Is he "our" king?

The fact that this bitch is still alive infuriates me so fucking much.

>Voljin dead
>Wrynn dead
>Cairn dead
>Kael dead
>Arthas dead
>Sylvanas still alive
>Sylvanas is warchief

Will he offer us 3 lies?

Is there a more cucked man in Azeroth?

Probably, since you seem to not know what the word means.

Illidumb

>alive

>Horde """"""""""""""""""""warchief""""""""""""""""""
>gets killed by a single trash mob

>alliance are cuckservatives
>horde are libcucks

third faction when
illicuck cuckrage

>lasted for one expansion
>did LITERALLY nothing
>died to a shitty random demon

Good job Blizzard, you never fail to disappoint with your incapability to write anything halfway decent.

Yes, though he is young and inexperienced, he needs the help of the other leaders, Genn and Velen would be good advisors.

>All the Alliance leaders have formed a pact to NEVER let Tyrande or Malfurion lead anything ever again
Wait, why? What happened?

>killed
>implying

>Vol'jin yells: Hah. Darkspear never die.

>Bolvar is Alex Jones

>Wait, why? What happened?
I think he's just saying that Tyrande and Malfurion are infamous for being really terrible leaders

...

Demons son.

After that one scenario in MoP showing that she still knows fucking nothing about war even after all the shit she has been through, really made me think bizzard has no idea what they are doing with some characters.

>Cairn dead
Hol up
I haven't played WoW, please tell me you're joking

Give me the skinny on the paladin specs in Legion.

You are not my king yet, boy. Nor would I obey that command if you were!

Cairn been dead since MoP, Garrosh 1v1 him but his axe was poisoned

Not gonna happen
Stay mad faggot lmao

when can i finally play as a jewish neutral goblin?

Haven't played in years, that model looks fucking terrible. Jesus. Is there a reason (for what I'm assuming is Anduin) looks so ugly?

garrosh became warchef, cairn challenged him to a duel magatha grimtotem (leader of the bad tauren) poisoned garrosh's axe without his knowledge in hopes she and garrosh can rule kalimdor, cairne was winning the fight but succumbed to the poison, garrosh found out and with the help of baine, banished magatha this all happened in a book
then I must consider this an act, of treason

they're still gay

pretty hard to get more cucked that illidan

why didn't he reincarnate

>Saurfang wasn't made Warchief instead of Garrosh "Full Retard" Hellcream

To what fucking end?

im so glad this word has no meaning anymore.

Nepotism on Thrall's part. He picked Garrosh entirely because he was Grom's son.

reinwhat? sorry im kind of in a coke daze here

>Strongest shamans around
>Strongest druids around
>Leader dies to poison
>Grimtotem conveniently has access to Garrosh' weapon
>He doesn't notice a thing, just picks up his weapon and starts swinging it
Bullshit writing at it's finest.

all in all thrall was a fucking terrible leader who made one lucky call (listening to a crazy hobo wizard)

>He doesn't notice a thing, just picks up his weapon and starts swinging it

Garrosh was never known for being smart or perceptive.
But yeah, the writing is garbage.

ayy

>tfw not even one legendary yet
>someone has got 4 in the last 5 days

blizzard why?

>live over 10000 years
>still complete dumbfucks
How do nelfs manage it?

Except it's somewhat valid here
>Loves Tyrande
>Loses her to his brother
>Turns to the demon's side to try and get her back
>It fails
>Turn back to their side to try and get her still
>It also fails, he gets jailed for all his bullshit instead
>She frees him after 10.000 years
>He tries once again to win her affection away from his brother
>It fails and he gets banished

So much pitiful angst over being rejected for your own brother, there isn't a more pathetic character in WoW And retarded teens loved him so much, it was retarded

it was on cooldown

There are a vast number of characters that would make better leaders.

One day, Tauren are just going to have enough of the Horde's bullshit and just go apeshit on everyone. They're already great shamans, druids and hunters. If they had the kind of bloodlust that orcs had, they'd steamroll fucking everything. Instead, they sit above Mulgore and fuck around like pussies; take some god damned initiative.

They should have a Pandaren leader

Maybe those new moooose and their complete Mary Sue bullshit will kick things off.

>Still no human monk characters

Fuck, I just want a cool Kung Fu movie mentor who trains in waterfalls and shit

It's even more infuriating knowing that Slyvanas has died at least 3 times.

Once as an elf, once as a banshee, and the third time she actually killed herself and realized being dead was worse than being undead, so now, she's trying to live forever.

Vol'jin said it best, never trusted that bitch, never will. Even NOW this bitch is making backhand deals with Helya and not telling anyone about them then attemps to enslave the val'kyr you just helped throughout the whole zone. What the fuck, man. She only got the position because of seniority at this point. She is the WORST possible leader for the horde.

>alliance are pussies who cant finish off their enemies
>hordies are weak and useless with a psycho bitch as a warchief
>light was completely cucked by demons
>demon hunter are the butt of the joke

meanwhile
>DKs are more powerful than ever with their own Lich King ready to fuck shit up. No longer the edgelord class even

why havent you joined the ebon troops yet?

>hyjal style multiple-raid group instance
>heroically kill of all the important lore characters in a "desperate" defense
>final boss is some culmination of all the actions that players did in WoW
>all the raids work together on him
>boss somehow triggers Draenor-tier land destruction right before he dies
>Nozdormu comes and "fixes" everything
>resets time back to post-Warcraft 3

Then again War4 would be fucked either way, as the only open end of Warcraft 3 is Faction conflict, fuckbuddies in Outland and Arthas, and if we continue WoW storyline then you are pretty much fucked beyond, with only option being to put the game in the far future or do like War of the Ancients or maybe do some Trollbane shit with the Amanis.

>Never trusted that bitch, never will.
>Let's nominate her for Warchief!
Yup, sounds reasonable.

Imagine if Kael was leader of the Blood Elves not the weak willed faggot they have now. He'd have that fuck Sylvanas in line.

Garithos didn't die for this shit

Wowfags, is the new lich king better than arthas?

>Steps: 1. Sheep one mob in each of the five Broken Isles zones: Azsuna - Cliffwing Hippogryph Highmountain - Highpeak Goat Stormheim - Plains Runehorn Calf Suramar - Heartwood Doe Val'sharah - Wild Dreamrunner
>2. Blinking toward the portal to Dalaran in mage class hall and then displacing backward has a chance for Cote Metcalf to generate a message and a sheep to spawn in your class hall near you. If you are AK6 and this doesn't work you can try it over and over by relogging after each failed attempt (not sure if this is bugged or not).
>3. Spam click the spawned sheep until it explodes.
>4. Go to Stormheim and find a Volatile Elwynn Sheep north of Greywatch...spam click it until it explodes.
>5. Go to the tower of Azora in Elywnn Forest where an event will take place...you will get the skin.

what the fuck did blizzard mean by this

Because they can't move anymore?

Fuck you nigger, Lor'themar is GOAT

lor'themar is an alliance cuck

He's not the one that had to beg massa Garithos not to kill him for buddying up with the snake people

blood elves and the forgotten are the true alliance, man can't cuck himself

JUST MAKE SAURFANG WARCHIEF AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>how do nelf manage it
>essentially devolved trolls obessed my the moon
>muh nature

They're horde-tier savages that's how.

>Doesn't even want to rule
>Won't let people call him King because he knows only a Sunstrider is fit to rule
>Everyone in the Horde walks all over him
>Still loyal to the Horde even though it would make more sense at this point to join the Alliance
>Can't even do magic

Why did we even kill Arthas if we're just going to get another Lich King?

>Can't even do magic
And yet he's still the strongest leader in the Horde and is presented as the equal of Jaina Proudmoore, an archmage.

Lor'themar doesn't deserve the shit he gets.

Why did we ever need another Lich King if we could just systematically eradicate all of the undead, why couldn't we just have Bolvar force all the undead to self-destruct or kill each other, and then kill himself?

Because shit writing. That's why.

I can take him being a mary sue, but Huln Highmoutain wasn't even interesting; they could have told me a potato killed countless demons and killed Tichondrius amd it would have had the same effect. Ebonhorn was pretty cool amd he just bounces right before the final boss in Neltharion's Lair.

Anyway, the Bloodhoof were apparently the only ones that had a fighting spirit and they were retarded and joined the Legion, so I doubt Highmountain will be anything other than "jingle-keys" for Tauren fans.

Because arthas was going to destroy azeroth and bolvar isn't?

Who made that and where can I get more?

