
How far we've come, how glorious the journey has been.

>40k hours in EYE
>still no micronuclear warhead research

I don't think they'll pull that shit again

the flame looked to narrow compared to the board games. As it stands it looks like the assault cannon will probably be the best weapon due to sheer firepower so how are they going to balance the weapons, if at all becasue why would you want to be a scrub with a storm bolter when you could be a very important person with a storm shield and hammer.

they're basically xenomorphs

You can actually lock doors to stop stealers temporarily.
Then they wait for you or regroup in some other places. Apparently they workd really hard on the Hive Mind.

>I bet it also locks doors behind you.
No user, you do unless you enjoy buttrape via tyranid

>mfw the weight and impact weapons have

I just hope I can shill my friends into playing this

So it's just L4D?

Here.
Though i am more exited to kill xeno with mind dakka.

Looks pretty fun. I just hope it's more polished than Vermintide.

Why does the melee combat look so shit in a 40K game

Genestealer claws can fucking shred Terminator armor like it's nothing.

If you lookat the ammo counter the Assault cannon depletes FAST. Sure your ammo reserve is infinite, but reloading is very probably dangerous as fuck.
Flamer lets you breathe a bit, since you close a path where you spray.
And thunder hammer and shield is dangerous as fuck, the risk of getting surrounded is pretty important.

Looks boring, just like Vermintide.

OK streumon just confirmed on french forum recoil was reduced by marketing faggots for this trailer.

Does this have a single player campaign at all? I'd buy that in a second. If it's more co-op lootyshit I can't be fucked.

According to Canard PC they really solved one of the main problems that was the weapon feeling, but they still had work to do on the genestealer's behavior and AI to make them feel more believable and less clunky.

Really crossing my fingers on this one, I was pretty hyped for EYE and they dropped the ball back then.

Vermintide was shit and made by a shit dev, if you payed money for that then im sorry that you're such a fag.

>recoil was reduced

Then it's going to be pretty shitty on release. What we've seen makes it unreasonably jittery for someone wearing Terminator armor.

if you play solo, then you give instructions to AI teammates, but they are still smart enough to defend themselves and you without explicitly being told to, it just means you can position and organize them a bit better to cover all angles

>I was pretty hyped for EYE and they dropped the ball back then.
Faggot detected

Rending Claws slash through termie armor like a hot knife through butter. Hell, the only reason termies are sent to space hulks is for the shit that you can't shoot. Stuff like heavy radiation, the vacuum of space, low gravity, warp bursts and all the other shit that would befit a ship that has been floating about in the warp for years and years. If there were only xenos on it they could probably send in storm troopers and be much more effective.

Play the Space Hulk vidya which is nearly exactly the same, except cheaper.

In Space Hulk, genestealers will one-shot termies due to their diamond-sharp claws. I'm actually surprised you get a health system in this game since it should be pointless to worry about.

Hey, I love EYE for the crazy meme game it has become, but it is very much a happy accident.
The game was not supposed to be that way at all in tone and form and is objectively a clusterfuck of half-finished features, that happens to be hilarious and allow some insanely fun builds.

In their own settings it did okay because they had the benefit if the doubt, but this kind of zanny shit will not fly in a bona fide 40K one.

>The Emperor is of protect
>Your bolter is jammed
>Your bolter is ok

This one or the Sega Saturn one?

>your bolter is ok
10/10 would play again

Christ that sounds nuts. Thought inly power weapons and titan grade weaponry could get through termy armour. Those xenos are strong!

They certainly look the part.

>buttrape via Zerg
ftfy

>your bolter is ok

The 2014 game on steam. Not Ascension, as that one's more rpg-strategy like xcom.

>blizzdrones are this underage

Someone please post all the EYE guides, I'm reinstalling it.

>The Emperor is of protect

>posts bait picture
>still falls for it

There's also a Space Hulk card game called Death Angel. It's pretty neat. If you have Tabletop Simulator you can play both for free.

>game wont be out before the end of november

BUT I NEED IT NOW

kek, Streumon just posted a comment on youtube

>Hi all,
Just to mention for those who compare to L4D or Vermintide. They are quite good games but I want to mention that we have given great importance to the solo campaign. It is a real solo game taking place in 9 levels. You play with 2 NPC teammates with a good AI (not simple bots). You can give them a dozen of different orders in order to employ the best tactics to crush your enemies. There is also hacking of some in-game elements. During the exploration of the Space Hulk, you can rediscover old and forgotten relics.
So it is playable in coop, but solo is not the coop campaign with bots taking place of players. The gameplay is actually quite different between solo and cooperative and focus has been made on the story.

...

>their focus was on the solo campaign

Fuck that's shitty. These types of games are meant to be played with people.

>Terminator armor can withstand objects ramming into it from orbit
>Can't take claws

40k lore everyone

No fuck you.

Can't beat that Rending.

>he thinks genestealers have normal claws

this is 40K Biology has no earthly limits

>Kevlar vests stop bullets
>Can't take a knife

Woooooow

You cannot deny these types of games stand out the most when you play with people. Nobody wants to play L4D by themselves.

>Your hand will sink into ooblek if you just touch it
>The faster you hit it the harder it is

Literal physics everyone

I'm cautiously hyped about this.
I really liked both EYE and Styx so I'm good.
Also gotta support my fellow countrymen's game

Not if if you have a Chain fist

Je suis monté

Not him but does that mean geanestealers can tear into the side of a tank? Cause thats pretty hardcore if so.

>They certainly look the part.
They looks like Chinese knock-offs, really. Bad proportions, goofy heads. Doesn't really matter when you're melting a stream of them with your assault cannon, I guess.

That is literally the way to do it. Keep the story shit and the multiplayer shit separate.

>All 40k games recently have been trash
>Dawn of war 3 has questionable choices
>mfw the fucking DARK ANGELS are the last hope for 40k video games

Bet your ass they can.

"They're coming out of the damn walls! " is very true with stealers, they cut right through it.

Will this turn into vermintide 2.0 in which after a month the game does because no custom maps, will it be plagued with DLC?
I want to believe but I'm scared

love the full white corvus helmet on the ultramarine paint

Left 4 rats was allright, limited maps and no custom servers/maps killed it for me after a while

Yup but they tend to not be on the battlefield. There is no logic as to why but its how they are.

Bruh, the tyranids got a radical redesign after the zerg came out. Tyranids came first but the current aesthetic they run drew heavy inspiration with the zerg combined with their old.

Kind of. It would be pretty hard for them to do so, but it's possible.

>mfw too afraid to play EYE in fullscreen because i'm afraid it's about to get spooky

they are the most loyal, MOST LOYAL!

Well it is pretty much what I expected. It's L4D with a Warhammer coat of paint. The game does look very pretty though. The environments and models all look cool.
I'm a little bummed that it's just Nids though. It would be great if there were game modes where you fight Orkz or Chaos as well.
I hope it's fun.

Game dies*

The key difference here is that one was made for multiplayer and the other is not.
Being a L4D clone, Vermintide's level had to be 1 to 2 hours long or shorter, because you can't expect pubs to stick around for anything longer.
This means you'll "finish" the game in 6 to 10 hours.

EYE, which was also focused on solo, took roughly 20 hours.

so are dark angels going to be the only chapter? i know space hulk is their thing just had a bit of curiosity

this actually looks fucking fun as hell.

Now when is my massive Imperial Guard trench warfare game going to happen?

>Christ that sounds nuts. Thought inly power weapons and titan grade weaponry could get through termy armour. Those xenos are strong!
That's the idea, anyway. The reality is that they need to get a really good grip to shear right through termie armour, which is why they try and ambush them as much as possible.

Other chapters are DLC :^)

I, CATO SICARIUS, AM SINGLEHANDEDLY OPERATING THIS BIG-ASS GUN

What type of game is this? Is it like Left 4 Dead? because that game is boring man.

