FF7 vs FF8 vs FF9

The best and the worst of PSX FFs.

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Unpopular opinion: Best is FFVIII and worst is FFIX.

VII > XI >>>>>>> VIII

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VIII > all

II > all FF

Doubling this

I love how easy it is to break the leveling system in 8

I hate how slow and boring the combat in 9 is

A shame 9 has great fmvs, music and a semi-logical story.

8 is the worst
Both mechanically and story wise it is an absolute mess.
Only high points are the visuals and soundtrack, but an excellent soundtrack is true for all three options.
So really, its only stand out feature when compared to the others is the visuals.

Go to bed SaGa.

How do you break FFVIII? Please teach me, i've never played the game before.

Woops, just realized I wrote XI instead of IX.

You draw powerful spells from the monsters and then "junction" them. If you simply bother, you can keep drawing one powerful spells in one battle, then junction all of them, and then you'll be unstoppable.

it's Cred Forums dude no one gives a shit if u make erros unlikes plebbyit

we gotchu pham. now go call your older sis and say hi or smthing

It's not necessarily breaking it as more such as it is an intentional feature, basically all your power comes from putting spells onto your characters, using card -> spell skill on one of the summons to beef up your character and using no-exp on diablos to stay at a low level, because all the monsters in the game scale to your level, but you don't actually get much stats leveling up.

Hard mode = Leveling up to 99

Easy mode = Staying at level 1-20

What does junction mean? Sorry, my English is my third language.

Play Triple Triad for rare cards early in the game
Mod rare cards into fat stacks of late game spells
Junction those spells to your stats.
Only fight bosses because the game has a dumb leveling scaling system.

I could never bring myself to do it though because you permanently lose those cards. The collector in me just couldn't let them go for spells that can be obtains by other means, even if those other means are tens of hours away.

fpbp

Do you literally mean just running from all random encounters? lol

Basically you fill slots with your spells, which increase your stats. Certain spells increase HP, others attack and so on.

What? Why would you mod any of the rare cards?

Yes random encounters are pointless

it's pretty easy

you don't get EXP from boss fights, so just escape from all random encounters, or better yet, use Card to turn monsters into Cards and then use Card Mod to break them down into high level spells and junction them onto your dudes

enemies scale according to level, so you can be low level but have really high stats by junctioning high leveling -ga spells or stuff like Quake and then just stomping the whole game

Do you guys have a video explaining this? I literally have no idea what these words mean.

Leveling in the game is retarded.

In theory I understand that they were trying to eliminate grinding by making sure your battle are always tailored to you,
but then they went and put fucking level caps on bosses, so you can actually still grind your way past the forced story fights.

Get the game, play the tutorial, goddamnit.

if you play the game it will explain it to you

basically the idea is that levelling up actually makes the game harder because enemies get stronger the higher level you are.

honestly the game is not that hard anyway - if you just play it normally you'll be fine. this is only if you want to become really overpowered and shit on everything

So when do the FF games actually get difficult? I've only beaten FFI-V and thought III was retardedly unfair.

Do the FF games "dumb down," so to speak?

You should play the game normally for the first run. If you break it the fights become incredibly fucking boring, well even far more so than they already are.

>What? Why would you mod any of the rare cards?

Quistis card turns into 3x Samantha Soul
1x Samantha Soul turns into 60x Triple and the refine ability to do that is on Diablos, so easy to get early game.

youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCA485A471F442E1D

this guy uploaded an entire playthrough with that mindset. He is minmaxing but if you just do 1/4 of what he does you can be extremely OP already at Timber

Just play the game, it does explain it all to you, but it won't explain that you can use the Card ability to turn monsters into cards iirc.

Also if you want to break the triple triad system to get all the cards you want you'll need this too.
pastebin.com/7tz535nP

You won't understand it now but when you've played some Triple Triad you'll be glad you have this.

They don't get difficult other than the original Japanese versions of 1-5.