I'm referring to him in the middle of MOP

OFFICIAL WOW RACE FULL RETARD POWER RANKINGS

1. Undead
2. Orcs
3. Night Elves
POWER GAP
4.Gnomes
5. Worgen
6. Blood Elves
POWER GAP
6. Humans
7. Dwarves
POWER GAP
8. Trolls
9. Tauren
10. Pandas

>implying Bolvar isn't going to kill everyone after the Legion is dealt with

>Loses her to his brother
That would imply he ever had her in the first place, which he didn't.

Why would Bolvar do that? even Mograine said he thinks we are "his" Death Knights

>worgen
>not shit tier

Do you honestly think Lor could take Kael 1v1 mid lane?

> THERE MUST ALWAYS BE A LICHKING
> But there wasn't even one 10 years ago
> ..........

Ya, I want to see more Vampire bitches though.

kael would just run away and switch lanes

He seems to think otherwise, which is still wrong of course, but that just leads to the mentality that Illidan is a cuck.

They don't do dumb shit most of the time, they just go apeshit when Sylvanas is involved, and with good cause.

Because the reason for having another Lich King was that the Scourge would destroy everything if left unchecked. Bolvar could have just destroyed them if he wanted.

>Why would Bolvar do that?
Why would Bolvar do ANYTHING at this point?

>why couldn't we just have Bolvar force all the undead to self-destruct or kill each other, and then kill himself?
>"There must always be a Lich King"
cuz the scourge n shit

>They don't do dumb shit most of the time
>LETS BUILD A WALL AROUND GILNEAS!
Come now user.

I'm okay with him. Can't fucking stand Varian though.
>wotlk comes out
>try out DK
>break free of Arthas' control
>win battle against his forces
>cruise down, tell this to varian
>he tells me he'll make me a stain on the floor
>whatthefuckdidyoujustsaytome.jpg
>bitch as cunt making cheap threats after he knows we're cool
>never defend stormwind again from horde
Never knew why their writers thought this was a good idea.

>eradicate all of the undead

>Hey Bolvar, why don't you just make the Scourge just kill themselves?
>"FUCK YOU! THERE MUST ALWAYS BE A LICH KING!"

It worked for a long time, though.

>Dwarves
>Less retarded than "YOU KNOW WHAT LET'S FUCKING SUMMON THE SNAKE AGAIN KEK!" Trolls.

Are you kidding? The closest thing Sylvanas had to genuine non-undead allies in the horde were the Blood Elves under Kael's rule. There's still a portal between Undercity and Belfland due to this relatively close relationship based on a mutual misunderstanding.

The only reason Sylvanas helped the Belfs join the horde was because she felt she owed them for her actions while she was under control of the scourge. Meanwhile, the Belfs felt indebted to her because of her wartime actions before she became scourge.

If either side ever realized the other's reasons for their relatively close alliance compared to the rest of the horde, it'd fall apart in a heartbeat, and it's hilarious.

Just a reminder that the Tauren were fragmented tribes that were getting their shit pushed in by the fucking centaur until Thrall and his dindus helped them.

It's the Emu vs Australia War in the Warcraft universe

So when we will have porn with Sylvannas doing /ss/ with Anduin ?

>It worked for a long time, though.

a few years and then bit them in the ass massively

The wall that kept out the undead until catacalysm? Am I missing something here? Building it may have been cowardly but how was it stupid, everything outside of it got destroyed.

Why would you want to be associated with the stupidity that is Azeroth?

sometimes I dream about what warcraft 4 story could be if there was no WoW.

>Human campaign is Jaina rebuilding Dalaran and uniting all humans into a new republic while reclaiming lost lands
>Orc campaign is idk maybe more Thrall shaman shenanigans
>Undead campaign is Arthas invading Azeroth
>Nelf campaign is fighting inside emerald nightmare

>wow lore
>being discussed as if it were canon

"You believe that you are in control, that your will is your own... Yet you do as He commands. You exist by His whim alone. You imagine yourself to be free, but you will always be His instrument."

What did arthas mean by this?

Shamans were allowed to buff the duelists' weapons before the fight. You can say Gorehowl was overbuffed

Also, the poison didnt kill Carine, it made him dizzy and weak and Garrosh cut him down. No druid or sham can detox that.

Yeah but I mean, the other side of the coin is
>Don't build wall
>Become Undead now instead.

>aristocrat creating a republic

>Whole outside world gets destroyed
>Could've helped, could have prevented it, but nah fuck it the whole world can burn down around us we'll somehow be fine
It was a dumb plan that worked better than it had any right to.

GET A ROPE!

>wanting some random OC memelord instead of Cairne "I Can Cause Army-Destroying Earthquakes With One Stomp" Bloodhoof
I hate what WoW has done to the Warcraft universe so fucking much it hurts me to think I ever cared at all.

maybe they shouldn't have abandoned the alliance when it needed them the most then

she is too timid to be a monarch so I figuered it would the most fitting option for her

Why would they fight a duel to the death in the first place?

>"Go ransack Light's hope & raise Tirion's corpse"
>Darion: I Dunno Deathlord, that sounds pretty fucking evil
>Darion: Oh but the Lich King said it? sounds like a plan then!

...

>creates a republic
>timid

Are you excited for the upcoming N'zoth Hour of Twilight expansion?

>That character design.

I wasn't onboard with sylvannas being warchief until I saw how butthurt it made alliance players.

>Mfw alliance love genn for throwing bodies and resources at her against his king's wishes
>Mfw alliance believe we are going to fight her in a raid

Gonna be some good shit when Genn and or Jaina turn out to be the baddies.

remember this?
a.pomf.cat/eizgsv.webm

Wait, what don't you understand? Varians hostility towards the scourge or...?

>mfw blizzard writing
>inb4 people complain about Elf Fatigue

what is the current powerlevel chart for faction leaders?

And I'm referring to Kael'thas

>It's a "retards believe the paranoia inducing blade" episode

Tyrande then a huge gap and everyone else.

>Lich King and Scourge are greatest threat on Azeroth
>Greatest champion of the Scourge defiling a corpse of an Alliance hero walks into your keep
>Tells you "Nah no, that's the OTHER Scourge, I'm a good guy. Totally. Honestly."
>Expecting him to believe you

Lets say you're King. A death knight comes up and tells you they're out from under Arthas' control and they'd like to join the alliance. Do you...

A. Be happy and accept
B. Make cheap fucking threats

It wasn't supposed to be a dual to the death. Please excuse the sperging that's about to happen

Cairne heard about garrosh being put in charge and (reasonably) said "That's retarded."
So then cairne goes all the way to orgrimmar and says "you're retarded, i challenge you to mok'gora" or something like that, which was originally a battle to the death, but thrall or someone changed it so it wasn't a battle to the death.
Then garrosh says "Ok but let's make it a battle to the death" because he think if he pretends his dick is huge enough cairne'll back off
He did not

Velen could push Tyrande's shit in

that was a fun map

Well even if they rolled back now it wouldn't make sense.
>What about Ragnaros?
>What about Qiraji?
>What is Illifag doing in Outland, shouldn't he be invading by now?
>What is Arthas doing these days I wonder
>Where did Deathwing fuck off to?
>What happened in Pandaland without player intervention?

You could theoretically all blame it on Infinite dragonflight fuckery and I would be satisfied, but I'm absolutely not interested in killing Arthas or Illidian or anything that I've already killed 4 times a month for purples in the past.

>Trusting the Alliance
>Literally just watch as the leader gets killed by his son and becomes the Lich King

this

I'd go with C. End it before shit goes terribly wrong further down the line.

Saurfang too old. If saurfang junior hadn't died at the wrathgate and then ICC thrall would've picked him

>Bolvar tells Tirion to keep his fucking mouth shut about what went down
>For some reason all the DKs know exactly what went down

NIGGAS BE SNITCHIN

>has done literally nothing so far this expansion
>has 3 songs devoted to him
Why?

homies ride together

homies die together

Turning Kael against his own people was a massive mistake. BC was fucking retarded lorewise in hindsight. It set us on the path to all of this shit.

Fucking Thrall was cool about it. I was ENCAILLA4EFIL and that shit pissed me off. If both of them were dicks, okay. Instead, the goddamned Orc was bro-tier and the human was a cheap thug.

Velen can't do shit because his pocket alien crystal obelisk god is dead, also he just melted his own son. He's a mess.

? That's not the dagger whispering

he's been using his spare time to compose music

it's true

Okay, so how did Garrosh not get shamed and demoted for using a poisoned weapon? Even if he arguably didn't know about it, that's still gross incompetence and negligence on his part, and he clearly proved then and there he lacked any capacity to be a Warchief of the horde.

No? No consequences for extreme ineptitude? Okay then....

Okay I'll humor you, asshat.
Knowing that Death Knights are Scourge who destroyed the complete northern half of my kingdom, I'de probably smite you myself. unless you have a recommendation of the greatest paladin then currently alive. then I'de reluctantly accept. Scourgescum.

