Fuck under tale

it's simple and slightly more challenging than mash a to win battle, which is fine by rpg standards

amazing music
youtube.com/watch?v=XoGa10vYnXI

>Few years
>Off was 07
04 was cave story and yume nikki so that was objectively the best. But 08 brought iji which is the only one that matters so I dunno.

Reminder that fucking Ao Oni is getting animated and that ib isn't.

wasn't it just translated a few years ago though?
nobody's french nigga

why do i want to lewd the buddy so goddamn much

because she's female sasuke

NO thats WRONG
buddy is NOT for sexual
yet

sweet image buff rando looks badass

Because more journalists talked about Undertale than Lisa even though Lisa is better. It's a bullshit world we live in.

why though
if only more youtubers played lisa

target age for most LPs is 8-15

yeah
it shows why he became the boss

Indie RPG's use to be pretty neat.

Ib was the first one I played, it was fun and creepy.
OFF was pretty good with its soundtrack and hand drawn style.
Space Funeral was hilarious while also having a pretty awesome soundtrack.
Shut up and Jam and Megaman Sprite comics where good wacky fun times.
LISA was really fantastic at its story and character moments, honestly surprising me that a indie rpg can actually be pretty dark.

Undertale was pretty great too... However thanks to its success, there is a fucking wave of shitty unoriginal indie rpgs being made which all just dont seem interesting at all. And for that I feel pretty shitty about how everyone is trying to make a quirky rpg maker game when.

Why do people compare Undertale and Lisa when they're nothing alike? Lisa came out years before Undertale so it's not like they were competing against eachother

there'll probably be a good game or two to come out of the undertale wave

they took the same influences in really different directions

Funny how many discussions there are seriously comparing Lisa and Undertale when they're different in nearly every facet.

Undertale was colorful and feel-good with some dark undertones. Lisa was disturbing and with a mix of dark humor that fades away for its unrepentantly bleak ending.

They're not even aiming at the same target.

that sucks man

>Literally willing to let a teenage girl be raped over and over to repopulate the human race (which is most likely already doom and arguably not worthy of redemption)
>best dad

yeah nah.

Baldy really wasnt that good of a father either but he tried his hardest and atleast felt sincere regret for the way he treated her.

Buddy is going to grow into a rude sulking piece of shit like her father and will only realize in her older dying days that she shouldn't have blown him off and treated him like shit in his final moments.

but the fact that one is held to such a high praised in terms of developing a game is shitty when the other is obscure as hell

it came out literally 9 months before undertale

I just wanted Rando and Buddy to be bros and finally break the cycle of abuse.

she gave him a hug
> A
> FUCKING
> HUG

And poor/middleclassfags in third world countries who can't afford to buy much games because they are expensive as fuck
t.middleclassfag in a third world country

but she's best for sexual now

shes just so mean to him
>and brad almost killed him

People forget undertale had 3x more funding than Lisa and a story the length of "The Joyful" the problem is more a less Undertale didn't involve anything explicit and the game was about as difficult as plucking a dandelion

I personally found Lisa to be great, I loved the combat system, the OST and the story was a lovely combination however to people who don't commonly play video games and happened to stumble upon Lisa I can see why they dislike it.

beating a game and not dropping it in rough parts makes you appreciate it more

I never got why people didnt compare OFF and Undertale, both have a level of 4th wall awareness, the true labs feel alot like fighting specters, having two characters who where established as friends be the one pass judgement on you at the end for you fucking everything up and both get pretty creepy by the end.

I wouldn't say it's too obscure. I mean, there is cross-over fanart between LISA and Undertale. It's getting some recognition out there, even if it's not on the gaming media.

there was a sans/the judge pic floating around when undertale first came out, they have the same role plot-wise

I learned about the game a week ago because some one uploaded a pic of an arm less dude saying lisa and i wanted a challenge
not feels

this dude will fuck you up if you sexual his daughter

but hes dead

ish

NINJA TEARS when?

Dingaling has established he can make good music and characters, I want my racist ninjas dammit!

then rando will kick your ass

the dead can't stop my dick
such is life as the master opportunist

>Almost no love for Space Funeral in this thread

...

