Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook). ---- If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance). Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models: T420 - 14", normal size X220 - 12.5", ultraportable ---- Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops) >Used machines are plentiful and cheap. >Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet. >Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels. >Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models. >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop. >Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain. >The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad. >Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support. ---- Used ThinkPad buyers guide: ktgee.net/tpg
>tfw THIS CLOSE to buying a P50 >tfw not patient enough to wait until next year to buy a cheaper used one
FUCK
Aiden Gomez
I bought a T430 to replace my old Pavilion G6 that I accidentally snapped in two. Tried installing Trisquel only to find that it didn't like the wireless adapter. Trisquel worked fine with my old laptop, so I salvaged that adapter before I chucked it.
I asked in the last thread and someone said T430s have a wireless whitelist on the BIOS I'd have to purge first. Anyone got a good guide for that? I was also going to flash coreboot/libreboot (they also said libreboot doesn't support T430s but the website says "it is believed that all or most T400 laptops are compatible" so if anyone could clear that up that'd be ace), so if that'll sort the whitelist out too I'll just be wanting a guide to replacing the wireless card.
Ian Russell
fell for the meme and got a t400.
not used to the mouse clit tho. how do i make the must use of it?
Adrian Young
Am I fucked? Where can I get a new battery? x201 btw
Elijah Wright
the uefi on the t430 is encrypted so you can't just de whitelist the bios I'd suggest not using an autistic distro
The reason the T430 isn't supported is due to CPU's after the C2D requiring proprietary code to work properly or something like that
Easton Bell
Well, shit. I must've had T400 confused with T4xx and assumed it referred generically to all T4xx models.
So my best bet would be to get a T400?
Josiah Robinson
Can I get a Thinkpad resembling an ultrabook? Which models are light and do not have a dvd reader?
Ryan Lopez
i guess but why the hell would you want to use that terrible distro?
Cooper Evans
Thinkpad X series.
Jason Cox
Warning to people thinking about buying a ThinkPad...
I just made a thread asking how to fix this. T430 (and other T4xx?) screens get these white pressure mark blobs seemingly out of nowhere. Happened to me within a week and after carrying it once. Do you have to put them in bubble wrap or what?
t420 i7 2620 8gb ram 500gb hdd 'refurbished' and checked (1 year warranty) for 320 € or 356 Dollar too much?
Logan Wilson
I got my T43's replacement batteries on ebay. Probably not up to original spec, but enough to do the job without me having to rebuild the battery or something.
Michael Thompson
thoughts on x260? seems to tick all the boxes for me.
Jose Cook
>too much? Yes.
Grayson Davis
>upgraded my T420 to 3 drives master race because an user told me to >install OS, programs and some stuff >msata ssd is half full >both 1tb drives are empty >have more storage than I'll ever need why the hell did i do this
Benjamin Stewart
Because you like having two drives you don't need sucking up battery life.
Levi Scott
what about amazon I don't feel comfortable getting a good battery off of ebay,considering the ones that come with the thinkpads on there are all shit
Anthony Bell
It's usually from putting pressure on the screen quit beating your thinkpad up yes, you can get a t430 for that price keyboard layout is less than ideal, but I'm fine with it on my t430 because you're retarded ideally just buy one 500gb ssd and nothing else. keeps weight and power consumption down.
Owen James
Start hoarding chinese cartoons.
Dominic Gomez
>weight is an issue lel only if you're a fucking pussy
Colton James
You might as well backup to one.
Ethan Evans
why have 1 fast but small ssd, and 3 unused slow as hell hard drives? when for the same price you could just get a 500gb ssd and get a far faster system, AND weight reduction for basically free
James Moore
Where can I order a reliable replacement power brick and cord for my thinkpad? I have a X220 and I've heard using a cheap power brick is a terrible idea.
Zachary Russell
>Intel releases good mobile processors with decent integrated GPU >every laptop manufacturer still insists on putting hot and heavy discrete graphics in their laptops
why is Apple the only company that doesn't do this shit? I don't want a discrete GPU in my laptop, but I want all other specs to be top-notch.
Julian Young
what's a good light, nearly indestructible thinkpad with greater than 2 gigs ram that would be used for school work?
Kayden Green
Then get a business laptop.
Jeremiah Williams
buy a used official one But apples highest end laptop has a dgpu thinkpad x200 or better ideally get a x220 or better
Adam Scott
You clearly arent looking at all. Most laptops DONT have a dedicated GPU.
>dell xps13, entire inspiron line >x1 carbon, and the majority of think pad >majority of HP >several configuratins of Asus/Acer/msi
Camden Scott
official ones are like quadruple the price. Are they really worth it?
John Martin
they're like $20 on ebay you cheap fuck
Jonathan Stewart
Is there a way to know if the one you get is genuine or not?
Do you know who manages that last pastebin? I have a link to add regarding hardware flashing Libreboot
Isaiah Brown
Thoughts on the precision? I'm considering getting the 7510.
Easton Brown
if it gets too bad just install an X1 carbon screen or something, not too expensive and is a good upgrade.
Jackson Bennett
If you have a T500, they used the same power cable.
Angel Harris
Not to answer for him, but what's so bad about wanting certified freedom? (posted from a non-certified distro btw)
Ryan Thomas
My x60 tablet arrived today, the the hinge was completely broken, so I'm falling back on my old friend: gorilla glue.
Henry Morgan
I have had an X230 convertible tablet for a few weeks and I decided to give the pressure sensitive pen a spin. I made the horrible realization that the only software that will detect pen pressure is Lenovo's WRITEit.