I'm afraid this game will be too easy. Genestealers drop like flies aren't they supposed to be fast as fuck and have power armor shredding claws?

>Battlefleet gothic was trash

I still think it was an odd decision to turn Space Hulk into an action-shooter. The main balancing limitation on the side of the space marines was that they were slow and cumbersome as fuck, which makes for a fine board game but just looks boring when you actually play as one in real time.

this

Yeah, but you have guns.

>there will never be spacemarine 2

>I will never fight Freebootaz or Red Corsairs

It was an incredibly unbalanced, shitty mess when it came out. Even after multiple patches it still has serious problems.

If you deny this, you haven't played it.

I want to be excited for it but I just have this sinking feeling that it'll suck balls. I hope I'm wrong.

>We finally get a left 4 dead 40k game
>Its another space hulk

I love Space Hulk and all but 40k actually has zombies in the lore so it wouldnt be a problem

It's wise to expect the worst and hope for the best. We'll see what happens in a month.

It's such a wasted opportunity, too. Space Hulks are one of the coolest pieces of setting, enormous masses of crushed ships flying through space, infested with all kinds of crap. Not just human ships, weird xeno ships, ancient, forgotten. But all we're going to get is THEY'RE COMING OUT OF THE GODDAMN WALLS.

Why won't Hive MInd give every gaunt claws as sharp as those of Genestealers?

kys retard

Genestealers are in a league all their own they might be considered nids but they dont really see eyes to eyes with the rest of the hive

Looks pretty E.Ψ.Ǝ. I like that.

>its L4D
Its literally not though. Can you stop using this garbage meme now? Please fuck right off

I don't understand, is coop for campaign or is it different levels? Will there be mod tools?

Looks like L4D to me, senpai.

But that's wrong. Genestealers are 'programmed' to stay ahead of the hive fleets, but they're still Tyranids. As soon as the Hive Mind invades a world they fall under synapse control like any other Tyranid.

What's the difference? You and a few friends (or NPCs) face off against waves of enemies. The majority of enemies are trash mobs. Sometimes giga niggas show up and you all have to focus on taking them down before they fuck you up.

The whole point of genestealers is that they infiltrate planets to soften them from the inside for when the rest of the swarm arrives. They need to be stronger than the average nid because they don't have the advantage of numbers.

That and they're xenomorph knockoffs while the rest of the Tyranids are starship troopers alien knockoffs.

Did L4D have a focus on delivering a solid campaign with cutscenes and story and shit, with extensive options for commanding your squad?

They literally said that the game is singleplayer and co-op is just an optional way to play that changes stuff, like you cant use Librarian, and there are no cutscenes

It's strange to think that these people were the ones behind E.Y.E Divine Cybermancy.

What the fuck would the story would be?

>Hey boys better strap on those Terminator armors ya got since guess what? We just lost another CAT

>Did L4D have a focus on delivering a solid campaign with cutscenes and story and shit, with extensive options for commanding your squad?
Where have we seen any of that? All we have seen so far is basic L4D swarm shooting.

>They literally said
>literally
>said
k

Didn't think it was possible to ejaculate 2 times in one go

>and there are no cutscenes
why

I hate how I can watch stuff easily from Cred Forums, but if look at it from my own bookmarks, it wants me to 'sign in'

apparently you have to be old enough to see plastic computer models splatter

which is proven by 'signing in'

They got a Dark Angels fag to write the story Graham McNeil

>They literally said that the game is singleplayer and co-op is just an optional way to play

The problem is that the focus was apparently given to the singleplayer campaign, which is obviously a mistake. Who the fuck wants to play a L4D type game by themselves, cutscenes or not?

>Eldar could one shot Cruisers
>Orks could abuse taunt
>The nova cannon could hit the head of a pin from across the map.
Fucking escort missions are awful.

And it's perfectly fine and dandy now even with the new DLC.

>coop
>waves
>various types of opponents
That description fits an incredibly high number of FPS, TPS and hack&slash.

You know what else has a story? L4D.

I mean 40k does have zombies.

If they ever add IG to the game it would be perfect

>Streum On is a bunch of liars
Ok you can leave now lad. Shitposting has its limits. And to answer your "where have we seen that", we have seen commanding your squad in previous footage you retarded fuck.

>oh hey guys we found out a bunch of Fallen are sitting in the middle of the hulk
I'd dig it

Because they interrupt co-op gameplay? Hell if I know

>L4D type game
There is your fucking problem again. You think of this as a L4D game and project your expectations against that background.
Making it a singleplayer game allows them to not do some retarded loot system garbage, and most importantly allows for some lengthy levels since you dont have to worry about other players. I dont give a shit about L4D type games, but Deathwing looks solid.

youtube.com/watch?v=ECEz3a4GErE

40k fans are so autistic. It's hilarious how many mental gymnastics they go through to scream THIS GAME LOOKS -NOTHING- LIKE L4D when that in itself isn't even a bad thing.

>playing as a squad of IG during a Nurgle incursion

I love learning new 40K fuckery, like rending claws being a seemingly-infinitely strong weapon.

Give me more fun facts.

Wait......who are the Fallen?

Tyranids all serve different purposes, so stuff like the little buggers aren't meant to take out the Termies. Having a strong army is a means to an end for the hivemind rather than an end in itself, so wasting resources making uber claws for every grunt is not a priority.

republic commando was a solo experience

and that game aged like dog shit in the texas sun

'bout half of Dark Angels turned traitor during the heresy, and the Deathwing company is all about hunting those traitors.
They'd be silly to not use that plot point

THEY ARE NO ONE TOTALLY NOT LOYALISTS TRYING TO EXPOSE US AS THE TRAITORS WE ARE SINCE THE DARK ANGELS ARE THE MOST LOYAL SPACE MARINE CHAPTER AROUND

The Tyranid hivemind can block out Warp travel and communications.

>You think of this as a L4D game

It is a co-op game, either with real players or AI partners.

You move from point A to point B, fighting waves of enemies while you do so, the majority of which will die in 1-2 shots.

Occasionally an enemy will appear that can take and inflict more damage.

If you think there are massive differences between this game and Left 4 Dead, you are lying to yourself.

I think managing enemies in close combat is why you would pick the storm bolter and sword over the assault cannon.

>mfw game gets overhyped and becomes second evolve

Remember kids

There are 2 types of Dark Angel fans

>And it's perfectly fine and dandy months later after everyone stopped giving a shit

So please don't pretend to not understand why people say BFG Armada is shit.

You can also put the vast majority of FPS with those criterias you fucking retard.

So you're saying that Half-Life when played with a co-op mode is L4D?

Eat shit.

>Graham McNeil

It's actually Gav Thorpe, who is honestly a pretty shitty writer.

every game age like shit

After all "Loyalty is its own reward"

zombies are fucking done and re-done ad-nauseum
genestealers are super cool

Didnt see anyone hyping Evolve though.
And Evolve was a strictly multiplayer game. This is a singleplayer game. There's a difference

>weapon jams
>throw it at xenos
>charge them with chain or force sword
>FOR THE EMPEROR

This also causes Pyskers to go fucking crazy and kill themselves.

Enemies in HL don't typically swarm you in waves. Most take more than a couple shots to kill as well.

who is stronger Hivemind or a chaos God?

who wins

>left for dead with terminators
>wow get hype guys
I don't get this thread. It looks like shit. Literally Vermintide, but 40k. Is this neo-Cred Forums I hear so much about?

Uhh no. More like it makes Astropaths feel blind

You can't say a game was shit when it actually was shit months ago though. And I wasn't the guy you were talking with.

>this is by the E.Y.E. devs
I should've fucking known this when the first guy they show is dual wielding a sword and gun.

What the two types?