Everything from 6 and on is easy, and the Western releases and ports/remakes of 1-5 are easy.

FF is the easiest jrpg series.

Can't you get rare cards again from QoC on the 4th disk anyway?

9>8>>For reference 10 was my first because PSX was my Castlevania box and SNES/GBC/GBA kept me quite happy.

That said, obviously I never played 7 as a wee lad. Going to it these days, having been blasted by the corporate whoring that Square put it through...I just can't see it as anything great. Good? Maybe, if I played long enough. But I haven't.

Have you gotten out of Midgar yet?

>1-5 are easy

Have you played III or IV DS?

Love playing all three on my ps3 still. You dont need to have a favorite. Just enjoy them each in their own way. And then cry because Square will never make games like those again

7>9>I just want another RPG with the materia system, fuck you Square and your shitty concept of innovation.

What was the best generation of FF?

I-III
IV-VI
or
VII-IX?

X and onwards is shit and so are the mmos so dont even talk about them,

VII-IX.

Also, stop derailing thread.

>I just want another RPG with the materia system
Why don't you try Lightning Returns then? Skills operate in similar ways, you level them up with multiple kinds which drop from monsters you kill and you customize gear with them.

Just don't get hung up over the retard characters or the bullshit story line.

>2013+3
>still using a ps3

FF8 = FF9 > FF7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FF12

9 > 7 > 8
its pretty close
8 is still one of my favorite games

Path of Exile has a pseudo materia system lad

best was 4-6
4 defined the series and 6 was its peak

if u love ps1 games ps3 is best

Is this going to be another "the moon is SOOOOO hard" meme episode?

III DS last dungeon, no save point

what the literal fuck

VII > IX > VIII.

it's funny, I have a ps4 but due to the ps4 not having private video chats, I still use my ps3 often to fap in chat haha

I used to do that shit too. Got boring though cause most chicks are guys anyway. Bet you did it for lots of guys without realizing.

IX = VIII = VII = VI

>close DS/3DS lid if you need a rest
>fight trash mobs, heal outside of battle as needed, like almost every FF dungeon ever

Oh, but it's long without a save point, ho-hum. You still approach it like any other late game FF dungeon.

From a gameplay standpoint? 9 is easily the worst.

>random encountershit
That's why 12 is superior.

They are all great and none of them is bad, neither is there an objectively best one.

For me it's: VII > VIII > IX

>mmo combat
>good

Let's not kid ourselves, the combat system in 12 is also bad.

I only beat 8, but I played the rest. For me it is:

8>7>9

>offline mmo
>good

12 is dogshit

But 9 is the best one

No materia bullshit that makes every character the same shit and let's not even discuss 8.

Best: 8

Worst: 9

IX > VII > VIII

Gameplay wise the materia system of VII was the most innovative providing the most customization and easily the most fun. IX was also simple but great.
VIII instead was completely broken piece of crap where you just needed to absorb magic and never ever level up. Serioursly what the hell were they thinking, the junction system is absolutely ridiculous.

Plot wise, VII probably has the best written plot but I personally dislike how "dark" the style of the game is.
VIII is mostly a teenager powerfantasy
IX has a beautifully told story with the most diverse cast of characters ever and the most unique style.

The earliest point I remember where you can fuck the game is by learning L Mag RF from siren, buying a shit load of tents and converting them to curagas. Junctioning it to HP gives you 3-4k+ on disc 1

9 is the worst.

While 9 is my favorite FF game, I'll respect your opinion if you think that 7 is better. But if you think that 8 is better than 9, or hell, anything that isn't 2 and 13 then you're a massive faggot.

I got 8 for a dollar, but 7 for free. So ff7 was infinitely better

the materia system allows you to do all kind of shit without really breaking the game since the most powerful boss pretty much require that. And that's without any of the bs like "level to 9999" like disgaea or "dodge 200 thunders" like FFX.
It was pretty much the most complex and original system.
VIII had hands down the worst system ever of any final fantasy.