Is this real? Do I really have a piece of hardware that could be used to draw beautiful art and the only software it can be used with is made to doodle over webpages and documents? Tell me there is a way to make the pen pressure detected by Photoshop or GIMP or something, at least. This can not be real. It's like having a set of expensive brushes and only being allowed to use them on toilet paper.
Jaxson Parker
>everything tells me that a x260 is a better choice than a x1 carbon >still on the verge to fall for a x1 carbon
I'd just order a Dell xps 13 if it weren't for the screen content adaptive brightness you can't disable.
Julian Gomez
I own a x1 carbon Comfy af
Grayson Price
The screen is goat, especially the 1440px one (the x260 maxes out at 1080p) However the x1 carbon >require you take an i7 to come with 16gb of ram >don't have a rj45 port >can't have a BIG battery >throttle with heat (well, not especially a bad thing if I target autonomy on battery) >will require me to buy dongles (should I want to plug in an Ethernet cable or a monitor) and can't be put on a docking
However >the x1 carbon is popular among Linux devs so I can expect support if I beg for help on IRC or Cred Forums
Gabriel Howard
why not coreboot? It will ultimately have better support
Joseph Richardson
By the way, what's the point of an i7 in a laptop if only U versions are available? And how do I compare CPUs to see if the option worth the extra money?
Jacob Johnson
>Alternatively The x1 is compact. It's not meant to be a work station with an i7 and 16gb of RAM connected to multiple monitors, it's on the go. It's great for what it was designed for. If you want the 16gb ram, don't get an x1.
Adam Sanchez
I don't especially need an i7 (I don't see what does it adds if I don't use hyperthreading regularly), but 8gb of ram is not enough if I expect to run virtual machines and meme machine learning.
If I just wanted a "compact confy laptop that is not meant to handle being used" I'd just get a macbook and call it a day.
The x1 pleases me for aesthetic reasons, for its screen and its popularity hence abundance of help available online.
Everything else tells me to get a x260 instead. But I somehow try to justify to myself that a x1 carbon is not that bad of a choice.
Jackson Sullivan
One of the stickers on the bottom of this thinkpad I bought a month ago is wearing blank, and is hardly seeable. Do I need any sticker other than the one with the windows code and the serial numver?
Samuel Harris
I think you're looking for a desktop computer.
Jace Perry
Nice trips but I won't commute a desktop everyday on my bicycle.
Austin Young
Just do virtualization at home. Why do you need to do virtualization on the go so bad
Michael Collins
The core benefit for me was always a completely deblobbed BIOS
If ME can't be removed, from my values perspective Coreboot is the same as the stock proprietary BIOS
Libreboot is unfortunately an irrelevant project on X86 at this point due to the extra efforts taken by chip manufacturers to make their low level malware irremovable
Gavin Nguyen
this, it's 2016 who runs VMs locally anymore?
I can use any older Thinkpad because all the heavy computing gets offloaded to a server.
Samuel Miller
How do I make these shitty TN panels not-blue?
Adrian Hernandez
>the most lit of thinkpads
I have to demonstrate a PHP project for a potential employer tomorrow
This is my only laptop
Am I fucked? Might borrow gf's laptop since it's not faggy like mine
Julian Phillips
Peel all of them off faggot. Even the OBEY one adding more cringe then the webcam ever did.
Lucas Wilson
How bad is the Thinkpad X100E for an ultraportable running a light Linux distro? I am cheap and they can be had for
Parker Gonzalez
QUICKLY! My brother's laptop died, he's looking at getting athinkpad to hold him over until he can get a better one (macbook probably), he does a lot of drawing and stuff would a x220t or a x230t be better?
Camden Howard
If I buy a used x220 with an existing HDD, is it better to replace it with an SSD or just use the mSATA slot for the SSD? In terms of performance, battery consumption or whatever you think is relevant.
Gavin Campbell
Ive been using supercal9C81 on my T420 with the shitty 1600x900 screen
If he need drawing on screen and do not want it to draw on external tablet, he should just consider drawing on paper
Evan Johnson
looks good to me whenever you get it check the SN on some lenovo database thing (or something like that) because you get a terrible experience if you want to spend 5 days straight setting it up nicely then go for it. or you could go with a non retarded linux distro, load some proprietary drives, and install a custom icon pack/theme and you are good to go
Nicholas Miller
Samsung has pci express ssds of 1 tb Would those work in any gen of thinkpad?
Luis Brown
Reposting this from /flg/ yesterday as there was no help there. Coming here hoping someone can help. On my new X220 running Antergos with GNOME I have problems with suspend. Or rather, waking up from suspend. It wakes up alright and I can log in* but sometimes (1/3 times or so) the desktop is unresponsive and displaying varying parts of what was on the desktop. Usually I can move the cursor around but no response to my clicking around. Sometimes all windows open show but don't respond to mouseclicks, sometimes just a white screen with cursor available. I not quite sure where I should turn my attention: display manager, window manager, kernel or something else... anyone got ideas on where I should look to identify the cause of this error? Or even better a solution for it...
*I can log in after changing the greeter to lightdm-gtk-greeter instead of lightdm-webkit2-greeter (default Antergos). With the webkit one I could usually not even log in.
TL:DR: desktop unresponsive/not showing after waking up from suspend on Thinkpad X220 with Antergos (GNOME)
Bentley Green
I posted this a while ago, but never got a reply. I bought a used L412 recently, and it works great, but being used to having a numpad, this is kind of inconvenient, as it doesn't have one. If I want to use its numpad, I have to do fn+f10 for numlock and then use its fn-key numpad. But this can be annoying if I have to use both numbers and keys on the right side of the keyboard. Is it possible to use it as a push combo, rather than a toggle thing?
