Would you like Undertale more if it looked better?

Colton Martin
Colton Martin

Would you like Undertale more if it looked better?

Brody Evans
Brody Evans

would you fuck off?

Adrian Green
Adrian Green

but that takes effort user

Owen Reed
Owen Reed

It would still be a short, easy, boring walking sim with no real gameplay.

Liam Miller
Liam Miller

That looks great but to be honest Undertale looks MOSTLY fine. I think the player sprite could be better and some of the obvious sprite rotation shit looks unprofessional but other than that it's fine.

Adrian Jones
Adrian Jones

No I would like it less. This looks like fucking shit.

Leo Thompson
Leo Thompson

This looks worse. The battles look fine, the overworld is the problem.

Samuel Rogers
Samuel Rogers

Walking sim with no gameplay

I love posts like this where its so blatantly obvious that the poster has no idea what they're talking about. Where the hatred and lies are so transparent that it becomes a comical farce.

David Wood
David Wood

I played it and beat the neutral route in 4 hours. It's a walking sim. You walk to the right and press X to skip through dialogue boxes that pop-up every 30 steps.

Julian Miller
Julian Miller

Okay, I'll bite.
What's "Real gameplay" gamerguy?

Dominic Miller
Dominic Miller

It has to account for a significant portion of the time taken to beat it. Undertale's combat is about 10% of its entire run time. If you took a typical playthrough and added up the length of every fight (not counting all the dialogue that interrupts battles) you'd end up with about 20 minutes.

Evan Hill
Evan Hill

all of the bosses alone take up almost 2 hours of time (1 hour 30 minutes for sake of your argument), random encounters not included in that
hurr 20 minutes
Cred Forums's retarded posts when it comes to this game are always amusing.

Isaac Myers
Isaac Myers

I don't think it would hurt but the game is fine as is.

Lincoln Bailey
Lincoln Bailey

I'd like it more if more than only two of the fights only in the murder run offered any challenge, and if the overworld weren't poorly designed with baby-tier puzzles and walk-to-the-right design.
As is, I think it's alright. With compelling gameplay it would be excellent.

Brody Sanders
Brody Sanders

if it were more original and didn't reek of laziness, that would have sold me on it without the upgraded graphics. seriously, when you have 45 fucking minutes worth of "references" in your game that is 8 hours and 10$, there's a point where it stops being references and ends up becoming you being a lazy fuck who can't be bothered to actually try and put effort in

Leo Peterson
Leo Peterson

What references do you mean? As far as I can tell most of the jokes and shit are original.

John Sanchez
John Sanchez

That looks worse though. Its actual style is great for its atmosphere.

Caleb Collins
Caleb Collins

No. The simplistic 8bit style was part of the charm.

Liam Adams
Liam Adams

I would like undertale more if the fans weren't cancer.

Logan Johnson
Logan Johnson

you mad, bitch? kill yourself

Zachary Walker
Zachary Walker

I think the original graphical style worked for Undertale.

Jaxson Howard
Jaxson Howard

Bingo, it was more immersive because of the style was the right kind of simple.

Josiah Torres
Josiah Torres

Here's a (You) for that bait user. The thought that there exist people retarded enough to skip through dialogue in an RPG entertained me somewhat.

Sebastian Adams
Sebastian Adams

Redpill me on this game, Cred Forums. I bought it but just look at pic related; it could not hold my attention for two hours, even. Should I give it another shot? Am I really missing something?

Easton Edwards
Easton Edwards

Are you honestly implying the game doesn't amount to "hold right to win"
Even for an indie it's insufferable

Easton Davis
Easton Davis

It's a good game.

Ryan Morgan
Ryan Morgan

Yes. But I like it a lot already, mind you.

Tyler Clark
Tyler Clark

undertale is like a modern ys, it's a polished turd where gameplay takes the sideline, yet it has charm.

Christian Edwards
Christian Edwards

Did you at least make it to the end of the Ruins? (the first boss fight)

Jeremiah Bell
Jeremiah Bell

Why is Papyrus so lewd?

Easton Diaz
Easton Diaz

I remember reaching some snow shit and talking to that insufferable skeleton and his brother.

Ian Green
Ian Green

Game comes out
Almost all of Cred Forums loves it
Game gets majorly popular from good word of mouth
Almost all of Cred Forums hates it

Like clockwork

Oliver Lopez
Oliver Lopez

A little more.
I'd like a lot more if it had actually good graphics, not just a little of colour.

Grayson Fisher
Grayson Fisher

The fact that the game uses the Papyrus font in an 8-bit fashion literally triggers me, I'm so fucking tired of teachers using the Papyrus font for everything

Jaxson Edwards
Jaxson Edwards

It's his name, user, what did you want? Garamond? Pallatino? Baskerville?