Limit Breaks in 8 are fun
7's okay
9 is too slow

8 > 7 > 6

>13
are you for real

8 is way better, not just 7.

VII > IX > Tactics > VIII

All still good. VIII mostly gets shit for its characters and story, but the music and pre-rendered backgrounds are still masterful.

ITT: contrarian kids with ADD

>13

You retards realize that he's saying that XIII is bad, not good, right?

Well, you're probably actually just a samefag, but my point stands. Learn to read.

Lies. No way people watched you two

>Cred Forums likes 13 now

No wonder you guys are drooling all over bad kingdom hearts XV

But XV and KH have absolutely nothing in common with 13.

Try harder.

Real talk, how do I cure myself if I have ADD? I have 300 games on Steam and spend an average of like .5 hours on them. lol.

t. millenial w/ add and a smartphone

Trying to be cool is the worst thing that ever happened to Final Fantasy, and it all started with VIII.

9 has objectively the worst gameplay. Fucking no one has ever praised the gameplay of 9.
There are only 4 things people praise about 9: The story, the script, the characters, the music. But absolutely none of these things are amazing in 9.
The story of 9 goes to shit on the last disc, it has pointless characters like Quina and Amarant, etc.

9 is hands down the most flawed game out of the three, but some think the positives carry it enough.

Wrong.

"Trying to be cool" isn't even a thing. You're a fucking moron who can't think straight.

Not them, but I do it sometimes too. It's nice cause ps3's video chat is private. And I can prove it if anyone wants to watch lol

Flip VII and XI and that's what I'd post.

Probably an extra greater before VIII.

You're forgetting about the atmosphere, dipshit. I loved FFIX because of the lighthearted classic fantasy style of it.

Are you an idiot? Can you not see the visual differences between I - VII, IX and VIII, X - onward?

The old games weren't cool. Then VIII came along with it's visual kei design, big product tie-ins and crossovers, fashionable characters with clothing lines in real life. You're too young to remember.

Don't worry, almost everyone here is a millenial, myself included. Because the age range for millenials in 2016 is like 15 to 35.

People just like to pretend this isn't the case. It's apparently super cool to be a millenial who talks about how much they hate millenials while pretending not to be one.

>IX was also simple but great.

Because equipping gear to get skills was so fun. There wasn't even any real though to it either since you just the best gear you could buy in every new area.
The passive skills were mostly useless apart from the ones that blocked negative status effects and shit.
The summoning system was ass, the bosses and enemies complete pushovers (apart from the ones you were forced to lose) and so on.

I am replaying 9 right now so the stink of the shit gameplay is still fresh in my mind.

7 > 6 > 10 > 8 > 9

probably my top 5 in terms of FF games

i dont know, the series is pretty varied and I think there's no real consensus in terms of best FF games. I think everyone can agree that FF2 is easily the shittest game out of the mainline series, though

>Go to play VIII for the first time in 10 years
>Disc doesn't work on PS3 because of an obscure backwards compatibility issue only concerning a specific version of VIII
Thanks Sony.

All three are good games that I enjoy.

How do you define anything like that as "cool"? It seems to me you are having difficulty trying to articulate an actual problem with the game, instead you go off ranting on something completely subjective and fucking retarded. You're obviously young, if you can't see the way you explain things is explicitly moronic like that must have been a huge problem for you.

oh i bought them on psn

it has a simple AP system which works absolutely fine. If you want shitty gameplay system look at FF8 with its junction of FFX with the spherography that truly made every character except Yuna (because she can summon) a carbon copy of each other.
The "pointless" characters all had their personality. Quina is fun, Amarant well fuck Amarant nothing is perfect. 7 had Vincent that was pretty much there just because hurr durr vampires with tragic story and nothing else, and why the fuck not, it's still fun.
The only thing that goes to shit is the final boss but whatever, it's a Final Fantasy, if the final boss isn't some sort of demigod out of time and space then the devs fail at their mission or something.