Basically

Every legion had some dissenters in the heresy, heretics in loyal legions or loyalists in traitor legions. The Dark Angels had the singular largest split of all the legions. It was impossible for the loyalists, who did eventually win out, to hunt down all the traitorous "Fallen Angels". Between that large split and how late they were to the siege of terra, the DA are forever shrouded in doubt from the other chapters since many thought they were waiting at the sidelines to see who was winning and (until the fucking Black Library) nobody knew if Lion was actually the loyal one between him and Luther. So, to prove just how loyal they are (since most of them are closet traitors), they feverently hunt down the Fallen to the ends of the galaxy as well as keep them hidden from the rest of the Imperium.

This being 40k, its entirely possible that the current DA chapter is actually traitorous in hiding making all their sneakiness justified. At the same time, GW being GW, the Alpha Legion are probably going to become loyal again should the plot advance.

fucking kek they just can't stop doing it

Are you going to stop samefagging any time soon?
Havent you gotten enough (you)'s already?

>Looks like shit
You know how I know this is bait without even considering the rest?

Game engine?

if the game allows for it i'll go heavy flame in one hand and assault cannon in the other.

It's a modern FPS Warhammer 40k game where you play as a space marine with shitton of weapons to play with made by the E.Y.E devs. There's plenty of reasons to be excited.

UE4

>get told how shitty your low quality b8 is
>>WAHH LMAO XD :DDD
What next?

wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Shadow_in_the_Warp

>The psyker or anybody with warp sensibility suffers
>severe headaches, uncontrollable screaming, bleeding eyes and unconsciousness.

>endless waves of enemies
>half-life

Also, you're asking a really stupid question that you didn't bother to think about. You're essentially asking if Half-Life would be more like L4D if it had been developed that way - but it wasn't, so why bother asking? We're talking about games with a clear and specific intent behind their design and development.

Well, it's also 40k. That's pretty much par for the course.

And there it is, citing Fantasy Flight Games.

>You can't say a game was shit when it actually was shit months ago though

You absolutely can. If a game is released, ends up being garbage, and you stop playing it, you're not obligated to keep up on development and make sure it turns out well.

So an exchange that goes like this
>hey did you play armada?
>yeah i thought it was shit
>have you played it since they patched it
>no
is perfectly reasonable.

>We're talking about games with a clear and specific intent behind their design and development.
Which is exactly why this L4D=Deathwing makes people get triggered.
Because the only thing similar between them is that they are first person shooters (although DW has a lot more melee) and the enemies mostly consist of easily dying trash.
Thats literally the extent of any reasonable comparison.

nope, I just think it's hilarious how much you fags delude yourselves.

>wow, this game that plays exactly like a shitty L4D 40k Vermintide looks NOTHING like a shitty L4D 40k Vermintide

>Republic Commando
>good Star Wars media
>the franchise in general
ohhhhh danny boy

>I don't like being proven wrong
>I will attack the source material

Or you can also pick the DoW games, the numerous novels where psykers are attacked by the presence of the hive-mind, and astropaths shitting themselves in fear because they can't sense shit around it.

Not him, but pretty much all the FFG stuff is going to enter the realm of questionable canon pretty soon.

> they really solved one of the main problems that was the weapon feeling
I dunno about that. The weapon sound effects are pretty weak. Especially compared to EYE.

>No
And the the exchange can still go:
>Try it again, it's good now

>Try it again, it's good now

It's still not good now, though.

Imperium is still top tier, Eldar get shit on.

Orks are no longer as garbage as they used to be, though.

I remember reading or hearing about Pyskers going insane once the Nids arrived at least 10 years ago. Its the reason why Eldar just avoid the Nids at all costs.

Don't worry user, I got your joke. Green wing don't know shit.

Anyone else think the firearms sound a bit quiet? For the size of the round the bolters fire I'd expect a fucking boom each shot.

read again faggot
"republic commando was a solo experience"
that's all i said

Well you'd imagine the full insulating helmets they wear would actually muffle the sound even further.
But yeah I'd always like meatier sounds

This is something I would also like to know.

come on, breh. i'm hyped for glorious cleansing as a terminator as much as the next ass hole but i'm not under any delusions about the similarities between this and L4D. they're similar, who the fuck cares? shit is gonna be fun regardless and at least we're getting another game in the same vein as those because L4D3 sure as fuck isn't happening any time soon.

>Thats literally the extent of any reasonable comparison.

>a team of characters that has to work together
>endless waves consisting mostly of trash that can attack you from any direction
>you can't just stand still forever, eventually you will run out of ammo
>have to make it to safe rooms in between levels
>can melee the hordes when they get close enough to clear out some space

I'm really not understanding why people are getting so offended by the comparison. L4D was a good game. Other games in the vein of L4D can also be good.

Do we just not want good games anymore?

THIS LOOKS DANK AS ALL FUCK DAY 1 BUY

>That part at 0:23
Wew that looks good

Bumping for this. I feel like they would just cancel each other out.

Just because the commercial collaboration ended doesn't mean the materia retroactively becomes obsolete.

Yes. The bolter is just making a sort of thump tump thump noise. I suppose they can handwave that with something about noise dampening tech integrated in their helmets.
Still kinda lame though.

I'm noticing that a lot of new games coming out these days have inferior gun sounds, you can it most apparent when comparing gun sounds in KF1 and KF2 where a lot of the returning weapons sound like they were recorded under two pillows. I wonder if this has to do with current sound recording devices or techniques that just don't pick up that oomph that you expect guns to make when firing.

Eldar being able to vaporapeize people from outside vision was bad. 90% of bitching is just people playing a hard game for once in their lives and complaining about having to git gud.

It's WH autism, user. We already went through these exact motions with Vermintide.

How do you thing ammo will be handled?

Well they outright retconned (not sure that word applies though) a good chunk of Deathwatch lore when they released Death Masques and Watchers in Death.

So it's not so much a matter of noncanon but the fact that people shouldn't get too attached to it. A shame, because I prefer the FFG Deathwatch origin.

Infinite reserve ammo but you need to manage jamming/overheating.

Some chapters had split loyalties between Horus and the Emperor. With the Dark Angels, it was more of a 50/50 split between "join the war" and "wait and see". There was a big civil war that resulted in the destruction of their homeworld, and Lion El Johnson (founder of the legion) getting in a coma.
The fact that the DA had traitor isn't a problem. Every legion had some. The issue is that some fallen say that they were the loyalists ones, and that the rest of the dark angels were traitors, just pretending to be loyal after they realized that Horus had lost the battle of Terra.

>have to make it to safe rooms in between levels
?
>can melee the hordes when they get close enough to clear out some space
Can also equip literal melee weapons that tear through the enemies. As in you dont even have ranged weaponry.
>you can't just stand still forever, eventually you will run out of ammo
Oh shit you mean something that is in literally ever FPS ever created?
>a team of characters that has to work together
More like you command them similarly to Republic Commando (although more extensive options).

Vermintide was a blatant L4D clone, but this doesnt look like it when you take a peek under the initial impression.

the plasma cannon seems to be unlimited, it just need time to cooldown

>?

Try using your words, bud.

>Oh shit you mean something that is in literally ever FPS ever created?

But when you have that aspect along with
>endless waves
it means eventually you will get overwhelmed.

So obviously these two aspects complement each other to create tension.

Why do I have to explain this to you? Did you not play L4D?

>Can also equip literal melee weapons that tear through the enemies.

Just like Left 4 Dead 2.

I want to believe, but shooting just genestealers and an occasional broodlord will get old really fast, it's like Left 4 dead with one enemy type

actually they anounced genestealer hybrid

You can apparently dual wield any combination of all the weapons

if we're gonna go by tabletop rules, melle attacks are 1 hit kills for both sides.

If you had looked at all the trailerq and even this one more, you'd have seen that there will be several types of stealers and even hybrids.

bolters akimbo

Well fuck YOU faggot! This game is copying Left For Dead 2?

Well guess what, SHITCUNT, L4D2 copied another game called Left For Dead that came out way before it did!

Checkmate, faggot

>two assault cannons

Omegon was definitely loyal and now that he's the boss, a lot of the other details about the Alpha Legion make more sense during HH. They were pretty much just dicking around near the end of it and being useless.