>Horde go into the thick of it first
>Pretty much constant fighting with swarms of demons
>Baine and Thrall constantly being barraged by space ships in low orbit
>Sylvannas literally has to tell varian to stop talking to gul'dan and fight
>Varian and the alliance fart around with a few bats until the horde can't hold the flank any longer
>WOW OKAY HORDE WHY DIDN'T YOU SACRIFICE ALL YOUR LIVES SO WE COULD FALL DEEPER INTO GUL'DAN'S TRAP? LOL TRAITORS

C. "I don't believe you."

Velen can't even protect a fucking windchime.
>Can't predict shit despite being a prophet

Cairne "Balls Like A Bronzebeard" Bloodhoof

Well, to be fair everyone else in the Horde basically told him he's a gay ass nigger and that he needs to sleep with one eye open after that.

>Lordaeron
>Varian's kingdom

Allies nonetheless

>Jaina went from a literal traitor and a weak leader who was a disgrace to her father to absolutely based

What went right?

>the Scourge would destroy everything if left unchecked
No it fucking wouldn't. The retard writers at Blizzard can say that until they're blue in the face but the fact THAT WE HAVE ALL WITNESSED REPEATEDLY is that it couldn't get the fucking job done when it was backed by the Legion. Now they've lost the allegedly limitless resources of the Legion, the power and experience of Arthas at the helm, and replaced it with some guy who already got his ass handed to him by the old leader.

>>What about Ragnaros?
was never relevant or mentioned before wow
>What about Qiraji?
same shit
>What is Illifag doing in Outland, shouldn't he be invading by now?
Illidan died at Ice crown. Him being a warmonger in outland is retcon
>What is Arthas doing these days I wonder
sleeping dormant in his icicle until he is disturbed
>Where did Deathwing fuck off to?
again was never relevant
>What happened in Pandaland without player intervention?
it didnt exist. Pandarian are a joke race

Dreadlord possession.

She replaced orc cock with dreadlord cock

"allies"
The Lordaeron kingdoms sailed to Kalimdor without Stormwind, dummy

>Okay, so how did Garrosh not get shamed and demoted for using a poisoned weapon?
I believe he used the old flawless orc defense of "I DINDU NUFFIN" and naturally it worked yet again.

Naxx already was a mistake, as we killed of a major Warcraft 3 character, although I admit it was reversable via the Phylactery shit. It however did introduce the TBC style gear tiers where every tier absolutely invalidates any achievements in previous content tiers with even trash loot is on par with top-end AQ loot.

Saurfang himself said he didn't want to be warchief when asked about it

Let's be honest, she is the perfect warchief for fighting the burning legion, regardless of how deserving she is.

She has more reason to hate the legion than any other race save the orcs, she's the single least likely leader of either side to become corrupted, and she's basically the worst still active war criminal on all of Azeroth.

She's definitely not someone you want leading a relatively tame blood-feud against a rival faction, her actions are pretty much 3/4ths of why the Horde and Alliance even fight anymore. But when you're fighting the forces of literal Space Satan? I'm of the opinion that when fighting Space Satan, all bets are off. Commit all the warcrimes you want against demons, anything it takes to win.

Who's gonna demote him? Cairne?
It caused this whole shitstorm with the nigger tauren whose names i can't remember taking over thunderbluff. When garrosh helps them take it back he legitimately apologizes to baine saying that if he knew it was poisoned he wouldn't have gone through with it.
They shake hands and have a bro moment

This was before blizzard decided to go pants on head and scrap all his character development for lolevil

>no consequences
That event basically isolated him from every race in the horde besides his own Kor'kron faction. Sylvanas hated him because he put them under strict watch, Vol'jin basically told him to watch his ass or he's gonna get personally stabbed in the back, Garrosh HATED elves and used them as cannon fodder because he thought they were weak. Baine hated him for obvious reasons. It was probably the first event that started his downward trend into raid boss fodder

It was a mistake to ever have the players kill off major characters. They should be large, rare plot points and at the whim of "raid content".

So is WoD a parallel dimension at this point?

Where are all those fucks we helped now our planet needs saving?

When will our Banshe queen and rightful ruler decide to genocide the Pandaren and turn them into mindless ghouls? It's about time we had some use for that useless fat fuck race

Still, allies nonetheless

you're not supposed to ask those questions

>Implying the whole there must always be a LK shit, along with ““““Uther””””” and ““““Terenas”””” ghost aren't bantzmaster Arthas' fail safe plan in case the light pulls some deus ex machina bullshit

It's just like Ebon Blade's Light's Hope invasion, the one true king always has a backup plan.

yrel's too busy being in grom's harem to help us

Grow up.

To be fair, keeping Sylvanas on lock down and telling her she was a fucking maniac after witnessing her using Valkyr was the best thing Garrosh ever did.

Actually it was supposed to be the start of him actually growing as a leader

not soon enough

go away samwise

Yeah that's the thing, those things would still happen if you went back in time, or were supposed to happen. It would be extremey confusing as hell at best if they were to cease existing in "a different timeline", especially considering things like Ragnaros being summoned just some time after Warcraft 2 and Pandaland being there literally since the Sundering. Same thing with the Old gods, they lurked there since literally dawn of time.

Second best. You forgot about the whole Stonetalon Mountains quest chain.

Didn't actually work then because everyone in the horde didn't like or support him in any way. He burned his bridges with every race in the horde and didn't even attempt to fix them

Grimtotem poisoned his weapon during a blessing ceremony before the fight. It's not really his fault and he was pissed when he found out.

He has you attack Light's Hope again

He's very quickly driving a car off the slippery slope

Why the fuck do the Forsaken still follow Sylvanas so blindly? They don't need her to keep their freedom, and they must be talk in the camps before they raid another village full of defenceless innocents on orders from the queen of "Are we the bad guys?"

>I didn't know
>This is actually accepted as an excuse
He SHOULD have known, what warrior doesn't know the state of his arms before something so major and important as a duel to the death? How the fuck do you miss your weapon being coated in poison?

In the end, it seems it just came down to this;

>lets put this mind-controlling evil helmet on, what could possibly go wrong

Yeah it's only a matter of time before we get Icecrown Citadel 2.0.

>Forsaken
>having a sense of morality

I could definitely see there being a forsaken splinter faction/rebellion if they give Syl the Garrosh treatment after all the negative reaction to her

That's also why I like her

Ruthless and relentless as fuck, also that tasty plague

>Start stormheim questline
>Genn attacks
>Launch plague barrels at the gryphon riders
>melts all the meat from their bones

Brutal

My only complaint is I wish she'd embrace goblins and their technology more, she mentions that with their help they improved the power and speed of their catapults but why

WE COULD HAVE PLAGUE CANNONS

DIRTY PLAGUE ICBMS

That's because blizzard went pants on head and made him evil instead of sticking to their guns and developing him as a character.
I didn't like garrosh being warchief but I don't like how they handled any of it even worse. He comes off as a fucking spaz who changes opinions every 2 minutes

Good. The best leaders are the ones who do not desire the role. Saurfang would bring stability and wisdom.

I dunno, man
I like how you get to raise fallen heroes fr the Ebon Blade.
Even Inquisstor Whitemane. Fucking Whitemane!

Because that worked with Garrosh, right? He never wanted to be warchief.

>The best leaders are the ones who do not desire the role
Just like Garrosh, he literally did nothing wrong

Before the fight you have your chosen shaman bless your weapon
But the dindu nuffin thing is basically how it happened

they couldve still happen, sure, but you see, they were specifically tailored for an MMO game. If it were done in the old gritty warcraft style the story would be completely different. I wouldnt mind seeing the same events where arthas, old gods, deathwing and legion all happen but only if the old staff from Blizz North were writing it.

There's plenty undead that don't follow Sylvannas.
the playabe once just happen to be the faction that does.

I didn't vote for him

>Thrall literally had to cheat to beat Garrosh

Garrosh did literally nothing wrong.

At this point, Blizz needs to hit the reset button on WoW lore and go back to post-WotLK Pre-Cata.

Garrosh was honestly a pretty good leader and a cool character until he was made into a villain in mists.

It's really a shame

I play horde, and I had a big smile on my face when Genn Greymane leaped in and destroyed that lantern. I don't like Sylvanas.

I am willing to put money on the idea that metzen thought it was TOTALLY LEGIT until the forums started calling him a cheater

>Getting tricked by a fucking Sha

He was a retard.

