>there are people on this board right now who actually believe unironically that terrorists and child pornographers should have access to strong encryption to hide their tracks from law enforcement
How much do ISIS and NAMBLA pay you to shill for them?
it's a necessary evil. if criminals arent using it, then what is it worth?
Leo Flores
how much u getting paid 4 this???
Grayson Jones
You tell me, paid NAMBLA shill.
Bentley Adams
pol idiocy at its finest!
Isaiah Foster
I prefer freedom of the masses to order of the few.
Henry Young
Is it even possible to "unlock" it? I was under the impression that the private key is in itself encrypted with password hashing.
I guess what they mean was allow the government to have a version of the OS that allows for brute forcing.
also sage
Jonathan Lewis
wtf I hate privacy now
Isaac Thomas
its not that they should have access to strong encryption its the fact that if the 3 letter agencys have some master key for the iphones anyone who hacks the 3 letter agencys can also get the master key and those hackers could work for russia or iran.
Cameron Wood
>pol >not Cred Forums
newfag spotted
Lucas Lopez
This thread again
Liam Green
A warrant to enter one house != a key to access all devices
Carson Robinson
Cred Forums defends Drumpf, and he wants to ban encryption.
Wyatt Barnes
>there are people on this board right now who actually believe unironically that terrorists and psychos should have access to assault weapons
How much do ISIS and the NRA pay you to shill for them?
John Thompson
>implying Hillary doesn't have the same stance for the right price
Nathaniel Hill
You do realize that most people on Cred Forums are not dumb Americans and aren't affected by that pseudo-argument, right?
Camden Nguyen
>giving a shit about any of that shit
/r/Cred Forums spotted
Alexander Jackson
it wouldnt be just one device. they want apple to create a back door for certain iphones.
Carson Clark
What's /r/Cred Forums? I googled it comes back with reddit. lmao are you a fucking redditor?
Jace Cruz
He wants to ban non-government encryption.
Hillary wants to ban everything electronic, especially encrypted email servers
Jeremiah Mitchell
XD LOL
Dominic Torres
I fully support banning encryption for non government use. It'll fully stop the pedos and durkas and animefags from breaking the law.
Lincoln Collins
Except for the mailserver in the bathroom amirite?
Levi Murphy
>XD get out
Chase Peterson
if you support this then you must also support abolishing the second amendment for non government use.
Nolan Rodriguez
So you also want to abolish e-commerce and banking?
Ian Torres
I've submitted myself to corporations since I prefer having free services and having them know I swim to shelling out a quarter for every search. That said, the government should not be able to force and enforce a breach of privacy. I use botnet services out of my own volition, but I can't choose not to be spied on by the NSA. The government is supposed to work for the people and protect their rights, not directly go against them.
Jordan White
no, you don't fit in yet
Hunter Reyes
That's why you get a permit, dumbfuck.
Jonathan Rodriguez
There are over 7 billion people (debatable term 'people') on this God forsaken planet. A few people suffering due to few 'bad' people is a necessary evil. Like one person once said. I would defend one bad guy for a million peoples right to privacy and fair justice.
Jordan Perez
Yeah, maybe not in neo-Cred Forums
Chase Robinson
>using cancer memes
see ya!
Ian Garcia
You don't know what the second amendment is about, kid.
>boo hoo hoo muh pedos >boo hoo muh cp Not even a pedo but it's a victimless crime *user enters the NSA watchlist*
Look. I NEED Encryption to keep my personal files safe if my machine is stolen. End of conversation. I also need it for privacy reasons.
Do you want your ISP to see what you're doing? Do you want the NSA to be able to read your emails? Fuck the surveliance state.
I don't know why i type these. You Cred Forums natinolists will just come here to post sixty more threads and instead of debating you'll throw insults around lile cuck, pedo, degenrate, shill, "you get payed" etc etc.
McFucking kill yourselves
Ian Campbell
You do realize you use many forms of encryption in everyday life?
Jacob Ross
>this strawman again No one's suggesting we not encrypt anything, just that we use cryptography with openings towards law enforcement. This is nothing but common sense.