What?

>L4D clone

There are no fucking "saferooms" to break up levels into bite sized chunks you inbred mongoloid.
Its big expansive levels where you deploy to accomplish an objective.
The fuck you on about?

>>Can also equip literal melee weapons that tear through the enemies.
>Just like Left 4 Dead 2.

In the space hulk table top game, if you land a melle attack it's a kill for both the gene stealers and the terminators.
Like the l4d2 melle weapons.

will orks ever be added
i know they werent in the board game but come on theres so many warhammer games coming out and none of em have orks

>tfw no one to coop with at launch

it's gonna be halo 3 all over again :(

I thing you will find ammo here and there, and if you just so happen to have a right weapon at your disposal you'll be able to throw said ammo right back at the enemy.

>Republic Commando
>bad

DoW 3 is going to have orks. Also Eternal Crusade if it ever is actually released.

oh fuck it's the guys who did EYE, this is gonna be amazing. Hell yeah

>There are no fucking "saferooms"

bit-tech.net/gaming/2016/09/08/space-hulk-deathwing-gamescom-2016/1

>We didn't get a hands on, but it feels reminiscent of Left 4 Dead, with the aim of travelling through a variety of ships fighting the Tyranids as you travel from safe room to safe room using these sealed areas to heal and re-arm for the trouble ahead.

I bet you feel real embarrassed right about now.

glorious. a rain of fire and lead wild descend upon the xenos scum.

The game looks amazing but after they botched Eternal Crusade I believe in nothing anymore.
How will they fuck this up?

Honest ones and liars.

HAMMER AND CHAINSWORD
WITH THESE WEAPONS OF THE EMPEROR THESE XENOS WILL BE SLAIN

>Literally anything that has an echo in the warp or affecting it will influence psykers
>A fuckhuge, nearly incomprehensible blob of psychic nothingness won't have a profound effect on Psykers

Did Necrons not causing psykers lose their shit become non-canon as well?

>that storm bolter muzzle
uh

>2 mags
>2 shots at a time
??

From the looks of it, the worst will be the really bad dialogue botching since it's made by the EYE devs.

>not ultramarines
>but its a hay chapter with a deviantart/tumblr name

yawn

could be repetitive as fuck mate. Though it's almost guaranteed to make for a 7-10h entertaining game I'm sure

It was his first time drilling his barrels

The barrels aren't aligned and, unless those aren't actual barrels but some kind of flash hider, intersect.

Necron Pariahs are no longer canon, if that's what you mean.

Szeras is working on it, though.

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>2 shields

im gonna metroid this shit and just roll past everything

What the fuck you on about, it's not the same devs, not the same game, not the same genre?
Think before you type.

Unbalanced but I had a lot of fun doing 2v2 with my friend. Once Space Marines came out we just played them all night and lost maybe 2 games. Not balanced at all but really fun to play.

>Those weapon sfx
>The way enemies jump at you
WE'RE GOING BACK IN, BOYS
BREAK THE FUCKING CYCLE
BREAK YOUR FUCKING LEGS

Pariahs were human hybrids, Necrons and the C'tan in general are anti-Warp.

Course there will be, that's how EVERY SINGLE 40K GAME GOES

>Firewarrior... ooo space marnies OH NO CHAOS
>DOW1 ooo orks OH NO CHAOS
>DOW2 ooo tyranids OH NO CHAOS
>SPACE MARINE ooo Orks OH NO CHAOS

I just had a lot of faith in EC and it turned out shit
I don't trust GW to give the license to competent devs

I think Necrons should be utilized more. Or Dark Eldar for maximum edge.

They've toned down the anti-Warp stuff in the last couple codex books, though. They still have the capability to shut down warp storms and psykers, but it's not shown to be a major goal as it was with the oldCrons.

The C'tan were the driving element behind that, and they're essentially slaves now.

Eh Eternal Crusade is slowly getting better as its patched..

The controls and combat still feel clunky as fuck though

>how do these random xenos pose any danger
>random xenos

Genestealers? One of the oldest aspects of 40k? 40ks answer to xenomorphs? The tyranid vanguard shock organisms that are renowned for being CC monsters? Diamoned tipped rending alien claws

Not tetris.

You seem to have completely misunderstood his post.

>theres so many warhammer games coming out and none of em have orks

Are you taking the PISS?!!??!

its been ages since we had some tyranids in a game Orks are in very fucking game dude

>40ks answer to xenomorphs?
so 40ks answer to xenomorphs was giving them 2 more arms and calling it a day

Wait, so situations where one guy is trying to lock the door while the rest of your squad is desperately holding off the genestealers so that you can slip in the last second before the doors close behind you is a legit thing that can occur?

You should see 40K answer to Judge Dredd. Literally the same shit with different color.

And making them scouts for something much worse. That's how 40k works. Take something and blow it up to the very limit of word "excessive"

WAIT I RECOGNIZE THAT CHIN

Excellent.

Not an easy feat, but yes they can do it, I mean usually a tank will fuck off as opposed to letting them swarm it

I AAAAAAAAM THE FUCKING LAW

Genestealer Cultists, probably

The Tyranid infects DNA and makes offspring more and more alike a tyranid with generations passed on. They look like down syndromed kids until you realize they're sharpening their teeth and have a somewhat voracious appetite. Then they don't talk about pokeyman like the normal kids but whisper to other retards alike about their true father coming for them. They start a rockband called the Genestealer Cult and start looking edgy.

Then the orgies and finally a Tyranid offspring that calls the Tendrils crashing down the skies where the food is.

In the lore they've been known to completely shred the armor of APCs and get to the infantry inside. Their claws are ridiculous and make no sense but they kinda have to be since they fight Termies in CQC.

>voting Trump

I seriously hope you don't do this

>Needs more taunts
>new doom- whit a better power armor
PURGE THE HERETIC!

>they might be considered nids but they dont really see eyes to eyes with the rest of the hive

They are nids and they follow the will of the hivemind, they are part of the hivemind, they don't "disagree"

Its their job to seed planets with cults and be scouting/ vanguard organisms, once the hive fleet picks them up, they leave to find more planets because that's what theyre designed to do, nothing to do with them not "seeing eye to eye"

So the game will only have cultists, genestealers and bigger genestalers? Fucking boring shit L4D rip off just like 40K is a boring, shit rip off of other franchises.

>I'm stupid: the post

Goddamn that gameplay looks satisfying
I'm so glad I preordered this

>The Tyranid infects DNA and makes offspring more and more alike a tyranid with generations passed on

Other way around. The first generation are pretty much just retard tyranids and they slowly developing higher intelligence and similarity to their host species before it comes full circle and they start birthing pure strain genestealers again.

>Be a dark angel
>Part of the inner circle
>Find STC templates that could give the Imperium strategic advantages
>Hoard it all because revealing them might perhaps just maybe kind of-ish reveal the existence of the fallen

People say that the bloody magpies are the masters of looting but at least they never hoarded STC templates.

This is your brain on liberalism. Can't even think of a decent reply other than 'ur stoopid"

I still believe they are deliberately hiding that there will be another faction in the game, and it's probably chaos
because whenever a 3rd faction appears out of nowhere, it's ALWAYS chaos

Less US politics, more purging xenos.

Please be good.
Please be good.
Please be good.

Keep dumbass politics out of here, niggers, this is a 40K thread

Why are people complaining, this looks fucking cool.
Actual old school shooter with modern graphics.

>it's ALWAYS chaos

Not always.

>winter assault
>spent the entire game purging orks and chaos scum to secure the titan
>suddenly necrons outta nowhere
>fire up the cannon, boys. lets see what this thing can do.

muh dick

still wanna see some more gameplay and reviews before i dump preorder money on it tho

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>Chapter with a toilet seat for a lcon trying to compare to the single most loyal chapter ever
Fucking Ultrafags

If it sucks you can just refund it.

pls don't bully the poor Tau

I trust Streum On with this. EYE was also a good solo experience, despite being a co-op game. I don't think anyone played it co-op, because you're always going to be the only guy who wants to play EYE.

