Where do you stand on the issue of female armors in video games?

I think they often look pretty dumb but as long as it fit the setting i don't care much

Love bikini-mail type armor.
Similarly, I like the loincloth berserker type "armor" on men as well.

It's a fun style.

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honorable mention

It all depends on the tone the game is going for.

Although I think metal bikinis are always goofy as hell. I'm honestly not that big of a fan of the 80's "barbarian" style fantasy, but to each their own.

Monster Hunter does a good job of having fantastical armor designs that still look good.

if its sexy its fine and if its practical its fine
it being an issue is the only issue the topic has

Who the fuck needs armor if you never get hit?

The only time armour bugs me is if it's Fantasy armour that doesn't even looks like it fits in it's own game, in abundance.

They should be more like Titania, Hilde and Chris Lightfellow.

slutty armor for dex based females
slutty armor for magic based females
decent armor for stamina/endurance based females
super slutty armor for berserk based females.
sluttiest armor for Charisma based females.

This.

Any armour is fine, as long as it's consistent.

Everyone is wearing full plate? Perfect

Everyone is barely wearing anything, even men? Perfect

Some people are wearing full plate while others wear bikini armour? Unless they have a damn good explanation, that shit is stupid.

Why not slutty clothes and keep armor as armor?

Women and armor don't belong in the same sentence

there was never an issue to start with

Erect

Looks like Scat with Shielder's armor

What's the point of dark elves?

To be shameless sluts

They usually look too dumb to be sexy.

I like female armors to be ultra realistic while I slay dragons with my 8 meters sword

I think it looks stupid but if it's a an anime game like the one pictured I guess I don't care.

If a game is trying to take itself seriously though and all the men have reasonable armor and the women have their tits busting out though I think that looks bad.

Women in combat are disgusting and retarded. There is absolutely nothing they could do on a battlefield that 14 years old boy couldnt do better.

Moe as fuck

I stand perfectly straight.

Don't you know that a majority of the world's greatest assassins are women?

>80's fantasy
It's called high fantasy

As much as I like me some tiddies, if female armour is just slutwear compared to males more reasonable armour, it's pretty jarring.
Best way to do it is to give everyone slut and normal options

God forbid the icky girls be in my realistic fantasy video games.

those aren't real right?

This guy gets it

Women on the battlefield is just a prebuscent fantasy. All you realistic armour babbys get out.

WHY ARE HER ARM PITS SO PERFECT
GOOOD WHY DID YOU CREATE THIS FETISH??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!1

Women in realistic armour turn me on more tbqh.

deja vu, i've just read this post before
higher in the thread and now it's your time to go

Humans on the battlefield is fantasy at this point.

But none of us are rushing out to play "Chair Force Simulator 2016".

A game where you spend the afternoon bombing ISIS convoys from a computer and then go home with your wife and kids doesn't sound fun.

Full armor is the best. It looks the prettiest and most noble. Course if the girl is a slut, boob revealing stuff works anyways.

Your pic is utterly off-topic, but i like it anyway

It sounds like something Indieshitters would make in minimalistic artstyle and polygon would salivate at it.

I don't really view women as worthy opponents to begin with, no matter how much steel they wrap around their twig arms and birthing hips, so i'm down with it.

It means its the correct opinion since its the popular one :^)

Literally you

what's going on here?

Anticipated kek, knew I would trigger Cred Forums, this place is worse than Tumblr these days

Breasts hang Cred Forumsirgin

I think it's called "shadow"

>not chink.jpg

I'm talking about the strap that just ends under the boob

I like bikini armor, realistic armor, and boob forming armor. They're all nice and it depends on the tone you want to go for with the character and story.

>making sense of anime armor design

user, pls

It ends under her boob.

I don't really care, I think sexy armor is fun in some games but generally don't play video games to nut. Some of the absolute most ridiculous stuff I find impossible to take seriously or find appealing. Modesty is attractive, I guess.

I wish women in full armor were more common though because I find it extremely sexy.

Full fantasy. As eroticized as possible without going full retard, IE wearing a bikini when it's snowing.

Can't stand people pretending to take women as combatants seriously.

If you're going to create fantasy women that are on equal footing or greater from a physical/speed standpoint to men, at least give me something gorgeous to look at.

Otherwise i'm just going to roll my eyes, have a laugh and take my $$ to another game.

I like tits. I just depends on what type of story or theme the game is going for.

obviously if it was going for a more grim/realistic approach, tits everywhere and scantily clad armor wouldn't exactly be appropriate.

Female armor is the best.

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I like it all, basically.

Anything as long as there's no high heels, that's where it goes too far

You can't fight shit in high heels

Consistent art direction is all I care about. Can be as grounded or as over-the-top as you want.

Needs to be sexier

I'm basically a fan of all female armor types, but even if I wasn't I believe every decision should be made by the creators with a 'fuck you' attitude to any whiners

I agree with you. Red Sonja doesn't look stupid next to Conan. But all those asian mmo pandering sluts look ridiculous next to fully armored men.

And there's those faggots
Really, what made you so bitter?

Unfortunately, you cannot do that because of "political correctness"

Is there magic in the world?
If yes then go sex-crazy , I don't mind

If no then it depends on world building I guess.

I love women with giant shields!

>Really, what made you so bitter?

I just like to trigger

It's a video game, if it's aesthetically pleasing then it's fine. Realism is irrelevant.

Being 16 is fun, i guess

Don't care either way. Make female characters that aren't shit first then then the problem will solve itself.

You can't have a characters with serious opinions, dreams, hopes, and aspirations that are deeper than a rain puddle and then have them wear a gold bikini.

My +2623 Dexterity thigh-high sexy high-heeled boots (of the Abyss) say otherwise.

It was fun, wish i was 14 years younger again. Now all i have for me in my life is getting virtual people upset.

more of this. goddamn too good. really nice face too

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>All this shit taste

Here's how it works.

-> If you make it so women can only wear slut armor, accept that your game is just a softcore porn game and don't pretend otherwise.
-> If the same piece of equipment looks drastically different on one sex than the other, you're being stupid. As much as I love Dragon's Dogma, it's guilty of this. I remember a chestpiece that was described as a solid sheet of metal (can't remember if it was counted as clothing or armor), and while it covered the entire torso (or at least the front) on men, it was literally just a metal bra when a woman equipped it. It's dumb.
-> If you have slut armor for both sexes and they look equally slutty, that's totally fine, as long as both sexes have about the same number of slut and non-slut options.
-> If your opinion is "girls are weak lol they can't fight they shouldn't wear armor at all", then you need to get over your own issues. If this is high fantasy where you have magical weapons and destinies and spells and monsters and all sorts of fantastical shit, then if "women being able to fight alongside men" is the unrealistic part that breaks your suspension of disbelief, that's entirely your own fault.
-> If you just want to see girls in sexy armor and don't care about any amount of practicality, go play the aforementioned softcore porn games (TERA is a good example) and leave your stupid opinions out of general high fantasy discussions.

>whine about realism when it comes to armor and weapons
>said realism suddenly goes out the window the second people wonder how "realistic'' having women on the battlefield is in the first place

Do you?

TYPE: A WOMAN are my favorite type of characters

>-> If you make it so women can only wear slut armor, accept that your game is just a softcore porn game and don't pretend otherwise.

Well the game in the OP is a full porn game, so no problem.
youtube.com/watch?v=e5YaXhnJTKk

The more exposed her titties are the stronger a fighter she is.
You've gotta be pretty confident in yourself to leave them hanging out unprotected frompaizuri

Funnily enough this same game also lets you go full slut

at first I thought it was art for XIV, but I guess not. Whats it for?

7th dragon VFD

wut gum.

Artstyle of the facial variety is familiar of this particular artpiece to the artist that draws those them hentai novelas.

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7th dragon. Artist is Miwa Shirou

There are multiple ways to read your post, and I'm not actually sure which one you're going for. Are you saying it's ridiculous to complain about armor/weapon impracticality since you're already being impractical by having women on the battlefield, or are you saying it's ridiculous to claim that the unrealisticness of having women on the battlefield somehow makes all armor/weapon practicality no longer matter?