You are still going to be able to encrypt your machine to protect it and be private. The backdoors are only going to be used with a warrant.
Nicholas Jones
Damn, NSA's not even trying to be subtle anymore.
Levi Myers
Holy shit, encryptards are dumb. You're still gonna have encryption, you nimrod, except there are gonna be asymmetric backdoors to catch terrorists. Unless you're a criminal, this won't affect you at all.
Aaron Gomez
There is no reason for there to be a backdoor. If there is a backdoor and LEO gets fucked, all my shit is fucked. I want to keep my security and OPSEC in my hands and not in LEO
Lucas Price
If my government can access my files via backdoors it's possible for others to do so as well.
Jason Anderson
Not if it's an asymmetric backdoor. Inform yourself before being opinionated.
Nolan Stewart
If there is a backdoor it's insecure, end of story.
Luke Torres
Does NAMBLA actually have money to pay people to shill online? ISIS probably does, but I doubt supporting encryption is really their main concern.
Cameron Brown
Pic related is you right now.
Kevin Brooks
What's physically stopping terrorists from encrypting though?
Henry Cook
Nope. If anyone can access my files but myself, my files are not secure. This is undeniable fact, there is no debate, just stop posting.
Jason Foster
No one will have access to non-backdoored encryption, but even if they manage to get access, just using it will be a crime by itself and we will have grounds to arrest them just because of that.
Aaron Bailey
There's no point in this because people will just continue to use non-backdoor encryption and not give a fuck what the government says. If anything they're just making it harder for themselves to catch 'bad guys'
Ryder Moore
>No one will have access to non-backdoored encryption
Just what are you planning to do, ban internet and burn all books discussing cryptography?
Andrew Long
>anyone You keep repeating this fallacy.
1. It's not gonna be anyone, only the authorities. 2. They can only do it if they have a warrant.
It's like you are complaining that if anyone can go inside your home then it's not really your home, but the government already can go inside your home if they have a warrant.
This has been established to not hurt security/privacy, it's undeniable fact, there is no debate, just stop posting.
Nolan Carter
>giving criminals another law to break means they'll stop being criminals You're as retarded as the people who think making guns illegal will stop criminals from using them.
Jaxson Smith
>This has been established to irreversibly ruin security, it's undeniable fact, there is no debate, just stop posting
FTFY
Owen Scott
You are a complete fucking moron. What I'm saying is if any person, INCLUDING THE AUTHORITIES, can access my files, they're insecure. And again, if the authorities are capable of accessing my files, then others are too. I'll stick with nobody but me having access.
Adam Mitchell
Stop pretending this is impossible, this has already been done. We already have strong restrictions on the exporting of encryption products, and in the past this used to be enforced: publishing encryption algorithms online was illegal. You're obviously too young to remember this.
Nolan Sanchez
>if I meme harder, maybe I will be right
Isaac Martin
So if something is illegal it just doesn't happen? I guess no-one pirates anything ever, then.
And just because something is illegal in the US doesn't mean jackshit for the sane parts of the world.
Joshua Watson
We want to put them in jail. Non-backdoored encryption is going to be illegal, if they use it they'll be taken away anyway. So we win.
Hunter Davis
...
Bentley Gray
>What are asymmetric backdoors?
Isaiah Davis
Try reading the rest of the post, friend
Andrew Rivera
It's like you can't into cryptography.
Asymmetric backdoors still have vulnerabilities and are still susceptible to attack. maybe not one as traditional but the private key can still be recovered.
and so what? you act like they need a reason anymore to issue a warrant. Cops can literally print warrants in the spot if they wanna search your vehicle. you act like this extra bit of transparency would be good. it won't.
Carter Mitchell
But then you would still have to prove that the data is encrypted in the first place. Isn't that pretty much impossible?
Nathaniel Sanders
Ban warrants altogether then. Law enforcement can't go into your house unless you let them. The police cannot investigate shit. Otherwise they will abuse it.
>you have to learn that "abusus non tollit usum", kid
Gabriel Gutierrez
Potential for unwarranted access. Considering I don't even want the people for which the backdoor was placed using the backdoor it's definitely still a security vulnerability.