8 goes full bullshit right from the start, has the whole cast of characters growing up together and then just forgetting because of lol forced plot points and the game is really full of that crap. It was just a powerfantasy appealing to teenagers wanting to be cool.
And it worked but it's just that.

Fuck you. I enjoyed playing FFII.

>FFII

well I actually finished it, so that automatically makes it better than I, III, V, XII and XIII

II is the third shittiest.

XIII and VIII are more offensively bad.

But it really doesn't make much difference when you get to the bottom 3.

I can at least understand and respect the rare person who likes II. VIII and XIII fans aren't even worth bothering with generally.

FF8 had a really amazing first disc. I think the entire first disc is one of my favourite FF experiences, but everything beyond that is pure trash

i really wanted to like it because i was a big fan of the setting. i'm not really liking how FF15 is turning out, but I do like how they are going back to the modern-fantasy setting like in 7 and 8

>9 has objectively the worst gameplay
This. 9's battle system is fucked since animations never pause the ATB timer.

>not liking V

One of the best main games. Replay it.

I explained what cool implies, specifically relating to the looks of the character and their fashion sense, which had become more connected to the real-life popular Japanese subcultures from the era and less about the medieval fantasy game aesthetic from previous games.

If you don't even understand what the post meant then don't make butthurt argumentative posts.

VI > All

this

>it has a simple AP system which works absolutely fine

No it's not fine. You never need to put even a single minute of thought into that system. You simply equip the shit with the best stats and move on without ever having to manage a single thing.
Combat almost entirely consists of mashing attack while Vivi uses some elemental spell.
The Trance system is also fucking trash. You have no control over it at all and it takes a long time to build up, meaning there's no strategy there either and it is almost always wasted.

>the "pointless" characters all had their personality

Quina added NOTHING to the story or the world. NOTHING. If anything she only detracted from the experience. Her character can be summed with with "Can I eat it?" and that's the shitty running joke throughout the entire fucking game with that character.
Amarant was dogshit and also added jack shit.
Vincent was a fucking OPTIONAL character (that's right, shitbirds like Quina were not optional but mandatory) that had way more story relevance than either Quina or Amarant. So even if you got Vincent it still felt like he had more of a reason to be there than fucking Quina that you're just babysitting.

Fuck I am getting so fucking mad about all the dumb shit in 9 right now that fuckheads like you defend or just handwave away. 9 is way more shit than I thought it was growing up.

>offline mmo meme
nan, 12's combat system is one of the best if not the best. It's not designed for an MMO.

>FF8 had a really amazing first disc
Not really.

Disc 2 has D-District prison, Missile Base, Garden riot, Fisherman's Horizon and Garden wars.
Disc 3 has Esthar, space and Lunatic Pandora.

The discs are more or less even in terms of impressive shit that people might be into.

I don't agree. II is in the upper half of the mainline for me. Although barely. It's the 8th out of 18. For two more months VIII will be the worst mainline game, unless I'm surprised.

>out of 18

What the fuck?

yeah, it's designed for an offline MMO
and even if you ignore the battle system (which you can, thanks to gambits) it still has the most boring OST, cast, world and plot in the series
and the licence board was garbage

7 > 8 > 9
9 is the worst of the three because of the slow as fuck battles with extra slow queuing issues and because it's got no soul while rehashing the past 8 games.

I consider direct sequels and prequels mainline.

14 games minus two MMOs, three sequels... that's 15, add in After Years, Crisis Core and something else and you'd get 18 games. Honestly I have no clue how he's counting them.

Should I play IV: TAY?

1-14
X-2
XII: Revenant Wings
XIII-2
Lightning Returns


Did I get it right?

People like to write off the other 3 discs because the story goes to shit in them while forgetting all the other stuff that happens.

In the end it doesn't matter as long as everyone accepts that VIII has the best soundtrack.