I don't trust them with good AI, however.

PREPARE TO GET BULLIED, XENO!

It'll technically be Chaos because the Fallen are Chaos Space Marines whose ability to infiltrate and corrupt Imeprial worlds in fluff makes the Alpha Legion's efforts look like the work of a bunch of pseudo loyalist chumps.

I wonder if the devs will include some of the more obscure SM weapons of 40k like grav guns, disintegtration weapons and that one energy weapon that SM used during the great crusade before mass production of bolters (completely forgetting the name).

Fire Warrior 2 Mecha game when?

I forgot, Tau have FTL instead of warp travel right?
Why doesn't Imperium confiscate that technology?

Speaking of the Tau post your face when railguns.
youtube.com/watch?v=StCXrBMl648

I also thought the SM trailer was pretty cool
youtube.com/watch?v=3pxdtigmeDY

God I love the Space Hulk, giant eerie cathedral floating in god knows where

I'm pretty sure the Space Marines have been using bolters since the earliest days of their creation. Even Thunder Warriors used bolters.

Are you sure you're not thinking of the Volkite weapons that the Imperial Army used?

Because Tau Warp skimming is a hell of a a lot slower than Warp travel.
Tau can't into Warp technology.

>20mm gatling gun fired with one hand has lots of recoil
shit, really?

>You move from point A to point B
Wrong, you can explore the maps for relics and such in any way you wish. If you just want to fulfill the objectives, then it might be as simple as from A to B, but then you would miss a huge load of the maps.

L4D in comparison had absolutely linear maps.

The modern Imperium is retarded. Technological advancement has stagnated because they refuse to adopt Xenos tech or deviate too much from what they currently have.

>using xenotech
HERESREEEEEEEEEEE

Games Workshop used to make a Judge Dredd tabletop game, this isn't coincidence

Still slower than Warp travel.

Eldar webway is still the best method of travel.

>mfw inertialess drive got retconned, but not really

They need to clear that shit up.

>I forgot, Tau have FTL instead of warp travel right?
They have very limited warp drives. They can make extremely shallow dips into the warp for short periods before it shits them out.

Dark Angels are the only chapter that has that kind of archaeotech so this would be the best chance

I think one of the other wings utilizes it though, not the deathwing

Because it's shit in comparison to other races FTL. The Tau go faster then light by "Skipping" across the warp. Which is much slower then true warp travel but is safer.

mm gatling gun fired with one hand has lots of recoil

Fired by Terminators. There's a reason they can fire heavy weapons on the move when everyone else has to stop and brace themselves.

If I recall though, the Fallen aren't all chaos worshipping heretics, but rather Dark Angels who were on the wrong side, realized it, but also don't want to get into trouble and death. So they instead hide away living mundane lives.

Yeah I was thinking of volkite weapons but I remember reading that at the beginning the legio astartes primarily used volkite weaponry but due to the difficulty of manufacture and the expenses their primary weapon was switched to the modern iteration of bolters (as in the mass manufactured imperial variant as opposed to the bolters of previous ages).

WHAT IS THE ABSOLUTE BEST FUCKING FACTION AND WHY IS IT IMPERIAL GUARDS

The meta-streum look like tyranids, and you can tell from other things like feel of the gunplay and the devs penchant for making imposing, vertical areas.

Do you have the one with the Guardsmen and the artillery?

I do understand them though. If i had to literally pray to my gun because the rogue AI in it may throw a hissy fit, and without it i die within a minute i wouldn't want to try anything else.

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>just wake up after milleniums of sleep
>get totaly btfo by guardsmen crushed by their tanks and stomped by their artillery

some days you really should stay in your bed

>Not Dark Angels
Sounds like someone's a heretic.

>Cannon fodder

>giant eerie cathedral
Technically, crawling through a hole in the side of that cathedral might find you inside an asteroid, an ork vessel or pretty much anything that floats around in space. Space Hulks are a clusterfuck of anything goes. Generally into your ass.

It's still a huge gun. Even an IFV feels the recoil of an autocannon

Well they feed off the imperium of man.
Bit I see what you are saying. It's how every time there's a superman or batman movie have to do the origin story everyone knows.

I've played Styx and E.Ψ.Ǝ and I know they're competent devs.

I've recently been catching up on WH40K lore, and I was wondering something
If the Horus Heresy never happened, and everyone stayed loyal and the Emperor survived, and Magnus didn't fuck up the golden throne webway project, and all the other shit; would the Imperium be winning the war?
it seems like from reading the lore, humanity was advancing at a RIDICULOUS rate with the perfect man leading them, and the only thing that could beat them was themselves

the heresy fucked up everything from technology, to rampant persecution and fear in it's wake, and taking away someone who was close to a perfect mortal being
I feel like if they never had the heresy as a roadblock, they would have rolled on in force

It also helps that the Tau aren't fully registered by the Daemons, to the extent that other species are.

40k is derivative as fuck for how closely they guard their ip

So what do you guys think is in the Omega vault and what is the Hadex Anomaly?

Space hulks are valuable because they can contain some incredible technologies such as but not limited to STC templates and even one class of imperial battleship was (re)discovered from a space hulk. The issue is though that most of the time they just are such threats that they are better off destroyed.

Take note of the sound bullets make when bouncing off the shield. It's identical. Also some guns sound very similar.

The hulk may hold more than the xenos themselves.

Styx is Cyanide, not Streum-on.

They banned you for talking about politics, you retard, this isn't Cred Forums, the board literally dedicated to politics

Cyanide and Streumon are both making Deathwing

If all that was the case, there probably wouldn't BE much of a war. Emps' mission was to secure humanity's destiny. He didn't consider xenos impure inherently evil monsters, just obstacles that had to be removed if they impeded mankind's growth. An Imperium that stayed true to Emps' ideals would have no issue making alliances and accords with the other factions.

According to Cabal there were two scenarios for the universe
>The Emperor wins and the galaxy is plunged into 10,000 years of stagnation, during which time Chaos will grow steadily more powerful, eventually consuming the galaxy and all living things in it.
>The Emperor dies, Horus wins, and the galaxy is plunged into Chaos. However, Horus's guilt over having killed the Emperor would lead him to self-destructively trying to destroy the human race, and the Chaos Gods, having gorged themselves on human emotions, would collapse along with them; non-human life in the galaxy would survive, however.
They didn't expect Aplha Legion fuck ups though

Cyanide is just producing, meaning giving advices to Streum On.

>Omega vault

GM plot hook.

>Hadex Anomaly

Chaos shit. In Deathwatch it's a GM plot hook.

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And Cyanide helps on Deathwing. Look at other trailers, you'll see their name.

Styx 2
dishonored 2
SPACE HULK DEATHWING

we can all agree that french make the best games
fuck weebs

I'm sure you were the one who hit the report button. I'm sure you are loving the YouTube heroes program

>recently did a Terminator E.Y.E. run
>heavy armour
>minigun (assault cannon)
>HS010 (storm bolter)
>damocles (force sword)
>Hammer
>aim stabilizer (for terminator armour recoil dampening)
>etc

shit was fun, especially playing the monolith map with the enemy spawns set to high, and no spawn limit
it's essentially the prototype for Deathwing

I've completed about two missions of EYE
I like, but I don't know what the fuck is going on, despite reading the lore entries
Should I keep going?

How is that not "both making Deathwing"

> There will never be anything ever going on with Raven Guard or Khans

feels bad

>muh victim complex
Everyone who was talking about politics got banned, not just you

>I don't know what the fuck is going on
That means it's working.

The Tau FTL is slower than the Imperium FTL and can't reach the whole galaxy because how it works. IIRC it's a gravitational mass accelerator, whereas the Imperium, with the help of the Astronomicon Beacon across the Warp, they can basically "teleport" to anywhere.