Logan Perez
I think maybe the graphics driver? Try putting in in suspend w/out running X. Otherwise it's probably the kernel. Try an older kernel version see if it works.
Luke Wood
The x220 mSATA slot is SATA II not Sata III. So you're only going to get 300MB/s out of it (3 gigabit). That's plenty for me. Then you can keep the old laptop hdd in the hdd slot. Or get a cheap 2tb one or something.
Angel Sanchez
is the normal HDD slot SATA III or II?
Elijah Martin
As says x220 mSATA is only SATAII. But(!) for me at least there seems to be no practical difference when comparing to my machines with SSDs on SATAIII. Sure, we might be talking something like cold boot taking 6 seconds instead of 5 and opening programs 0.6s instead of 0.5 but it is really of no practical difference.
In terms of power consumption the less devices the better. And SSDs consume less power than HDDs. As for SATA vs mSATA SSD it depends on what drive. Afair mSATAgenerally takes less power although the difference is neglible [citation needed - can't remember where I read it] Regular drive bay is SATAIII
Could be graphics. Tried two different driver versions though and both show the same result. The system is still running just fine only without any windows etc.. I can change console (ctrl+alt+f1,2,3,etc.) without problems and the system responds to keystrokes even in the fucked graphical console which naturally doesn't SHOW the result of the keystrokes.
Angel Turner
III
Isaac Lopez
Looking for a small, but somewhat powerful laptop for photoshop with a wacom tablet, blender (nothing too high poly. I'll save that for my desktop), and some light gaming (nothing more demanding than Half Life 2). I found this on Best Buy's website
>X230 >12.5" >Windows 10 >i5 3320M >8GB RAM
$280 for the 320GB $293 for the 500GB
Are these fair prices and will they get the job done? Is there anything better at that size for a similar price?
William Cook
amazingly that seems to be what they go for on ebay. I would get one from ebay anyways just to have paypal and ebay buyer protection.
Get one without a HDD and put your own in.
Wyatt Ramirez
Anyone?
Jacob Morales
it's a bit high of a price for an x230 you can usually get them for $250 on ebay pretty easily Hell I got my t430 with dgpu, and backlit keyboard for $215 total
Colton Wright
Easiest way to do it is probably to make custom 'shortcuts'. Ei. FN+J = 1 There should be plenty of ways to achieve this no matter what OS you are using.
Nathaniel Adams
It looks like this would be impossible using XFCE's keyboard shortcut settings, since it's only for running commands or controlling the window manager.
John Campbell
Pretty gay but I don't think it'd really fuck you too bad. Might help you stand out as not just another prajeet
Jackson Perry
Update. Started trawling through logs for errors and warnings and found > [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *error* hangcheck timer elapsed... render ring idle
Getting my used T460s today, got it for 800€ and it's a pretty basic config (i5, 192gb SSD that I'm gonna upgrade first thing, FHD screen). How bad did I fuck up?
Luke Adams
A friend of mine needs a laptop for some specialized software, which reqires (higly recommended) Windows 10 to properly work.
Will i get any problems (no drivers etc.) running Windows 10 on T520?
Austin Reed
Just fresh install and it'll play nice. Although I'm now reminded of the spectrometers in the lab I linger around which only like Windows XP talking to them (or CentOS for the NMR, top lel)
Jayden Butler
can buy a demo model of t460s i5 6300u 8 ram 256 ssd cop?
Adam Flores
of course i forgot the price it's 870 euros that's kind of what you pay for these things in belgium
Brody Evans
Still struggling with this if anyone has a clue.
Wyatt Smith
Just bought pretty much exactly that, see Try looking in Germany and consider the T450s too, it has a removable battery and a 2.5" HDD bay. Thinking about it now, I probably should have gotten one of those. They're cheaper too, like 700€ for a decent one.
Jace Jenkins
If there is driver support to get the data, Linux has your back.
Tyler White
I'm tempted to hold out until 2017 to see if they'll make that retro thinkpad that was blogged about into a reality. If they don't release it for the 25th anniversary then I'll just give up hope and buy a P50.
Lincoln Scott
Why the hell would anyone buy chink Lenovo "thinkpad" instead of legit IBM thinkpad? You can get both for the same price anyway.
Easton Mitchell
thanks for the tip. got a link? google only gives me 1500 euro models
Lincoln James
You cant watch normieflix on a T30 user.
Jace Thompson
how do you like this x230t as a laptop?
Matthew Adams
Can you fit the guts of a Lenovo Thinkpad on an IBM Thinkpad case?
Nathan Kelly
There's a bid of a t450 at 200€ tight now. What's the max money I should buy that for? I think that anything more than 400€ is too much. It has 900p, i5 5300 2,3 (2,9) and a 128gb sdd. I'd add a 500gb/1tb hdd to it I guess.
Carter Foster
>Heavy GPU on a really weak CPU that bottlenecks it Why they keep doing this?
Luke Bailey
Are you guys able to push a 1440p external monitor with a T420?
Jeremiah Adams
Welp, it's the morning after, I tried to close the screen and the glue came right off, so it looks like I'll be ordering a replacement :(
I was looking at the MacBook but I can't run games on that so that maybe changes your opinion
Cooper Robinson
how can I active windows btw?
Sebastian Russell
>MacBook That's even more overpriced here and Macs are for Fags.
Jackson Gray
As a female I consider your commentary racist
Eli Bell
sjw spotted
Justin Russell
whats up lads, I'm looking for an affordable laptop to use as a programming machine however im dickass poor. Which one would you recommend?