Blake Jackson
it's mathematics. you can't outlaw the implementation and knowledge of mathematics.
Asher Collins
Because sane people exchange completely random data all the time, right?
Ethan Russell
Are you retarded, do you think upon that ban PGP clients and truecrypt setup files willnjust dissapear forever?
Camden Perez
>animefag breaks down door and holds gun to my head >excuse me sir but i'd like to point out that this is a banned activity >he apologies and leaves >get a check in the mail 2 weeks reimbursing the door
William Cooper
how stupid can people be? It's like prohibit "advanced" math, I guess these is the same kind of peple that propouse ban of full face helmet just cause a couple of robberys and the camera didn't get the face. Is a security issue, encryption should be the standard, there are bad/curious people listen on networks. Spot the logicall fallacy on your argument. x used y in a bad way, lets ban y cause I don't understand what is y
Colton Hall
You might not want it, but it's the law. Most people wanted it and they elected politicians that represented them and made it into law. Put up with it. That's how civilization works.
Leo Kelly
>asymmetric backdoor >asymmetric backdoors
babby learned a new word (he thinks it means magic)
Nicholas Flores
It is not the law and I will continue using encryption the way I currently do if it becomes a law. Either way a backdoored system is an insecure one and you're a complete fucking moron to support such a thing.
Blake Watson
>this is just a purely random mathematical sequence that by mere accident produces a moving picture that photo-realistically resembles the image of a 10-year old girl having sex with a 42-year old man
Dominic Myers
Why make encryption illegal if there's literally no good way of enforcing it?
ISIS isn't going to stop sending encrypted messages just because fatland asks them politely to.
Lucas Hughes
No, but if you use them, you get nicked.
Isaac Gomez
>privacy >privacy >privacy babby learned a new word (he thinks it means magic)
James Wood
Not yet, but it will inevitably be. It's only a matter of time now. Both major presidential candidates are for encryption-control, so you better start wiping those hard drives full of kiddie porn soon.
John Perry
That makes no sense
Jace Hill
>using encryption == pedophilia I should've known I was arguing with an NSA shill and not just some random retard
James Collins
>Kikes want to ban encryption so they can blackmail any party to do their agenda. >Find the most hated trend right now in the media; mudslimes terrorists. >Make an incident and a terrorist attack. >Make all the media talk about it for 3 months, trying to show that encryption is insecurity, insecurity is against American dreams. >They get the public support. >All that before the presidential elections. If the encryption banned, the only one who is wining here is the jews, you fucking goys.
Aaron Moore
>use btc >buy illegal cryptography tools, untouched by govt. >increase black market >profit
Camden Morales
anti-encryption shills ITT have 100% confidence in the government to never do anything wrong ever. It's kind of scary, they think the government is like god and should be all powerful , it's the evil people stopping god from achieving it's rightful omnipotence
pop-quiz hotshot: when in the history of mankind has a government ever even managed to stay in power? Let alone be good and trustworthy?
ɹǝʌǝu
Did you ever stop to consider we don't want these retarded assholes having keys to our backdoors?
Caleb Moore
Fine. stupid civilizations that want to trade safety for "security" can do so, while the rest of the world will go on to continue developing and using crypto.
Juan Cox
This JIDF meme stopped being funny a couple of years ago. You're late to the party.
Easton Stewart
Also, how do you think they'll get a master key, not for a tool, but for a algorithm? RSA-2048 for example?
Lucas Powell
>get your IP traced >be sent away for decades for using illegal encryption
Hunter Ward
You dont get your IP traced if you are safe enough.
Nathan Jenkins
Aaaand it didn't take a 1 minute before a JIDF show to the 'late' party.
Luis Perez
I know you're baiting but how the fuck do you expect to enforce a ban on mathematical functions? Shit's always going to be trivial to pull off no matter what your shit president does.
Measures like this only ever punish law abiding citizens.
Cameron Ortiz
The JIDF is an actual organization, and it's not the only jew propaganda group, pic related
I don't understand why this crisis over encryption is happening now, this whole controversy should have happened in the 90's or earlier.
Brandon Hughes
Like what, using Tor? That by itself will be illegal, any connections to the entry relays can be traced. Stay mad.