I love Lisa, but it's not surprising that a game with harsh elements of rape and child abuse at the forefront is going to garner less mainstream appeal.

Plus, the general gameplay of the Lisa series wasn't exactly spectacular. It got the job done, but I wouldn't say it was the selling point.

Post those fucking OST

youtube.com/watch?v=aZuI3ZkCHfs

>finally get to the end of the painful
>finally realize Buzzo did nothing wrong
what a fucking wild ride

you really want to fight rando?

>Buzzo
>Nothing wrong

Explain

>nothing
ehhhhhhhhhhh no that's pretty wrong

he's just a HUGE cunt

Buzzo fucked up and he knew it himself when he was taking the Joy.

Can't go wrong with the classic.
youtube.com/watch?v=JXJwllEL7Sg

d e a d
rando may have done nothing wrong but that doesn't matter to my dick

>c-c-can I see the sun today dad.
>It's BRAD. CALL ME BRAD! Don't use that word. No you can't leave i have to protect you. I'll be back in 12 hours with another man for you to murder.

>took out his anger towards brad on brad's disciples
>joined up with some weird experiment thing just because he's angry or something
>decides that he made a mistake
>nothing wrong
no that's not how it works

Buzzo was crushing on Lisa, who killed herself due to Marty's sexual abuse, which Brad basically enabled by not stopping it

There's a line where a game tries so hard to be "out there" that they just end up looking like they're 2deep4u and Space Funeral is at the threshold of that. I guess it helps that its funny.

Buzzo was tragic in his own right, like nearly every character in the series, but he still became a twisted sadist on his path for revenge.

The dlc Lisa the Joyful gives more insight on Brad and Lisa's relationship

>dat percussion

I pretty much had the same feeling
>clingy gf says "play face suneral"
>look at it and think its some boring 2deep artisty game
>play it a year later
>"holy shit this is hilarious"

rule number 1 of drug pushing man, never take the fucking product.

It was pleasantly strange that the music was good. It was very short which can work, but it was also crazy easy. It might as well had been just a walking simulator because the combat was a cakewalk.

then there is the fact that she can kill you

"Let's go see your sister..."

youtube.com/watch?v=JzH4ENFmg70&list=PL73OXlIRDW5Jn1TGUWsq3m-DDh1yjLHut&index=22

FUCK ME IT STILL HURTS OH FUCK WHY.

Yeah but EB and M3 are better then all of them.

Mother 3 yes.

Earthbound was pretty shit.

I played Off but I got to the 3rd location and I just never "got" it. It was weird and felt wrong.

dummies posting music without posting dopest fucking boss music in game youtube.com/watch?v=2fA8OeBltZw

i'll just trick and lie to her like everyone else
i'll die but i'm taking her virginity to my grave

Is Yume Nikki worth it? I was always too lazy to find a proper download.

Anyone remember what music was playing when Brad meets his first Joy Mutant? Thought it was one of the more atmospheric parts of the game.

Please tell me there's more of this. I need this in my life.

them some dope beats

>this game has feels

Is Buzzo the canonically the strongest before he turns into a mutant?

never took joy
still turned
fuck my life

Love that glitch so much.

...

him, demon X, or mike

i was just watching him fk

...

>mfw Buddy showing up with a baby in the ending

Shit made me legit pissed that I never even touched the game again.

this entire scene removed any ill will I had towards Joyful.

b-but Brad didn't have the scar prior to the events of the game

Too many years of dosing by that point sadly.

Surprising that Brad managed to last as long as he did really.

maybe it's heaven

The track name alone is enough to get me sad.

>getting that ending
you weren't buddy enough

I don't usually get emotional over vidya, but this game really had me feeling like shit for ages after. Every day I'd just think about the game and feel really bad about it.

What gives?

why did brad turn into a joy god before he died/turned

you know what bugged me?
Dingadong fucked up Brad's "look at background" and "look at camera" sprites when he's mono-armed
his right arm is missing when looking foreground, left arm missing when looking background

you played a good video game

RPG maker is pretty limited user.