Owen Adams
900p T400 for +- $100.
Kevin Allen
As a poorfag I need to use Photoshop/Illustrator, edit video and probably use a DAW and sound editing as well.
What thinkpad should I get? My budget would probably go up to 500€ (about 560 dollaroos)
Cameron Morales
>wanna buy egpu adapter >EXP GDC on banggood backordered >not a single seller sells them out of their us warehouse >hwtools take a decade to ship >duties out the fucking ass because of socialism. I am fucking PISSED.
Parker Russell
X200?
Samuel Bailey
Is there any thinkpad with 15'6" and IPS screen? I can't stand TN panels
Carson Perez
no
Angel Gutierrez
windows 7: Windows Loader windows 8.1/10: KMS Pico
Levi Foster
i got mine from gearbest
Xavier Martinez
Guys, just got my x200 and the right mouse button is loose and it does not click. I can use it though. Can I fix it or should I buy a new keyboard?
Lucas Wilson
What is more power hungry, an i7 processor or a quadro 1000m card?
Brody Russell
well it depends, you can disable the quadro, you can't disable the i7
Ayden Morgan
I'm trying to figure out if I should buy a 170W power adapter (I have a 135W). According to notebookcheck.com those two would require up to 90W. Would you happen to know how much more maximum watts would the rest (like the screen, HDD, WiFi, fan and whatnot) require? Would it exceed 135W?
I got a w520 witch should apparently come with a 170W adapter (the 135W should come with the w510).
>see a thinkpad in class for the first time >it belongs to a long and dirty haired fat neckbeard
At least he was wearing a shirt
Adam Evans
>T420 14" 320GB,4GB (i3) - 200 euro this one
Then replace the cpu for a quad core i7 and add an mSATA SSD.
Charles Wood
Where do you get these processors?
Evan Bailey
this
Colton Harris
ebay
Camden Reed
And the rest of the specs?
Another important factor is the screen resolution.
Kayden Martin
>tfw the T420 comes in on monday
What should I expect as a first time thinkpad owner?
Wyatt Cruz
Don't these run really hot with low significantly reduced battery life?
Liam Flores
uk and europe have retarded inflated prices compared to the US in pretty much everything, cars, motorcycles and everything else desu fuck these cucks
Jose Watson
>Don't these run really hot It's hit or miss really, some anons have reported housefire temps and others (myself included) get fine temps.
>significantly reduced battery life Indeed the stock CPUs have a tdp of 35w and the quad cores have 45w but isn't an issue unless you're using 100% of the cpu all the time.
Josiah Bennett
Hmmm, I think I'll wait to see what Lenovo says about this new retro before doing this. If there is no news by end of Q1 I just might. My T420 is acting a lot like a desktop replacement recently so I could use the added horsepower.
Mason Diaz
>I'll wait to see what Lenovo says about this new retro It's lenovo, they're going to fuck it up somehow.
Cooper Mitchell
Deep down I probably know I'll be disappointed but I can't help but be a little excited.
Xavier Powell
For the T420? A garbage screen. Mine literally looks like it has film grain I don't think I have ever seen a cheaper TN panel
Parker Fisher
GUYS, 20 (twenty) minutes left. I need to know what would the max proce of that thing could be.
Nathan Garcia
Unboxing time!
Wyatt Robinson
I'm waiting for 2017 to see if the retro is unveiled myself. I'm especially hoping for the latest Iris Pro graphics.
Aaron Mitchell
Skip the bullshit
Joseph Flores
nigga dis shit yellow
Landon Ross
Is it new ?
Bentley Hughes
Been looking at getting that myself although I must say I liked the old version a lot better. Let us know how typing on it feels.
fuck it, well, I won it, 354€ total. It's "new" because it was given to a guy to test it or whatever.
Easton Young
Apparently yes
Very good, it doesn't feel like a Chiclet keyboard at all, almost the same as my t420s, but the location of prtscr button is odd. I too would have preferred the old model as well but it's too expensive and couldn't find one in my language's layout.
Blake Harris
...
Owen Gomez
Sounds like a good deal to me
Easton Thompson
wait what
Gavin Russell
...
Joseph Gutierrez
Are the keyboard and trackpoint still good on the E series?
Levi Adams
Where should I get a replacement battery for my t420?
Jeremiah Diaz
In my early modern England course there is a really fat nerdy filipino (i think) kid that comes in every day blasting shitty Japanese power metal though his shit headphones on some shitty android phone from Japan.
He comes in and knocks everyone else out of the way till he finds his seat and proceeds to open up his thinkpad with shitty manga as his desktop background with a bunch of rainmeter rice all over it
I don't care if there are millions of thinkpad users who are normal, this kid has ruined them for me.
Jack Sullivan
You're fucking retarded.
Jason Young
naw but that kid was
Aaron Smith
i got mine from aliexpress
Ryder Morales
I'm sure best buy would refund me if they didn't send me the right laptop, though eBay does have more options.
Any specific reason I should get one without a HDD? I'm guessing hard drive failure? Maybe I should get one with a SSD and just spend a little more?
Christopher Rivera
You're like one of those people back in the day that refused to drive mercedes cars since germans made them.
Ryan Cook
A raspberryPi would be pretty good, or even a decent smartphone with a type-c port to power a display.
Juan Fisher
I was being a bit facetious I would totally use a thinkpad if someone gave me one or I needed it for some specific thing.
I just wanted to post about how big of a sperglord was.