This, they should've planned the content way ahead of time during the making of the expansion. Ragnaros, Illidian and Onyxia were perfectly set up with questchains foreshadowing their lore since Westfall and through numberous zones. Every tier after with the exception of TBC aside of Sunwelland ICC+Ulduar felt like "Oh yeah, and here is also this terrible enemy that came out of nowhere"

Being a retard is better than being a filthy cheater.
>lol let me just summon a giant rocky hand during a Mak'gora xD

I'm glad Metzen is gone.

Does Mok'gora even have concrete rules besides killing? The movie isn't canon.

>Genn is kill by Sylvanas
>Tess becomes new Worgen leader
>She mad

>she will be corrupted by her anger, madness will soon seep in until Anduin saves her and redeems her

One weapon only, no body armor and each side must have a bystander to witness. Thrall broke all 3 rules

>Thinks I must be pro Thrall because I'm anti Garrosh

Only non retard Orc was Saurfang.

You can fight only with one weapon and aren't allowed any armor, and must have one witness.
Thrall broke all of those.

i dont think its possible to have large scale goblin war machine research anymore canonically speaking. thanks to blackfuse everybody is watching goblins much more carefully because they dont want another army of massive war machines popping out of nowhere

>used to be the greatest country in the world
>fucked everything up and then just decided to drink moonweed and turn into bears and fall asleep
kaldorei truly are the master race

I only play WoW for the Pandas and killing people with my WW monk

What's the best class hall and why is the Druids?

We were Thrall's witness to be fair. Garrosh is the one without a witness. He did break the other two rules though.

meanwhile gnomes make sick ass mechas but never get to use them

engineer class when

did you know Malfurion was called Furion before TFT?

>best class hall
>a generic version of moonglade
>no mailboxes
the emerald dreamway is cool but the class hall was kinda mediocre imo

Archerus because it's compact

Warrior.

Rogue absolute worst.

>this what people who weren't awaited actually believe

Sorry bruh, I was carried to the gates by the Val'kyr and lemme tell you, Valhalla is pretty legit.

what did blackfuse even make?
>iron juggernaut
>iron stars
>crawler mines?
>better shredders?
>iron reaver
>theramore nuke?

>Warrior
>Faggot hall led by literally who
No thanks.

Odyn's probably going to get corrupted

Sorry fucker

This.
>acces from anywhere instantly
>mounts
>flight master
>portal to dalaran so acces to all major cities by extend

Rogues because Illuminati and Waifus.

There's also that giant iron horde tank thing in the WoD intro questline along with every other tank and demolisher the IH had. Probably their guns too.

To think, we could have had a cool hall filled with great warriors from lore, but alliance players were so against the idea of horde warriors being there it was canned

>Titans
>Literally who

Hang yourself.

>Horde
>Warriors
Being a brute with an axe doesn't make you a warrior, most orcs are literally ogre tier. Blademasters would be welcome.

wandering isle is very comfy but very, very chinky

warlock, hunter, and shaman are probably my favorite class halls aesthetically

>Caring about muh titanz
Fuck off.

nah, nulore is shit
>Odyn
lmao get a load of yourself

Are you serious? What the fuck. Source?

The horde-alliance dichtomy is essentially what ruined a lot of the potentially interesting storylines in regards to factions and races. If undead wasn't a playable race in wow, we'd probably have seen a war between the undeads and the living races. The blood elves may have reconciled with the alliance races instead of being perpetually stuck with the horde, with whom they have nothing in common. Blizzard, even if they had the talent, can't really write anything interesting because it would inevitably upset the people who play the various factions.

Nah, Blizzard thought it would be jarring to have people like Lothar and Grom hanging out together so they scrapped it. Easiest fucking fix in the world btw - all they had to do was make which warriors you saw faction-specific or just say fuck it and do it anyway.

I forget which one it was but in one of the dev Q&A's they said the warrior class hall was originally going to have dead warriors from every race there but someone complained that alliance warriors sitting and drinking at the same table of horde warriors didn't make sense so they made everything generic vrykul and titan-forged.

Why come the Undead be Priests but can not be Paladins? Don't tell me about that one undead Paladin NPC that no matter I mean why come they can't be PC Paladin if they can be priests?

Don't mind me, just being the only mortal to ever wound Sargeras

>People doing +2 """""""""carries"""""""" for 2 chests
>tfw 3 chesting +7 mythic

>Neo-Blizzard doing anything that requires competence
It would have been an interesting writing challenge to see those characters react to each other, maybe have them put their differences aside in death and embrace their mutual warrior spirit.

Speaking of things that don't make sense. Why does Azeroth share a warrior heaven with Draenor? Why would Grom even be in Azeroth's heaven? And if there is one big melting pot shared heaven why the fuck are there only warriors from Azeroth and Draenor?

Does anyone know if logging out to reset the spawning for the prot warrior hidden skin was hotfixed? I tried it a bit last night and didn't get the appearance after like 40 logouts.

>Lelorc retcon Mary Sue
Such a famous fucking orc and then the nightelves are all "*gasp* what are these demonic creatures!" when they see orcs in WC3.

Neither did Garrosh, but Thrall said "Fuck you, you're warchief. I'm gonna go do some jesus bullshit and knock some bitch up while you fix all my problems for me."
Seriously, fuck Thrall

I have trouble stomaching the idea that Mograine and his men would follow Bolvar at ALL since it's become clear that he's fucking nuts again.

Warlock's class hall is great, but makes the problems with Warlock's theme vs. Warlock's game mechanics even more apparent.

Your not only the leader of the Black Harvest, but have gained absolute control of an entire regiment, an entire world of the Burning legion. Nearly every kind of demon in the entirety of Warcraft can be seen there, and they all serve you.

Demolocks summon imps. Imps and the occasional felhound.

this could have been a cute chinese girl but instead the artist drew an animal

Supposedly the ship in Deadmines was designed to blow the shit out of Stormwind and only got stopped by Van Cleef's daughter not going crazy and launching it.

it really did not live up to how promising the basic concept was

>forced to become a viking meme and drink mead with odin "lava beard" mcgee in a dumb piss filter hall filled with dumb viking shit
fuck the warrior hall, I wish we got an actual warrior hall and not Marvel's Thor™

>Speaking of things that don't make sense. Why does Azeroth share a warrior heaven with Draenor? Why would Grom even be in Azeroth's heaven? And if there is one big melting pot shared heaven why the fuck are there only warriors from Azeroth and Draenor?

I imagine it's only warriors who died on Azeroth and were chosen by Odyn (and then taken by the val'kyr before Helya got to them). Odyn only has dominion over Azeroth so people who didn't die there couldn't be chosen by him.

He also says this wound will claim his soul. Not his life his soul

At least you didn't get a sewer.

No he's not. He's never been presented as the strongest leader in the Horde. Not even once. Lorthemar is tough, but he's ultimately just some guy people turned into a meme because he's so forgotten that Blizzard didn't get him involved in the bullshit retarded storylines.

>>Nah, Blizzard thought it would be jarring to have people like Lothar and Grom hanging out together so they scrapped it.

that's what valhalla is all about jfc

Considering the history of Azeroth why isn't it absolutely flooded by Trolls and Elves then?

You can dislike it all you want, but broxigar is arguably the best warrior in the warcraft universe

Went back in time to kill some fuckin demons

Killed countless demons

JUMPED INTO THE PORTAL AND TOOK THE FIGHT TO SARGERAS HIMSELF

>retcon

But Broxigar is literally in Illidan's Black Rook Hold flashback. He's not retconned at all. A Mary Sue? Yes.

It's the Maelstrom you idiot.

they're just not cool enough

what's dumb is one of if not the biggest part of IRL Valhalla is the FIGHTING, also I wouldn't mind odyn if they didn't try to make him the coolest dude around. His track record is
>fight ragnaros/old gods
>think dragons are stupid
>raise a would be WOTLK dungeon into the sky
>get trapped in it, forever

A shaman is anoint the weapon in oils before the battle. Garrosh allowed Magatha to be his shaman for this.

Odyn's kind of a racist prick IIRC.

i'd imagine it's because they're casting the light and it's only burning their hands

paladins basically channel the light through their whole body to make themselves the weapon rather than using the light as a ranged weapon

that being said, non-shadow undead priests are retarded and should never have been a thing, they should give all of the holy spells on undead priests a shadow aesthetic and name but have the same effect

Blizzard is retarded - what else is new?

it's not racism if it's an elf

>Xe'ra
>a talking Naaru who sounds like the Major is telling me Illidan is the CHOSEN ONE

I really don't like this, up to this point Naaru only communicated in wind chime noises, I liked that. it made them feel otherworldly and alien

also how hard they backtrack on Illidan's character straight to DID NOTHING WRONG when he's done some shady shit in his time is annoying too

Agreed.

