How could this be allowed in this time and age?

How could this be allowed in this time and age?

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>that tiny corner of beach
>Beach Theme
okay

what is the problem here?

yeah where are their burqas? for that matter where are their male chaperones?

this is offensive to peaceful religious people and grossly racist

Heavily
sexualized
women
2016

>heavily
i don't see them posing in a overly sexual manner, they're just standing there

Women in bathing suits aren't sexualized.

Do you ever get tired of ironic shitposting?

>look look, i'm impersonating one of those sjws, let's all gather 'round and jerk each other off over how much we hate them

Like, couldn't you at least wait for someone to say something stupid and attack that, rather than play pretend?

Is this some sort of ERP where you pretend to be offended and masturbate as everyone tells you how stupid you are?

Explain your post to me, explain to me your thought process. I want to know. Who are you trying to fool? Who are you trying to impress?

Why is Shantae so fucking hot?
>Dem hips
>That bust

Good lord

calm down your autismn you cucklord
people are just having some fun

Are you seriously posting this

on Cred Forums of all places. Holy Christ get a clue man.

Would pirate

Calm down you cuck.

triggered as fuq

Those Tinkerbats are C U T E.

Half-Genie Hero when?

Too bad Shantae is not best girl.

You forgot >delicious brown

Why are Americans so prudish about sex in video games when it is rampant in every other aspect of their society?

This post is correct. 1998 fags have nothing to say but calm down. Ironic shit posting is still shitposting
Faggots

I just can't tell if you're fucking retarded or just baiting.

You guys have pretty much erased the line between the two.

When people complain about sexualization, it's because it's out of place or unreal or doesn't fit the character/universe.

Shantae is a cheery upbeat girly girl in a bright and colorful universe where every female is sexualized, even the monster ones, so she fits the world's aesthetic. It feels genuine, and she's always smiling while kicking ass.

Shantae's sexualization doesn't detract from her character, while poorly done oversexualized often does.
>inb4 betawhiteknightbluepillwhateverthefuck

this tbqh
ironic shitposting and idpol in general is fucking cancer

Mid November unless they delay it AGAIN.

Cause they're not white

>Make ironic shitposting about girls in beaches
>haha so fumy my man, comedy gold

>Make a thread about someone bitching about girls in bechaes
>HOW FUCKING DARE THEY! FUCK SJW MUH CENSORSHIP

I don't honestly know. Maybe because videogames are seen as something meant for children and therefore they shouldn't teach about "mature" things like sex.

Yea but boobies are awesome so who cares if it doesn't fit anyway.

I

Yeah. That would be Risky Boots.

>wasting money on fanservice instead of actually improving your damn game

>When people complain about sexualization

Who the fuck cares if your gender is used for sex purposes?

As a fat loser neckbeard I see strong dudes in speedos often being portrayed as society's standards and doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Why do women get so bitchy about seeing other women being used for eye candy?

It's fucking human nature.

This. Ironic SJW shitposting is getting tiresome.

>it's because it's out of place or unreal or doesn't fit the character/universe.

a fictional setting needs REALISM!!!!

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You make a good point but at the same time do you feel the sexualization is a little "elephant in the room" at all? Because that's the worst kind of sexualization to me. Like, where do I draw the line between staring at Shantae's body vs actually respecting her and her game seriously and legitimately?

Sexualization is tricky for me because if it's not explicitly part of the character's personality, or at least poked fun at over the course of the game in a tongue-and-cheek way, it comes off as cheap marketing that nobody ever mentions because they want to retain a feeling of legitimacy in their fanservice game.

CURRENT
YEAR

>fanservice means more sales
>that means more money to improve the game
>????

Censoring for arbitrary reasons like "muh creepyness" or "muh current year" is a terrible practice that's almost never justified, showing a bit more skin or trying to convey an unpopular opinion on the other hand is perfectly fine as the authors of a certain game are free to do whatever the fuck they want with their own game.

but 2016 is sexist so everyone oversexualizes women
that's how it works right

>fanservice means more sales

How about this instead:

>better gameplay means more sales

How about using that instead of pandering to the lowest common denominator?

Maybe, maybe not, either way things MUST change.

>When people complain about sexualization, it's because it's out of place or unreal or doesn't fit the character/universe.

Fuck off back to tumblr you fucking idiot.

Just good gameplay doesn't sell.
Sorry user.

Because pandering to the lowest common denominator is far safer and safety is really important when you've got such a tiny budget.

>Shantae thread

*unzips dick*

TIME TO LE

If making a good game isn't your primary concern, then why even go into this business? Just make porn and stop diluting the industry as is. This is no better than those meme games on steam greenlight that are there to be clickbait for pewdiepie and markiplier, or those walking simulators meant to be "art" and "deep".

I'd rather take a good game that's obscure than well selling meme trash. And right now Shantae is on par with Shower with your Dad Simulator.