Daniel Hall
Why would you be against encryption retard? I dont have anything to hide, but govs have nothing to do in our private lifes, evem if you are a middle-class stay at home mom, doing nothing, you should not have the govt. read your whatsapp messages, its fucked up.
Landon Baker
Fuck, pedophiles literally grasping at straws at this point.
Dominic Thomas
>its a pollard thinks he's being treated serious episode
Lincoln Moore
establishment is scared of the internet, it gives the people too much power, encryption is part of what keeps them from being able to get to you irl
Charles Williams
Uh... It's just a couple of guys with a website and a twitter account, you know right?
Benjamin Kelly
You're obviously jewish
Grayson Powell
It did actually, and encryption was regulated back then. Regulations stopped being enforced and Islamic terrorism rose as a consequence.
Dylan Taylor
>anyone who doesn't agree with me is a pedophile
People like you are why libel laws should be enforced in the internet.
Ethan Roberts
They won't look into your files unless you give them enough cause to issue a search warrant against you.
Xavier Carter
>Islamic terrorism is wholly a result of encryption
this is what the FBI actually believes
Carter Gutierrez
>mommy, someone's BTFOing my arguments online! Suddenly Cred Forums isn't such a bastion of free speech anymore, huh?
Parker Richardson
it's simple, remove the list of exit nodes.
how the fuck is the gubmint supposed to know what's encrypted traffic and what's pure gibberish? there's no deterministic system for this. it's impossible.
if some bullshit law like this is ever passed, activists have so many options it's not even funny. it can't be enforced.
Colton Lee
not the other guy but are you JIDF ? you sound JIDF.
Bentley Jenkins
One ironic thing that happened during the crypto export restriction era was that people overseas who wanted access to strong crypto had access to it (developed outside the us), and us citizens ended up using the weakened crypto for two decades because their shit gets manufactured overseas (Windows being the prominent and well known example).
Restricting crypto will only under the assumption that only us can develop it, or that all other countries will also ban it (and enforce said ban). Both are silly assumptions.
Camden Wilson
Why are you against freedom of speech, user?
Lucas Walker
Insults aren't arguments, jew.
Kevin Cox
It's just one shill and he's made at least one thread a day for the past three days. His thread from the day before yesterday is still up. It's easy to see that it's the same guy, he doesn't even bother changing the wording of his responses at all.
Jayden Flores
This is what everybody KNOWS, you retard.
Connor Nguyen
>You weak hater of America. You're puny. Come see me when you have the same eyes that I do.
Logan Brown
honestly everybody should have access to strong encryption, not just the terrorists and pedophiles OP.
Juan Morris
Because people exchange gibberish all the time, right?
Lincoln Jones
>it's hard to enforce guys, t-trust me! >i-it's hard to do so you shouldn't even try!
Holy fuck, Saudi encryptard shills clutching at straws!
Julian Sanchez
Someone tell me how they plan to backdoor something like LUKS
Brody Nelson
Privacy is an unalienable right given to us by our Creator. If law enforcement have a reason to look at my encrypted files, they should get a court order and I'll gladly give them the key. Until then, whatever files I choose to encrypt are mine and mine alone to decrypt as I see fit. How hard of a concept is this to understand, you pinko communist faggot?
Christian Hill
No right is absolute, you fucking moron.
>believing terrorists and pedophiles will just turn in their keys peacefully and gladly with a court order Boy, you're naïve!
Gabriel Lopez
>there are people on this board right now who actually believe in government with limited authority and inalienable civil rights ftfy
Carson Kelly
>whatever I don't like is communism I used to like this meme more with nazism.
>court order That's how the backdoors are going to be used. Your privacy rights are not in check here, nothing will change for you unless you're a criminal.
Andrew Cruz
Backdoors only for the good guys are impossible.
Either encryption is safe from the good guys or it's not safe at all.
Jeremiah Roberts
Go jew somewhere else, you fuckin kikes
Henry Lee
But what about my 2nd amendment rights?
Joseph Sanchez
Who give a shit?