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You are from now and forever my nigga.

perfect

>you're stupid if you don't agree with me

My my, this caliber of argumentation is way over most people's heads. We are honored to have a glimpse of your intellectual prowess.

> If you make it so women can only wear slut armor, accept that your game is just a softcore porn game and don't pretend otherwise.
body shaming, slut shaming, and bigotry in one line. The implication that having "softcore porn" is something shameful that one who fancies themselves an adult would feel the need to disguise or hide that fact.

>If your opinion is "girls are weak lol they can't fight they shouldn't wear armor at all", then you need to get over your own issues.
Issues like? Basic knowledge about biology and sexual dimorphism? Actually knowing biology would be enough to get you branded a heretic nowadays if you think about it, with all the billions of genders these crazies invent.

> If this is high fantasy where you have magical weapons and destinies and spells and monsters and all sorts of fantastical shit, then if "women being able to fight alongside men" is the unrealistic part that breaks your suspension of disbelief, that's entirely your own fault.
See, this is the problem with this type of argument. Eating your cake and then having it as well. Somehow. Enough fantasy that women can fight alongside men, but then enough realism that they need to be dressed in a way that suits your sensibilities. You can't have it both ways.

>If you have slut armor for both sexes and they look equally slutty, that's totally fine, as long as both sexes have about the same number of slut and non-slut options.

This is the only part of your text that makes sense. Equal "fanservice" for both genders.

Basically:

Females shouldn't be front-line warriors or in the battlefield at all desu.

Let them be assassins disguised as whores for all I care though.

STRONG WOMAN, STRONG BREASTS

This artist is fantastic

The former.
Only a retard would bitch and moan about muh realism and how unrealistic this and that is yadda yadda high horse... and then do a hard 180 and go full drooling fantasy retard by putting women on the battlefield, ignoring the concept they were just tooting their horn about.

Is there a game that, without modding, lets you have both? A style button so that you switch between normal and slutplate for the same armor.

where do i stand?

it's a non issue

Not him but.

>The implication that having "softcore porn" is something shameful that one who fancies themselves an adult would feel the need to disguise or hide that fact.
He isn't saying that. There's no problem with softcore porn in your videogames, if you like it go for it. The problem is when people try to pretend its literally anything else. All the "but actually it makes sense because..." and "It doesn't matter because it's fantasy" posts are just trying to obfuscate the fact that it's stupid porn. Again, nothing wrong with stupid porn but don't pretend its something it's not.

>Issues like? Basic knowledge about biology and sexual dimorphism?
Back to /r9k/. If you know what the bell curve is, you already know why a woman might be in combat.

>Enough fantasy that women can fight alongside men, but then enough realism that they need to be dressed in a way that suits your sensibilities.
Who says you can't have both? Suspension of disbelief is not an "either or" proposition. You can easily have a universe where some things are fantastical while other things are sensible by irl standards. These things aren't mutually exclusive.

Where's this from?

Removing all male characters would solve discrepancy problems

For me it depends on the class. Rouges and mages are fine, and I'll even let a barbarian/zerker slip. But if you put a knight in a sling bikini, I'll hate it.

More big buff bombshells in chain mail bikinis and/or animal skins pls.

My primal lust for snu-snu and total lack of desire to ever advocate for unnecessary realism and practicality in vidya armor design demands it.

No games because assets dont grow on trees.

How about some oni?

>Not posting the delicious brown version
Bruh

It's not an issue to begin with.

So I stand nowhere.

This is the only relevant vidya pic I have on the matter

If you stand nowhere then you're not really standing are you.

My nigga.

Big target who doesn't wear armour is my fetish.

>issue

sure pal.

Anythings fine with me. Just no high heels. That's just dumb.

Artist's vision trumps all.

> The problem is when people try to pretend its literally anything else. All the "but actually it makes sense because..."
You mean like picrelated?

>"It doesn't matter because it's fantasy"
Same with Batman dodging 5 guys emptying their rifles into him. This is the level of suspension of disbelief needed to enjoy this type of stuff. If you don't have it, most media we have today cannot be enjoyed at all.

> the fact that it's stupid porn.Again, nothing wrong with stupid porn but don't pretend its something it's not.
Nobody is pretending. But many do not enjoy the shaming language constantly employed especially since most of these people are hypocrites with terabites of porn at home, while they bitch about others liking cleavage and some booty shots in their games.

>Back to /r9k/. If you know what the bell curve is, you already know why a woman might be in combat.
In combat but not in the front lines where "armor" might be needed. You sound like you think that i'm one of those "pregnant, barefoot and chained to the sink" types. I'm not.

>Who says you can't have both? Suspension of disbelief is not an "either or" proposition. You can easily have a universe where some things are fantastical while other things are sensible by irl standards. These things aren't mutually exclusive.

True, which is why this whole discussion boils down to subjectivity and peronal taste. The problems arise when some people feel the need to qualify other people's tastes with "stupid" in order to virtue signal, which is something only people who have nothing else to offer usually do.

I only get annoyed if the armor in question isn't relate-able to the character. A girl from a might makes right society with skimpy armor sort of makes since, because she's using her physical body to overpower you. But a girl from a feudal or very orderly society wearing skimpy armor doesn't make sense. Feminized armor is perfectly fine though ( such as boob plate and skirts with metal plates on the side).

I mean, it's there game anyway but I would like some consistency.

This too. Unless the character in question is a mage or a seductress please no high heels

This. Internal inconsistency is bad and fucks with my head.

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>softcore porn
Stopped reading there. You have no idea what "softcore porn" means, you fucking retard.

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>sharty

I sort of agree. My feeling is specifically that if women have boobplates or crazy outfits, Men should have crazy outfits too. Think Shao Kan with leather straps, shoulder pads and bannana hammock.

I'm OK with mixed crazy and practical in the same game too, as long as it fits the internal logic and theme or the character or the game.

Armor dress > Bodysuit > boob armor > chainmail bikini = normal armor > spike shit

>You can easily have a universe where some things are fantastical while other things are sensible by irl standards

Not him either, but that is a two way street my friend.

Just like your example of fantastical stuff with some real-life sensibilities thrown in, you can also have the oposite as well and have real-life medieval stuff with chain-mail bikinis thrown in.

Simply put? this is not an issue and the only ones who make it one are tryhards who have to have their fun 100% exactly the way they want it

>Game tries to be realistic
>Skimpy armors
I have a problem with that.
>Game throws realism out of the window
>Skimpy armors
I'm fine with that.

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I think you all are actually missing something when you discuss about why women in combat is ok but women with bras in combat isn't

Let's say that women combatting is unrealistic, I'm not actually gonna discuse wether it is or not, just gonna wrtie my post based on that idea.

So, you commit willing suspension of disbelief to accept women in combat

>Then why don't you do the same to accept that they wear bikins?
Easy, let's make a comparison to understand.

>Woman in combat. Armor that protects her body in such combat
You are supending your disbelief just for the gender of a combatant
>Woman in combat. Wearing a bikini so any hit would insta-kill
You are suspending your disbelief for both the idea of a woman combatant AND the idea that said combatant is not wearing any protection at all

This

>Same with Batman dodging 5 guys emptying their rifles into him.
But most of the time, this is actually explained in the story. Batman is a trained ninja who uses illusions and tricks against his enemies so it makes sense to see him seemingly dodge bullets. Yeah this explenation is bullshit but if it makes sense within the batman universe, it's perfectly valid. If there wasn't an explanation for this it would be equally as stupid as most bikini armour.

>especially since most of these people are hypocrites with terabites of porn at home, while they bitch about others liking cleavage and some booty shots in their games.
While these types of people are usually horrible, I do understand their reasoning. It's about the disconnect between pure porn and gaming. Porn for itself works because it appeals to a specific desire but when put in the context of a game, it falls flat because it clashes with the appeal of a game. I don't agree completely with this but I most certainly understand the reasoning.

>You sound like you think that i'm one of those "pregnant, barefoot and chained to the sink" types. I'm not.
Sorry. Kind of a knee jerk reaction.