And I drive a merc
Angel Walker
I feel you :
Josiah Hill
its weird man its not like theres anything inherently wrong or bad with them but it seems that at least in school the only people who have them are complete fucking nerds
Ryder Miller
Just got my new thinkpad. is there a way to configure the middle mouse button to act as middle click unless you're holding it? it works like that on my older thinkpad, but it's running linux.
Jace Butler
You described 90% of my university desing and arts students.
I tops have a 2hu background and never listen music. I would never play or see weeb stuff at all in school.
Austin Carter
If it wasn't for Cred Forums or these threads I personally wouldn't associate them with this kind of people, it still has this business feel to it.
Unlike a MSI or a RoG computer, people who bring those to class are always sperglords
Landon Sullivan
Is the x220 with the i7 2.8 worth it? I read that that power consumption is too high for the performance increase or something like that. Is that true?
Jordan Nelson
Not him but what happens if for any number of reasons you lose internet access? It seems like local VM's have the edge in that point.
Also just curious, what do you use, vnc?
Matthew Richardson
Whenever you type and need to move the mouse for whatever reason, use the trackpoint. You'll notice how much faster your work will be when your fingers never leave the keyboard.
James Campbell
>Are the keyboard and trackpoint still good on the E series? Yes, one of the few Thinkpad quality features on the Exxx.
Austin Long
My E6400 lost its hard drive recently, and I decided that I'd be nice and buy it an SSD.
It originally had an 80GB hard drive, and I don't think I'll need much more than that; this will be almost entirely a word processing/basic web machine for school.
What's the best option in the $50-70 price range? I have my eye on the Crucial MX300 240GB model, but I've heard mixed things about the quality of Crucial recently.
Gabriel Williams
I spilled water on my Lenovo Edge E431. after two weeks, it starts with no further issue, but it won't power up from the charger. Anyone knows what can I do?
>"I suggest you try the hard boot process: >1. remove the battery and disconnect the charger >2. push and hold down the power button for 30 seconds >3. replace the battery and power cord >4. start the laptop normally "
It didn't work.
The other option is to open it and disconnect the HDD. But I don't want to open it unless nothing else can be done.
Any ideas?
Ian Clark
micron (crucial) is a good, and reliable company. but for cheap I'd go with an 850/750 evo
Jayden Thomas
Put it in rice for a week
Mason Cooper
I'm using my new T420 since yesterday and I need to say that if I would have a chance to travel in time to the day I was ordering it I would choose it again. It's a nice upgrade from my old PC and keyboard is awesome to type and the price was low as fuck without ssd and with 8gb ram. Thank you Cred Forums for the meme I have fallen for.
Henry Lopez
I forgot to admit that I still don't know what distro of GNU/Linux should I install I have too slow Internet connection for distro hopping.
Camden Thompson
Try fedora.
The people who develop it actually have reasons to do it well.
If new to linux, try ubuntu.
If control-freak but sane, Antergos
Wyatt Rodriguez
Antergos
Lucas Jenkins
I'm not new in linux aswell. Have been using few distros before but before I install something I walk around the room for few days with mind completely drown in various possibilities.
Adam Foster
I don't think it will work
Jacob Harris
>lainchin bassett
Zachary Martin
Well the good thing about linux is that, you can run whatever, regardless of the distro.
Have you tried arch based distros? Antergos is fine.
Which DE do you like?
Gabriel Reed
why not debian? I started with it, and it was awesome!
Now I use LMDE, because I like the mate desktop.
Daniel Reed
just take them off and quit being retarded
Thomas Collins
Actually I didn't used it before and that's a good reason to give it a chance. I used to have wm only because of my slow pc. Spent with debian about a year or two. Too many things to write why I wouldn't choose it again. Especially I had too many dependencies bugs on all three releases.
Adam Martin
I wish some company put modern spec components into such a qt little bugger. I love blocky computers.
Camden Ramirez
>not used to the mouse clit tho. how do i make the must use of it? Turn off the touchpad in BIOS and force yourself to use it. After just a couple days you won't look back.
Cooper Richardson
Nigga those niggas are $100 a pop while literally every other laptop panel is $50 or less
Xavier Flores
Look at the big stickers.
If it says lenovo on it it's most likely legit
Samuel Rogers
Certified freedom is really slow and has awful driver support.
You can disable the adaptive brightness but only on the QHD panels (not FHD)
Julian Cox
This is why you don't put stickers on your laptop.
Even if you take them off they're going to leave distracting darker silhouettes of what once was there.
You already fucked up.
Owen Turner
>display manager This is only the login screen. Not likely. >kernel Doesn't handle output or drawing windows or any of that shit. >window manager Most likely culprit, in addition to drivers or any compositor (such as compton)
Jack Lopez
What is the logo with the dots above lain?
John Ward
Try seeing if you're eligible for Lenovo's free recall before looking anywhere else
On linux it does that right out of the box for me.
On windows just look for tpmiddle.exe on the google and throw it in your startup folder
Ethan Turner
Antergos, has many options for you
I recommend the community i3 version of it The XFCE version is also very nice
Kayden Baker
pls respond
Mason Brooks
its usually cheaper
Angel Gray
hey famiglia what is this slot for? it's above the HDD plastic cover. I found nothing in the manual
it's a T420s
Juan Flores
Aliexpress like anyone decent would
>tfw just ordered a T61 9-cell battery >tfw considering ordering an ultrabay battery too
Lucas Anderson
something that you will never need to use ever.
Evan Morales
Is 12.5" too small for programming? Should I rather go with 14" for more comfiness?
Sebastian Jenkins
Thanks but judging by your answer you know as much as I do about it.