>implying it's really a Naaru and not Legion or Old God bait

She's crazy and her writing is shit

But holy fuck her belly and hips are godly

he is a retcon, they added him in for no fucking reason retroactively and pretended he was always a thing

that's literally a retcon

The Naaru talking makes absolutely no sense and it should have never happened.

We should have just had Khadgar translate the wind chime ding a lings with his shitty wizard magic.

Xe'ra's writing is so bad it has to be a ruse

>implying there's a difference

at least the dalaran sewers are pretty cool and have a fun entrance

Just wait until you get to the final quest (for now, anyway) where Xe'ra calls you a fuckboy for killing Illidan in BT even though the naaru were the ones who told you to do it in the first place

It's a pretty fun quest though, you get to wipe a raid as Illidan and Johnny Awesome is AFK in the corner

>putress allied with varimathras and betrayed her
>gilneas was under garrosh's orders
ressurecting people with the valkyr and using plague weapons and shit are the only shady shit she's done. Let's talk about greymane being an utter retard and attacking the horde in the middle of a fucking burning legion invasion

>Jaina ends up denounced as a dangerous extremist
>killed off in a 5-man dungeon or even a scenario
>Sylvanas has an entire raid tier and surrounding patch content devoted to her redemption
>raid ends with Alleria sacrificing her own body so Sylvanas can possess it and live and die as a living elf
>everything forgiven

Illidan is literally responsible for all the terrible shit that happened to Azeroth since the sundering, all out of complete obsession with the chick that chose his brother and a voracious greed for more power. He's one of the most self-absorbed narcissistic and evil assholes in the entire lore and Blizzard now wants to make him a dindu.

I could be wrong here but I'm pretty sure they've talked before. The wind chimes are just kind of their version of stuff they say when you click on them

I also agree with you that they're trying a bit too hard to be like "oh no seriously Illidan was a hero, not some crazy asshole"

Why would some meme tier grunt become warchief?

>the child of light and darkness

>the boy-king serves at the master's table. Three lies will he offer you
Nah

>Broken Islands
>is actually one big continent with like only two tiny island on the sides
this really triggers me. Was it too much for fucking casuals to handle water

>resurrecting people
>shady

i'm notifying the silver hand right now

>plague weapons
>shady

all's fair in love and war

Sounds awful and dumb enough to be legit.

Vrykul are the seed race and rightful heir of Azeroth placed by the Titans. Odyn is a Titan watcher. Everyone else were to be servants (gnome/dwarf/mogu) or evolved from goop (trolls, trolls that became elves, tauren)

>in hindsight
Yeah sure.
Only in hindsight was that spacetrek retarded.

What if voljin made her warchief SPECIFICALLY to show her worst side to horde and rest of the world, to make her the priority target and to make her make mistakes and put her in danger?

What if voljin is crashing this horde with no survivors?

Honor, respect.
Doesn't matter if they still need her.
They got their freedom because of her.

>tfw just wanted islands
>tfw didn't care if it was only aesthetic and sea was basically a border between them that you flew over on FPs/used boats to cross

You know I really wish it didn't bother me, but this is actually one of my minor annoyances.

They could have easily made Azsuna/Valsharah their own islands, connected to the others by bridges. I would have accepted Highmountain and Stormheim being their own large island, that would also feel appropriate.

I feel like they missed an opportunity to have some cool underwater stuff happen in between the islands too

Mal means bad in latin.
After RoC Furion got corrupted into Malfurion.

or is literally degenerate (humans)

>All horde leaders killed
>Maybe I can be your warchief tonight?

Hakkar did nothing wrong.

My nigga I've been playing horde since I started in 2008. I would lick her asshole clean after a nasty shit. I'm 100% on board with the shit she does despite being a faggot paladin

Knaak a shit.

The pitlords smile is hilarious though.

metzennnnnnnn

I'm ok with him being redeemed, his soft spot for Tyrande and hatred for the legion made great potential for him to come around

They're just going about it completely the wrong way, some naaru bitch shaming the player for killing his ass because he was a dick don't even give me that shit

>titan mutants
>any rightful claim to Azeroth
fuck off vermin and take the green niggers with you. Azeroth belongs to trolls and tauren

He doesn't help them take back Thunder Bluff he just refuses aid to Magatha

I think it's implied that a lot of the animal races like Tauren, Quillboar and Harpies were all created by various Ancients. Makes me wonder if there was a panda ancient back in the day

Mate, source?

Those Illidan flashbacks really make me realize how much of a fucking edgelord faggot he was from the very beginning. They're supposed to establish his character and make you understand him but it just makes me wanna punch him in the jaw.

>Cenarius tells him he needs to learn some humility by training with his brother
>"WAAAAAH NO FUCK YOU I WANNA TRAIN WITH YOU"

>instead of coordinating his attacks with his moon guard better he literally drains them to death by the dozen to kill demons
>ravencrest gets rightly pissed and calls him out on it
>"WAAAAAH FUCK YOU I ("I" meanining "my subordinates who had no choice in the matter") SACRIFICED EEEEEEEEEEEVERYTHING TO SAVE US"

>fucks off to outland
>enslaves akama and his people
>I'll spare you the allcaps - he throws yet another tantrum when called out on this
>gets his shit kicked in

>what's worse, he did it all for Tyrande's pussy (I can't even blame him really), when she didn't even fucking notice him amd was slobbering over malfurion's big barbed bear cock from the beginning

Someone seriously just needs to smack Illidan upside his fucking head and soon. I'm sick of this faggot and this whole "chosen of the light" shit better be a fucking ruse.

Azsuna is supposed to be it's own island, they keep calling it an island all over the place.

I think the "broken isles" are just one landmass for gameplay only.

Careful there user.
A friend of mine posted dumb lore ideas like that once and he got hired by blizzard.

And goblin.

He doesn't help Baine is forced to go to Jaina for aid

sylvanas windrunner, warcraft 3 and world of warcraft

No.

Genn "Gennocide" Greymane is.

Voljin owed a pretty big debt to Bwonsamdi, the loa of death. One that Voljin hadn't repaid in full. It's more likely that the death loa pushed Voljin to make the zombie warchief for his own reasons.

They were gonna use Broxigar's axe for Arms Warriors but they thought people would be weirded out using a nature themed weapon as a warrior.

What the fuck is this shit? Did they really think people were gonna flip out because their axe was wooden? Just make it look less nature-y with the initial skin or something

I figured Pandaren are just evolved Furbolgs, I think that notion may have been explicitly rendered untrue somewhere in canon though

Gilneas was not under Garrosh's orders. He wanted the city captured, not plague bombed, and in fact you'd know that if you played the fucking questline.

Also while it is clearly supposed to be "putress allied with varmathras" the very idea of her not knowing what was going on essentially right under her feet makes her into a super retarded character, and honestly tarnishes whatever "badass" shit they try to choke out for her. She's such a bad leader a retard with literally 0 subtly and an obviously traitorous Dreadlord got the drop on her.

Where are the kingdoms that are burning?

>ysera, emerald god dragon of dreaman
>killed by a tiny goat man
Also I'm not too keen with WoW lore, who's ursoc?
His lines in his fight were pretty cool

>Those Illidan flashbacks really make me realize how much of a fucking edgelord faggot he was from the very beginning.

But that was what Illidan was and that's what Blizzard is trying to show.
He was a curled lil faggot anti-hero, so I don't get why people on Cred Forums and other shitholes are saying that Blizzards is making Illidan into a dindu because it's exactly the opposite desu

Also if you drop your weapon it can't be picked up by either party

Stromgarde, Kul Tiras.
Don't worry about it.
Blizz isn't.

Odin looks like real garbage in Legion. At least Wrath had the excuse of being ten years old.
Not a single person would have cared if they redesigned him to not look like shit

All's fair in love and war son

Gen got his ass beat by Nathanial and his Retarded First Squadron Bat Corps, though. The only thing he'll be genociding is his dignity.

Ursoc is an Ancient, a large animal that's basically kind of like a demigod. He lived during the War of the Ancients, when his mortal body was killed by demons. Now he lives in the Emerald Dream, and I think we kill him for good because he gets all corrupted and shit

>t. A war criminal on death row.

There's that Scarlet monk guy.

>who's ursoc?
He's a wild god bear.
Been mentioned for a long time.

I think he created Furbolgs(I don't remember exactly how the wild gods worked with those species, agrammar-pigmen, aviana-harpies).

I think the druids of the claw hold Ursoc in high esteem.

The dragon aspects were greatly weakened after Cata.

Ursoc is a nature demigod like Cenarius

>ruined the forsaken's shot at a "future"

I'm pretty sure Genn won in Stormheim.

She's an undead high elf.
Nearly half of all rolled Horde characters are elves or undead.