If you defeat buzzo he ends the world, So yeah i'd say strongest.

>mfw that part

no, Dingaling had ample opportunity to not fuck up, it's not a engine limitation in any way.

I love how DL programmed dialog for Vega for if Buddy is wearing a Joy mask, calling Rando out for hanging out with any of Buzzo's "sickos"

i was SO mad when that happened

Not that I know of I'm afraid.

Thought it was interesting/funny that it was a Cartoon Network storyboarder that made it though.

twitter.com/SamanthaCKing/status/696591870944673792

Does he? Never caught that.

That's because you're not supposed to have the mask at that point, it's impossible.

Holy shit thats pretty neat.

Also what the fuck is with DL's twitter icon.

is soup on?

Buzzo himself says "BRAD DID NOTHING WRONG I AM COMPLETELY TO BLAME FOR RUINING HIS LIFE AND YOURS HOLY SHIT LISSAAAA"
Dingaling basically made him drop the spaghetti, and take a 180 in character direction.

Ya'll telling me that none of you unlocked the True Ending?

youtube.com/watch?v=Js35aRJdw30

What are you talking about, both endings she conceives a baby.
The difference being that she turns into a mutant in one of them.

The broth is prepared, my child.

thats impossible
....right?

KOO

>Bucket deciding to bring his bother Pail
>That fucking Undertale music ruining it.

Should of played Band Call/Winner Winner instead.

It was the overdose that did it, he was fine before then, addicted but fine

It's fake and isn't pretending to be real. But lets be honest, 5 seconds after the video cuts out Brad would be sliding through piles of bodies destroying everything in his path regardless.

undertale had better gameplay

Yup.

Kinda wished they did more with it. There should of been enemies which let you play the Platform/Shield/Shump styled gameplay.

...

Shocklord hurts me the most.

I find that they are both good at what they do. They aren't really the same thing. Lisa's combat was more Earthbound style where as Undertale was more Bullet hell / mario rpg style. The combo dial in Lisa is fucking dope though.

All I got.

youtube.com/watch?v=vp_xm2B16tQ

man I'm a sucker for this shit

Undertale has a unique gameplay twist. Lisa is a regular JRPG which everyone's played a thousand times that relies on it's setting to make it stand out.

Plus normies don't like edgy shit.

Undertale is a happy story, bad things only happen if you're willing to grind for it. No one has to die or get hurt, and in the end everything can turn out great.

Lisa is a tale of suffering, pain and death are inevitable, and your choices make only a temporary difference. The further along you get in the game, the more atrocities you commit. There is no happy ending, no hope. It's easy to see why some would prefer Undertale.

Also there's a lot more character interaction in Undertale, there's a huge amount of dialogue for the main cast of characters, while in Lisa most characters only have a few lines of dialogue.

Like Lisa's way more, especially since they way it incorporated platforming. Felt so satisfying just maneuvering around the maps and trying not to fall to my death.

>He fights from his fucking Gallows
>filled with arrows
>and with a broken neck
Sindy could take on anyone in the fucking wasteland

...

except four pussies with bows

wasn't there an army of corpses around him?

Do you have any other info on unaccessible dialogue? Some lines for other characters when you have the Joy mask or something like that?

Doesn't Buddy tell Brad to fuck off as he dies/mutates alone and broken ? I don't remember her hugging him

I hated the game off the trailer but I decided to try and play the demo when I happened to be at a Best buy for shits and giggles.

The enemies being generic millenials that have no reason to fight you is boring. Each special attack having it's own minigame attached to it is interesting the first couple times around, but gets old REAL fast. Also your characters are about as bland and uninteresting as they look.

>while in Lisa most characters only have a few lines of dialogue.
That's one of my bigger nitpicks of Lisa the Painful. I think the writing is solid, but I would have loved more party member interactions of some kind.

Maybe fewer recruitable members, but more party reactions to what was going on?

you can hug him it's a choice

Cant wait for it to come out for all of Tumblr to praise it for being new and original when its the SAME FUCKING STORY AS MOTHER 1.