>The problems arise when some people feel the need to qualify other people's tastes with "stupid" in order to virtue signal
I think it's alright to criticize things. I admit, bikini armour often rubs me the wrong way but I've some times come across scantly clad women in games I have no problem with. That's usually why I personally criticise bikini armour because I think there's nothing inherently wrong with it but it's often misused.

>another of fates not-seibahs

Into the garbage it goes.

whats going on this post?

Doesnt matter as long as the gameplay is good. Male weapons and armors are unrealistic in 99,99% of the games too.

There is no issue. Artists will create whatever they want.

VNs are not videogames, no matter how big of a weeb you are.

Sex sells and I'm buying.
If this means only straight men and lesbians buy video games so be it. Faggots and straight women are lame anyways.

I think both slut armor and realistic armor is fine as long as it has a valid plot reason.
>country A slut armor is a result of magical warfare making heavy armor obsolete
>country B realistic armor is a result of superior dwarven craftsmanship

In most games you have to suspend your disbelief when the 1 inch of steel armor is able to stop the train size dick of a dragon hitting you at 100 miles per hour in the first place

All armor is male, because armor is tough, and being tough is manly, so every piece of armor is a man.
Even a codpiece, because when the armorsmith makes it he chants "nohomo, nohomo, nohomo."

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They have their moments when it's appropriate and shouldn't be one thing across the board. Depending on the setting, race/species, class, culture, and character, that's when it feels right. Like drows can get away with dressing in bikini armor, but I'd like to see a female Paladin fully plated.

And that's why elves are sluts

> picrelated
But pic related does not really defend the armored bikini, even if it tries.
If just discredits all armor equally.

a frog is shitting
I have a huge collection of them but I won't post it because no spam

Yeah, there's that too, but I didn't wanna get into the whole issue of inmersion because it's really a very personal and complicated issue

>Male weapons and armors are unrealistic in 99,99% of the games too.
There are still degrees of challenging supension of disbelief.
Some guy with spikes and hooks everywhere, but a complete suit of armor underneath, sure.
Some guyette with spiky pauldrons, boobwindow, exposed stomach and thighs, yeah, not so much.

As long as it is well designed i dont care.

I hate boob plate, but that's just because I think it looks stupid and impractical, rather than sexy.

If it's a setting where impractical armor makes sense, where everyone has superpowers or armor is useless anyway, I'm neutral to it. But if it's some sci-fi or fantasy setting where the men are all decked out in plate or cool cloaks and tunics but the women are in bikinis it irritates me to no end.

>I'd like to see a female Paladin fully plated.
That means you're gay.

I think as long as there's some grounding then immersion isn't(shouldn't be) that big of a deal. Then again, the next question is what kind and of what length do people find "grounding" acceptable

anything is fine as long as it fits the setting and anime games dont really care about their settings anyways.

Boob supporter.

I don't like bikini armor, but only because a hard metal bra isn't very sexy to me. Various other forms of excessively revealing armor are A-OK.

As long as it isnt just plain as fuck plated bikini DC Amazon, im fine with it.

best fantasy is barbarian fantasy where no one wear clothes

A thing i never understood is why they have steel bikinis instead of normal bikinis if they don't need armor in the first place

Lets be honest here.
You could have a setting where people have skin tougher than any armor and could punch holes in mountains, even then, people will argue the armors are not realistic, chainmail bikini are retarded and they will be better in full armorlike pretty much 99% of the JRPGs

its fine unless it has high heels

Let's be real here, it's whatever you find sexy.

This is the kind of stuff that makes my cock hard.

You're weird

I disagree with this. It's fine to mix and match, it's the tone of the game that's the issue. If it's a bleak and dreary medieval setting, sexy armor might not be appropriate, but if it's a goofy light-hearted fantasy setting, go nuts.

Of course it doesn't look sexy to you, because you're either a low test beta permavirgin or a jealous legbeard cat lady.

Beauty is not subjective.

Eww, boob-overalls.

>he gets of to muslims

>magic makes elves sluts

Magic only enhances their innate trollop-y ways.

An elf could be wearing 700 layers of heavy plate with giant grimdark pauldrons and still figure out how to fucked in the mating press position with all of it on.

Ease off the projection there, Shirou

only metal can hold strong enough enchantments

Poor orc-chan, being used as a flesh dildo by those elf whores.

You're weird.

Not really, they wear the equivalent of trash bags over their bodies. If it was form fitting however.

I try on the sluttiest armor in MMOs and secretly want to wear it, but I wear normal outfits around my raid group and friends.

stay beta.

>Yeah this explenation is bullshit but if it makes sense within the batman universe, it's perfectly valid.
"She's using magical enchantments that repel attacks and she's really the best soldier we have."
"Her sword mastery allows her to deflect all attacks."
"Insert other fantasy explanations here."

>It's about the disconnect between pure porn and gaming.
Games are a medium, porn is content.

>Porn for itself works because it appeals to a specific desire but when put in the context of a game, it falls flat because it clashes with the appeal of a game.

The appeal of a game is subjective. A creator can only create something and then let others interpret it. Because of this, and the fact that no two people are alike, it is impossible to predict what others may or may not find appealing with any piece of art.
As you've stated earlier, skimpy armor is something that, contrary to some peoples opinions, is considered porn or at least something "deviant". It's all subjective. It either falls flat or it doesn't depending on the market, which should be the final judge.

>Sorry. Kind of a knee jerk reaction.
I don't have a problem with women barely being distinguishable from their male peers in full armor from head to toe. My problem is with people who have that in games already, and then turn around and shit on others who enjoy women standing near their male peers but in bikini "armor". Like who cares? The women still kick ass, they just look gorgeous while doing it, instead of looking like men.

> I think there's nothing inherently wrong with it but it's often misused.

It's all subjective except when it's snowing outside, unless "magic", or "fantasy". I think it's just deeply ingrained societal conditioning.

That looks awfull to be honest, and im a permavirgin fapper-professional.

>He thinks it's possible for breasts to be sucked into the clothing like how everybody draws Samus' boobs in art

Why is Kamidori so great?

elfs are the worse

That's just your opinion senpai, looks hot to me.

men = fully covered
women = fully covered without helmet (hoods are okay tho)
dark souls does this perfectly

You mean like the image right there i replied to? The boob accentuation looks silly for the material shes wearing.

Sexy skimpy armor is fine
Practical proper armor is fine
Boob plate pisses me off since it's trying to be practical but it only serves to direct a potential spear or such directly to her center rather than deflecting it outwards.

Fucking Japan and their obsession with defiling women with BBM and monsters and what have you. I swear to Jesus there's like 6 doujins featuring elves that isn't rape or BBM.

I mean, the rest looks great and atractive, but the boob bags are a little too screamy.

>it's trying to be practical
'no'

You know the orc is the victim in that particular work right?

to which category this appeals?

Removing all females characters is the better choice. Their armor can stay though, it looks infinitely better on guys anyway.

Slut armor is cool and real armor is cool

nah

I thought it was the daughter?

ok, I agree it certainly isn't a direct effort to be practical, wrong wording there.
Correct it please.

That's fucking retarded. If you're going to do the no helmet thing for girls only you might as well just give them lewd options.

Depends on the character, if their personality is slutty then slut armor suits her fine. If her personality is of a shield maiden, then the character would be wearing the appropriate armor.

>men = fully covered
I bet you kiss girls, faggot.

The " i dont understand what proper armor is but i'll pretend that i do by mimicking the elements poorly" kind.

Bikini armors are simply a no go for me because its lazy and uninspired.
Atleast try.

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Is slut armor even a big thing outside of shitty korean mmo?

I prefer stylized armor. It doesn't need to be realistic, cause frankly realistic armor is really fucking bland.

As for slut armor? I don't really care. Its the same as seeing a barbarian shirtless or something similar. So long as its visually interesting then it doesn't matter much.

not really, exagerated armor or just boobplate is much more prevalent.

Bethesda games mods.

The middle ground

This would save video games.

>uninspired
Lets not pretend that derivative fantasy armour looks inspired. Most of it is repeats of a repeats of overused elements and you get garbage that looks like derivetive WoW shit, or featureless garbage like Dragon Age 2 and 3.