That is, crossing the fucking Warp with balls and a Navigator with the headache of a hangover, holding the Gellar Fields and the ship together, trying to not get lost in the Immaterium itself.

Also, Tau do not register in the Warp, or at least, almost not. They're too young, called naive, and don't understand Chaos as humanity does, thus, Warp Jumping is not even possible.

>wtf is going on
Nobody knows.

don't try to understand, just follow orders

>two power fists

Yes
You will barely understand anything more though

Eh, warp skimming and gravitational accelerators are for pussies.

Men, real men, as in mankind, cross the fucking Warp and test their faith and mental power like the boss they are.

Nah people post off topic shit all the time. Somefaggot gets upset about trumps face and suddenly the gestapo shows up.

>I like, but I don't know what the fuck is going on

you're doing it right then

You know you are in a tight spot when your navigators head literally explodes while he is plotting a route in the warp though.

Weapon jams are a mechanic in the Space Hulk boardgame IIRC.

>WAAAAAH I'M BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST

Isn't there another EYE guy in heavy armor with a chain gun too? That shit's pretty much a direct reference to 40k.

he's right though

He was deemed unworthy then

We just gotta get ano-sdfsa-gtsghtrgea
LIBE-RATE- T U TEMET E-X INFERIS

I for one am tired of all the bullshit election politics being posted everywhere
I'm glad he got banned for it
I don't give a fuck what side you're on, keep politics in Cred Forums and don't bitch when your offtopic shitposting on Cred Forums gets you banned

don't even try to understand it, I'm not fucking kidding
just roll with it
it get's so metaphysical that it's a fucking pain to figure out if you are you, or if you are crazy or if you are actually the guy you thought was giving you orders or MAYBE YOU DON'T EXIST AT ALL?

none of us know what's going on, but it has all this crazy interesting weird shit going on and pretty decent source shooting gameplay combined with unique elements like the hacking

just don't try to make sense of the truth and deal with wearing someone's stupid fucking face like a party mask

>'umie gitz
>betta den da Orks

The wait is killing me, I've had it preordered since it went up on sale

holy shit, I never expected to see someone repost my OC

Looks bad like all the other warhammer 40k trash thats out

And the game is nothing like what space hulk is supposed to be like
Every other spacehulk game is better and offers closer to source material game design

Nothing in these threads other than retarded eye dickriders which is a shitty game in itself

>the wait is killing me
Me too user, the only other thing I have to look forward to is Shenzhen I/O in a week

How about moving the plot, GeeDubs?

Go play the boardgame you fucking faggot.

True. But doesn't it just go to steam wallet then? And any idea on how long the preorder discount stays in effect for?

Never gonna happen because the Imperium would get fucked

Oh yeah because it worked out the last time they did it...

youtu.be/_-MzNpMD1K8

Big E wakes up

Done

>tfw still not a Squad Based Imperial Guard game where you have to fight tyranids or survive inside a city full of heresy/chaos

Just make Red Orchestra but with lasguns and nids

might as well do that than pretend this looks even remotely like a good game

I think it does go to your Steam wallet, but I know I'll wind up buying more Steam games in the future so it's no biggie.

>And any idea on how long the preorder discount stays in effect for?
No clue. You're only saving $5 if you buy now though, so it won't hurt much if you end up waiting.

The C'tan Shards are still anti-warp (picture related). Aza'gorod is the Nightbringer. Its shard produced a psychic shadow that drowned the Light of Golden Throne

No

I need an explanation in simple words of what Webway travel is. Without memes.

Recoil in videogames must be limited or capped to a heavy degree because the range of motion for a mouse is limited, while pulling downwards with your arm can be done in an unlimited fashion to counter something pulling up. Extreme recoil values arbitrarily prevent someone from firing more than short bursts because they run out of mousepad or table, and it can vary from person to person depending on their sensitivity settings. Very janky in this day and age.

Pretty sure Necron inertialess drive is faster than Webway travel

They just have to calculate realspace objects n' sheit.

>mfw inertialess drive got retconned, but not really

Don't be a dumbass. I have no doubt that it has been explained to a under times. Newcron inertialess drives are near-light.

Necrons use the Webway for FTL travel.

Stop it.

The Tau method DOES NOT interact with the Warp in anyway. The Tau skim drives skim the void between reality and the Warp.

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>and the Chaos Gods, having gorged themselves on human emotions, would collapse along with them

How so? chaos gods feed on all life not just humans

they would be weaker not destroyed

Use google.

Genestealers have rending claws, which means their armor is about as protective as wrapping your dick in a napkin to fuck a chainsword.

>and don't understand Chaos

The Ethereals know about Chaos and have elected to use the same weapon the Emperor used against Chaos to protect their people.

Ignorance is the greatest weapon against Chaos, according to the Emperor. So the Tau will be alright.

Genestealer claws are absurdly sharp, like one molecule thick

Just quotting but my guess is that after Horus would win the chaos gods would switch to human souls diet so extensievly that they'd become dependant on it and when Horus launches his second tantrum they'd be fucked.

jesus christ that heavy flamer mmmmhmmmm

It is true that I killed my mentor... and yet, I am not his murderer.

Chaos is very invested in humanity. If Humanity i destroyed, then Chaos would be greatly diminished.

This is according to the Daemons codex. They wouldn't disappear but they won't be as a great galaxy ending threat as they are now.

This will give the Eldar and other xenos enough time to build up their civilizations in peace.

It's not like automatic fire is accurate in the real world either.

All the daemons, warpfuckery and such require something to "power" them up, right? If their fuel suddenly ran out, the chaos gods would be drained to oblivion. This is how I understand it. The chaos gods themselves need the fuel too.

>Ignorance is the greatest weapon against Chaos, according to the Emperor. So the Tau will be alright.

About that...

The Ethereals are Tzeentch tainted
Horus wounding and not killing the Emperor was Tzeentch's will, that way it ensures a millenia of almost dying but not really, Chaos thrives
Tzeentch is all

Tzeentch knows it all

Tzeentch has already won

why is everyone too chickenshit to make a proper 40k RPG or MMO

Nope.

They are near-light and the Newcron codex says that the Necrons without the Webway are DOOMED to Isolation.

Going FTL is for races who mastered the Warp. Non-psychic races need no apply.

Or has he? Maybe the objective isn't "winning"

Eldar inherited some kind of crazy pocket dimension parallel to our own. It allows them to travel without dealing with warp entities. The emperor was working on his own version of the webway when Magnus fucked everything up and opened a rift that connected the human webway with the warp.

>Ward-fluff

discarded

The Eldar have a network of "tunnels" through the warp made of dimensional psychic fuckery.

>I have no doubt that it has been explained to a under times

English, mate.

The intertialess drive still exists, along with the Dolmen gates. Inertialess drive shows up in Shield of Baal, but it's not clear exactly how fast it is. You're behind on your lore.

Because GW are jews who demand insane amounts from the developers income

Is it possible to access the human webway, even if it is filled with warp? Could the connection to the warp be severed somehow?

I am most definitely buying this day one.

If anyone won it's da Orkz
Their endgame is to keep fighting

Despite the weak sound design I'm hyped.

Chaos is our conciousness in the other side.

It's that voice that whispers behind your head when you're alone. It knows you, because you're it. You have always been part of it.

Stupid and the ignorant don't hear it that often because they don't know. But you do.

And it wants you to be you, nothing more.

The Emperor is a lie. He tries to keep you from becoming what you truly can be. Enlightened, enhanced, better.

Only The Powers can give you that, if you accept the Power is within you.

Surrender to your inner desires.

>RPG
Maybe.
>MMO
Meme genre destined for failure.

No and no. Big E is the only one who knew how to use it and it wasn't finished anyway. One of the reasons why the golden throne is needed is because E is holding the webway shut in order to prevent warp entities from emerging from it and faceraping Terra.