It's a choice you can make, but it's surely not the canon decision. Just the one that makes you feel better.
Yea I suppose, but that describes everywhere at this point in the game. Who knows why they are there.

>Felt so satisfying just maneuvering around the maps and trying not to fall to my death.
This is on me, but I died exploring more often than I should have navigating the first few areas.

Really grated on me when moving to the next screen was suddenly met with a sudden cliff.

Reminder that Dingaling said that Buddy would probably not hug Brad.

You can choose whether or not Buddy should hug Brad at the end of the game. In my first playthrough I did not hug Brad at that point control switched from Brad to Buddy and from her perspective, Brad made her life miserable by denying her the freedom she always wanted and murdering those who she loved.

I dunno, he sacrificed character interaction in exchange for your party being easily disposed of. Whether they leave on their own accord, they get kidnapped, or fucking murdered in a battle, I really liked that you never knew how long you'd have your party member for. Also leads to bitter moments like giving your arm up for a person and then them leaving your party right after.

>Brad made her life miserable by denying her the freedom she always wanted

Nigga what freedom could she possibly have in a post-apocalyptic world filled with only depraved men?

>but it's surely not the canon decision.
I would have thought it was canon before The Joyful simply because the unanswered Did I do the right thing? felt like a much stronger closing line to end things on.

Doesn't really fit with the bitter sociopath Buddy becomes in the DLC though.

Get a swole man and his ten-year old daughter to cosplay for proper size.

Apparently in the first release of the game, the first save crow is up on a ledge before a bottomless pit. Some people just walked off the cliff while still getting acquainted with the game and had to rewatch the unskippable intro and complained enough for Dingaling to change that.

We are talking about what decision buddy would have made. Her entire perspective on life is her captivity, she doesn't know what the world could be to her.

>bottomless pits everywhere
>the secret area is in a bottomless pit

they all wanted to rape her the second she got outside

I like the idea of random events happening at campfires, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't start save scumming when things like Russian Roulette took out the entire party that I had leveled up.

Off was alright, the forced puzzles were fucking stupid though

Does playing with single-use save locations change anything substantial? I really want to play/finish the game, but I got pretty chuffed after a death that lead to me having to re-do ~30 mins of content early on.

Buddy spent like the first decade of her life underground killing random perverts or being escorted by Brad. Brad did this out of guilt for failing to protect Lisa but Buddy didn't understand this and thought he was just controlling her life and became an edgelord because of this.

there's a secret ending

Painful has some more fights, unlocks a small area with some lore, and unlocks a secret ending. Also certain enemies can permakill your party members.
So yes, I recommend playing on Painful mode.

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it opens an extra area near the end and adds a little bit to the ending iirc

I wouldnt recommend it on a first playthough

Pain mode adds a few bosses and encounters and changes the ending scene
If you do pain mode, pop as much joy as you can because the pain ending overrides the joyless ending

>the secret area is in a bottomless pit
Oh yeah, I killed myself a few times looking for the fish people everyone was talking about before giving up.

Probably never would have found that without looking it up online.

I did it all for the nookie

It's not a matter of which game is better, its a matter of which game starts a fire and ends up attracting a sizeable fanbase.

Meaning you can have a good game, but it isn't going to guarantee you fame and glory.

Neither Undertale or Lisa are the best, Undertale is a much better game than LISA. Or at least, I couldn't enjoy LISA. Ugly and depressing as fuck. I know that's what its going for, but its too much for me.
Also this guy is right. Off is also a better game than LISA.

Just a fucking REMINDER

I mean, if your reading comprehension skills weren't complete shit then maybe you could have come up with a useful response. Yes they all wanted to rape her. What you just responded to was my opinion on the canon decision as to whether Buddy hugs Brad or not. This decision would be based on her limited perspective on the world regardless of what the reality of the bleak situation is, the situation you just described, which doesn't fucking matter to the conversation you idiot.
I played my second time through on pain mode and ended up sacrificing about 3-4 hours total to keep my party decent. Roulette sucked, then Birdy kept getting kidnapped and tiger would leave. Shit sucks, but creates a cool game atmosphere.