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I hate overly large shoulder plates, particularly when the torso is slim.

Personally, I hate it when the armor designs are complete shit for the sake of looking slutty. I don't mind having a few slutty armors in a game, but don't JUST give me those. TERA was fucking ruined for me because there's not a single good looking piece of armor in that game because everything is just some variation of fetish gear.

God tier
>Men and women are nearly indistinguishable while wearing semi-realistic, low fantasy, or sci-fi armor

Literal instinct driven animal who should be put down for the betterment of humanity tier
>Men are all Beefsteak McHugeabs and the women are from Slut Planet wearing their standard ceremonial garb.

He pulls it off quite well.

That doesn't actually matter. If it's a blade capable of being deflected, slipping toward the middle isn't going to hurt anything.
The only practical concern would be if you fell forward onto your chest on the ground, though even that's not a huge deal.
The real problem with boobplate is just that it wasn't used in real life so when it appears in something that's otherwise going for a realistic historical look it sticks out as modern fantasy.

I don't care what they wear, as long as it can break and fall apart, and/or be exploded off their bodies.

>featureless garbage like Dragon Age 2 and 3
You forgot 1.

But I'm really gay for girls and I still want them to wear cool armor

Both were victims of the mother really, the orc just wanted a peaceful life but the mom insisted he fuck the shit out of her all the time.

And the daughter wanted the orc gone (for no reason) and the mom hatched a plan to force the poor orc to fuck her and then her natural whore instincts took over and now he has to please both of them.

Depends on the setting. If it's supposed to be serious, the armor should be realistic. If it's over-the-top wacky pulp fantasy, bring on the chain mail bikinis.

>"She's using magical enchantments that repel attacks and she's really the best soldier we have."
>"Her sword mastery allows her to deflect all attacks."
This is fine in fantasy but it's not an explanation for bikini armour. Why isn't she wearing normal clothes? Why can't she also wear armour on top of this? Why does the bikini have to be made of metal instead of regular clothes? Why do only the women do this? This is what I'm talking about when saying people pretending it's not porn because "it actually makes sense because..."
A better explanation would be:
>She's part of a religion who believe that their gods will protect them against harm in battle so she fights half naked.

>The appeal of a game is subjective. A creator can only create something and then let others interpret it.
This is bullshit. Yes, a lot of things are subjective but a creator can easily know what they're trying to achieve with their creation. Yeah, people have to interpret it but he can steer them towards a certain interpretation.

>women standing near their male peers but in bikini "armor". Like who cares? The women still kick ass
Because it looks stupid. Unless it's explained previously, there's no logical reason why women would wear bikini armour in battle while their male counterparts wear full plate. If it's established these women are just as good fighters as men, it makes no sense they should be dressed differently. If the men had been scantily clad as well, it wouldn't be a problem. pic related.

In games with armor/clothing damage I definitely prefer there to be lots to break off so you get that feeling of steady progression.

>dissing on based Frazetta

People who suck cock :
>(You)

Depends on the character to me. If the default armor for a class is slurry, that's fine if the character in that class would act that way, but if you have some shy or stuck up girl, it doesn't make sense

That too. Some of these devs haven't been to a museum ever, and the extent of their imagination doesn't seem to go past what they've seen in the DnD manual. Want to make something more original just add more spikes. Want to make a villain minion - cover them in mad-max leathers.

I'm going to need the name of doujin, please. Reverse Image Search isn't helping.

>Literal instinct driven animal who should be put down for the betterment of humanity tier

If you somehow manage to put this into law you solve the overpopulation problem but not much else.

Girls don't belong in armour.

I literally just found it in a few seconds. Tags exist for a reason. Use them.

Some people do try though, and i appreciate that.

Hmm, that is fair. I don't hate it aesthetically but I've seen it far too much in medieval fantasy where a good standard chestplate would do adequately.

>she's a strong independent woman but we need to show her face, so people know she's a pretty woman
>preferably with a cute,model face with long hair too

Nah fag don't be a fence-sitter, go all the way.

>being this low t

because normal clothes are for fags

>"directing to the center"
>implying that's a bad thing

Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. If blows really could be directed so easily without absorbing too much impact, men would have been wearing boobplates long before women.

80s fantasy != high fantasy, you fucking retard.

I think you need to repeat your high school physics class, user. There's a reason chest armor is always convex rather than concave.

>implying any titplates were designed with helping the wearer in mind and a properly thick area
I just think that overall it's more useful to have a bowl shaped plate instead
But then again, I'm not a mechanical engineer like that fellow so ignore me, I just wanted to reply to you.

Why not both?

fuck this is some good quality. whats it from?

>There's a reason chest armor is always convex rather than concave.

Yeah so they can fucking breathe and put it on. Astronaut suits are the same, don't tell me it's so they can deflect blows?

Even if you strike the boob parts, most of the impact will be absorbed exactly by that surface and very little force will be "redirected towards the middle of the chest". That's what I'm saying.

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They don't need it.

>Why isn't she wearing normal clothes? Why can't she also wear armour on top of this? Why does the bikini have to be made of metal instead of regular clothes? Why do only the women do this? This is what I'm talking about when saying people pretending it's not porn because "it actually makes sense because..."
I think all of these questions can be filed under "suspension of disbelief". It has something to do with the deification of the female form, picrelated.

>She's part of a religion who believe that their gods will protect them against harm in battle so she fights half naked.
That would make sense, although it would detract from the appeal of it. Exhibitionism also plays a role.

>This is bullshit. Yes, a lot of things are subjective but a creator can easily know what they're trying to achieve with their creation. Yeah, people have to interpret it but he can steer them towards a certain interpretation.
They can steer if they want. The point is that they can't know what other people will like about what they have created. When someone paints a naked woman and someone buys that painting, they could have bought it because there was a naked woman on it, or because they liked the technique that was used, or because they liked how her legs were painted because they are a leg fetishist.

It's true that it's not difficult to market a product to a certain audience, however, given that we're mostly talking about video games here, there is enough leeway to state that the complexity of the medium allows for people that otherwise wouldn't have been the target audience of the product to find enjoyable elements.

> If it's established these women are just as good fighters as men, it makes no sense they should be dressed differently.
If you think about this, they cannot be of equal skill if the men need protection and the women don't. It implies that the women are better since they don't need as much protection.

i...what. they literally DO wear boob plates, but its just ONE boob, so it dosent get deflected to the center

have you fucking looked at one

>tfw someone responds to your (you) before you finish typing and the (you) giver thinks you're a dick now
pls no

Yes I have. That thing on the chest is a separate, detachable piece.

No it's because an armours strength is in deflection. If you take a blow perpendicular to the surface it takes all of the energy behind it. If you deflect a blow then you absorb much, much less energy. Having a concave armour plate means that SOME part of the armour is going to take the blow head-on, and with boobplate its even worse since blows are directed towards the solar plexus (meaning any crushing/deformation of the plate can easily wind or crush a person's ribs).

Convex is superior in every way.

they are

>and with boobplate its even worse since blows are directed towards the solar plexus

And that could easily become an advantage since you could balance the material for the armor to accommodate that. (distributing more and better material just for the solar plexus)

That doesn't happen in real life though, because weapon strikes rarely have enough time to slide across the armor and 80% of the force is absorbed by the first impact. I may be a huge faggot for doing LARP but you're an even bigger faggot for talking about this shit despite having never worn armor in your life.

yeah, and underneath that issssss

FLAT

Dis guy gets it, thats why Boob-Cups are superior. Double the protection

>I think all of these questions can be filed under "suspension of disbelief"
Then your understanding of suspension of disbelief is very different from mine.

>although it would detract from the appeal of it.
Now I'm just completely lost. Are you saying that if it's illogical it makes it hotter for you? I'm honestly confused by this.

I really don't know what to say to that because everything you're saying is completely flying past me.

It doesn't happen in real life because people are smart and instead of using pointing stuff, the use hammers and maces to bend the armor in

>not liking the metal bra
Absolute shit taste

What point are you trying to make exactly?