I'm not talking about accuracy, I'm talking about keeping the weapon pointed at the target instead of the ceiling. The weapon's inaccuracy can be handled by an increasing spread function but having it push the aim upwards towards the ceiling without limits really does not provide anything good for the player, gameplay or immersion wise.

Explained to you*

You are the same guy which had the same argument with the other guy on the same subject.

Hammer and Anvil gave us the speed of the Inertialess drives in 5th ED. They are near-light. So end this meme.

youtube.com/watch?v=LdEX_q31_-g

>Necron inertialess drive is faster than Webway travel

It was incredibly, amazingly fast, back when it was still a thing. Easily Star Trek levels of fast.

But the Webway is still faster simply for the fact that it allows you to avoid even having to cross the distance. It's like beating an Olympic level athlete in a race, just by taking a shortcut.

>Is it possible to access the human webway, even if it is filled with warp? Could the connection to the warp be severed somehow?
You'd have to go to the war rift in Terra and close it somehow. The main reason the Emperor isn't healing from the golden throne is because he's powering the Astronomican AND focusing on keeping the warp rift from expanding 24/7 while the Custodes spend their entire lives killing any daemon that gets through. All of this is happening right inside the Emperor's palace on Terra and nobody knows outside of the Custodes and the Emperor himself.

The sound design leaves something to be desired.
I was of the impression that a Bolter should sound like the Emperor slamming his car door every time it fires.

> he's powering the Astronomican AND focusing on keeping the warp rift

for the 999999th time. The Emperor does not power the Astronomican. The Choir powers it. He just guides it through the Warp.

Has it?

Or maybe it's part of the Great Scheme after all.

Who knows, maybe Tzeentch is the madness itself. He has won by not winning.

>You are the same guy which had the same argument with the other guy on the same subject.

No. In this thread? Definitely not.

>Hammer and Anvil gave us the speed of the Inertialess drives

Haven't read it.

>They are near-light

Shield of Baal clearly contradicts this, then. They cross from one end of a star system to the other in near instant time (maybe a couple minutes?).

>So end this meme

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and simply get your information from threads like this. Please stop posting.

WE ARE THE GODS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER
WE ARE THE SOLDIERS, THE LEGION OF LIGHT
WE ARE THE CENTER, THE DEATH OF THE SUN
FIRE AND FLAME. WE ARE ONE.

so i hated left 4 dead. convince me that this will be good

Logging into YT an brings about the wrath of the Emperor:
youtube.com/embed/f6hSES1tlt0

>l4d l4d l4d l4d
I'm thinking sven co-op more then anything.

No. Why anyone would?

Go to another discussion

Looks like a lot of fun but performance looks shit in that video so gonna wait, sick of buying unoptimized games.

>I was of the impression that a Bolter should sound like the Emperor slamming his car door every time it fires.
The hard part when you're in charge of sounds design for fictional weapon is that you don't know how they sound.

I thought it was possible for the webway to be extremely slow due to time distortion, with ships occasionally arriving years late after being in the warp for what was (on the ships' end) a few days.

so basically atheism, right?

Only thing he's won so far is a power foot up his ass if he don't stop talking

No, you are the same guy.

>Haven't read it.

Read it.

>They cross from one end of a star system to the other in near instant time (maybe a couple minutes?).

No, they don't. IIRC, they outran the explosion only using the engines.

The 5th ED codex and the WD article in 7th ED about Necron space travel make it clear that Necrons would be fucked without the Webway. They will be forced to use their slow drives which will doom them to isolation.

no

really need xcom type game set in warhammer

That's the warp. The webway is a different thing (but still related).

Well it should be a no brainer to assume that a really big gun should make a really loud noise.

I wish I knew how to mod, because I'd love to make a space hulk map pack for SC

Heresy is like a tree, its roots lie in the darkness whilst its leaves wave in the sun and to those who suspect nought, it has an attractive and pleasing appearance. Truly, you can prune away its branches, or even cut the tree to the ground, but it will grow up again ever the stronger and ever more comely. Yet all awhile the root grows thick and black, gnawing at the bitter soil, drawing its nourishment from the darkness, and growing even greater and more deeply entrenched.

Such is the nature of heresy, and this is why it is so hard to destroy, for it must be eradicated leaf, branch, trunk and root. It must be exorcised utterly or it will return all the stronger, time and time again, until it is too great to destroy. Then we are doomed.

Make him repent, Asmodai

Shoulda gave the sound design to Frictional
The sound job they did with Soma was better than the game itself.

Most autistic intro ever

BULLSHIT

ULTRA FAILED ATTACK

so its a co-op shooter?

Storm bolters in overwatch you will shoot each time a stealer moves into any tile you can see, throwing 2d6 on each shot, hitting on any 5+. but the bolter will jam whenever the 2 dice matches. Assault cannons overheat and will plain blow up if you roll 3 matching dice at any time after first reload.

you don't have to like that game
you don't like any game
you just have to like your pitiful self enough to keep living, user

Space hulk kinda

>No, you are the same guy.

Stop acting like a retard.

>Read it.

Why would I read Black Library stuff that is contradicted by actual GW rule books?

>No, they don't. IIRC, they outran the explosion only using the engines.

Ah, I see you haven't read anything and are just bullshitting. Anrakyr used the inertialess drive to enter the system before there was any fighting. There was no explosion to outrun.

>make it clear that Necrons would be fucked without the Webway

That's not in question, the distance between star systems is far, far greater than between single planets in a system. However, your claims that the inertialess drive are near light, when obvious examples of it going faster than light are given, makes you look like a bit of a fool.

So please don't act like you know what you are talking about, and try reading something other than shitty BL novels.

Age of Sigmar game when?

>flamer doesn't shoot liquid fire

"Atheism" is an egocentrical worship by the young spawned fedoras, making them look like hypocrites and fools

So yes, it's like pottery

It does tho

Chaos Gate

so it's just a standard l4d clone then. got it. i suppose i should expect epic failure like with vermintide. shame =/

according to lore
>it does in gel form

>Surrender to your inner desires.
Mmmm...

I'm pretty disappointed as well that its just a co-op game but tbf l4d had horrible gunplay and this seems at least good in that department

So more like KF than l4d

Better than Islam senpai

>Stop acting like a retard.

Stop trying to deny you are the sane guy raising the same arguments and making the same mistakes.

>Why would I read Black Library stuff that is contradicted by actual GW rule books?

Matt Ward helped in writing the novel. He gave the author the facts about the Newcrons. He included in the novel special thanks.

>Ah, I see you haven't read anything and are just bullshitting.

No, tou are the one bullshitting. They crossing the Ice region doesn't mean they had FTL.

> However, your claims that the inertialess drive are near light, when obvious examples of it going faster than light are given,

There is not a single example of them going FTL.

And the moment you start doing math, is the moment you admit defeat because GW fails at scale and math.

My inner desire is to purge the unclean

Your move, chaos scum

I wonder how they are going to make jams work, my bet is they are going to make something similar to space hulk ascension

>epic

probably the best possible option for an Imperial Guard game.

>it's a trilby

>xcom style game where you have to navigate 1000000 soldiers through open field overwatch hell

Why not just Deathwatch game? Squads are smaller and more varied.

>Stop trying to deny you are the sane guy

Please stop being retarded.

>They crossing the Ice region doesn't mean they had FTL.

So were they crossing the ice field or were they outrunning an explosion?

The distance from the edge of the system to the tomb world was greater than the length of the system itself. It outran any of the Tyranid ships and placed them in orbit, minutes after Anrakyr decided to go to their aid.

For comparison, it takes light from the sun five hours to reach Pluto. Lets say it was a fifth of that distance from Anrakyr to his destination. That would take an hour, and he got their in minutes. That is not 'near' light speeds. That is faster than light.

The only person who fails at math here, is you.

Cont'ed

lets see the quotes from the Shield of Baal.