Now that I think about it: what if you took the IZJS class boards, shrunk them a bit, added more quickening nodes and put entire sections of licences behind them so even within singular classes there's be actual routes towards specialisation?

I keep forgetting Revenant Wings exists.

Personal favorite > second one I played > third one I played

fight me

How should I know? I said I've only experienced 18 games, which is why I said "for me" originally. I haven't gotten around to The After Years yet, but hopefully somewhat soon.

why do you even need licences for equipment and abilities anyway?
It's not like you can get the most powerful spells and weapons at the start of the game so they needed to find a way to limit you
it's just there to increase the grind
it makes no sense if you have a job system in place either
your stats, abilities and equipment are already determined by your current job

It gives a sense of progression? It wouldn't even be an issue if the LP requirements were scaled down. It might've also been a balance thing since the game's geography is semi-nonlinear and it's possible to obtain mid-tier gear quite early on.

FF threads are always a shit fest.

I'd say the game was designed without the expectation of mad grinding, so players would choose and progress along a "path", but since people grind anyway, I guess that's why the Zodiac version came into play.

You're biased as hell mate.

The AP system of 9 was perfectly fine, you learnt skill from equipment, so you juggled using whatever had the best stats with whatever had the skills you wanted or whatever you needed to face a boss/certain type of enemy (unless you grinded to learn all skills asap, then you equipped whatever had the best stats). The equipment you wore also modified stat gains on level up but that was a hidden nuance. Then you had skill points or whatever they were called to allocate your skills. Was the system as good as the materia system? No. But it was decent and something new. Trance was also a gamble, something different to see how it worked and how people liked it. The idea was that you'd get trance for sure in long/difficult fights (bosses, basically) but on regular encounters you'd get it now and then.

Quina was also pretty much optional, you can even just leave behind on some parts of the game; he barely ever speaks much either. If you don't like the character that's fine but that doesn't mean it's bad. If you do sidequests you can find some more about him but overall he's a just a creature from the world that ended up with the party. Not everyone needs to have a wondrous and deep backstory or reason for being there. Amarant is the same, he just tags along to see what the big fuss is and you can use him or not, it's up to you.

VII is the best if you like shitty translations and you've never played games with 3d graphics before.

VIII is best if you speedrun the game, ignore a quarter of the content, and level up via playing card games.

IX is best if you like faux Shakespearean dialogue a la Nippon, and furries.

IX>VII>VIII

VII is the best by default.

I couldn't get over VIII's leveling system or how slow the battles were in IX.

What was the issue with VIII's level scaling anyway? Some of the monsters have worse stats than you do at level 100, and the overwhelming majority of them top out at below 50k HP. There's only a handful of monsters that beef the fuck up and they're the kind that are supposed to be tough in the first place. Almost none of the story bosses can even go past level 50.

Level influences the quality of magic that enemies have stocked. The point wouldn't be to level up, but collect stronger and stronger magic to junction to your stats.

You can pretty much beat the game without leveling up while using card game winnings to refine into magic and make yourself stronger.

It's sounds stupid, but is actually fun if you like Triple Triad.

You can reach disc 4 without ever junctioning any spells. But that doesn't explain why people hate the level scaling.

IX has best girl.

thats a guy lol

>playing FFVIII
>use the magic lamp immediately
>grind AP to get Encounter-None from Diablos
>play through entire game without random encounters, only to take them off to get Tonberry
>use winnings from Triple Triad to stock magic to buff characters
>mfw the best Final Fantasy released on Playstation (ignoring Tactics) is a card game with turn based battles every once in a while

Simple, they hate the level scaling because they level up.

They're all masterpieces, but Cred Forumss autism makes them feel the need to arbitrarily rank them.

i disagree. Balthier was the best (no mc) FF character. OST was awesome as expected of Sakamoto. When you hear it, you know you are in Ivalice. Ivalice is the best FF world and of the most develloped. Plot is ok for an unifinished game. It's not like the other FF have an outstanding plot, except for Tactics which was a real masterpiece.