>better gameplay means more sales

How about instead:

>More people of color and social issues in your game means more sales

How about using that instead of pandering to the lowest common denominator?

Where is my Senran Kagura theme?

you're right
women need to be sexier

Forgetting the irony in your post for second:

>implying that there's anything more important than gameplay in your game

If that isn't the main appeal, why are you playing games in the first place?

It's probably just money that would be spent in marketing.

You literally ignored the content of those posts to keep barreling through with your retarded point.

GOOD GAMEPLAY != SALES

I find that attitude to be a little problematic

>When people complain about sexualization, it's because it's out of place or unreal or doesn't fit the character/universe.

Nothing about video games is realistic. Plus, if they don't like what they see, they don't have to buy the game.

This. Unfortunately here on Cred Forums everyone posts for one and only one reason: (you).

That was my point. I don't care about sales. I want good gameplay above all else. If you were a good developer, you wouldn't care about sales either. They'd be a nice incentive, but just making a good game would be enough.

greed != good game

Didn't you know? As of 2016, you can get a job shitposting. It's the only thing millennials have discovered they're good at.

Dat vagina curvature.

WayForward is based

Agreed. Nobody knows how to start a thread so they all do the pseudo-SJW thing for laughs, only it's a worn and tired joke. I've probably seen more ironic SJW posting than the real thing. Of course, I quit browsing Kotaku and all those other SJW sites long ago.

>If you were a good developer, you wouldn't care about sales either.
You know, unlike you some people are grownups with bills to pay.

It's almost as if the strawman SJW boogeyman that exists in GGs mind isn't actually censoring videogames

Almost...

What's his name?

>If you were a good developer, you wouldn't care about sales either
lmao you're just delusional kid

Sex appeal/sexiness is no less valid or legitimate of a character trait than any other trait. She's a belly-dancing genie, so she's supposed to be sexy. And everything seems all in good fun so I never found any of the overt sexiness in this game in bad taste.

>this entire post
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So btw, was the dad or the mother a genie?

The lowest common denominator rarely cares about good gameplay.

Just look at the best selling games from the last few generations.

So play something else. There's millions of shitty indie games on and off Steam. This is turning into "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE"

>Drawing tits is an expensive process, every cup size is another cool-million

Pretty sure her mom was a genie.

It's not that it's not happening, it's just that some brave and valiant souls just don't care and still keep doing what they're best at despite what the world is throwing against them.

OH GOD NOT BREASTS

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

If only.

But Shantae already has good games. The fanservice is just icing on the cake.

Why do people always automatically assume games are bad if they include fanservice?

>ywn marry Risky Boots

People don't care about gameplay. Why do you think the best selling and most highly praised games are garbage like Uncharted and The Last Of Us?

>games can never be a passion project you make just because
>they have to be about getting as much $$$ as possible

Boy, I feel sorry for anyone who gets suckered into this kinda mindset. It's the exact reason why people waste so much on graphics and story and advertising, as they're expecting a return on the money they flush down the toilet.


Pic related already disproves your "more money = better game" fallacy.

Her mom was a genie. Her dad is Karnov.

Post Shantae brehs

neo Cred Forums, everyone.

>it costs four hundred thousand dollars to jerk off to this nice pair of tits for twelve seconds

>shantae already has good games

Yeah nah. It's basically Metroid but without any exploration, and constant cutscenes shoved in your face, and tasteless fanservice.

That pile of garbage known as Risky's Revenge is proof enough.

>this joke isn't funny anymore
>YOU DON'T GOBBLE DOWN SHIT AND ASK FOR SECONDS, NEO-Cred Forums ALERT
Uh huh.

Tarn is a goddamn anomaly. Fucker has a DOCTORATE IN GODDAMN MATHEMATICS and yet he's so pure he's dedicated his whole life to creating his dream game.

I wish more people in the western game industry had his spirit and love for gaming.

You could've outed yourself as a fedora neckbeard sooner so I could have disregarded everything you said from the start.

don't worry, we were all new at one point.

The world is a horrible place to live man.

>Every game should be a passion project done for free
We don't all have the luxury of living rent-free in our parents basement.

W101 had good gameplay, so why didn't it sell well? Why hasn't Deus Ex or Thief sold CoD numbers? Why didn't La Mulana sell CoD numbers or why didn't it's sequels kickstarter go all the way?

...

Aight im not gonna go into this sexualisation bullshit but this fucking argument is garbage, just because something is fiction doesnt mean it shouldnt be consistent in its theme, imagine if kirby suddenly started changing waddle dees for semi naked lolis would you still be able to argue, "oh well its fiction so it fits"?

seeIf you want to charge money for your game, then that's perfectly fine. But it's not mandatory, and some of the most successful people have pulled it off just because they could. A guy with a doctorate in mathematics certainly isn't who I'd call a "neckbeard living with his parents".