Don't forget
>secret area is in a bottomless pit that you have to get off the bike to fall in
>not finding the secret area means you miss out on 4 different party members, as well as 2 areas, and 2 great songs

Thanks, guys. I'll start it up again on EZ mode.

>too depressing
>but fine with OFF
uh huh

Is hating on Undertale for being more popular than Lisa really going to solve anything?

You can't forget the video man

youtube.com/watch?v=grbt_JytZSg

Apparently he's gotten chubby though.

>if you to collect things to defeat other thing
that's story is pretty much a generic RPG story, it didn't start at Mother

>Lisa is a worse person than Marty, Buzzo, and Dr. Yado because of what her suicide inadvertently led to
Lisa clearly had some of her own tragic psychological issues, but I can't say that I agree with dingaling on this one.

yeah he's also gotten a shitty haircut, seems like he spent all his swag making this game

Not that guy, but LISA is pretty bleak, which is why I love it.

I dont get why people bring up LISA and Undertale so much, both games have gone there course, Just wait for what Austin and Tobys next games and shut up already.

thats dope

No offense but this sounds like someone's first FL Studio track after following a couple of "how to make electro" tutorials.

Never forget. Gamedev, not even once.

Ding's one of those optimistic people that think life can be better if you just try to make it better
Kind of backwards when you consider LISA but I think it's kind of the central theme of the game really

probably literally exactly that since he made the soundtrack in a trial version of fruity loops

That's because it is

What is this, sword dancing?

oh 100%

He is self taught so you're probably not too far off. His newer stuff is a bit better at least.
youtube.com/watch?v=2GmZXasCoU0

I think Lisa made more of an emotional impact on me overall, but I left Undertale more emotionally satisfied than I did with The Joyful, so it kind of balances out.

Marty at least tries to redeem himself after being horribly fucked up. Can't say the same for Lisa who fucked up Buzzo in the first place.

Dingagling actually wanted optional quests with specific party member interactions but got worried about how it would affect the deadline

It's hard to redeem yourself when you're dead, user.

So what you're saying is that it felt Off

What makes Lisa the worst character is because all of this shit happened because Lisa killed herself.
selfish

She still could have done something or left something behind for Buzzo besides forcing him to mutilate her and stuff like that.

...

He better take his sweet fucking time and make his next game great. I want interaction and shit.

He had great tracks in Painful too though:
youtube.com/watch?v=dkwXKL0F9Fg

Austin seems like kind of a dick

What was his fucking problem?

I wasn't saying that Lisa's coping mechanisms were healthy, but she was a damaged product of her environment that was apparently a prisoner from birth.

Meanwhile Marty and Yado's characters were built around hurting loved ones for the sake of blatant cruelty and sexual gratification.

It definitely did, but Men's Hair Club was really old, it was one of the tracks for the Kickstarter. I just picked something from Joyful since that's his latest thing.

you can't spell autism without austin

Um

youtube.com/watch?v=S8oh_s6C4WU

>That reference to Anger in the bath house theme

That was some alright VA work.
Just might have to replay Lisa and Undertale again cause they're both great trips.
The Joyful was kinda shit/

IIRC he once said "John Cena is the Jesus Christ of Wrestling and should make off like him and die on a cross" in a stream

See

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>blaming a child for not having a healthy state of mind after her father brutally abused her since infancy

Yea, Undertale is a total trope-filled 'feel-good-trip'.
I mean you can just compare the endings and it's blatant.
I still teared up and 'Fuck Year'ed during the Pacifist finale.

Imagine all the anons in 2012 who downloaded Katawa Shoujo thinking they were only gonna fap.

>Dingaling's dad died
Shit, I didn't even know. It's interesting to see that he inspired LISA at the very least.

So what is the original image from? it looks gross as fuck.

>mfw that was also me in 2012

The Thing (2011)

It's p.shit to be honest.