Jose Brown
Jose Brown

I just fucking hate that font. I see it almost on a daily basis, it's a running joke with my coworkers about how we should start sending out our e-mails in bolded Papyrus.

Blake Roberts
Blake Roberts

If you don't like it by that point you probably won't like the rest of it.
The game is supposed to hook you when it first gets you to care about and then fight Toriel

Ryder Howard
Ryder Howard

actually after considering shit like quality of music, gameplay and length, this analogy only really works on the first 2 games, felghana manages to be near flawless in most departments.

Samuel Hernandez
Samuel Hernandez

nigga just turn off the internet LMAAOO

Jace Jenkins
Jace Jenkins

People don't dislike Undertale because of the graphics

People dislike Undertale because of the virtue signaling and the cringey dating sim

Julian Butler
Julian Butler

This. Everyone was really excited digging the demo apart. Thread after thread of freak outs when someone pointed out that Flowey mentioned whether or not you killed Toriel in a previous demo playthrough.

Adrian Taylor
Adrian Taylor

because of the virtue signaling and the cringey dating sim
Nigga you don't even know what you're talking about.
I played the game before it got a massive obnoxious fanbase, it was alright, had some charming moments and good music.
The REAL reason people hate it is because its incredibly overrated and has one of the most annoying fanbases.
Quit being a fucking retard

Lincoln Allen
Lincoln Allen

The demo section may honestly be the best part of the game, to be fair.
It feels like it has the most work put into it and most attention to detail to me, anyway.

Cooper Miller
Cooper Miller

Fuck no because if it looked good it'd take a fucking decade to make and I'd be middle aged by the time I could play it.

There's a sweet spot of graphic standards any game should meet and the bare minimum is Cave Story. If your character's sprite has eyes, a mouth and hair and it's distinguishable it's good enough. If your character's entire face is made of four pixels, fuck off and try again. Undertale at least meets this requirement.

Justin Reed
Justin Reed

I've never played Undertale but that looks bad maybe even worse

Adam Jenkins
Adam Jenkins

No, as it would still have the gimmicky battle system which bored the ever loving fuck out of me.

Julian Evans
Julian Evans

Why are there multiple Undertale threads on Cred Forums every day? It isn't because of the anime reference, the threads were consistently popping up before that.

Cameron Ward
Cameron Ward

Not him but Mettaton is literally just an SMT joke, he's got Demi fiend markings all over his face and his name is just a few letters off "Metatron." I seriously legit tweeted Toby Fox about this when the game came out and he confirmed it.

That's not to agree or disagree with the guy you're replying to on a positive or negative level but the game is absolutely laden with references to JRPGs and anime.

Michael Mitchell
Michael Mitchell

Maybe Jokerman would have been better?

Levi Gonzalez
Levi Gonzalez

More like
game comes out
part of Cred Forums freaks out and won't shut up about it, spamming it
others see what the fuss is about
they find it's nothing special
It happened with FNAF too.

Ian Fisher
Ian Fisher

the virtue signaling
there's a lesbian couple in the game and it's kinda played as a joke
that's it

cringey dating sim
it's played as a joke on JRPGs and dating sims wherein they attempt to measure abstract concepts like arousal or love with elaborate meters all over the screen and it lasts five minutes
that's it

Jaxson Peterson
Jaxson Peterson

Male it 3x longer (partially through side quests with new minor characters and minigames) and I'd say it's perfect.

Luke Lewis
Luke Lewis

Heh, as if we were 10 years in the past? At least Jokerman has a use in fun, kid-friendly stuff.
Papyrus just looks bad and it doesn't help that it's everywhere

Sebastian Campbell
Sebastian Campbell

Nice falseflagging

Jacob Howard
Jacob Howard

You don't even know what falseflaggin means my dude, you're just kinda dropping random buzzwords in your posts.

Tyler Williams
Tyler Williams

There's a sweet spot of graphic standards any game should meet and the bare minimum is Cave Story. If your character's sprite has eyes, a mouth and hair and it's distinguishable it's good enough. If your character's entire face is made of four pixels, fuck off and try again. Undertale at least meets this requirement.
user, Symphony of the Night doesn't meet this arbitrary standard.
Are you really going to tell me that SotN looks like shit? They should have fucked off and tried again?

Christian Wilson
Christian Wilson

you a bad person for killing the innocent pixel people
no virtue signaling

it's played as a joke
still cringey

Kevin Morgan
Kevin Morgan

Mettatons face doesn't look a thing like DemiFiend

Metatron isn't from SMT

Henry Ross
Henry Ross

well there are exceptions, sotn and igas games are some.