True, thrusting weapons are for homos.

As long as they have a face-covering helmet or a significant portion of their face covered, I don't really care.

whoever made this low quality image must have never heard of firearms.
plate armor faded from popularity because the "more affordable" suits were easily pierced by bullets.
and if mobility was more important, why does every notable modern military employ some fashion of body armor (that weighs more than the average suit of plate)?

>autism

I know user, hes hating on the best chest piece in the game.
It even has good DEF stats.

Fantasy setting: designs are meant to look good, not be practical. Anything goes.

Realistic setting: obviously you should go for realism.

That's the long and short of it.

that your wrong, that astro suits are not curved, as stated here
>Astronaut suits are the same

did you really already forget what you said. its only been 20 minutes

>not using Saucenao

>softcore porn
How did so many puritans get on this board?

Have you never seen softcore porn?

Do you think any amount of ecchi or titillation is equivalent to pornography?

>Then your understanding of suspension of disbelief is very different from mine.
I don't think it is. The choices of fictional characters relating to their dress are of no importance to me. If i find it appealing, then i find it appealing. If not, then there are no problems there either.

If someone wants to go to war in nothing but a two piece, they are free to do so, although their choice may severely impact their chances of returning alive. This however doesn't matter in fiction. If i see a half naked woman/man going to battle in a video game, i won't pay it any mind, because it's fiction.

>Now I'm just completely lost. Are you saying that if it's illogical it makes it hotter for you? I'm honestly confused by this.
I'm saying that it's not normal for people to go around half naked. When you see someone in the tram naked, you don't just go "ah they forgot their clothes". There is intent behind their appearance. You don't just forget to wear clothes when going outside.

Same with skimpy armors. It goes against societal norms, and that's part of the appeal of it. It's something that can be explored in fiction, and yes, given it's relation to how male sexuality works, paired with the "illogical" bit you mentioned earlier, it becomes something appealing to some people. If it was a part of a religion and thus considered "normal" in their society, the effect would be lost, although it could be regained if the person in question would travel to lands where it is not part of the culture.
This is completely overshadowed by markers of physical attraction though.

>God Tier:
Full chainmail bodysuit under plate bikini

>High Tier:
Practical Armor
Practical Armor that shows some skin
Bikini Armor
Dress Armor

>Shit Tier:
Armor with capes

There is no issue.
The fuck are you talking about?

When you put a character in useless slut armor they cease to be a believeable character and just become fapbait put in some by some horny middleaged guy.

If you're okay with that then whatever. Personally I can't get into it, it makes the world feel fake and stupid like the characters can't think rationally.

I have a big thing for armor like this. Halo, TitanFall, Blizzard games, Destiny and For Honor have a similar design thought where despite being fully armored you can still tell the female physique. I dread the day when SJWs will address this issue since real military women wear the same shit as men and you can't tell easily.

Must be tough not being able to play videogames at all :^)

This should be good entertainment.

Explain.

The stick up your ass makes it hard to sit down for long periods of time?

You said at all, not long periods of time.

more like cowladin

yeah, im def using that as an RPG class now. no real differences from a paladin, just a way to tell that she has huge boobs AND is a paladin.

Oh my mistake then. Carry on.

not seeing the sequel, wherein the elf mother gets fucked by a roper and brings that home too

she might as well open a home for monsters at this point, which she would abuse and rape sadly

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Looks like the armory didnt have clothes in her size. Poor girl.

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I always like some skin showing but stuff like OP's pic is just so stupid I can't even get aroused by it.

I don't see any issue

>Putin vult

>Those metal lightning bolts
That's a bad design. Those could easily stab her pelvis, as they're not connected to anything and have sharp edges.
>The height of the heels
One of the worst parts of TERA was how every female costume had stupidly high heels. Heels are fine, but those abominations are not. If I wanted peg legged women, I'd view peg legged women.

The rest of the costume is fine for what it's from, but those two details ruin an otherwise fine piece.

That's from an eroge game

just as ridiculous as warrior women

The issue is that women are too ugly to pull that look off. Slutty armor should only be worn by male characters.

kinda bothers me, kinda pleases my dick
but I've chose the brawler class in Tera because it seemed cool. Really bothered me that only human females can be chosen and that despise beign a tank-ish character it has no badass medium/heavy armour, only mistress leather/armoured bikinis
tl;dr: I'm ok with it but it bothers me a little bit more

why are they eating sheep droppings

Whats wrong with it? Besides being a little too form fitting it looks fine

Shit, that promotional Brawler lady for some reason always make me hard

The lightning bolts are part of her body, I think. Like, they're scale-ish things.

I played Tera for five minutes, so I dunno.

Heels are for riding horses my man.

I'm going to answer this with another question: whatever happened to artistic license in vidya?

Why can't games have bikini armor women, men with 30 inch bicepts, giant robots that walk about on two feet, and other whacky stuff that doesn't make sense in real life if the designers want that? Most games aren't attempting to emulate real life nor are they trying to be realistic in most cases.

I prefer practical armor on everyone just for immersion's sake.
If you're going to go slutty anyways, then go 90% covered from head to toe except for a boob/cleavage window and upper thigh/ass with a thong. That's my jam right there.

Oh, that's because our actions are controlled by the entertainment media we consume, silly. So if I see a boob plate, I'll fucking rape a bitch.

I like girls
Better yet if they are semi naked

Industry got big enough to go mainstream and the parasites that up until that point were feeding on violent/sexist/badbadbad music/movies/art turned their attention towards video games.

TV saw that the pressure is off them and it's on the new kid on the block that potentially has the power to sink them just like TV did radio, and they jumped into the fray against games.

This, I just like women.
What armour they wear doesn't matter, as long as it fits their body type and looks visually okay.
It's a game for god's sake, it doesn't have to make sense and it's not like they're real people.

Personally I wouldn't even mind if they replaced armour with Maid outfits
Though I'll have none of that modified slut maid outfit shit.

Not him but are you 12?

Maids?

depends on the tone. There is nothing wrong with bikini armor (and men in metal thongs) if that's the tone of the game.

I prefer something more practical because I get a kick out of sensible armor layers, but I can go either way.

it's good when slut armor is just there to show the beauty of the womens bodies, rather than covering them up entirely

it's bad when it's entirely about sex appeal, and the game ends up looking like some cheap korean mmo because of it, but most devs are smart enough to not do that it seems

>front flap and thigh highs with no panties on
god tier.

Yes.
Maids are my second favourite clothing style and I adore Battlemaids in general.

It saddens me greatly that people only ever opt for the slutty maid outfits in games, and that no one ever bothers to animate clothing in the first place so all the good dresses are always complete shit.

Jealous roasties and sanctimonious normalfags started flooding into the hobby and spotted you being titillated and having fun with your amazing 2D girls.

is that even armor anymore?

How much rape is in this doujin?

Relies on world consistency. If all character's attires followed the Rule of Cool, I think it's okay, because sex appeal is empowering, wherever you are a guy or a gal, for example Bayonetta.

But if the world stablishes practical armor as the rule, and suddenly a character struts into battle in a catsuit, I see it as blantant sexualization for no reason and call it shit. Example going from ME1 to ME2 and made more shit in ME3

I'm fine with anything as long as the girl looks cute or sexy or cool.

I just enjoy boobs

how the fuck does that have good defense stats?!

I want to play as that girl in a video game

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Magic.

>issue

No rape and not a doujin.

>why from 17 century, after major breakthrough in metallurgy which made plate armor more affordable, warriors preferred to fight without armor at all?
Well you see, there was this other more major break through that started becoming quite effective and that was the FIREARM. Unless you're wearing a metric fucktonne of plate a .70 lead ball moving at around 900 feet per second is going to punch right through that plate.

It depends.

A setting that strives for "MUH GRIM DARK FANTASY MUH ANGST MUH GRITTY REALISM" doesn't lend itself well to boob plate.

Any other kind of fantasy its k though.