Countless characters also go through shit, up to and including the apocalypse, and still end up alright because they persevere. Dingaling grew up in a household where that kind of thing was valued, where his dad worked his ass off until the day he died and never gave up on anything, no shit he wouldn't like a character whose solution to their problems (however bad those problems are) is suicide.

Boy this takes me back.

Still haven't played any route besides Hanako's.

Honestly, its unfair to say Lisa's the worst, everyone could of done better but they fucked up badly.
Marty is a mega fucking cunt for continuing his awful shit which caused the next term of events to happen, even if he did redeem himself, if you were in Brad shoe's would you give him another chance?
No one in that state would, your beyond repair.

Brad's by no means a role model but she got a pretty good deal considering that the alternative was "breeding sow".

And if he had sheltered her from the realities of the world they live in, no way would she have survived the events of The Joyful.

>mfw i missed out on this entire area because i played on hard mode my first playthrough

hard mode was a blast otherwise, though, added much more weight to every decision

>This will never be an ending if you get all bros and never take joy.
FUCK MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I LOVE SAPPY FUCKING BULLSHIT ENDINGS
IT'S WHY UNDERTALE WAS SO FUCKIN GOOD.

It's a scrapped animatronic from the prequel to The Thing, also titled The Thing because fuck you. All the animatronics were scrapped, big wigs said they looked shitty(they didn't) and that CG was the new, in thing so they slapped hokey looking CG on top of the animatrons and it looked fucking garish

>Countless characters also go through shit
There's going through shit, and there's being born into a world of nothing but suffering and never being allowed to look beyond it.

isn't brad just lisa's brother

big bro & lil sis

>missed out on this entire area because i played on hard mode
What? You can still go there on hard.

then why is he haunted if he was powerless to stop her suicide

Cole train baby?
I did the same thing but actually replayed through the other routes about a year back.
Emi's is really great.
I couldn't get thru Rin's cause Hisao is such a cock.

Someone should make a LISA edit of this.

She's not a ghost, he's just kinda schizophrenic and/or traumatized, ya knob.

You mean like Buddy, who can end up okay in spite of it all?

guilt is a hell of a drug

You should play LISA, it's a pretty good game.

Be sure to play The Joyful, too.

Because logic doesn't work when it comes to emotional trauma
Although the real question is why was Brad haunted when it seemed like he didn't even try to stop Lisa's abuse and cared more about his own

not haunted as in ghost
haunted by the past

Yeah, heard good things about Lilly's story as well. Should really give it another playthrough after all this time.

Undertale didn't has a shitty epilogue DLC.

Lilly's story is straight out of a feel-good romantic comedy. It's good comfy shit if you're looking for some healing.
Also maybe look into Hanako's alpha route.

Because some people are emotional fucks, and Lisa was manipulative as fuck?

>the fuck is off
holy shit how do you even be this much of a pleb

This does not compute.

Well, Weirder things have happened in wrestling story-lines.

>child turned drug abusing mass murdering sociopath
>okay

Buddy obviously had it rough, being locked up and forced to kill someone at a young age, but it was still a different type of abuse from what Lisa apparently went through on a daily basis.

It's going to be difficult to quantify a lifetime of suffering on either one's end though.

you are not wrong

Different user but how long is OFF?

It was me, Austin

AH SON OF OF BITCH

Because it has better gameplay

you don't even fight in undertale what?

...

Pretty short

Maybe 4 or 5 hours

On one hand, it's implied that Brad either abandoned Lisa to Marty's abuse, or simply didn't try to prevent her suicide.

Even worse than that, there are strong implications that Brad was coerced by Marty to either watch him rape Lisa, or take part in it. Which would help explain why Buzzo remembered Lisa hating Brad so much in the end.

>Earthbound was pretty shit.
>Earthbound was pretty shit.
>Earthbound was pretty shit.

What is it with these threads attracting so many people with shit taste?

I said gameplay, not fights

The more I see of this game, the more it looks like total dung.
But I'm a sucker for this kind of graphics and will probably end up playing it anyway.
I just hope it's at least hilariously bad...