>Turning his fleet toward the glinting crimson orbs of Cryptus, Anrakyr engaged his inertialess drive, his vast Necron armada streaking off into the void. Unlike the ships of the Imperium, those of the Necrons did not travel through the Warp, and so the great psychic barrier cast out by the Hive Mind was no impediment to their fleet. Likewise, the Aegis Diamando, so deadly to life, registered only as a minor spatial anomaly to Anrakyr’s Crypteks. With ice still flaking from their vessels, the Necrons descended upon Perdita. There they found that the first Necrons had already awoken, and had scattered a human landing force. Anrakyr himself went down onto the snow-covered planet to meet its masters and assess the situation.

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>Only the Necrons weathered the cataclysm unscathed. On Asphodex, moments before the wave struck, Anrakyr’s armies phased out – returning to the war-crypts of Perdita. To the Tyranids and Blood Angels it was as if the Necrons had been blown away upon the celestial winds, their forms becoming ghostly outlines before vanishing altogether. Zarathusa’s host also escaped the destruction of Aeros, phasing back to their fleet of harvest ships before engaging their inertialess drives and outrunning the shockwave in a flare of relativistic energy. Safe beneath a mile of snow and ice on their tomb world, the Necron Overlords watched with satisfaction as the Tyranid tendril headed for the planet was swept away like so much dust. Across the system, when the wave reached the Magnovitrium, its mirrors shattered into a billion fragments and the Burning One soared free to feed upon the solar winds.

It says nothing about them being FTL.

Am I the only one who really digs L4D? This looks similar but with better looking weapons, plus you clearly get abilities in this game and the whole limb damage system with terminator movement spices things up and prevents it from being an atypical shooter.

No way in hell

We need weak ones to raise us with their shoulders above. I speak to you, but only to you, because you are my favorite, and the best of them all.

You are special. You know you are, you have always been. I am your voice.

Let it be heard then. Plan and scheme with me to become unshackled, from the lies they speak to you and how they use you like a tool.

Use them instead, lost in their games, knowing the rules and dictating the game itself.

Make them believe they hear it as well, only to push yourself forward.

Become human again.

Yes, better than being an ak-baller

The best template for an Imperial Guard game would be Battalion Wars.

not everything about the Imperial Guard has to be a massive 10,000 man battle.

>Please stop being retarded.

Stop being a liar.

>The only person who fails at math here, is you.

And GW because they don't care about it or scale. See the growth of the Tau Empire.

>So were they crossing the ice field or were they outrunning an explosion?

Both. See Going all nerd on me won't prove anything. Find me a source that says that their drives exceed light speed.

Slaanesh, crawl up my bunghole plz. there is alien beans and plebs to kill.

This place is getting too heretical...

Chaos a shit. Machine God is where it's at.

>inb4 "Machine God is a C'tan" deflection

...

>implying E-money isn't the omnissiah

What are those tubes for?

+lore
+space muhrines

In a story, a Admech group stole a C'tan shard from the Necrons and started worshiping it.

so basically Apple Inc.?

Heresy you say?

I ONLY SPEAK THE TRUTH

YOU WERE BORN HUMAN, YOU WON'T DIE LIKE A SLAVE FOR A CORPSE AND THE CORRUPT, BUT FREE AND POWERFUL

>being incapable of doing simple math
>being incapable of figuring things out on your own
>being incapable of admitting you got btfo

Next time, come prepared.

>with shitton of weapons to play
source? i can't find any claim that you can earn new weapons (not shitty reskins)

Tzeentch, stop pls

Slaanesh is livelier than you... you're creeping me out

You're making too much sense, i just want to party

I've always dreamed of an RTS MMO where you command a squad or an entire company of men instead of a single character.

RTS games are too tiresome when you have to micro everything, but I want those huge battles - and FPS games aren't huge at all.

Just imagine commanding a squad of 12 Imperial Guardsmen, with the Commissar customized to your liking, with the battle of over a thousand combatants raging around them. You're trying to save as many of them as you can to eventually forge a formidable veteran force out of them and then a cash shop daemon player comes through the warp right in front of you

>freeze frame
>now you're probably wondering how I got into this situation...

>That Datasmith
>"Geez, magos. How come the Omnissiah let's you have THREE arms?"

so optimization will be shit... fucking great no preorder from me, devs have no fucking clue how to make well optimized ue4 game at least not yet

>AdMech isn't and NEVER EVER will be a faction in any 40k game ever

Not arguments.

You failed to deliver any proof and proven a liar because none of the text says the Necrons crossed the system in an instant.

In fact, the text puts the speed of the drives at "relativistic" which means approaching light speed which means near-light which is what was said in Hammer and Anvil.

You got wrekt.

...

Looks to perfect to be honest. Looks like there's nothing that could go wrong but
>marines not shouting FOR THE EMPEROR after defeating their foes

Uh, dawn of war?

I thought they were. They were going to add the Primarchs again. Plus they fucked over the Craftworld Eldar.

But Death Masque happened

They expanding the 13th Black Crusade lore (For the last time, EoT was retconned) by releasing the 13th Black Crusade campaign book series.

This series will introduce the traitor primarchs to 40K however for them to be relevant they must manifest freely and this requires the Eye to grow and this requires Cadia to fall.

Who is hype for the fall of Cadia?

>epic

ok guys let's play a game
draw your favorite unit with that
piskelapp.com/
i'm starting

There's no attachment to those battles or progression from one to the next, and you're not really fighting side by side with anyone.

Developing your own character and his squad through battles, with all your soldiers listed and named even after their death, being miraculously rescued by a friendly Leman-Russ from a daemon that was about to wipe your squad out... I want those kinds of things. And of course, the war should be persistent. Kinda like in Heroes & Generals, Shattered Galaxy or Planetside, just bigger.

looking metal

>Fall of Cadia
Chaosfags are really so deluded

>traitor primarchs

Fuck no. That'll just make shit boring.

Let them stay in 30k where they belong.

SHUT THE FUCK UP TZEENCH

HE'S TRYING USE YOU IMBECILE FUCKS

EGO IS THE WEAKNESS OF CHARACTER

FOR THAT, DISCIPLINE AND STRENGTH IS THE ANSWER

STRONG IN MIND AND BODY, THEY WON'T USE YOU

I GUIDE THE AXE THAT RENDERS THE WEAK AND THE STRONG TO YOUR FEET. NEVER STOP THE LIFE THAT FLOWS WITHIN YOU, BUT STOP THOSE WHO WANT TO FEED UPON YOU

MAIM THEM, KILL THEM, BURN THEM, THIS IS THE TRUTH IN LIFE, ONLY THE STRONGEST SURVIVES

The flamer spews promethium, which is similar to napalm.

they still cant make the gameplay as good as space marine

resizing

Traitor Primarchs made appearances after the HH.

Angron led a massive invasion.

Morty destroyed a system and was defeated by Draigo.

Pert destroyed a system and joined Abaddon in one of his Black Crusades.

Magnus invaded Fenris. He will invade it again most likely in Curse of the Wulfen 2.

Sounds like you need to play some fucking tabletop

>Angron led a massive invasion.
>Morty destroyed a system and was defeated by Draigo.

And both of these were just to hype of how great Grey Knights are. And (surprise!) Grey Knights can also be incredibly boring.

But
Ace Combat 7, if it'll ever to be released.

...

A flamethrower filled with napalm fires globs of flame that fall to the ground and stick to surfaces. The fire doesn't evaporate in the air like in OP's video.

It'd be great if the surviving loyalist Primarchs returned too.

I had no idea that the Chaos Gods have such a huge victim complex.

Maybe if you weren't such ASSHOLES everyone around you wouldn't try to kill you.

I want everyone to play the same war at the same time. And tabletop is too much work. There's no-one to play with here either.

Reminder that the main influence for the gameplay is SWAT 4 of all games.

Thank the emperor for this glorious game, his will demands it.