>We don't all have the luxury of living rent-free in our parents basement.
Tarn lives on his own in a small apartment, living off donations. Doujinshi developers usually spend their free-time when they're not at work making their game to show off at Comiket or some other convention, making said game because they love making games rather than for profit.

>do you feel the sexualization is a little "elephant in the room" at all?
No.

they are underage
so its ok

Are you implying that those are good games user? If you are, then you're proving my point: a game is good regardless of the sales it gets. You certainly like those games, right? So clearly it doesn't matter if they sold alot, and you wouldn't ever change them just to garner more sales, right? For example, would you ask Kamiya and Platinum to put social justice issues in Wonderful 101, if it meant a few more sales from tumblr?

I just got it.
The music loop is not very well made...
But the other grills are nice.

Your feelings don't matter. Stop being hypersensitive.

>a consumer has the place to decide whether something does or does not have a place in the artist's work
I dare you to look at any surrealism or cubism.
You don't have a fucking clue why or how the creators make their decisions, and you have no place on deciding whether it "fits." It is designed as it is designed.

that's a wonderful thing

why wouldn't they?

FUCKING HACKS STOP DRAWING CUTE GIRLS AND WORK ON YOUR GAME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Cool standard you're setting, everyone should just have a doctorate in mathematics and a legion of fans willing to donate. Problem solved, right?

Do you honestly believe everyone can live by this model?

What's the song?

No, you said better gamepay equals better sales. And I just now noticed you backpedaled before.

Casuals have damaged the industry beyond repair.

I'm sure there are people that unironically believe that sales = quality.

>Like, where do I draw the line between staring at Shantae's body vs actually respecting her and her game seriously and legitimately?

It's a fictional character.

>Cool standard you're setting, everyone should just have a doctorate in mathematics and a legion of fans willing to donate.

Those aren't mandatory either. You could be one guy in his basement programming just because.

There was a time when Cred Forums was much more equally critical and didn't just parrot the alt-Right because LEL Cred Forums IS WHERE YOU GO TO HATE THINGS. Then again, you'd already know that if you weren't neo Cred Forums.

>No, you said better gamepay equals better sales.
Better doesn't mean "more sales". It means you're getting your game to the right people, which means they'll be good fans. I should've clarified that earlier. My bad.

You can reach for the COD audience and make your game shallow and easy, and it might get you more money in the short gun, or you could secure a loyal fanbase with smaller monetary returns, but they'll never ask you to tackle white privilege in your game, or make it less "videogamey" because they want to watch lets plays while they play the game.

It's a hard dichotomy to explain.

You can check the songs when selecting the design in the shop.
For the beach skin it is:
propeller town
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Someone post punk Shantae

>It's a fictional character.
Not once I finish my shantae tulpa.

You're a fucking retard. If every game you ever want to play is small in scope, one-man effort passion project that probably took years to make, help yourself. You can't expect the video game industry to work like the exceptions to the rule.

>waa why won't everyone make video games for free
>waa why won't everyone make cartoons for free
>waa why won't everyone make movies for free
>waa why won't everyone write books for free
Kill yourself, kid.

So all criticism is invalid because a media creator's vision should be immutable?

Are you sure you want to go with this stupid argument?

Tulpas aren't real dumb dumb

Do you whip out your dick and start masturbating every time you go to the beach user?

Definitely not with that attitude.

From what I gather, tulpas are essentially induced schizophrenia

Where the hell the white girls at? Fucking racist dev.

that shit sexy as fuck

Because Wayforward does sexualization right. it is tasteful, fits the narrative and universe, is not all up in your face all the time and is more of an hommage to the beauty of women's physical aesthetics than it is an exploitation of it for easy sales.

Because, yes, there is such a thing as sexualization done in bad taste and, yes, the videogame industry is infected of it like syphilis. I never opposed sexualization of women in any media, but when the producers of content I enjoy treat me like a prepubescent 11 years old who gets a raging boner from any instance of a semi naked tit, I feel insulted.

That being said, Shantae got a shitload of complaints from ahrdcore SJW because, to SJW, there is no such thing as good sexualization because SJW are hypocrites who don'T know what they want. They will cover half naked women in burkas to save them from the patriarchy and also rip the burka off of actual muslims to "liberate" them from the patriarchy. They are idiots who don't even know what they are fighting for. They drink a type of coolaid like the vast majority of people who like to pretend that they are activists.

yea and I think some of them are on this board

>hurr hurr if it exists inside your head then it's not real
Are thoughts not real?

What about dreams?

How about instead of being jealous you get your own tulpa gf.

No but I can't really say I haven't felt like to several times in the past.

>ABLOO ABLOO, 'MEMBER WHEN Cred Forums WERENT SO MEAN???

Has /jp/ ever tried conjuring a Touhou tulpa? How did it go?

do you not?

Who are you to tell a creator he is "wrong" in his creation when he fully intended to create it in the manner in which he did?
Just because you don't like it or it doesn't make sense does not make the work any less valid.