It's not like Brad wasn't abused too though. Lisa's suicide is probably a trigger which made Brad want to get stronger/learn martial arts.

both games were made with heart and love and care

however, Lisa guy destroyed that notion by releasing the joyful, which is the worst money grab i think i've ever seen in the history of gaming.

>5 hours long
>4.5 of those hours are just incredibly long fights vs hp sponge enemies while you're just hitting attack over and over again, basically no thought involved in the fights whatsoever
>fucks up the story and makes you hate buddy
>adds nothing and is better off without

undertale guy could've clearly been raking in huge sums of cash with licensed products, etc etc and isn't doign it to my knowledge. better person better developer.

I've never played undertale but i play the dog song on youtube when i wnat to make myself smile

ruff ruff roff raruff rararauff, ruff, rufforoofruuf

Is there any story?

All I've seen is people making fun of the hipster character designs.

Earthbound was pretty meh. It was pretty much MOTHER 1 for the SNES. The story is pretty much absent all the game, The Difficulty is unfair at times and piss easy at other times, the Party members where pretty meh and the only other character of interest is Porky.

Quirky visuals on there own dont hold up a game, Thus why Mother 3 is better, it actually sets up the world your in, the characters you talk to and develops your motive for defeating the villain without having to of played MOTHER 1 or 2.

This game first came to my attention when I saw it at SXSW back in March

I thought it looked okay

toby is making shit loads of money while austin got thrown under the bus in his fame
> all that fanart is free advertising as well as Fuckinf pewds playing it on his channel

>however, Lisa guy destroyed that notion by releasing the joyful, which is the worst money grab i think i've ever seen in the history of gaming.
he was actually keeping his word and upheld a kickstarter goal which is more than can be said for Toby
that said, it's only more proof that kickstarter is cancer

whether he was upholding a goal or not it was a trash product that was not made with care and love and heart and it made me think less of him.

>money grab
He explained some story stuff, made some killer tunes, and tried to improve stuff like the battle system and adding running. I think the only reason the story is so shit in it is because he's an amateur so he's still bound to make mistakes. Besides, The Joyful was a part of the stretch goals on the kickstarter, it was going to be released no matter what.

>He's just sitting ever so slightly out if its reach
>At any moment, it could just lurch forward and destroy him

>It's not like Brad wasn't abused too though.
That's not the point. Lisa was a young girl with a damaged psychological state.

If Brad really did rape her or stood by and watched while it happened I doubt it would have helped her maintain a sympathetic perception of him.

>Besides, The Joyful was a part of the stretch goals on the kickstarter, it was going to be released no matter what.

explain why it costs money

because if you played it or watched it you know it is not worth even 5 dollars.

True. If we're talking strictly from her perspective, she would despise him for what he allowed to happen/took part in. Most likely why she hung herself outside their doorstep.
They both had hard lives.
Buddy did everything wrong though.

A smart business decision for him to get more money. No one called him out for it. I enjoyed both of them Even if I did pirate them.

It was worth five bucks

I wasn't a huge fan of The Joyful's direction either, but I wouldn't say there was zero care or effort put into it.

It just felt kind of bare bones compared to The Painful because it was more of a quick epilogue chapter than another full length story.

hence why it should've been free

i mean come on the fights in the joyful...
>attack
>attack
>attack
>attack
>healing item
>repeat

it honestly would've been better if he released it as a scripted story sequence with no gameplay.

Bullshit user, the music was worth those 5 bucks.

youtube.com/watch?v=gYtivcy5F0M

youtube.com/watch?v=DyCN7k_v5AM

Buddy can kind of blame the Joy and the crapsack world she lives in for her sudden turn to irrational violence, but it would have been nice if she had a more fleshed out character arc to work with, like Brad's steady descent into madness. And if she wasn't such a dick to Rando from the get-go.

Why are you shilling your channel, user?

I wish there were more games with minigame-based combat system
Does anyone know any game like that aside from undertal

Stop promoting your shitty LP's.

Glad I have both.

First post best post
I like them both but prefer Off

Only way I will believe this is if supernatural exists and Lisa continued to haunt Brad and Buzzo years after her death

The Sexy Boy ending is so good.