The leader of the Horde has to either be an orc or her.

Except it's not. And not even Garrosh (before he was ruined in MoP, possibly replaced by an even more retarded doppleganger) wanted anything to do with that filthy bomb shit.

Sylvanas is a terrible character. Equal to the shitty design that is Garrosh. You know why she's popular? She's a hot girl. Literally that's it. If Sylvanas was Steve Vanis, some angsty guy, the forums would call for his head and he'd be Garrosh 2.0

>instead of coordinating his attacks with his moon guard better he literally drains them to death by the dozen to kill demons
The others I can agree with (even though the Broken enslavement had a purpose) but this situation was impossible. Shit, you had Jarod, Rhonin and Broxigar there and they were still getting their shit kicked in.

Nope. Not really. Nobody won Stormheim. It was a nice little slideshow on how both Syl and Gen are fucking retards who need to die or lose their positions.

Broz didn't even do anything - he killed one pitlord and then fucked off to standing in one spot the rest of the scenario. I didn't even see Rhonin when I did it either.

>blizz were originally going to limit the water striders/water walking mounts to only work in their own xpac, and remove warlock's water walking glyph, while covering legion in water
>people bitch on the forums and blizz give use back the mounts
It's one of the few times bitching on the forums has actually been for the best (although they still fucked locks by not giving them back the glyph)

I don't get where you genn fans get the finality from, you act as if it's done, its all over.

When you talk to Sylvannas after the cut scene she's basically like "Oh I didn't think genn was semi competent, I guess will just have to try again"

undead TFT kael'thas for warchief

>kael'thas
Redemption arc fucking when? If Illidan gets one he should too.

I bet you like flying mounts to, faggot

There's not a whole lot left to redeem. We kinda cut his fucking head off. I mean Nozdormu could pull some time travel shenanigans but do we really want more of that?

if it gets me back my nigga kael

Cutting his head off was merely a setback.

Why is it okay to take it away from locks but allow DK's to keep Path of Frost?

Hero Class privilege?

>Broz didn't even do anything - he killed one pitlord and then fucked off to standing in one spot the rest of the scenario. I didn't even see Rhonin when I did it either.

What? Brox joins you the whole way after you save him. Some guy even managed to cheese the last boss without the final skill by using Brox and Jarod's auto attacks. Rhonin was there somewhere. I can remember seeing his nameplate with /tar but I couldn't be assed to go find it

They shouldn't have nerfed the Glider since they allowed water walking

>DH's have to be unique, but DK's & Lock's? fuck em

>>DH's have to be unique, but DK's & Lock's? fuck em
>tfw they only fixed heroic leap because DHs have it too and they can't have the new class' spells be buggy messes of shit

retcon =/= shoehorn dumbass

no fuck off I wouldnt be able to live without the glider. Glider and being a repair bot bitch are literally the only redeeming qualities of engineering. I guess making mounts is okay too

There was Thal'Dranath which was an island, but that was cut, so yeah the final version of broken isles should be called barely broken island

They should have saved the shipyard until Legion & used it to travel around the islands

And instead of that we get 3 literal asspulls of weapons. Who the fuck did this

That image is gay as fuck, and you should feel faggoty for saving it

What's the mage class hall like?

>mfw human Arms warrior
>mfw going into Troll instances and screaming that the king is back and he's come looking for skulls and other obscenities
>not a single filthy tuskfuck spares

I wonder how mad troll warriors are knowing they're wielding the blade that fucked their entire race.

Hasn't Legion basically established that Arthas/Ner'zhul are STILL fucking around in the Helm of Domination and BolvarLK is doing some heinous shit already?

>what's worse, he did it all for Tyrande's pussy (I can't even blame him really), when she didn't even fucking notice him amd was slobbering over malfurion's big barbed bear cock from the beginning

This has always confused me. What the fuck did Tyrande see in Malfurion? He had no talent, he was dumb as a sack of bricks, he was a shitty leader and only in charge because fucking Cenarius said so, he doesn't even like her that much and basically smacks her whenever she speaks up.

>The death of Runas the Shamed

He...Had a hard life.

At least his life ended on a high note.

Can... can you hear me, my friend? I cannot see you anymore.

>he doesn't even like her that much and basically smacks her whenever she speaks up.

That's why. Some bitches love that.
Illidan got friendzoned because he was too thirsty.

How do you rederm someone who did no wrong?

>Walked Off to who knows where
>Doing research in Suramar where they're trying to give withered some sanity back
>Positive Fan reaction of his character

There's a chance, right?

>had no talent
Then he didn't, but talent isn't a cure for no personality, which Illidan had none of. Malfurion might have been a bit of a nerd as a kid but Illidan was a hot topic edgelord. Tyrande chose wisely given the circumstances. He's also grown into the most powerful druid in existence and is really doesn't need to lead since Tyrande does that for him due to NE society being matriarchal.

He's never actually hit her either - he told her to stop talking once and everyone threw a fit about it.

>feeling sorry for elf crackheads

She's into bestiality.

I can buy that. Tyrande's pretty fucking stupid and cruel herself.

>Tfw she finds Elohir impaled on roots of the nightmare, screaming in agony as his very soul is warped into a cruel imitation of itself and he is slowly killed to the sounds of the dying forest he sought to protect
>The FIRST THING she says to him is "Have you seen my husband?"

>there is no option to end his suffering

You had one job, blizzard.

I think...Perhaps it is time to say goodbye, then.

>Sylvanas is a terrible character. Equal to the shitty design that is Garrosh. You know why she's popular? She's a hot girl. Literally that's it.
this

I'd have done anything to just kill him there and end his torment. He was blind - he'd never have to know it was me.

God dammit Blizzard, why did you have to make me watch him suffer?

Tyrande is a shining example of why Night Elves need to be wiped off the face of the planet. Literally sociopathic.

Well Azshara didn't outlive 99% of the loot pinatas for no reason. Slut must be doing something right.

nope
in other hand pic related is my king

Vashj never died!!

I want to lesbianly marry that king (female) and bear her children.

>Maggoty elf pussy
>Voice of a 50 year old who smoked 5 packs a day all her life
>Hot

>use the same VA as Valerian Mengsk
>use the same character design too

wtf Blizz?

>Infinite dragonflight story was resolved lazily in a fucking 5-man after all that buildup

I'll never recover.

It's not even a smoker's voice, she's just one of those retards that has to drawl out everything she says to make a single sentence into a five minute monologue.

>.............................Looks like..................
>............................I under.........EStimate......d.........
>..............you..................................
>.............................................old..................
>...................................................................
>............................................................wolf

>Playing my BM Hunter
>Use Flight Master's Whistle in Suramar City
>Takes me to a Great Eagle overlooking the City
>Fuck
>Take a feather and jump off the highest point
>Land near that one Vrykul NPC that gives a quest
>Get attacked by some stealthed Mana Saber
>Tame it because it's tagged as rare

I thought rare tames were supposed to be hard to find

while we're at it I don't know why he was thirsty for that pussy anyeway. In looks she's no different than any other nelf (she has a pretty dress wooooo) and her personality is so shallow I couldn't even get my ankles wet.
Besides whenever anybody does anything because of a woman is auto-fail in my book.
Especially with Illidan. he's the most beta fucking retard on the planet. beta, stupid and flat out a terrible person.
But yh he's trying to save Azeroth so he's ok. Like what was everybody else doing this whole time? Picking daisies?
I'd like his character much more if they didn't try to redeem him or if he wasn't drooling over mary-sue. Just fucking shit concept.

naw, in warlords they slapped the rare icon on shit even tho it respawned like a normal mob. I think the only current ACTUAL rare tame is a ghost moose.

I want to impregnate this gnome

das mordred

>Unaffiliated terrorists
>War is way, Garrosh's orders anyway
>Saving a race, and allowing her enemies a second chance
Wew, such an evil bitch.

>about to finish my perfect Draenei paladin transmog
>Hammer of the Naaru doesn't drop across my 3 plate wearing characters

i knew i shouldnt have deleted my old warrior that had it long before legion

>while we're at it I don't know why he was thirsty for that pussy anyeway

Because she's bigger than a normal night elf bitch, wears heels and has bigger tits.

>raising people from the dead to a life of suffering and dulled senses until you inevitably lose your mind
>saving people

post your crazy theories.

>Vol Jin will come back like Gara'jal in ToT
>he gets you to gather the last of the Troll armies to help fight the legion
>Loa empowered trolls every where
>Gurabashi troll are setting up all around the out side of the battle
>after the battle has raged and blood soaks the ground
>Hakkar himself takes to the battle field
>AIDs is back
>it is the new Wrathgate moment and leads to a new side raid
>single boss raid Hakkar

>Scourge
>A race

>2H Mace
>Plate classes only

>Mfw wiping a raid as Illidan
You DID wipe the raid, didn't you?