James Murphy
Go 14" definitely. I would argue that you could go even futher up from that but 14" is in my mind a perfect mixture of portability and usefulness.
Kevin Martin
I ordered an X220T because of you faggot Thinkpad shills. Let's hope it lives up to the meme
Zachary Young
I actually know what it is though.
Sebastian Ward
we got another one lads
Tyler Miller
Why won't my computer play sound when I press the unmute button on my thinkpad x201 running xfce on openSUSE the volume control says it's unmuted, but the speakers won't play any sound
Owen Hernandez
It worked played on my headphones. Until I hit the mute/unmute button on the keyboard again. Now the headphones and the speakers won't play sound, even if the mute/unmute button is pressed
Thomas Flores
>open found the problem depends on what you are doing if you are doing some real programming any laptop screen is too small and you are going to want a 1440p 25" screen minimum
Nolan Williams
Just found out It's just the fucking mixer buggy PoS
Oliver Torres
But you don't.
Jackson Thomas
But i do.
Jace Clark
unless you work for the government you probably wont ever need it
Colton Parker
But you don't.
Nor do you apparently.
Jason Morris
if you don't even know what it's called then you most likely will never need it before something better comes out
Jack Cook
Why does my T520 smell like horse shit?
Cameron Gray
But I do. I just dont feel like spoonfeeding.
Dominic Garcia
It's a smart card reader. Now you guys know too.
All you had to do is ask...
Angel Kelly
GOD DAMMIT MY THINKPAD SMELLS LIKE HORSE SHIT, YOU FUCKED ME Cred Forums
Blake Davis
this is why you never buy stuff from bronies.
Isaac Gray
>he fell for the thinkpad meme lmao
Jeremiah Adams
I think I have isolated the smell, it was the worst around my HDD compartment, so I took it out and sniffed it and then I sniffed the whole thinkpad again. It's those rubber things on the sides of the hard drive. They smell like literal horse shit.
Jaxson Perez
T420 on offer with 14-inch screen, i5 2.52 GHZ, 4GB RAM, and with a 320GB HDD (I'll be adding a SSD) for £150 ($195).
Would you say this is a good deal? Need a laptop to work on for my PhD.
Luis Sanchez
fuck PulseAudio
Sebastian Cook
I already knew what it is, I use one every day you will most likely never need it unless you work for the government
Nathaniel Ross
#!/bin/bash
amixer -q -D pulse sset Master toggle
set the mute button to cause this script to run. or just switch to ALSA, it works fine on it.
David Anderson
The picture you posted already has a numpad. If you look closely there are numbers beneath letters j, k, l. You can use those keys as a numpad if you toggle the numlock.
Lincoln Thompson
I think it might be because ALSA and PulseAudio are both on at the same time
Christopher Ross
Is there anywhere you can get one of those kits for upgrading the t430/20's screen to FHD anymore?
Elijah Rodriguez
So today the screen of my X200s died, quickly switched to my W500 as i figure out what to do.
Camden Cox
so the mute button unmutes the master mixer, but it doesn't unmute whatever speaker (headphones or laptop speaker) that PulseAudio is using
Lincoln Clark
How's the tablet functionality on the x220t? Does it work well with Windows 8/10 tablet modes?
Asher Howard
especially if you get a later model x220 it works great with the windows touch screen stuff but using windows on a touch screen is god awful. The only thing it's good for is browsing the web in bed
Oliver Nelson
That's about standard price. If you look around you can probably find something lower, but I'd take that price.
Adam Young
Lads, how long do you last on your thinkpad batteries? I'm running at around 3h20m idle/around 2h when doing stuff on my x220 with i3 and tlp fullt charged (battery max cap is at around 80% currently), but I feel like it should be lasting a bit longer. Am I doing something wrong?
That's all I want it for desu. If I can get a tablet model for the same price as a normal x220, I'm gonna go for it.
Colton Stewart
my t420 gets about 7-10 hours lightly browsing the web, and about 13 hours with the 9 cell @ 85%, battery, win 7, and lenovo power manager. t430 gets 3-4 with a battery at 56% also with w7 and power manager. how much is that in a real currency? unless it's like $75 I don't think I'd trust the chinks with my sheckles for anything too much more or less
Tyler Moore
Turn off touchpad. Give yourself a day
Jackson Morales
Am I only restricted to 2.5'' (7mm) SSDs for my X230?
Justin Ortiz
What?
Christopher Adams
Can always just ditch the ssd and go full msata for reduced weight and power consumption.
Levi Thompson
you can put an msata in there too and you can get a 9mm drive in, it's just getting them out that's really hard without taking the whole thing apart.
Josiah Murphy
fuck, then I don't know what it is what settings should I look into?
Jace Stewart
a new official 9 cell
Ethan Torres
I'm considering that, obviously, but it still shouldn't be running that bad
Wyatt Evans
Don't use linux
Jeremiah Morgan
But then I'd have to buy Windows 10 separately, wouldn't I?
Nolan Martinez
the key is on the bottom of the laptop, or under the battery
Joseph Hernandez
>vnc? only for deployment on a local network or IPMI management if something goes wrong, it's garbage >lose internet access my secure connection to the server is set to reestablish automatically without re authentication so I preserve my sessions
This is trivial to set up on a good OS
Samuel Gutierrez
Can one of you Cred Forumsents help me out with this? I got a T420 recently and installed Windows 10. (I know, I know) I can't get this shit to go away in the device manager.