>want me to give up my rights because of mah children
Fuck children. I'd rather they all suffer than give up my rights to privacy
Josiah Sullivan
Kek, Cred Forums stopped being bastion of free speech since long time.
Zachary Anderson
Except Nazis are extinct. I only wish you communists were extinct too.
Camden Martinez
Sure thing, Ahmed.
Adam Wright
How do you differentiate raw data from other raw data?
Do you really think that you can, at a glance, know one binary stream from another?
The only way to do this is to spy on everyone all the time, by default and only have a whitelist of authorized content, this is fucking 1984 level of contrived bullshit authoritarianism.
Thomas Rodriguez
>nazis are extinct You haven't been to Cred Forums lately, have you?
Daniel Jenkins
That's a nice argument. How will you keep the bad guys from getting a hold of the backdoor? That I really want to know.
It's not fucking possible.
Jordan Powell
>No right is absolute The entire Constitution rests on the premise that rights are absolute. If we can't even agree on this, I don't see how a conversation on policy would be productive. You're probably not even American.
Elijah Williams
>he thinks Cred Forums isn't on the 18th level of irony with the nazi shit Fascism isn't dead for sure, but bona fide National Socialists are for good.
Bentley Williams
>An asymmetric backdoor can only be used by the attacker who plants it, even if the full implementation of the backdoor becomes public (e.g., via publishing, being discovered and disclosed by reverse engineering, etc.). Also, it is computationally intractable to detect the presence of an asymmetric backdoor under black-box queries. You should just have stayed in school.
Jonathan Davis
banning encryption would be nearly equivalent to banning math. Good fucking luck with that retards
Anthony Nguyen
Dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery
Kevin Butler
>What is signature-based real-time traffic analysis? Did they just defrost you?
Maybe that's why we're seeing such election results in Europe, not to mention a literal nazi running for president in the US.
Watch pic related. Nazism is very alive.
Samuel Miller
>communism isn't extinct Are you still in the 80's or something?
Oh, I forgot Republicans still think we're in the Cold War and think we need another Reagan!
Julian Powell
>polshitter upset he got b& for leaving his containment tank
wew
Carson Bailey
>the entire Constitution rests on the premise that rights are absolute That's not true at all. Despite the 1st amendment, you can go to jail for defamation. Study law before you talk out of your own arsehole.
Grayson Flores
It's already been engineered. You can't un-engineer it. If you outlaw it, outlaws will still use it. Banning it only hurts the law-abiding.
Jose Butler
>hurr durr muh terrorists
You do realize that the ones who were responsible for the attacks in paris didn't use encryption at all, right? Even if they did, banning encryption because of "muh terrorists" is as retarded as banning toyota pickup trucks because of ISIS.
Eli Sullivan
Not fast enough to be applied. iirc not even the brits and their bloated budget can't do it universally yet.
Mason Williams
Nice try, kike. We're all Cred Forums, but with technology flavor
Caleb Torres
Quick! Ban gunpowder and steel before someobe uses them for nefarious purposes.
Jason Powell
reading through the replies
is there anything Cred Forums cannot refute
if only Cred Forums was allowed to make all of the worlds decisions
there are some great minds here
there are some idiots here too, but there are some great minds here too.
Eli Perry
This, Cred Forums was created for free speech. Degenerates, anime, and cucks are runining this place. Why not just ban Linux also? Pedos and terrorists use it.
Jason Sanders
It is true and the defamation laws don't change that.
Carter Perez
pol not Cred Forums shill detected
encrypt your shit everyone
Carter Hill
Places like Cred Forums will become outlawed and go underground if globalists get their way.
Elijah Ward
Cuck >>>/reddit/
Isaiah Hernandez
>replying to obvious FBI/NSA shilling You know, if we were to get rid of the FBI/NSA, Google, Microsoft, and Apple shilling on Cred Forums, this would be a great fucking board.
HOW ABOUT YOU FUCKING GET ON THAT, Cred Forums?
Swear to fuck, the only fucking place I've ever seen that actually allows paid shitposting and does fucking nothing about it.
Adam Barnes
Yes they should.
Daniel Rodriguez
you can make this ridiculous argument about anything that allows privacy >WHY LOCKS ON BATHROOMS GUISE?