I always loved Illidan because he's hot, I'm so glad he's getting some love from porn artists.

Isn't there an option to reclaim deleted characters?

She sometimes is and sometimes isn't. That's just retarded game design. As for tits, don't care rly.

oh no shit

i'm a fucking downie, thank you user

yeah, but i think you need a character slot for that

I'd like it more if mary-sue wasn't in 90% of it.
But yh, everybody wants the demon D now

>As for tits, don't care rly

Illidan does.

If only. All he cares about is LUV :3

>Run EoE10 every fucking week on all 3 of my characters who can wield polearms
>Black Ice never

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

they are as much of a race as worgens are

on another note
>druids can cure worgenism with scythe of elune
>the entirety of Gilneas doesnt line up to suck my cock for a cure

...

He's Garrosh's king.

they like the knot now and can't go back

Are you running heroic or normal?
It drops on normal.
I got 3 from like 5 times I've done it.

>willingly giving up having a fat dog cock
smfh

If you do a class trial you get to keep that gear for transmog. The paladin trial gear gives you that Hammer of the Naaru. Easiest way to do it.

Normal, I just have shitty luck. I got the fucking mounts multiple times but no based magic spear.

fuck yes
thanks for the protip user

Elune guides their path.

>tfw got Ashkandi on my rogue

I understand your pain.

I feel faggoty every day of my life bb

No worries.

How can you consider her hot anymore when she's covered up for legion and all?

absolutely based, ty user

No because they kept rezzing somehow even though I kept killing their healers.

no, i don't think he was "blind".
it's more like he was getting numb before losing himself completely. his consciousness was slipping away bit by bit at that one moment.

>Giving up a form that has many advantages

For what purpose? They can go human form if they want when not fighting, but why would you not use it when fighting when you can use more strength and speed. They don't become mindless beasts either thanks to a ritual, what advantage would you have getting rid of it? Why aren't MORE humans lining up for their furry shots to make better soldiers? Surely being furbait is a small price to pay for fighting the legion.

this.
Being a worgen is objectively better in every way possible to being an ordinary human.

>Throwing away your humanity

Smells like heresy.

>hey Odyn lets make Ymiron fight for us
>nah fuck that guy
>but you just know he'd hate every second of it
>ice cold, make it happen
Odyn is a cool guy

A mass of undead having control split between any half-wit with even a minute understanding of necromancy is a very bad thing because it would go out of control very fast compared to just being held up in Northrend.

>Attracted to Tess
>Repulsed by her furfag form

IT'S NOT FAIR
CURE HER

>attracted to illidan
>is the most beta cuck in history
Just fuck it. I'm done with husbandos

Fuck Anduin.

Varian was based, he had every reason to hate the Horde, but he was smart enough to know when he needed them as allies. He could be hard but also kind when the situation called for it.

His people rallied behind him, and every other alliance race happily followed him.

Anduin is too much of a good guy, he's gonna get the alliance fucked over with his passiveness.

I really hope those Old God whispers about the boy king lying are true, it'll add some edge to his character at least. Hopefully it's not just Wrathion

>All's fair in love and war son

That's not true, hence why War Crimes exist. She committed war crimes on Gilneas, after the Siege of Orgrimmar the alliance should have demanded her execution as part of the peace treaty

Yeah they'll auto rez but you can get them all down until one randomly pops up again. but you can have a noticeable period of time where everyone is dead

No, see, Cairne heard rumors that Garrosh ordered druids to be massacred and skinned so he went to challenge him to a duel to the death, based on rumors, without verifying them first.

I don't. I'm saying that is why she ever garnered any attention that wasn't the hatred Garrosh got. That and she's a tough female lead, I guess.

It just fucking annoys me to listen to.

...

i had the boomkin bug out and he wouldnt die

exactly.

No he wasn't smart enough to know until the very end of MoP. And it had to be fucking drilled into his thick skull to do it.

>d-did you ever come visit me Tyrande
>pl-pls respond

this, we need kael

Quality Blizzard tier writing.

Sylvanas can only raise humans or vyrkul with her val'kyr because they don't have the Lich King's empowerment to raise anything else.

>Voljin gets warchief
>great, let's see how the horde goes under his rule
>he fucking dies by a lesser demon
>rottenfanny gets warchief

What was the fucking point?

Oh yeah. There's also the fact that he wouldn't have believed him anyway and there WERE dead skinned druids

Why doesn't Sylvanas invest in demonization research like the Illidari if she wants immortality so much?

She's my Warchief

I love Sylvanas

I love more the fact that Ally players get so fucking triggered by her

Nobody liked Vol'jin. I don't know if that was the soul reason, but it was pretty obvious that it was part of it. Hell I don't like Vol'jin, the guy is fucking boring as shit.

Did Vol'jin even do anything in WoD?

>>Doesn't even want to rule
>he didn't want to be warchief

>Blizz's excuse to appoint Hitlers and mad self-serving undead abominations as leaders

No one sensible wants the role, time to check in at the insane asylum

>Take this... to my wife's son.

Hmm, why did he say this? Why not just "my son"?

>Anduin is too much of a good guy, he's gonna get the alliance fucked over with his passiveness.

Implying he won't be the second "Green Jesus".

>the guy is fucking boring as shit

this is because the writers didn't do anything with him. they were too focused on fucking fagboy garrosh and rentboy thrall.

the horde will be fucking decimated under rottencunt's rule because of her fear of finally being put out of her misery.

WTF happened the war genius that is Varian? Blizzard built him up and then fucked him up just like Vol'jin?

No wonder I quit this game.

Rarely do I see Ally players triggered by her. I almost purely see Horde players triggered by her. Including me, actually.

Not really, no. He shows up to talk to you like... twice? And I think he did some shit at the end. Otherwise he did nothing and was nothing.

There was nothing to do with him. The Darkspear are the least interesting trolls. His personality meant that they would never truly make him into an interesting character. He'd just be "dat warchief, mon." and that's tedius. Even Garrosh was better, at least it was amusing to see where he'd bipolar his way into next.

...

Obviously he was cucked and she had a child with someone else

>he didn't want to be warchief

this is why he's the best choice. with ratcunt as warchief, the horde is only going to be yet another excuse for another warcraft nazi regime.

Why did she offer to raise belves for Lor'themar at SoO then?

First of all Varian is a shitty character and he hasn't been a war genius since he was placed in the game. Guy is a moron, dialog be damned. Second of all the given excuse is apparently that they greatly underestimated the Burning Legion.

These idiots thought "Gul'dan is still reeling from his utter curb stomping in that other world, so we'll just rush over there, kill his vanguard and be done with it." but lo and behold Plot Convenience turned Gul'dan into a mass demon summoning grandpa and everything went to shit.

>doing world quest
>some demon hunter is there too
>suddenly
>THE ILLIDARI CANNOT BE STOPPED

Always makes me smile.

Calling it now, both factions will have their leaders killed and you will take their place in garrisons 3.0

That was cool, until they decided to raid the place the Lich King couldn't even get into. Literally retarded.

>The Darkspear are the least interesting trolls.

I really do only see Alliance players triggered by her.
M-muh 20th century warcrimes must be stopped!!! Garrosh even disliked her!!!!

No that's not why he's the best choice. First of all (I've said this twice in the same thread) he's old, suffering from PTSD and is essentially a second Thrall but with a warrior class instead of shaman. Second of all reluctant leaders are not actually the best leaders.

In fact they're almost always the worst. Hell nearly every reluctant leader in WARCRAFT is fucking awful.

Her voice in WC3/TFT was great though.

>Champion, YOU are the leader of the {faction}

> Cheat

Hes a fucking shaman, that's not cheating.

Yes, they are. Explain to me how they're not the least interesting?

Again it's always the Horde players that quote that, at least in threads I'm around.

At least they got a cinematic, Tirion literally got murdered just because

>has experience
>isn't a rotting cunt
>will probably lead the horde to greatness
>???
>profit

Wasn't Thrall a reluctant leader?

> With a magical ax.

Anyone could hurt him if they had a fucking magical weapon too.

Not only that but the actors death cries actually made me kind of unnerved. I don't care that he came back in the Paladin questline, that was shit. Legion has a lot of stuff that I like, and I don't think it's the worst expansion, but the characters and the stories are god fucking awful.

I'm still upset that the PC isn't referred to as Marshal/Warlord in WoD

>being the canonically weakest tribe
>make up for it in intelligence
>not even that smart
they're just godless jungle trolls

Tirion got murdered so we could have millions of ashbringers.