I looked up the vendor/device code and it looks like the description is Intel AMT. I figured this would make it go away, but it didn't. support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds037750
Oliver Jenkins
install the intel management firmware thing on the downloads page for the t420
Zachary Wright
forgive me for the stupid question, but does it matter if an ebay seller isn't a microsoft authorized refurbisher? they have 100% feedback if that helps.
Joshua Nguyen
Why cant i find the fingerprint drivers fro my x61t on windows 7?
Tyler Martin
This is the page I have bookmarked for T420 drivers, but I don't see Intel anything there. Wat do?
Any recommended eBay seller in Europe for T420 batteries?
Jaxon Diaz
you have to install the windows 7 64 bit version gooknovo doesn't like to update their drivers, even when all they have to do is say that it supports windows 7/8/8.1/10 avoid refurbished shops ideally don't pay the $100 refurbished "fee" on a device that's $200 as long as it says that the device is used and working ebay will bend over backwards to fuck over the seller for you lenovo
Cooper Parker
if you have to have a refurbished computer make sure it's manufacturer certified
Kayden Roberts
Hi, I was just given a very old ThinkPad 760ELD. Before I came home (I was sitting on a park bench when I did this) I started inspecting it, and next thing I knew I was jumping back as baby cockroaches started crawling out the back of the machine!
I had already been suspicious there might be dead roaches inside - I'd asked the guy if he'd had a roach problem in the past because I saw a couple warning signs. He said he'd had an exterminator come in, so I was more or less bracing myself for it.
Anyway, I got a black trashbag from a nearby shop and it's now sitting in my freezer. I know they're probably just hibernating in there, though.
I don't wanna throw out the machine (I've got brand new OS/2 Warp 3.0 CD-ROM boxes I'd like to use, and this thing's got a really neat keyboard), but I also don't want a roach infestation. So I'm wondering: If I first (in my driveway or somewhere else outside) pulled the battery & HDD out of the laptop and then dropped the laptop in a big bucket of water, would I be able to drown the roaches?
I'll be taking the computer completely apart and scrubbing it clean of roach-shit afterwards, of course. I'm just wondering if: a) this will kill them. b) this will kill the laptop.
In the past I rescued a VIC-20 from water that leaked through a warehouse roof and stunk of sulfur. It still works to this day after a thorough cleaning, so I kind of doubt this is a problem.
Also, I recently wrecked my car, so driving it to a pest control place is not an option for me. I'm in America, so bike accessibility is basically non-existant.
Anyone know, or have better ways to kill these motherfuckers without drawing a ton of attention from the other people living with me? I don't want them panicking about roaches since I've got them contained in a plastic bag, and have the backpack that I brought the laptop home in also in a plastic bag.
Not my pic, mine looks disgusting ATM.
Also, anyone got a four-pin charger or know a good cheap place to find one?
Alexander Wright
One of those Win 7 intel downloads fixed it. Thanks!
Ethan Kelly
>home/end/insert/delete/pageUp/PageDown not clustered >not bullshit kek.
Matthew Diaz
>raspberry pi No, that's NOT good, by definition. Maybe a beagleboard X15 or something. ti.com/tool/TMDSEVM572X
Still not a PC-compatible, unfortunately, but after using a Nexus 6 with a debian chroot I actually have standards for ARM computers. A RPi doesn't cut it.
Maybe a good smartphone, but the lack of uHDMI output on most of them means a SBC is infinitely preferable.
Gavin Bell
Oh also I let the guy know he had roaches in his attic, so he's calling in a different exterminator now.
I really want these things dead and am in no rush at all to get the laptop itself working.
Brayden Rivera
Get some gloves and open that shit up somewhere outside preferably.
Ryder Martinez
Yup. That's a thing.
Michael Watson
I read you can only do so if you use windows.
Hudson Walker
newegg got em homie
Jose Ward
Yeah, I asked about opening it up on my driveway and dunking it in a tub of water to drown the motherfuckers and any eggs.
Parker Reed
convince me to not buy a P50
[spoiler]I'm a manchild and I want to do light gaming, hence the dgpu.[/spoiler]
Noah Sanders
Minecraft doesn't require a dedicated GPU these days.
Robert Fisher
There is a teeny tiny chance that Lenovo may not cuck us with retro.
Charles Jones
Please respond
James Collins
Might as well wait for new generation desktop GPUs to sneak in there
Jason Campbell
inb4 its cucked with the windows only soft raid like the pooinloo yoga
Lucas Hernandez
'windows-only soft raid'?
From someone who hasn't bought a new laptop since 2007, what is this about?
Samuel Sanders
...
Colton Morales
it only seems to be on like 1 or 2 models of the consumer yoga no thinkpads are affected (yet) and no thinkpads that Cred Forums cares about will be affected.
Doesn't fucking matter either way. If they have good reputation, take them up on it.
"unauthorized" servicers are the ones that will replace individual failed components instead of entire motherboards. They are (usually) the clever ones.
(BTW I'm a computer engineer)
Mason Cook
Thanks. Yet more reason to stick with older ThinkPads and Dell Latitudes. (The D630 is an amazing little laptop, too!)
Zachary Butler
anyone having issues with the power manager? after a windows update it stopped functioning, any suggestions?
Gavin Kelly
So, I'm debating whether to buy the X220 or a T420. The T420 is taking my fancy due to the larger screen, but also the X220 might be easier to take on the train with me, which I do regularly. Are there any known issues with either laptop, or is there some sort of infographic I can refer to? Many thanks in advance.
Mason Nelson
For the 70th time: depends on your need. If you want to use the laptop for everything, get BLAZEITFAGGOT, if you want something comfy for lighter work where screensize does not matter that much (reading and writing* stuff) an want portability, go X220. If you are not a manlet and STRONK go get a 15.6+" though. Screen size DOES make work much more convenient. *Yes, I know when writing (especially programming) it is handy to have as much as possible of your previous work ready at the screen.