30 tons of plate isn't going to save you when the fucking dragon roasts you anyways, so who gives a shit. Call it magic and leave it at that.

good mini doujin. that artist draws nice tits but sometimes the content is a bit too much for me

Each piece she has on is garb from a dragon cult that imbued the wraps with the power of dragons. Funny enough he doesn't have the chest piece on.

>Where do you stand on the issue of female armors in video games?
I think this picture sums it up. Recently a school teacher got a lot of heat from everyone for being attractive in clothes that fit the school district dress code. No matter if you're in line with dress code policy or if it fits the games image, there will always be people who hate something that takes away the attention of men from them.

Haters gonna hate, white knights gonna white knight.

better enjoy it before they cover up all the women here.

If it gives AC, it's armor

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>he's never seen fine-ass re-enactors running around in full armor and heels
i pity you.

Yes you can.

Nope, none of that's how it works.

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Man, I never touched this series until Xseed localized the PSP remake and it was hype as fuck. I hear the orientation in the originals is complete ass but I'd love to see more games like Dark Revenant.

You need to be tactical to survive on the battlefield

fatties and sluts deserve to be shamed, get out tumblrwhale

that's 'cause you're a fag

gross

While I approve of that outfit, I still think it's stupid.

Nope, high heels only.

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It's not stupid
YOU'RE STUPID

I want to ride her, if you know what I mean.

No you.

games should be designed to please ME the consumer

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you shitting me, that cant be real.

Slavity Slav

wait, she isn't the lady on the right
because FUCK do i want to be raped by a female teacher not against my will

When are we going to get operator girls doing operator things for real?

>i want to be raped by a female teacher not against my will
>willingly to get raped
>consensual rape
you are a fucking moron, but yeah, i want her to teach me, teach me really good.

Now you're getting it.
Though everything you've posted has been great too.

men love tittys
real women who have big tits have them saggy and veiny
anime women and 2d woman in general have perfect bubble tittys that are filled with milk even though they are not pregnant and jiggle like literal jello shots
men also love muscle guys in heroic situations
fit guys you know
exercised for like 15 years and had a perfect diet and has a big cock and manly personality and fights aliens in his muscle man space marine armor and is also a charmer for the ladies and the dude can take big punches and get cool scars and drives nice cars and fights the police
in general, one can say

little boys playing games don't go outside, expectations are out of hand so might as well cater to them by designing solid muscle armor for men and teeny weeny tit bikinies for women

I'm not going to flip my tit at obvious fanservice games like DoA or that scarlet blade mmo or the like, I just don't bother with them because they don't appeal to me, but beyond that in other games prefer the armor look pretty realistic. I'm also not going to flip out if a lightly armored fighter, like a ranger, has more skintight leather shit, as long as their overall outfit makes sense for someone spending time outside.

Games where women look vastly less armored than men despite wearing the same equpiment, like Dragon's Dogma or the less fanservice oriented MMOs like GW2 annoy me. Boobplate can go fuck itself.

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>women never fought on battlefields

Not convinced.

All conflicts commonly portrayed in media as men should be changed to include women and black people to suit my views.

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>operator
>freaking out over a frog

get this fake shit outta here

Leeches are fucking nasty though

>a handful of examples

No, you don't get it, the concept of females as regulars in any levied or standing army is fantasy,

I think we're supposed to believe that in cyber space the protective aura that women get in real life is amplified by magic in video games so they can wear labia tape and nipple tassels as armor because those are magic.

Like you know how men can't hit women in real life unless "they deserve it" or whatever pussy excuse

2D men have to hit women because it's a video game so the magic that draws danger to those few inches of magic metal nipple tassels and pussy tape with Japanese symbols on it will protect them and make things fair.

t. someone who has played video games

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Not if you're a true tomboy (or outdoor kid in general) who spent their childhood playing in the woods. pulling off leeches, ticks, examining yourself for cuts, bruises, washing off the mud and dirt, etc. it was all part of the end of the day inventory.

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I'll let the game designers know you have a problem. I'm sure they'll change it to suit you.

2d food always looks so damn good
fuck dragons crown and its cooking mini game

At the very least they have good TD.
Nothing ruins a good girl like poor TD

As sexy as possible.

Female warriors aren't to be taken seriously, any serious game with female warrior is a joke.

nah

Unrelated to the thread but this picture literally has me crying from laughter

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Go watch Law and Order then.

I'm a simple man. I like things to make sense. Barbarians wearing a few skimpy animal skins, I can handle. Arena champions focusing on aesthetic over function, I'm cool with. Mages showing off their legs, or cleavage, kosher. Archers with light armor at best, showing off here and there, a-ok. In general though, I like them at least clothed enough so I'm not wondering "how is that comfortable", and armored enough for their fighting style/the way they've been trained. Like the character designers designed the characters around their personality/employment/environment first, then made alterations for fanservice (rather than the other way around, making everyone half nude titty monsters then adding vague signifiers about who they are and what they do. don't get me wrong, that's pretty cool when I'm rubbing it out, but it just looks silly in vidya).

I think the tellius Fire Emblem games are a great example of this. It is not 100% srs bsns fanservice free, but they add it in in a way that doesn't make the character's design look silly.

That's part of why it was so funny. I could mentally hear Ice-T saying all of those things.

Watch the gamer episode

I like armor that's sexually attractive without looking stupidly minimalistic, on males and females

Now this is armor

I LOVE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD

Nephenee was fucking perfect
Titania had amazing armor too

RIPPED STRAIGHT FROM THE HEADLINES

>I like things to make sense
ew go away

If you're complaining about bikini armor, you might as well complain about females in any combat role.

>they are
What?
What?!
WHAT?!

Considering what female ninjas did historically, this is quite the accurate get-up

here we see the prime example of blubber keeping a superior 2d female warm in the harshest of touhou winters

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That it's a non-issue. There's room for more than one kind of aesthetic when it comes to this shit, even if they are dumb.

Her tits bother the shit out of me.

Look like torpedoes that are being strangled.

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Shame this series will never get a proper English translation.

I like them but id also like to have the same amount of non revealing armors as well.

must suck not having a gf with huge firm tits

>he doesn't know

rattanmantrans

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nephie a best

What about like, Tales of Berseria?

the only reason to have girl fighters is so it's more convenient to include cute/sexy characters in action scenes, so there's literally nothing wrong with having them dress cute and sexy.

>girls being as physically strong as men
>making sense

-4 str
+4 wis

Don't give a shit as long as it fits the setting

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This desu.

A game like dragon's crown, which exploits every single high fantasy trope, would look weird without bikini armor.

In a serious, semi-realistic setting like dark souls lewd armor would compromise the atmosphere.

Why would they have more wis

They made croc shoes popular

don't give a shit as long as it gets my dick hard

my mom has big tits

Women being physically as competent as men doesn't mess with my suspension of disbelief as much as people going into battle half naked does.

pew pew pew!

Unimpeachable logic right here.

>issue
>in a videogame
kys

Maybe that'll change when you interact physically with a girl

what are some games where you can be an operator waifu with realistic operator gear?

I can deal with both.

I like slut armor.

But I like realistic armor too.

crocs are entirely the fault of males user. if you want to blame women for something, make it uggs.

What about ugly armor?

did you come up with that one while having passionate sex with your beautiful girlfriend you fucking faggot

There was a cod-clone a while ago with animu grills but i forget what it was called.

It makes me kek whenever games try to push women into modern warfare.

Armor in real life isn't cheap. No sane armorer is going to waste their time making armor that only females can wear. At best, they will go with a unisex design to lessen logistical clusterfuck. However, even that pisses off all the male that has to deal with bullshit done to armor made to fit a female.

Pic related. New US armor plate carrier made to fit females. However, it freaking sucks because it is supposed to carry a smaller armor plate and the fabric is thinner in many areas because females are not as large. No side plates, less neck protection, thinner shoulder straps. This proposed design made a lot of militaryfags mad. I can understand why though: How often does females even fight on the frontlines? Gimping the armor plate carrier for all the average grunt just to fulfill leftist agenda is bullshit.

>hot captain, would take orders from
Your'e saying this was made to fit females and then that it's gimped for the average soldier. There's only the one design?