>Hell nearly every reluctant leader in WARCRAFT is fucking awful.
That's every leader in Warcraft since they're not actually allowed by the plot to ever act in a leader role

Outside Thrall and Sylvanas, or whoever is the current writer favorite

The most common complaint I've heard about Sylvanas was "not muh warchief" proceeded by arguments about "muh race leader should have been warchief"

Unless all those people are just alliance players pretending to be horde or something

I like the zone, but i hate the story in highmountain and the voices are awful.

And that was the only reason.
It's like they announced that retadins get ashbringer and completely forgot tirion still had it

Not really. He was humble but he seemed fine with the idea of leading the orcs. Saurfang would literally lead the Horde just as Thrall did, not to greatness. Just to static-ness.

Which is fine, but I thought the whole reason they changed Warchiefs was because people were fucking sick of Thrall.

>WTF happened the war genius that is Varian?
>Expecting writers to be able to come up with believable geniuses when they themselves aren't even remotely capable of thinking like geniuses

Just because someone writes a character and makes them out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread doesn't mean they can portray it convincingly. You're on fucking Cred Forums you should understand this by heart.

I mean everyone knows Horde and Alliance should've both been disbanded a long time ago.
Orcish Warchief is the only one that makes sense.

>All those people sitting there in the middle of the Class Hall with their Corrupted Ashbringers clearly hoping people stop and look at them

She also has an enormous ass as of HotS. Only reason we don't see it in WoW is because that would require an entirely new model

Nigga they still worship the Loa what are you talking about.

Because you're neither the Marshal nor the Warlord. That was a single campaign thing, and you don't have that position anymore.

I am a non-American Republican

It's just the impression I get from roleplaying chats like Darknest. Literally no complaints about Sylvanas Horde side. Though I presume most current-gen WoW players are over the retard lore Blizzard has introduced since the dawn of time.

>Yeah dude, anyone can hurt sargeras, you just have to have an axe made by a demigod and slice your way through thousands of demons and jump into a portal to essentially the hell dimension, then you just gotta make your way through another hundred demons and then attack a god

Lol anyone could do it

Why is she so perfect?

Considering the other keepers were corrupted and then saved that hardly means anything.

>But my brother the Dragonborn is already the leader of the {faction}

>Paladins
>having a corrupted ashbringer

what the fuck, blizzard

>the Loa
yeah just one, one they didn't make contact with for years

even better is those paladins mogging to look like DKs

the amount of people I've seen using that hidden appearance with DK T10 is fucking astounding

Why the fuck is Sylvannas the best choice? She's just an egotistical cunt who's hellbent on making sure her rottencock excuse for people survive. like nigga they're supposed to be dead just look away from life and end yourself.

I honestly think the writers were having fun with a lot of this expansion

'cuz Blizzard needs to kill of another warcheif and Sylvanas is the next best choice

>They never removed this from the game
youtube.com/watch?v=hMsCdc3OBG8

>many of the same
>one

they worship many, stop talking shit.

Sylvanas is NOT my warchief

I really hate how YOU are the leader, it's my biggest problem with the story, i want to go back when you were the cog in the machine

As a Death Knight, i wanted to obey the Lich King & Mograine, but no, im the big bad ass because i found a sword in a basement

you can follow him to a cave where he literally lies down in a puddle and dies
so no, he's not coming back

guys when is Chronicle #2 coming out?
i need muh orcs and human lore without playing wc1 & 2
and no titan construct drama panda bullshit like the first one was infested with

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DON'T OFFEND MAI HUSBANDO

I roleplay it out so that the Forsaken and Belves split off into their own alliance, and so did the Night Elves and Draenei.

It makes sense sort of since your character is supposed to have been a part of the numerous campaigns in outland, northrend and the cataclysm etc. But yeah, it's weird.

>just as Thrall did, not to greatness. Just to static-ness.
Saurfang is actually a stronger leader than Thrall. He led the faction Garrosh turned into the core of the Iron Horde to begin with.

Guy currently sits in charge of Orgrimmar, but Blizz has to cuck him by not making him want the mantle to make other choices for warchief make more sense.
Yet apparently he has absolutely no problem with taking up any leadership role duty demands.

>you just have to have an axe made by a demigod
But user, that's every other weapon at this point

Even the forks are rare quality

You can't really be a cog if you keep getting into world disasters and picking up the slack where all the would be heroes fail user. You'd actually have to go back to vanilla style where you deal with baddies that aren't threatening to crack the planet open like an egg every week and settle with beating up kobolds and shit and solving long ass chains starting with a bunch of bandits culminating to a mere dragon as your end game.

Do you really think even 30% of WoW players would accept that?

I heard Metzen was kinda crazy during his last years at blizzard.

Like one guy mentioned that it was bullshit that thrall cheated by using magic during the fight with garrosh and then Metzen overheard him, so he shouted "I CHALLENGE YOU TO MAK'GORA" and charged at the guy. Before he knew what was going metzen was grappling him and biting him.

Not like Pallies already had it shitty, then they had to do that.

so who wants to boost my undead warlock

You don't just lose a title like that. But you are a leader of an entire class now, which is essentially better.

You literally beat back an old god in Vanilla. Did you see every other NPC blowing you in TBC? It's especially jarring when you level a new character that accomplishes jack shit in-game, mostly just fucking around the different regions of the world for a few days. Then everyone says "Yes! YOU are the greatest [class] on Azeroth! Your deeds are legendary! I could not think of someone better to trust for this task than you!"

>pic

I know, I just want some real god damn answers.

The Nax one or the new one?

I remember when it was this huge deal that C'thun was only at 5% of his true power or something.
Now no one cares.
Ragnaros himself is pretty huge deal too though.

Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if at the end of the expact we jump through the portal and fight sargy

Everything in this post is correct.

>You literally beat back an old god in Vanilla.
But user, that's every other villain at this point

You can barely swipe the floor without defeating an old god or two

>Yet apparently he has absolutely no problem with taking up any leadership role duty demands.
I can understand that. He's a soldier - he'll lead if he HAS to, but he'd rather just follow orders and crack skulls.

There have got to be pictures of this.

Blizzard runs a pretty tight ship around there.
Now that Metzen isn't with them anymore chances of those kind of photos(if some were taken and saved) increase though.

I preferred it when the Old Gods were a mystery, presumed to be something of a power equal or once greater than the Titans, hence the name "old gods".
Now they're little memers, a tiny pawn of the next set of upcoming raid bosses, the 'Void Lords'!

>>I know, I just want some real god damn answers.

You're looking for something that can't possibly exist. At least not with the current writers. Warcraft and well, anything Blizzard has long since degraded into convoluted memefests that basically craft their story based on getting immediate attention from their players.

>he'll lead if he HAS to
With Sylvanas spending her Warchief time on personal matters during a fucking legion invasion, this makes me hope he goes over there and just tells her to fuck straight off while he leads the actual army

Hell just give us -anyone- who actually focuses on leading the war effort

>Now that Metzen isn't with them anymore

What happened?

>Anduin is too much of a good guy, he's gonna get the alliance fucked over with his passiveness.
He's the one that sicced Genn on Sylvanas

what war effort LOL

nice retcon Metzen

>greymane is defacto leader of alliance while the king is learning the ropes
>his first move is to attack the horde, their new allies, while they're all on the way to fight the biggest existential threat azeroth has ever faced
She may be doing nothing, but at least she's not actively weakening the war effort for personal vendettas

>He's the one that sicced Genn on Sylvanas
>implying genn wouldn't have attacked sylvannas otherwise

He's retiring

>No longer the edgelord class
>"THE LIVING WILL SCREAM FOR OUR CONDEMNATION, BUT THE AIR IN THEIR LUNGS WILL BE BOUGHT WITH THE PRICE OF OUR SOULS."

Okay.

The executives got him to retire after he presented the new cast that was supposed to replace everyone at the Landing. Everyone, every single one, was supposed to die and be replaced by the characters popular in the Warcraft comics

New thread when? I get home to this thread dead

source?

Source?

>Taurens can be Monks
>Goblins can't
>Yet both can be Shamans communing with literal elementals
>MoP is discovered a decent time after the events of Cataclysm so everybody would be able to learn from the new Monks

I'm so confused.

Gnomes can be fucking Monks too.

new fred

I love these overused posts. No, you're not some badass because you found a sword in a basement. You are some badass because you've been part of groups that have killed countless gods, have basically got a kill count in the thousands and THEN you got a sword in a basement.

Nobody wants to be a cog in the machine after 15 fucking expansions, it makes no sense. Stop pretending you do.

Yes they did. It's why you're ushered through the portal and everyone is like "Cool you seem like the kind of guy I can send in to raid a fort of demonic orcs!"