Still you won't have an MMO with FFXII gameplay, it doesn't work like that. See XIV's gameplay is the kind of think you will have. I think you mean "3D open world." With that, i agree with you.

QT

>FF8
>get siren
>grind 30 AP for card refine(healing)
>buy 20 tents at balamb(1 tent = 5 curagas)
>100 curaga to squalls health
>4000 health after the dollet mission
>keep him at 500 health(more than average at that point)
>yellow health so you can spam renzokuken

kek

Even if you play VIII wrong and grind, it still isn't a tough game.

Omega can be a dick but that's about it.

>Balthier was the best (no mc) FF character
I wasn't particularly impressed, he seemed like a watered down han solo
none of the characters were fleshed out or had much dialogue, and the dialogue they had was delivered in such an emotionless fashion that it didn't even matter
the judges were more interesting than your party members ffs
>OST was awesome as expected of Sakamoto.
his battle themes are good, but otherwise his work in XII is mostly unmemorable
all of it is orchestral so it just kind of blends in
>Ivalice is the best FF world and of the most develloped.
mostly brown areas with copypasted dungeons, needlessly huge and empty - doesn't come close to the worlds of the PS1 titles
>Plot is ok for an unifinished game
still doesn't change the fact that it's unfinished or terribly paced with long stretches where fuck all happens
I forgot the mostly unrewarding hunts which served to pad the game further and the terrible bazaar system


I'll give you that Tactics was a masterpiece

Same. I fucking love FFVIII. Dat world and dat soundtrack and dat Laguna

FPBP and Triple Triad alone cinches it.

Objectively: 9 > 8 > 7
Personally: 8 > 9 > 7

Unpopular opinion : Tetra master > Triple Triad

7 most balanced

8 broken system but unique world and technically amazing for its time

9 character specific weapons, armor, abilities made it uninteresting in some ways but overall a solid entry and my least favorite on ps1.

Triple Triad mastubation has always been a meme since before Cred Forums existed.

People played VIII in middle school and did good at TT because it's fucking braindead, so they like it.

Other than getting some key cards to break down for junctioning, I don't even bother with it on subsequent playthroughs.

No reason not to break the cards down to be more powerful in the actual game, because TT itself is a snoozefest.

>FFVII the best on psx

literally the ONLY good part of FFVII is the first 20 minutes of the game and when tifa and cloud literally fall into the fucking lifestream after the eartquake

I have FFVIII on Steam but i have never played it. Should i?

Btw

IX > VII

>Plus
>Same
>Combo

These 3 words haunt my nightmares

Third'd

This guy here seems to analyze characters very thoroughly, and is able to put into words why I liked the characters (namely Laguna)

youtube.com/watch?v=QL-SLTVFclA

>not Random
I know it's easy to get rid of your weak cards but still

I tried playing TT and I could not win a fucking game

You're kidding right? Do they have grade school in your country?

>because TT itself is a snoozefest

Just play Open-Random-Same-Plus ruleset. It's secretly the most exciting variant. (I never play Triple Triad for the refining. That would make it a job and ruin it. I keep the game separate and just draw and refine the Doomtrain and weapon components.)

>Do they have grade school in your country?
yes but the problem was that the enemies always had one card that they played at the end if the match giving them victory. and because I could not win, I could not get any new cards

Was that the Lunar Base variant?

Start with easy targets who give you big cards, like that kid running around Balamb Garden gives you MiniMog, some of the students in the library give you that Dragon with two 7s, and the kids at the back of the cafeteria have the Quistis card if you play it enough.

Also, you should've gotten Ifrit after defeating him, as well as Diablos.

It's been years since I've played this, but there should be an entire guide on how to be the king of games.

IX > VII > VIII

You should play VIII to complete the trilogy.
The game is fine, the story goes to shit halfway through but it's tolerable for the most part.