Nolan Watson
Stay mad and ignorant
David Collins
>I want encryption so I can break the law Found the jew. You've been destroying western society with degeneracy for too long.
Tyler Baker
I wonder if it hasn't already begun.
moot introduced the Google captcha system on this website just before he left.
Anybody else notice the constant anti-encryption threads on Cred Forums? The NSA shilling is real.
Bentley Thompson
>criminals use cars we shouldn't use the same convenient things as them. Burn your car before it's too late, you filthy terrorist supporter.
Bentley Morris
Whatever you say shlomo. It's the goyim who want to stop your support of terrorist attacks who are at fault here, not you.
Jaxon Jenkins
>liberty is jewish Terribly meme'd my shill.
Zachary Jones
*sighs* I hate you pro-police state shilling morons.
Michael Reyes
Kill yourself cuck, this is a Cred Forums website.
Caleb Adams
>hiding your cp, drugs and terrorist plans is liberty Kill yourself, fucking kike.
Jaxson Bennett
Terrorism is a false flag movement, it's more than just the covert black operations. There's agencies that are setting up these bombings and attacks on civilians. Your own government terrorized this country using it's federal agencies against the population. Go read about the real history of this country's government, starting with the FBI's COINTELPRO and the CIA's MKULTRA to begin with.
You morons deserve to be killed in terrorist attacks because it's your own government orchestrating it and completely responsible for it. Encryption isn't meant to stop any terrorism, encryption is meant to keep whistleblowers from leaking information about the conspiracies to the public.
Evan Rogers
THIS! I've been saying that since forever. I'm screenshot it if you don't mind.
Hunter Edwards
Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it
Nolan Rogers
Google shill pls
Isaac Nguyen
> This is what a FBI agent believes
FBI plz go. You're so lazy that you're substituting terrorist investigation with a Google search.
Joseph Sanchez
That includes the right of law enforcement and NatSec to get access to information they want to have on everyday citizens.
Jacob Rogers
Fuck adults. They all deserve to suffer by being stripped of their dignity. To protect a tiny handful of children, of course.
Bentley Gonzalez
Wait.
So, the underlying implication here is that Apple has the *ability* to hack the iPhones.
Which means it's shit security.
So why are people bothered? You use shit crypto, it gets broken, that's how it works.
David Sanders
>there are people on this board right now who actually believe unironically that terrorists and child pornographers should have access to strong encryption to hide their tracks from law enforcement
You shills aren't even that creative. You always use the same two tactics, ad hominem and straw man arguments, the most simpleminded of all logical fallacies.
Oliver Jenkins
Wait, shit. Meant to tag a different post. Ah well. I'm retarded.
Samuel King
>people who hide cp are criminals No, people who make it are. Having digital cp data is as legal as imagining a naked underage. >drugs are bad because the government says so That's nice legal alcohol, caffeine, nicotine etc. your country has user. Why should they be legal and other forms of drugs not? You're just being retarded. Everyone has a right to consume whatever they want, who are you to stop people from taking drugs, eating junk food or eating dirt if they want to? >thinking by giving up on his liberty he's stopping terrorism This was proven to be false. Terrorism will always exist and no amount of removed civil rights will stop it, it will just make people's lives more miserable. Criminals will find a way to safely communicate with or without encryption. Governments are actively trying to reduce people's rights and saying "this is for your own safety" is just a meme idiots like you fall for.
Hudson Young
>No, people who make it are. Having digital cp data is as legal as imagining a naked underage.
NOOOOOOOO, you fell for his straw man argument. Now he's going to ad hom you even more by calling you a pedo.
Jace Martinez
>ad homo
Camden Flores
>just before he left.
ummmm
Michael Reed
>Nobody should have guns, the terrorists and criminals might use them. >No one should have locks on their doors, the terrorists and criminals can hide things behind them >No one should drive a car, look how many accidents there are. >No one should wear clothes, what if the terroists and criminals hide shit under them. >No one should have air, you could start a fire or something
Fuck off with your elementary school bullshit. Encryption is vital to freedom.
Wyatt Sanchez
a couple of months yeah. what was it ? 3 months ?