They are not ordering them separately for females and males. Just order a bunch and throw them into the inventory. If you get issued a manlet's armor plate carrier when on duty, tough luck.

>backblast zone is close to a tree
Someone post it

When it comes to a standing army, getting a 1-size fits all kinda thing saves hella cash.
So yes there is only one design.
Additionally,
>rates are being removed from the navy
gg leftist.

no my girlfriend isn't beautiful she is average at best

Breeding stock! Being used to cum inside!

fucking gay I bet you kiss her on the lips too you disgusting creep

What game is this?

Are there height and weight requirements for this kind of thing, then? I can't imagine something that fits a guy like me, who is 5'4" and skinny, will fit some 6'2" brawny guy.

They'd have a kit to fit your size.
But the armour plates and their positioning will be generally the same as a female.

>-> If your opinion is "girls are weak lol they can't fight they shouldn't wear armor at all", then you need to get over your own issues. If this is high fantasy where you have magical weapons and destinies and spells and monsters and all sorts of fantastical shit, then if "women being able to fight alongside men" is the unrealistic part that breaks your suspension of disbelief, that's entirely your own fault.

to me, females being strong/etc is like dwarves being tall and beautiful, and elves being short and stout

Post your armories.

If it's a game based on realism, there shouldn't be a variation between male and female plate armor.
If it's not, it's personal preference. This isn't an issue.

There are strong women in real life, you doofus. A girl being into bodybuilding or other athleticism isn't the same as a fantasy creature going against what they're known to be like, unless you personally think of women as a fantasy race. That would say a lot more about you than anything else, though.

St. Joan of Arc is a hard ass. Kicked English ass up until she was nineteen.

I like practical armor a hell of a lot more than lewd armor, but I am also a retard who fucking loves battle dresses than any other type of armor ever.

muscle women are my fetish, but I still think of them as exception, far, far from being the rule

Know your place women, keep your naked men in your magazines and we'll keep our women in our games.

>there are some scarce examples of physycally apt women irl, therefore it's perfectly plausible to imagine that all of them could be depicted just like that in a fictional setting with any pretense of being realistic regarding our common knowledge about the sexes

I like the idea, but if the bottom of the dress or skirt is low enough to really inhibit movement, it would make me pretty upset. Not as upset as heel would, but still.

Probably because the (western) societal standard for women is not to be body builders. Men gain muscle mass easier because of testosterone, sure this means men are inherently stronger, but women can be just as strong provided they work harder.

Does your ass hurt after pulling all that shit out of it?

Is she wearing a dragon for armor?

I'm the opposite. I fucking love lewd armor, but I can also appreciate when armor is done sensibly.

That said, I'll happily agree that battle dresses are a very fair common ground between the two.

>women can be just as strong

you're shitting me right? women cannot lift at all unless they're on gear you dummy

>Dragons are easy to accept
>Wyverns are easy to accept
>Magic is easy to accept
>Orcs and shit is easy to accept
>Fucking robots is easy to accept
>A GIRL BEING STRONG? THE FUCK IS THIS FANTASTICAL BULLSHIT

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>women can be just as strong
No they can't. Female Olympic athletes aren't as strong as average guys. It isn't just muscle mass.

>Being this historically ignorant.

Joan of arc was a religious figurehead, she didn't fight or lead in battle.

>women can be just as strong provided they work harder.
Which is why elite female athletes are 30% weaker than male athletes, pound for pound right? I guess those female athletes just don't try hard enough.

That's exactly how it works user. People will accept fantastic elements in fantasy stories but when you get the mundane bits wrong you break their immersion.

Either this is bait, or you're trying really hard to get people to post muscle girls.

I wonder if the people ITT complain about black men not being portrayed as stronger and more physically able than white men, despite the statistical evidence to the contrary.

Olympic weightlifting and strongman champions are universally white or south asian.

Well this thread is probably gonna turn Cred Forums pretty quick, so I'm out, good thread guys.

Fuck the faggots that complain about "muh functional realism", I want them to slut it up to the fucking MAX

Bedsides, realism dictates no women on the battlefield and no fucking hocus pocus bullshit. why people here have a stick up their ass about pleasing designs is beyond me.

A girl being strong is absolutely fine. Hell, it's even kinda hot/exciting.
What's not fine is trying to push the bullshit of women being IN GENERAL naturaly as physically competent as men, which is blatantly wrong.

Orcs, dragons and whatever are fictional. You can come up with a race where the females are strong and dominant and that could work because they're not real, so it doesn't go aganist any expectations we might have about it.

But when your inspiration comes from something real and tangible, specificaly taking advantage of it being relatable to the audience, you can't bend the rules and the common knowledge we, the audience, have about that thing and expect for our disbelief to remain suspended. We know humans, we know the differences between the sexes in our own species.

It's not a crime or anything, but some people would find that flawed writting, and rightfully so.

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No, wrong. The strongest woman in the world is about the same as an average dudebro.

As someone who wants a big strong amazon to protect him, finding this out was crushing. However you know in a fantasy setting just say fuck it.

But realistically Women are physically weaker then men. Fedoralords in here can underestimate them all they want though, just because physically they are weaker doesn't mean they cant kill you considering adrenal strength.

Not to mention fighting technique is a factor.

Pure physical strength doesn't determine a fight.

And intelligence.

It isn't that hard to be lethal with a sharp piece of metal or a firearm desu. the only thing unrealistic about women in rank and file combat roles is if you're basing your setting whole-piece on one where women did not fight. I mean, when it comes to open warfare you can bet your ass that warlords of any flavor or era would be all for another hand with a weapon for their meat grinders, were it not for social stigma against it. will they be exactly as effective as men? In real life, the answer is no the majority of the time, but that doesn't mean that a woman with a giant pointy stick can't gut you all the same, and I don't see why it's so reality-shattering for some that one of the non-realistic concessions you add to your fantasy setting is "men and women have equal maximum physical potentials."

America is the only place to produce these giga niggas. They say it ISN'T because of slavery breeding but I don't know how else you can explain it. The black slaves of south America were very disposable so they're all skinny weak manlets

Women on average are much weaker than men, but the outliers are much stronger than the average man and would still likely beat the average man even if the average man was pumping as much roids as they are.

>Pure physical strength doesn't determine a fight.

This is correct. Reach, height, weight, speed, reaction time, hand eye coordination, bone thickness and density, grip strength, power to weight, pain tolerance and aggression are all as important as strength in a fight. Women are terrible at all of these things, which is why women are terrible at fighting compared to men.

compare that to football, basketball, (in a lot of cases) soccer, running events, etc.

>Women are terrible at all of these things

Relatively speaking, yes.

I'm just saying if some MMA chick decided to pick a fight with me, I'd be fucking wasted.

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trash it

It's my fetish

>compare that to football, basketball, (in a lot of cases) soccer, running events, etc.

Black men are good at running, they're not good at picking up heavy things. "Strength" about is picking up heavy things, running is not. Nice try though.

Same dude I'm fuckin 5'6 and have never fight a fight in my life. I'd be too busy nutting to fight back anyway.

There's more to a physically strong body than just pure lift strength user.

>There's more to being strong than using strong muscles to lift heavy objects.

This fucking guy, I swear.

Either way, speed and endurance are not part of strength.

Fighting (which is literally what the discussion is about you mong) isn't just a game of "who can lift the biggest sword", that's retarded. It's also about, as says, "Reach, height, weight, speed, reaction time, hand eye coordination, bone thickness and density, grip strength, power to weight, pain tolerance and aggression", a majority of which are huge factors in the sports black men dominate, especially when compared to straight powerlifting.

You're taking it to an extreme that nobody was talking about. An elite female boxer or kickboxer (women's mma is joke, fyi) will be able to beat up an untrained NEET surely, however we're talking about amazon warrior women going out and fighting da bad guys. That kind of woman is going to get smoked, because no amount of skill and training can make up for a woman's inherent physical disadvantages if her opposition is physically fit and has a basic understanding of whatever they're doing. This is why pro female athletes always get absolutely smoked by amateur males and/or schoolboy teams whenever they do friendlies in stuff like MA, fencing, football, tennis etc.

