Will Firefox ever be good?

>FF still can't fix rendering issues (see pic)
Why is FF still such a fucking piece of shit? It's buggy as hell, crashes, most insecure, still not sanboxed etc etc

What's their problem?

Works on my machine

Works on Debian GNU/Linux

Your shitty proprietary Windows 10 OS is to blame

like shit

>loonix screenshot
>blames windows

This is why nothing ever gets fixed with freetard software.

>Your shitty proprietary Windows 10 OS is to blame
I'm on Linux you motherfucking retard. That's just the skin.

Firefox sucks equally on all platforms.

Not to mention its a RAM whore

Literally unusable

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>Not to mention its a RAM whore
It's not that bad... Chrome(ium) is far worse. I have 16GB so I rarely hit the limit on either. It's just that I'm used to FF so I use it often.. even through it's the shittiest browser around.

No it isn't you fucking autist. Just because something's under a GPL doesn't mean it's GNU.


>ff + clones
>bloated laggy slow
>good extensions

>chrome + clones
>extensions are hobbled because jewgle
>vertical tabs impossible without some pop out window shit
>youtube downloaders banned

>ie + edge
>no extensions

>fucking kek

it's the only god-tier browser on that list.

Safari is utter fucking shit.

you've obviously never used it. it's fuckign god-tier. stable, uses least amount of resources, best UI, decent amount of plugs, best reader, saves pages as a single file. it's goat.

>lying this hard

>no arguments of any kind
try harder, kid. I'll wait.

wew i have that too

firefox 48.0 ubuntu

>no facts of any kind
shill harder Rajeesh

if you use FF in the year 2016 you are a total cuck. just use Brave browser from Brandan Eich himself.

still no arguments.

still no facts

Hey, you claim it's shit. So go ahead, tell me how it's shit.

Did Google just get a new set of shills?
Did they see the latest poll results and thought they'd have to take action?

Hey, you claim a bunch of bullshit. So go ahead, tell me how it's not bullshit.

thats not how it works, mental midget.

>calls someone else a mental midget

I use linux. and there's still no arguments of any kind. I see you're that mental nutjob who can't handle arguing and gets triggered by anythign apple. kek.

>macfag gets triggered by slightest mention of safari being shit
>goes full AIDF and tries to astroturf thread with made up safari marketing bullshit
>calling anyone else a mental nutjob

Seek help kid.

Uninstall your life desu

Everybody complains about firefox on this board, yet for me it works perfectly. WHY?

you and i dont have all those anime addons that rape your browser with tenticals.Working as intended

+ stable
+ awesome tab management
+ can load tabs on access
+ best addons
- slow

+ fast
- crashes sometimes
- sometimes your profile gets fucked when it crashes
- always reloads all tabs on startup
- shit tab management, completely unusable
- addons aren't as good
- text doesn't render on some sites

all firefox needs is more fast

i hear it's a bit iffy on >windows

>meanwhile chrome got an updated ui

what the fuck

Are you using classic theme restorer?

The only time I have problems with Firefox is when I open 20 Pornhub or xvideos tabs and flash crashes.

Actually it's also true for twitch and twitch for some reason online takes like 5 tabs... or when I play games 1...

I don't remember the last time firefox crashed.

>and flash crashes
>flash crashes


Hey I wish they all used HTLM5 but they don't...

i wish they all work in my desktop video player, but they--
oh wait, they do.

Both of those do.

A lot of sites will only use flash... until you disable flash completely. I know this as I don't even have it installed anymore. Been months since a site asked for it.

i don't get it

is it an animation? i have those turned off.

>chrome users
>not having a fuckhuge URL bar and unusable bookmarks/history browsing
>any year

Yeah let me just copy paste links every fucking time in VLC or whatever you use... how about no...

Not by default they don't.

>right click
>open with mpv

>Not by default they don't.
I haven't had flash installed for fucking ages and they play for me without any tricks or configuration, so yes they do.

Blame retarded browser devs for wanting everything to be part of the browser


If we used open standards to interface with local software none of these problems would have ever existed

Not sure why you quoted me as proof. I'm saying if you disable flash they wont use flash, they will use HTML5. You have no reason to have flash installed in 2016.

That's not the argument though. All of the coreutils and many other parts of the OS are part of the GNU project.

The coreutils aren't part of the OS, they're part of the UNIX compatibility layer often included in distributions of systemd/linux.

The only GNU/parts of Systemd/Linux are libraries the systemd userland management framework depends on. The rest is fluff, like your DE. Would you call it KDE/Linux because an OS "needs" a graphical file manager (since your favorite old OS had one, just like unixfags think an OS needs ls/cp/mv/sh), and you use KDE? No because that would be fucking stupid

GNU/Linux is a technically incorrect name. GNU does not form 100%, or even the majority, of software required for linux to function as a full modern OS with things like network and device management. All of that is done by systemd.

The only people using GNU/Linux are using bash-based inits and OS parts that need bash scripts like acpid (again, replaced by systemd)

Grow up and move on. It's 2016.

So you're saying if you have flash installed they use flash? Hmm it's like it's default when flash is installed.

And I'm saying thats too much of a hassle and they should use HTML 5 by default everywhere.

I don't actually mind flash I don't care the PC brute forces it... the crashing every now and then is something that bothers me but not enough to go to 10 websites and purposefully disable flash on them or disable it everywhere and purposefully enable it on 10 others.

Hey I totally agree with you but this mobile app bullshit leads browser devs to think about browsers more like phones. Just look at google thats clearly their intent...

Works for me

Google has always had shills. Really determined ones too.


100% correct. Let go of the past you fucking unix fanboy piece of shit. The shell sucks and the coreutils suck harder, and on top of that, they're no longer essential to operate the OS. They haven't been since perl was released. They are an anachronism like the terminal emulator, first kept for retro compatibility, then kept because people kept supporting it, then kept because you nerds don't know any better and want to save 3kb of RAM. You do NOT need GNU's clones of "UNIX" tools to operate linux at all, and if you think you do, they're so inessential that you can completely remove GNU's trash and install real UNIX tools that actually adhere to the UNIX philosophy instead of piling on pointless --long-options and help messages that do nothing for the few things sh scripts are still used for (it's not the primary UI anymore, it's just for running portable scripts).

The GNU toolchain and some libraries are the only things you need for an OS, because systemd, nearly half the OS, depends on them.

kay sievers strikes again


>"youtube downloaders banned"
>forgetting about the thousands of programs and websites with the exact same functionality



>uses Windows
>complains about any software

fucking idiot