Fpbp. I'm continually astounded by how high faggots rate IX considering it's numerous shortcomings. After 2 innovative titles, and after no small amount of bitching about VIII after it dared to do away with a few sacred cows and do some new stuff, Square phoned it in and pushed out IX as a not-even-thinly-veiled nostalgia wankfest. Slow, boring, and pitifully easily combat with awful boss fights filled with Zidane spendon 90% of the fight failing to steal anything. The worst limit break system ever. Painfully dull level up system with a 1/10th of the depth and choice from 7 or 8. A shit cast with numerous poorly written characters, saved only due to Vivi as one of the best characters Square ever wrote. A mediocre story that holds your hand until balls deep in the fucking THIRD DISC, the same thing X gets shit for, BUT with the additional fun of having your party broken up during that entire time so you can't even use the characters you do want for like 75% of the game.

I just don't get it. Fucking nostalgia goggles piss me right the fuck off.

>Start with easy targets who give you big cards, like that kid running around Balamb Garden gives you MiniMog,

I tried and lost.

>Also, you should've gotten Ifrit after defeating him, as well as Diablos.
beating summons gets you their cards? I kinda stopped caring for the card game after beating Ifrit

>I kinda stopped caring for the card game after beating Ifrit

He's literally the first mission in the game, how could you stop caring when you've barely started? Anyway, most people tend to start playing cards after Ifrit, you should be able to win a lot of games with him alone.

Someone didn't enjoy the online version of TT called TTX with decks from IV, V, VI, VII, IX, X, FFT and Xenogears, I presume. Collecting decks, unlocking rare cards and actually playing against real human opponents was the hughlight of my teen years,

it's been a while since I played FF8.

I might if started cards after beating Ifrit and I lost it

This is literally the first time I've heard of it.

Wouldn't have bothered with it anyway as I found TT boring. Why would I have gone out of my way to play more of it?

I mean, I'm sure it's much better with more cards and real people.

IX>VII>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>VIII

i like all of them

I wonder what actually caused the upswing in IX's popularity in recent years.

VII >> IX >>>> VIII
imho

No doubt about it.

And I say this preferring VII's cast/theme the most.

More like 7's, it was always the most hated here until Spoony's 8 "review".

>revisionist/youngfag history

Pretty much the entire 2000s consisted of people arguing between VI and VII for best game. IX was largely treated as the red headed stepchild.

The rise in IX's popularity can be attributed to two things: nostalgia driven horseshit and contrarians who can't admit that VII is and always has been the best of the PS1 FF games. Like said no one took IX seriously as the best FF game until fairly recently, and for good reason.

I hated playing through 8 the first time around, but then I decided to give it another replay years later and suddenly fell in love with it. It's really one of those games you need to play more than once to truly enjoy.

Also, Zell is best boy. Made grinding tonberries so much more easier.

Not on Cred Forums.

And that music is just something else. After playing 7, I remember feeling a distinct elevation in quality from 8's soundtrack.

Fisherman's Horizon and Laguna's theme aside, this here is probably the most memorable track for me

youtube.com/watch?v=qLkc8OujUZU

IX > VII > VIII personally but I like all three. VIII's problem is of course that's it's a bit too easy and I feel that some of the characters are less interesting than in VII and IX.

And yes, I am aware of Freya's and Amarant being pretty much forgotten by the story by Disc 3 but they're still characters I like a lot.

Cred Forums 8 years ago had this fucking retarded thing going on where people would shitpost about whether or not FF7 or Ocarina of Time was the best game ever made while the Spoony review caused a whole lot of "wtf I hate FF8 now"

I feel like FF9 became more popular here over the years because A, it became cool to shit on FF7 and B, that Spoony review made people realize that FF8 has faults and that suddenly made it a hot pile of garbage.

>not Balamb Garden and Eyes On Me and all their variations
youtube.com/watch?v=G_jOR3V07Xw

If you liked Fisherman's Horizon you should appreciate this.
youtube.com/watch?v=rJoqSnBrOic

Amarant got all his character development on disc 3.