Yeh, same problem here. Old model costs $150 or so here. More than I have to spend on a keyboard right now. When my trusty current keyboard dies I have some ideas though. 1: 'make my own' keyboard. Ei. taking a regular keyboard and mod it to have trackpoint etc. like I saw some other folks do 2: find a replacement oldschool keyboard and build a case for it + do some tinkering to get it working as a USB device. 3: repair that Rollermouse I have in a box somewhere and just use that + some random keyboard I will probably find in a dumpster.
Anyone else loves and hates that small bit of satisfaction when your girlfriend compliments your X220 and calls it a nice little cute thing but then goes on to saying that she still prefers her Mac? Ofc. then I asked if I should do a hackintosh install OSX on the X220 and she called me an idiot :(
Jonathan Long
Yeah thanks man, gonna go get the Bob Marley. What RAM do you use? I'm thinking just anything 16GB will be fine, regardless of brand.
Ryan Torres
What do you mean? Speed? Brand? Quantity? What?
Daniel Russell
i mean as long as it's 1333 or 1600mhz you will be good. power manager is working fine for me on my t420 and t430 it doesn't say anything about a dgpu, so it probably doesn't have one. although the task bar looks pretty small so it may at least be 1600x900, but I wouldn't expect it.
Isaiah Bell
I wouldn't risk to dunk it in a tub of water, just open it and be sure to clean it up really well, then maybe wait and see if something strange comes up again.
Nathan Garcia
I literally mentioned in the post that I was talking about brand, but I could've been clearer. I guess brand doesn't really matter in laptops?
Luis Adams
If you wanna go into semantics then you also mentioned quantity mate...
As for brands, well, sometimes a compny has earned their reputation for a good reason, other times it's just people shilling without any real reason. I wouldn't bother too much with getting the 'right' brand but on the other hand I would probably not go for the cheapest, no-name, chinkshit I could find. Someone more into 'good' brands will have to do the actual recommendation(s) as I simply don't really care about brands. I usually just look into my big box of parts collected over the years and hope I can find something that works and fits. Eg. I tink my 8560W has 3 different models of RAM modules in it (3x4) but my X220 has two of the same as I happened to have two identical modules lying around.
Brody Martin
Which thinkpad has an IPS screen?
Im looking for a big screen, a good batery life and if possible a thunderbolt connector
Caleb Turner
i kinda wanna update from x201 to x220
where do i find a cheap one?
Landon Gutierrez
Noone help this guy please. If he is too stupid to find out himself where to look a good machine is wasted on him. 'There are no stupid questions' is something only really stupid people say.
Blake Fisher
im asking to see if people know other better offers than the ones on ebay/craigslist/gumtree/etc
kys my man
Nathan Nguyen
Dont tell people to kys themselfs
Liam Ortiz
That might have been what you meant but it was not what you asked. Rephrase your question,then try again.
Grayson Stewart
Yeah nah, how about you go fuck yourself bitch
James Reed
How is the Thinkpad 13? Never hear any mentions of it. On sale for $1000(AUD) atm, 6200u/8GB/FHD/256SSD. Way better than anything in that price range here.
Alexander Powell
Reddit likes it I guess. Why do you have to post that butt? This is a sfw board in a laptop general. it just makes it way more awkward to open in public. It has nothing to do with your post itself
Blake Myers
>browsing Cred Forums in public you deserve it
Alexander Taylor
Yeah well, with that attitude you can forget about any help from me at least. Go fuck a landmine my special little snowflake.
>he actually consider Cred Forums to have any safe SFW boards
Jose Cooper
Why? Whats wrong with browsing Cred Forums in public?
Samuel Wood
Why is the x220T so much cheaper than the x220?
Landon Powell
cause they're so much SHITTIER
Grayson Wright
I found a really sweet deal on a T450(i5 5300, 8gb Ram), but the battery is dead(works around 2h). The deal is 500$, is it worth buying and then replacing the battery ?
Benjamin Davis
Just google how much is the battery and do the maths dumbass
Luis Diaz
I just wanted to ask that, I've seen one sticker without the dots, just squares in that pattern. It reminded me of a glider for the Conways game of life but maybe its a logo for something as well.
Jack Barnes
I don't see why they'd care
Where do you have the SO ones from?
Jacob Jackson
Just curious, what's the average battery life of your laptop? How many hours on a full charge?
Alexander Rodriguez
Is it worth buying a T61 for a shitposting machine?
Matthew Morris
hey Cred Forums, been gone for a while, what are the best old dirt cheap Ts and Xs (or other thinkpads)? I'm talking
Noah Reed
>2571x704 lol, it's going to happen isn't it
Daniel Sanders
Whats the best replacement trackpad sticker I can get for a T430?
Henry Harris
>tfw power down my hdd to run on msata ssd >battery estimate immediately increases by 2 hours Why aren't there terabyte msata ssd's yet?
Colton Harris
Because mSATA is deprecated, got replaced by M2 so there is no reason.
Also there are 1TB mSATA SSDs. See 850 EVO.
>T430 is cheaper than T420 >x201 is more expensive than a x230 Fuck weird prices.
Asher Brown
memed out and bought a T420, anything i should look out for while setting up? seems to be a clean w10 install aside from a "lenovo recovery" partition
Brody Garcia
Anything wrong with the T450 that one should know about?
Jonathan Foster
trying to get a response. Which models have IPS panel by default?