Aaron Wood
More like a couple years.
Tyler Fisher
They will use sites like this to brainwash morons with memes. It's already been proven that memes are a form of mind control. If you don't think so, remember how the average idiot on Cred Forums worships Trump, an almost caricature of a globalist. Yep, Trump is the typical globalist. Greedy, born rich, financial elite, the 1%, Judaized with a Jewish family now and he's a Zionist that knows nothing about the average person. Yet, the masses on Cred Forums worship this particular person out any candidate they could have memed, they chose a representative of the elite.
Angel Morris
Criminals use guns. Maybe we should get rid of those?
Carter Lee
Guns have criminals, maybe we should get rid of the criminals?
Jose Butler
>they will >implying we aren't already in a shilling thread based on that very premise
William Collins
no, trump works for us
Aaron Russell
I can't even tell if people are actually retarded or just acting retarded anymore. Is there a difference?
Julian Ramirez
>having CP is legal The NAMBLA shilling is real!
Juan Sanders
>encryptards keep spamming this strawman
FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, NO ONE IS SAYING WE SHOULD BAN ENCRYPTION!
We just think it should have secure backdoors.
Daniel Kelly
Thanks for correcting the record!
Lucas Hernandez
Secure backdoors? How the fuck do you think they can keep them secure? Worse than that, why the fuck do you what the government to be able to see everything you do? What happens (and i know this an extreme hypothetical, but bare with me) if a tyrannical government gets its hands on this "secure" backdoor?
Jeremiah Hernandez
There's no such thing as secure backdoor. Even if it's supposedly secure, there's no way to guarantee it won't end up in the wrong hands.
Gavin Thompson
Lol this. I see what he's doing. Fuck that asshole
Austin Taylor
Kleptographical and cryptovirological techniques allow that, you pedestrian mass-media-parroting useful idiots.
Jason Foster
Math doesn't know the good guys from the bad guys
Christopher Diaz
>i'm a statist bootlicker fuck off, backdoored faggot
Landon Wilson
That only addresses half my point. All it takes is one crooked cop and everyone using the cryptography scheme in question is at risk.
Aiden White
...
Ryan Turner
Mate, it's the human element that scares me. Tyrannical governments, Whistleblowers, just one fucknut who decides hes going to tell the world all about this backdoor and how to use it. But please, keep using ad-homenims instead addressing all the points.
Jackson Flores
No we shouldn't. And also this
Ayden Anderson
Terrorists use gmail drafts to message each other and share the password. You wouldn't ban gmail, would you.
Jaxson Cruz
Cred Forums is dead go to /tech/
Aaron Bennett
Appernlty no, they'll just make it so the government can automatically look at anyones emails/email account with a "Master Password" that is "Secure"...
Tyler Morris
come and take it
Anthony Lopez
>should have secure backdoors >should
Which will be enforced through draconian punishments. Don't write 'should' when you mean 'must'.
If you're banning encryption that is not broken by design, you're banning encryption.
William Perry
>banning encryption tech illiterate
Asher Peterson
>go to /tech/
it's actually even worse tho
Eli Barnes
>Sourcs: wikipedia. Maybe yoy should fucking get the full story, it's still vulnerable to a SETUP attack. No backdoor will ever, EVER be secure, just accept it.
Luke Ortiz
>a key to unlock apple devices DO U EVEN COMPUTE BRO?
Aiden Bailey
8ch is practically dead and /tech/ is slow as molasses.
Michael Smith
> everything i don't like on Cred Forums is Cred Forums
Carson Cox
I still like /tech/, 8/tv/ and occasionally 8/pol/. The speed can be fucking unbearable though. I don't expect the site to last more than another year or 2. Shame.
Ian Lee
For real this guy is a shill. Encryption is privacy. It is protection from warrantless earch and seizures
Daniel Sanchez
Well saidThis dude that you replied to is legitmately retarded
Ryan Baker
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Isaiah Ross
Guys im first year uni i just heard about this klepto.... thing. Anyway ban encryption yeah
Jack Hughes
okay yes but a system to bypass it was introduced a couple months before he left - logging in with your google account.