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That depends on how competent the bad guys, and how the woman goes about fighting them.

enjoy all types of female armor sexy, slutty, actual armor that covers only exception is that shit from GW2 and their fucking trench coats

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The original guy declared that black men are stronger than white men, so obviously he's suggesting that strength is pretty important. If we're talking about actual combat performance, then there's nothing to really compare it other than ring martial arts, since black guys rarely compete in medieval martial arts like HEMA, fencing, kendo or archery.
On that front, American blacks do pretty well at boxing and ok at MMA and kickboxing etc.
However, all the best heavyweight MMA fighters are white or south American, so I think it's pretty safe to say that white guys are the most capable ring MA fighters.

>That depends on how competent the bad guys, and how the woman goes about fighting them.

huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/05/25/matildas-beaten-7-0-by-newcastle-jets-under-15-boys-team/

I stand close to a wall so I can position the camera right up by the boob window while I masturbate.

and?

>issue
What issue?

right but if one of the women pretended to be some lose older slut into getting HS sports team trains run on them, then used the ensuing opportunity to poison them all, they wouldn't have won

Why not always just make the girls mages, witches, alchemists or any other class that isn't melee?

And this is a real world example of how big the physical disparity between women and even boys is. The women are elite professionals with world class coaching and they got absolutely massacred by children at a sport that combines three of the things that women are least-bad at: endurance, teamwork and running. No upper-body strength, no grip strength, no weight, height or reach advantage and they still got rekt by a bunch of kids.

Now extrapolate that to a scenario where weight, height and strength are very important and you'll see why female warrior women are a fantasy only concept.

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Obviously rigged. Nice try.

I think from an artistic standpoint it is completely fine for female armor to accentuate the female form and male armor to accentuate the male form.

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Depends on the game.

If the game has obvious "real-style" armor, then it should be that way the whole game.

If the game from the start already sells that armor makes no sense, then it just go have fun.

>women's anything
>world class anything.

top zozzle user. You can be the most popular woman's college team in the nation and you'll still get fewer resources than your school's mediocre water polo team.

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literally could not care less. sexualizing female armor isn't an important issue as to whether or not a game will be good.

because that's sexist muh soggy knees, user. women are just as large and strong and muscular as men who've been bred, fed and trained for physical labor and combat :^)

>real military women wear the same shit as men and you can't tell easily.

except for the fact that they're on average 6-8 inches shorter and have obvious feminine facial features and child-like stature compared to the men.

but having women in melee combat wearing full armor, slinging spells, fighting dragons, makes it all seem completely realistic again, amirite.

>men who've been bred, fed and trained for physical labor and combat

What? How many high fantasy games, especially Eastern ones, focus on those types of characters? The main character is usually fairly average, and a huge chunk of the power he gets is from equipment and some form of being the chosen one.

Magic users can wear whatever they want since armor serves little purpose to them.

Rogues and Ninjas need to dress light since they rely on speed not shielding.

Obviously Knights and Soldiers should be heavily armored so it doesn't make sense for them to be lightly clothed.

Anything else is just triggered criticism

>You can be the most popular woman's college team in the nation and you'll still get fewer resources than your school's mediocre water polo team.

That team are paid professionals with a pro coach and years of training and physical adaptation under their belts. They're also OFC champs.
The boys team are a bunch of kids who can't grow proper mustaches yet and go to school on weekdays.

If a men's amateur B or C team got beaten by that boys team they would collectively hang themselves out of shame, but apparently funding is the reason why women can't compete with children despite being world champions.

This guy gets it.

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>a large chunk of the power he gets is from magic and plot devices

the bottom line, to me, is that anyone who doesn't like that a game that relies so heavily on mysticism and heroism and obviously has very little to do with realism (read: 99.99% of games by the nature of their existence as an outlet of escapism) sexualizes female armor can fuck off and make their own games if they're so panty-bunched about it.

Women's professional sports players are payed absolute peanuts user, as are coaches, so that the vast majority cannot afford to focus entirely on it, and it's not different at the olympics level. I'm not saying funding is the reason they lost, but "elite professionals with world class coaching " is literally the opposite of true as they're rarely if ever payed enough to focus on the game full time and the coaching they get is almost universally male soccer rejects.

>Obviously Knights and Soldiers should be heavily armored so it doesn't make sense for them to be lightly clothed.

if you're going on what "makes sense" then women by and large shouldn't be in those kinds of infantry/heavy armor combat positions in the first place, and the ones who are in it definitely aren't going to be petite little tittymonsters who "magically" have the same stats and strength as a male warrior-caste.

when was the last time you saw a Brienne of Tarth type female warrior in any of your games, and why aren't you complaining about this fact?

and would you even care about the fact that they're female in the first place when they're the size and appearance of a male anyway?

except for the literal historical evidence to the contrary

On the contrary there is a large history of Women on the front lines that the west likes to ignore.

If your village or city-state is under attack, losing means rape and enslavement.

It was common in Japan for women to accompany their men into battles and female samurais are a thing.

something stylish but also reasonable within the bounds of the game?

If they want to be realistic there wouldn't even be women in combat at all

It's not a fucking issue

>Women's professional sports players are payed absolute peanuts user, as are coaches

Compared to children who are paid zero dollars to play, spend 35 hours a week at school and are coached by some guy who isn't good enough to qualify as a women's coach.
Like I said, if a bunch of B or C grade male amateurs with full time jobs and an unpaid coach lost by even one goal to an under 15's team they would all top themselves and their families too to make sure their genes were erased permanently.
But I guess when it comes to female athletes, no matter how many advantages they have as paid professionals, they're still being kept down by THE MAN.

>a large history of Women on the front lines
there is a small history of large women on the front lines, perhaps

and any history of women in combat is naturally made statistically insignificant by the history of men on the front lines. go figure.

>please read my wall of text that unrepentantly molests the historical record and then still can't prove that women ever served as regulars on medieval battlefields, instead of desperation cannon fodder in sieges and final stands.

And that is why nobody takes you people seriously.

I agree that men do most of the fighting, but it is possible for women to fill the positions you described.

The Soviet Union had female snipers and Onna-bugeisha are female samurais.

Besides as long as its not a documentary game like Company of Heroes or something there is no problem with a slight creative license.

If the game features Dragons and Elves then a strong female Knight is the least unbelievable thing.

Hey nigger learn to fucking read. I have multiple times said they didn't lose just because they got less funding; it's pretty clear there's a physical gap. I'm just refuting your retarded idea that what they get is anything approaching "elite" or "world class".

In fact, if you went and read the article instead of glancing at the headline like a brainded monkey, you would see that they had tied the same team 2-2 before. Which, while still showing that they're not anywhere close to equal competitors to men, shows a lot how much their quality can fluctuate because of the fact that they aren't payed enough to commit to keeping up with training full-time.

I'm just saying, if you're going to make a retardedly strong statement in the positive like "female warrior women are a fantasy only concept" then the least you could do is tweak it a bit so that you're not disproven by 5 seconds on google.

Israel has had mandatory female conscription since its independence.

>it is possible for women to fill the positions
the point is that they're exceptions to the rule. they aren't regulars, and they're definitely not dainty, pretty little tittymonsters. they're irrelevant to the argument of "sexy" armor in videogames which implies that the characters themselves are sexy to begin with, which leads down completely unrelated discussion paths of what makes a compelling or desirable character to different people, demographics of video games, and ultimately that people who don't like "sexy" characters or "sexy" armor should probably focus on discovering or creating content that suits them rather than complaining about the existence of content that wasn't made for them in the first place.

isreal also has the most military porn of pretty much any other nation. the vast majority of those women just dick around in training, take REMF jobs in peaceful areas and slut around taking nude pictures and sucking cocks for their term of service.

I lie on the floor and take creepshots desu.

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>IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.

Fuck off bottom feeder, there's no magical way to turn off criticism because "y-you're not the target audience!"

when did I say anything about turning off criticism? it's more the fact that contrarian "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE" fucktards like you who aggressively shitpost anything that triggers them shouldn't have any protections when level-headed people tell you to fuck off.

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