FF7 was the most hated before the Spoony review, as I said before.

True. I wish he and Freya had gotten more attention and character development though but I'm guessing time and budget constraints ruined that.

>tfw there'll never be an FFIX remake with extended story to give all characters better and deeper character development.

It was more that because everyone was too busy shitting on 6, 7, 8, 10 and 12 they didn't have the time to shit on 9. So the 9 fans began to think that it didn't get complaints because it was the best and not because it was simply overlooked by all.

7 was hated because people couldn't separate the AC/KH fanbase from the actual game. One day it stopped and all of a sudden we could have civil discussion without talking about Tifa's tits.

It's a real word that means something that connects things, typically where pathways/roads meet.

In FFVIII it has a new meaning. It means you can attach some spell you've acquired to your guardian force (read: esper or summon). This adds a bonus to a certain stat of the character equipped with the GF. A GF needs an ability for each stat to junction magic to it. The more powerful the spell, the greater the boost. Magic can be obtained in many different ways. The 'typical' way of doing this is taking some from a monster. However, the spell power scales with the monster level. If you're a low level, you can only get shitty spells this way. You can get high level magic from items or cards.

You can see how the 'complexity' of the system allows for exploitation of it.

What do people hear in VIII's ost that I don't? Like, completely ignoring any comparisons to other games, I just don't get it. On average the tracks are mediocre and the midi quality was not good enough to mimic real instruments yes, the synth strings especially are grating.

FF7 was hated before Advent Children even came out.

>On average the tracks are mediocre
This is where the disagreement take place.

Anyone who says VIII is better than VII or IX is a memester, anyone that says IX is better than VII was too young to play the first PSX FF and jumped on the wagon when the last one was released.

This is the objective truth.

The point isn't that it's long and hard to do in one sitting. The point is that if you die on the final boss, you get sent back to right before you started the dungeon. The penalty for loosing to that final boss is about 2 hours of your life

most people actually like synth as its own instrument

>game number 4 defined its series

Ok.

VIII >>>>>> IX >>>> shit > VII

So do I, when it tries to be that instead of poorly mimicking real instruments. VII's midi is fine, I like VII's ost quite a lot. Realistic sounding synth reached an acceptable quality when consoles moved to the next generation.

I want to take Freya out on a date!

It's pretty much a low effort FF4 romhack, with the team attack system from Chrono Trigger.

I think 9 is the most difficult to break.

7 can be broken fairly easily. Most Enemy Skills that can be acquired in Disc 1 will last you most of the game, like White Wind, Beta, Big Guard, etc.

But to truly break it wide open, I think can only be done toward the end of disc 2.

FF8 on the other hand? You can break that shit SO early. Level up Quetzalcoatl until he gets card mod. Learn all the magic refine skills from him and Shiva. Play the FUCK out of the card game, and refine spells from items and cards.

Last playthrough about a year back, Quistis and Squall were lvl 85, had their second best weapons, and the best spells you could get at that point.

All before fighting Ifrit.

Pic related, mfw I basically strong-armed the entire game

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>Quistis and Squall were lvl 85

gee nice job

that doesn't mean shit when FF8 level scales

Exactly, so you didn't break crap.

4 laid the foundation of modern Final Fantasy and the formula was barely changed until XI. So yeah, it defined the series.

>the most boring OST, cast, world and plot in the series
Wrong on every single level.

my nigga!

Best FF7

Worst FF9

For gameplay yes.
For story, FF6 defined the storytelling style that was used in all games going forwards.

FF9>FF7/FF8

IX and VII both top tier
VIII middle tier

My favourite is VII
After Spoony's review i thought VIII is really bad, but spoony just moron, that talks about shit.
Bought in Steam VIII, really liked it.
FF9 don't know, i played it at psp, but psp broked, bought in steam, but yet not playing.