AMD Product release Cycle of Grief Denial >There's no way Bulldozer/Hawaii/Fiji/Poolaris is actually shit! thats just a Nvidia shill site with fake benchmarks!
Anger >I fucking hate the world! fuck the evil corporations for not letting good boi AMD succeed!
Bargaining >At least with AMD I get muh Async performance which like 2 games use
Depression >Maybe AMD really is just a cancer holding back technology by providing no competition...
Shill next year's product >Vega/Zen will wreck Intel and Nvidia!
Take this pseudo-consolewar trash to Cred Forums, we don't give a shit
Luke Scott
Makes sense.
Juan Jenkins
>mfw this cycle has been going on for 5 years now
Nathan Rivera
Really makes you think!
Mason Moore
top kek
Lincoln Morgan
but amd is pushing stacked memory, which is the future standard nvidia wants to stay on gddr because its cheap and they can sell marginal upgrades every year with it
competition is a good thing
Asher Flores
The funny thing is that AMDrones unironically shilled hawaii even though it drew more power than even the housefire gtx480.
Hudson Howard
Except depression is
>Nvidia does something EVEN SHITTIER THAN LAST YEAR
David Howard
>but amd is pushing stacked memory, which is the future standard
future standard? hbm is expensive as fuck and the only advantage of it is having one big package instead of having memory chips spread all over the board.
it's very likely that the current poolaris cards will be rebranded with only vega hbm2 cards occupying the highest tier of cards (>$400).
Ian Rivera
Which one is the stage where you go back to ?
Carter Rivera
Im sure production will not get cheaper over time. Its not like anyone is saving money with less material needed, less power draw and a bigger bus
Jose Davis
Nvidia life cycle:
is x driver safe?
what was the last good driver?
did x kill your gpu too?
is x driver safe?
Sebastian Cruz
HBM =/= less material. It adds complexity and requires more steps in the assembly/test process because of the interposer and extra memory chips.
Jace Wood
Intel life cycle >Im fucking never upgrading this Sandy Bridge cpu
Jackson Reed
But literally every bench ln a non gameworks game with a amd/Intel amd/nvidia price equivalent says otherwise..
Ian Wood
Acceptance >Sure, Bulldozer/Piledriver/Hawaii/Fiji/Polaris was shit, but just wait for AMD's next product!
Hudson Morales
>hbm is expensive as fuck HBM1 is, yes. HBM2 is apparently cheaper due to a simpler manufacturing process.
Brandon Evans
HBM2 isn't any simpler than HBM1. It has the same amount of TSVs and the stacks that are being produced right now are still 4-high.
There's 'low cost HBM' being developed right now that has ~gddr5 bandwidth and half the pins that normal HBM has.
Brody Hughes
Did you ever actually owned an Nvidia product or you're just memeing to look cool in eyes of Cred Forums?
Aiden Martin
Power draw isn't a issue on Hawaii because A: It actually performs and B: AIB solutions are plentiful
Jack Gonzalez
These are reminders that Intel and Nvidia hardware are objectively incredible, whereas AMD and AMD Radeon hardware are objectively shitty, you retarded butthurt beta AMDumbass peasants.
In nearly every thread asking about CPUs or upgrading some faggot will say "wait for Zen" as if it will change anything at all, then it'll be "wait for Zen+", Zen won't touch the mid to high end i7s you just watch.
Joseph Morris
Probably AMD will price their cpus very well and even if they won't have any enthusiast chips (6700k+) they will hit the overall market pretty hard. Also Vega is coming out and will compete with the 1070, 1080.
The cpu market has been stagnating for like 4-5 years, maybe now it will change a bit.
Colton Gray
Then the 1080ti will come out and top Vega, then the 1100 series will come out and top it even further.
The only thing AMD is good for is budget PC building, that's it.
