If anything can be seen as art, then video games are art

Kevin Rodriguez
Kevin Rodriguez

If anything can be seen as art, then video games are art. Try to refute this.

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Tyler Rodriguez
Tyler Rodriguez

Art ain't real

Samuel Wright
Samuel Wright

not that tho, it's a visual novel.

Carson Thompson
Carson Thompson

video games ain't real

Aaron Reed
Aaron Reed

'can be' does not mean 'is'. there is a possibility that all of the vidya is not art. i couldn't refute 'If anything can be seen as art, then video games can be art', but this is easy mode

make new thread, this time with better text and this cute anime girl in minimalistic clothes, like before

Nathan Wright
Nathan Wright

All art is shit. Anything that tries to be anything more than entertainment is pretentious preachy shit, and the makers of it deserve torture and execution for being pretentious pseudointellectual pieces of shit.

Cooper Torres
Cooper Torres

Calm down

Brody Gutierrez
Brody Gutierrez

Who's to say visual novels aren't art?

Andrew Adams
Andrew Adams

i said it wasn't a game

Justin Gonzalez
Justin Gonzalez

If the artstyle is unique, but the gameplay is the same as any other common denominator game with no additions or clever mechanics, then it isn't art. It's still a product

Alexander Nelson
Alexander Nelson

Nobody likes cute anime girls

Samuel Perez
Samuel Perez

Any artistic expression is art. Every videogame, movie book tv show, play comedy routine, painting, sculpture is art. There is not some barrier to it. It is not a descriptor of quality. This whole debate is dumb

Christopher Morales
Christopher Morales

I came across the opinion that's every narrative is an art in a way. So videogames are art too by this logic.

Tyler Brown
Tyler Brown

this

Jonathan Walker
Jonathan Walker

Any creative work in any medium that is meant to be appreciated for its aesthetic or emotional value is art. This obviously includes video games.

b-but art can't be interactive
Yes it can. There are reports of interactive pieces of art from centuries ago, and it became particularly prominent in the last ~100 years beginning with modern art. Note that art doesn't have to be digital to be interactive, as much as physically walking through an installation can be interaction. That said, proliferation of digital art sure helped.

b-but video games are just entertainment
1) That's wrong and 2) Doesn't stop them from being art. A game like Mario that has no deep emotional value like what a book or movie may strive to be can cause the player to feel happiness, tension, etc.

b-but video games are a product
Just about every piece of art is a product. Music, movies, books, a number of classical paintings. But even being products they still require creative input.

b-but if video games are art then board games are too
Yes. This kind of interaction determined by preset rules that is exclusive to games is result of creative thinking, be it chess, Pong, Cathan or whatever AAA bullshit just came out. Of course the value these things have as a piece of art can vary greatly.

James Lopez
James Lopez

Everybody stop giving these shills atention. It's just a big push by, whoever it may benefit, to take away your hobby and shit on it. They want to push this so that shit like gone home, firewatch and other interactive bullshit can be pushed as 'games'.

Jose Long
Jose Long

Can VNs be art?

Anthony Jenkins
Anthony Jenkins

Why aren't these titles games?

Joseph Wood
Joseph Wood

Since they have a category of their own called 'choose your own adventure e-books'

Justin Thomas
Justin Thomas

Literally how is Gone Home or Firewatch an ebook or a choose your own adventure? Did you actually play either of those or are you just shitposting based on what you read on this board?

Oliver James
Oliver James

Everything you said is fucking wrong.

Julian Wilson
Julian Wilson

You've never played any real visual novels

Brandon Diaz
Brandon Diaz

No it's not.

Charles Brown
Charles Brown

Thanks for ending it based chiaki poster

Nathan Clark
Nathan Clark

Prove it.

Nathaniel Smith
Nathaniel Smith

Drawings are art
writting is art
movies are art

but if you put all of them together and make them interactive, they stop being art?
really activates the almonds

Chase Butler
Chase Butler

Ah i forgot these were the 2 with 0 gameplay elements. Which make them movies you can walk through. I've seen gone home played and played it for a bit, it's not a fucking vidya.

Cooper Collins
Cooper Collins

Don't tell me what to do. Any media that tries to tell someone what to do is preachy "art", and deserves said torture and execution.

Jaxon Powell
Jaxon Powell

Art is a diverse range of human activities in creating visual, auditory or performing artifacts (artworks), expressing the author's imaginative or technical skill, intended to be appreciated for their beauty or emotional power
Let’s do it this way: under this definition, how are video games NOT art?

Thomas Reed
Thomas Reed

Drawings are art
Some are but not all.
writting is art
Some are but not all.
movies are art
Some are but not all.

If I put Ode to Joy in a movie the movie doesn't become art just because it has music that is considered art in it. Just like a museum doesn't become art just because it houses the David.

Ryan Evans
Ryan Evans

By what said, they are. They all require creative and technical input.

How are they not art?

Jaxson Cooper
Jaxson Cooper

It doesn't have to be good to be art. Shitty art exists. It doesn't stop being art because you don't like it or because it was done by an amateur.

Christian Bell
Christian Bell

Everything is art.

Colton Campbell
Colton Campbell

Ok, calm down.

Christian White
Christian White

But that's not true. You're taking a 20th century redefinition of the word "art" as if it's gospel and completely dismissing hundreds of years worth of debate of what constitutes art.

Jace Williams
Jace Williams

No.

Aaron Taylor
Aaron Taylor

The mistake people make is thinking that all art is good art when that couldn't be further from the truth. A lot of art is hot garbage. Video games are absolutely art but that isn't saying much.

This whole "R VIDYA GAEM ART?!?" shit is such a non-debate, it's just arguing over semantics. Be more specific faggots. Then your discussion might have something resembling substance.

Nicholas King
Nicholas King

Enlighten me, user

Bentley Robinson
Bentley Robinson

Everything is art.

David Hughes
David Hughes

Read this as a primer
ludix.com/moriarty/apology.html

Daniel Collins
Daniel Collins

this post is art

Daniel Gray
Daniel Gray

The Sun isn't art.

Brody Watson
Brody Watson

Yes it is. Everything is art.

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