You only like it more because it's less popular you fucking contrarian bitches

I love these fucking air horns

Hot opinions there. Mother 3 is way too easy and has a cliche as fuck story.

LISA is a story about people never being able to understand each other due to their own suffering.

Undertale is about a beautiful snowflake being important to the fabric of society and the world.

Gee, I wonder why Millenials like Undertale.

I like it because there's more catharsis. Undertale is like a fairy tale, Lisa is a tragedy.
Different strokes for different folks, dude.

Someone please explain what Undertale is, and why it has such a massive following. My sister loves that shit.

Why is there no mod that makes undertale look good
It has the ugliest and least consistent artstyle for a game this popular
lots of mixels, mixed pseudo-nes and snes-like graphics, no shading in most places, godawful character sprites
seriously, if you'd want to see a game with equally bad graphics from the snes era you'd have to look for bootlegs

AFAIK it's a team of college students in the 90s looking into the disappearance of one of their friends.
Except their are modern day hipsters, the setting doesn't even look like the 90s and it's just full of random references, the combat is made of minigames like Shadow Hearts' judgment ring only 10x more annoying and animations are shite.

Undertale's a pretty good RPG, the battles have some bullet hell and SMT elements. The following is because of character designs that easily allow projection of autism, and the fact that the game is politically correct. Just pirate it and give it a shot, you might like it.

What the fuck was so good about the 90's?

When did the 90's become such a great time for all these hipsters?

The Batter did nothing wrong.

The old hipsters are aging out, now the hipsters that grew up in the 90's are attaining power and releasing things that they've been working on for the past few years.

A new generation's turn to feel nostalgic.

Power Rangers/Hercules/Xena/tv shows about people in funny suits beating each other up with made up martial arts
First instance of Japanese comics/cartoons becoming mainstream worldwide
SNES/Playstation and early 3D vidya
It's the sort of stuff that makes hipsters wet because they can put references everywhere and feel accomplished because "yeah man, I knew x before x was a thing" which is the hipster mantra.

Why didn't Brad and the others cut Buddy's hair and dress her up like a boy before she hit puberty?

She could have had freedom and as she got older she'd be less aggressively pissy about not being able to go outside (aside from teenage defiance anyway).

I mean, Buddy's probably the youngest in Olathe but there were still kids, like the orphans you set on fire. It wouldn't be that weird.

So that kid was brad and buddy's kid right?
Like Buddy used the trumpet to control brad?
Or did I miss a rape somewhere?

Nah, it's confirmed that the kid isn't Brads.

so where did I miss a rape?
or did one happen off screen?

You have a point, but I honestly doubt Brad was ever thinking of ways to help her actually find any sort of freedom at any point.

It's possible that at the start of Painful, one of Randos' friends raped Buddy.

He did make her that mask, remember?

youtube.com/watch?v=C79tsFhqiu8

Ah so it wasn't ever actually explained?
Just trying to find out if I missed something in the games

if you guys lose the hive mind, than actually a lot of indie games are good

Still seems counterproductive to not cut her hair.

But that scene was really short before he died
must've been the worlds fastest shot then
seems fitting though given his character

If you have good taste, most indie games are trash.

if we count games before that hipster culture, games like dwarf fortress, nethack, dcss are also indie and all of the klei entertainment games are indie FTL is indie, va-11 hall-A is indie, recettear is indie, banished is also indie, these are quite good for me

To add to this. Undertake has some great writing with a lot of moments of warmth, comedy and pathos. Some of the comedy relies on absurd subversion of expectations, which is refreshing.

>undertale
>lisa
>risk of rain
>shovel night
>cave story
>hotline miami
>subnautica
>nuclear throne
there are loads of good indie games.

Yeah, I see no reason why a bunch of people without the right skills and ideas being inspired to make little indie rpgs would make it impossible for good ones to be made in the future.

on my playtrought when i have to choose and i click hug she didn´t want it to do it. I though i was a powerful moment of sadness make you think you can control what Buddy wants to do and i love it. Then i saw what she can give you a hug and what i had was a bug.