Elijah Myers
Elijah Myers

no i would like exactly the same

Gavin Lee
Gavin Lee

alright buckle up retards here's the real facts

undertale is a good, funny, charming game, one of the more memorable of its year, but which gets soured by the end because toby's attachment to jrpg and anime tropes blinded him to his inability to write a compelling story
the story of undertale was never that interesting but it comes to a forefront at the end becomes this garbage mishmash of failed fourth wall breaks and insincere jabs at "feels" because who the LIVING fuck cared about the story, because story and characters are not the same thing
he successfully parodied and lampshaded japanese media tropes the entire time, yet at the end he completely gives in and just decides that everybody goes super saiyan and shoots rainbows out of their eyes

the game is at its best when it's moving a mile a minute with constant new gags and little subversive moments, and making you genuinely care about the characters enough to not want to murder them
it's at its worst when it's trying to be le deep indie art gaem

unfortunately the fanbase is composed of twelve year olds who can't distinguish the difference and assume it all to be good, therefore secure in their false notion that undertale is somehow deep and meaningful when it really never was and never should have tried to be

Jose Torres
Jose Torres

it's a story based game. Have you ever looked up the story driven, most often text based, adventure games of the old? This isn't exactly comparable to those but is nevertheless an example about video games not having to be entirely based on just gameplay. For me at least a good world with nice atmosphere is worth a lot because I can get much out of it outside of playing it too

Grayson Hall
Grayson Hall

better
doesn't understand that simplistic artstyle is a thing
fuck off op

Jacob Wright
Jacob Wright

the best part of the game is at the end

Logan Cook
Logan Cook

Literally almost identical face markings. A vertical line down from the eye with a few horizontal lines perpendicular which wrap to the side of the head and end under the hair. Again, I asked Toby Fox about this and he confirmed it. Don't be a contrarian.

Carter Hernandez
Carter Hernandez

it looks like inconsistent garbage
you could improve it while keeping the simple artstyle

Luis Bailey
Luis Bailey

because it has a giant autistic fanbase <3

Michael Bell
Michael Bell

so you don't know what virtue signalling is then. right.

Lincoln Lee
Lincoln Lee

The overworld sprites could be more polished and look better, but i think the battle sprites are one of the things so iconic about Undertale

Jason Miller
Jason Miller

mad

Samuel Long
Samuel Long

Demifiend has two lines going down in his face, not from the bottom of his eyes with two horizontal markings trailing off to the side.

Mettaton has one line going down from the bottom of his eye with horizontal markings. The line above his eye is a half circle.

Also why don't you just link your tweet so people can believe you?

Evan Gomez
Evan Gomez

Now to think of it.. There's plenty of it to be improved upon. It would be nice if they updated the visuals a bit and maybe even more content.

For the fucking autistic purists.. Have the "original" in the options menu. As popular as it is IDK why they haven't done this yet. I played and beaten the game already.

Lucas Watson
Lucas Watson

The game doesn't claim you're a bad person for killing pixels. In fact the game isn't even about pacifism.

The game is about pushing the idea that your actions have consequences. That's it. Toby didn't even want to encourage people to go down a particular route or do a particular thing in the game. Its why the game doesn't have achievements. It just wants you to understand that your actions have consequences. Even at the end of the game sans mentions that its understandable to fight in self defense should you only kill enemies if they get in your way in the game.

Caleb Kelly
Caleb Kelly

Probably. It's a very ugly game. I wouldn't mind if it just looked mediocre but it has noticeably bad sprites like Undyne's profile sprite and it's only made worse by the much better art in the shops drawing attention to how bad it looks otherwise.

Caleb Gomez
Caleb Gomez

I didn't really understand I could spare Toriel, but then read up on what happens if you restart. Well forgot to save and then restarted. Currently somewhere around dog knight couple. Long dog was cool though

Anthony Garcia
Anthony Garcia

Having a player portrait would ruin the 4th wall breaking feel of the game, due to the Chara / Frisk duality

Daniel Brooks
Daniel Brooks

1. You're seriously being a hair-splitting dumbass, I literally do not even need to argue this, any sane human being who compares this image with yours will see the similarity.

The entire game is a JRPG loveletter/parody and the guy's name is very nearly "Metatron," which if you really fucking think Toby Fox the JRPG fan knows more about hebrew mythology than he does about SMT, you're a dumbass.

2. The tweet is deleted at this point because I don't have that account anymore but if you think I'm weaving some grand narrative to convince the world that there's an SMT reference in Undertale you are, again, a dumbass.
It's not the focal point of my argument, I'm just using it to tell you that you could ask him yourself if you wanted to and he'd say the same shit.

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