Opera

any advantage over firefox or chrome?

Faster and snappier than Firefox, not as botnet as Chrome, it comes with a free VPN and built in adblocker.

no. chrome has always been the best browser since it's launch.

so then why do only 1% of all browser users use opera?

I used it for a while recently.

Pros:
Free built in VPN / quick / built in ad blocker / tabs automatically color themselves to help you sort

Cons:
Sync between devices is garbage / extension support is meh

Open source firefox>sjw Firefox> Chinese Opera>other browser>Jewgle Chrome

>no. firefox has always been the best browser since it's launch.

ftfy

Not bundled with anything

Safari
>iOS and Macs
IE/Edge
>Windows
Chrome
>Google
Firefox
>Freedom

Because people get chrome on their new devices and it just works and they don't care. Firefox will be down to 2% in a year.

How's Vivaldi compared to Opera?

I recently switched
it feels a tad slower in performance and sometimes the hardware acceleration seems broken for me but I prefer it because of the old features like tab groups and tiling

If you're not autistic about the UI, the only difference is that with Vivaldi you have to install Ublock and a VPN and a video popup extension if you want to use those. And Opera comes with a battery saver button. But as far as I can tell, Opera is actually working on new features all the time instead of put all emphasis on the fucking UI.

wait wut opera is chinese?

Yup, and now has a VPN. A chinese VPN.
>Aren't they nice?

The owner is, the developers are Poles, their development studio is in Warsaw.

Is that supposed to make me feel better?

Vivaldi's developers are the original Norwegians. The latest (point) builds have been about the UI and bugfixing, because they're working on bigger stuff behind the scenes.

lol kthen

Yeah, because it's not being developed by a Chinese communist party run sweatshop, as many autists here would have you believe. I'm just telling you what I know. For at least a year Opera has consistently been working on new features. The adblocker, the VPN, the battery saver, the video popup and now a personal news feed. I value that and I find those features useful and that's why I use the fucking thing.

You can ios or android the standalone app.
No browser required.

Presto was pretty useful to me.
Chropera can eat dick.

Whether you like it or not, Blink is the future. Firefox will be near death in a year and that would've happened to Opera too. I too used Opera way before it abandoned Presto, but I'm not a fucking whiner.

firefox was pretty shit until 2.0. IE6 was about equal in terms of standards to 1.5 was legitimately better than anything earlier as long as you could live without tabs.

I miss 12.16 guys ;_;

And when Cred Forums stops working on Presto, I'll use something else. Meanwhile, Opera killed Presto and built a new browser based on selling my eyeballs and getting even more information about my browsing habits.

The original norwegians are using Blink to remake Opera. You can see where I'm getting at.

Use it, OP. It is better than Chrome.

>Pop out videos
>The best new tab page
>Opera Turbo
>VPN
>Native Adblocking
>Sexy Interface
>Uses Windows Notifications
>Exclusive extensions
>Best Android Browser.

It literally supports all the chrome extensions.

stupid question, OP

it's by far the best browser on the market. so, should you?

FUCKING THIS

also

>We are also a major contributor to the Blink rendering engine, second only to Google.

Why wouldn't you use the best browser? How stupid are you?

Do you even know why Opera decided to abandon Presto in the first place? And the Vivaldi people are just people who split off from Opera, they're not ''original''.

>Opera killed Presto and built a new browser based on selling my eyeballs and getting even more information about my browsing habits.
>The original norwegians are using Blink to remake Opera.

you don't know anything about Opera. what you said is pure bullshit. lies. just stop.

>Do you even know why Opera decided to abandon Presto in the first place?

Lack of balls.

Opera Portal let me add my RSS feeds. The equivalent Chropera feature (a good idea in itself) only lets me see "sponsored content".

Don't even get me started on the amount of user-facing customization that used to shield users from tracking that just became "hey, we at Opera know best - forget that we're using a Google engine now"

Isn't 12.50 a beta for an older Opera 12 version?

>Lack of balls.
More like the lack of resources to code basically everything to support Presto because webmasters were only interested in Blink and they only made sure that their content works with Blink. Look what happened to Firefox, which was and still is a much, much larger company.

Utter trash

>>Opera killed Presto and built a new browser
Well he got that part right

I don't know, retard. Why don't you try it yourself and see if you like it.

Better UI, Opera turbo, battery saving mode (does work compared to Chrome), VPN, pop-out video

>over Firefox
no
>Chrome
It doesn't look like ass

>no

>Opera has no advantage over Firefox

You mean besides the fact that FF is a clunky turd of a browser?

That's one hell of an argument you've got there.

>muh speed meme
Just stop

>Proprietary Red Chinese botnet browser.
And the stupid cucks call free software communist.

>browser speed isn't important

Why even reply if you literally don't have an argument?

Browser speed's unimportance is my argument.

That reddit tier hipster bullshit. Then use le Otter browser, fuck firefox, it's so mainstream.

Of course you'd think that. You're so used being cucked performance wise that you've grown to accept it. Guaranteed if you weren't too stubborn to test drive a different browser you would begin to appreciate browser speed again. It's not placebo.

TLDR: lack of balls.

What in the everliving fuck are you on about?

It's not a placebo but it's definitely not worth using an otherwise shittier browser. Sure it'd be great if Firefox was faster, but even though it's not it's still a hell of a lot better than Chrom*. Also for the record I don't use Firefox.

It was the beta for Opera 13 (or 14 if they decided to jump over 13, we'll never know). More advanced Presto, more bugs.

What do I lose by switching back to FF besides a few extensions I don't need anyway?

>What in the everliving fuck are you on about?
Speed is not important to you, le botnet shit is, I suppose you also mastrubate to open source software so that's a perfect browser for you - Otter browser.

Is it worth using or should I just stick with 12.16?

everyone (mentally challenged fanboys excluded) knows that it's a fucking mess. much, much worse than other browsers. their market share is dropping faster than Bill Clinton's pants. FF is dead and that is fact.

Apparently nothing since you don't use what makes Fx better.

I'm not a freetard, hell I'm using a closed source browser right now.

Still better than Chrom*

How am I supposed to know what makes FF better? I'm literally asking you to tell me that, dipshit.

Why would you stick with 12.16? The only people who insist on it are autists who hold some particular feature of that version in very high regard and won't let go.

Is opera 36 beta still getting updates, and is it """secure""" ?

Its extensions and customizability.

>hold some particular feature of that version in very high regard and won't let go
*features and that's exactly why.

the fuck are you talking about? we are at 40 right now

So give me an example of an extension that makes FF so worthwhile, moron.

>he's using 8 months old version

TST, mongoloid.

I would use it if it wasn't non-free.

I'm talking about the version with GDI font rendering, I haven't used opera in years but would consider switching if the font doesn't look blurry.

Why is it necessary?

What features? Tab stacking? I'm genuinely interested in what makes a person stick to a defunct piece of software so desperately. In any case, no company has an obligation to shape its policy towards 0.5% of its autistic userbase and features they consider absolutely irreplaceable.

eh? it never looked blurry

I don't think the bugs are worth it... Your mileage may vary.

Pretty much this

Nowadays I literally only use FF to browse porn. That's all its good for

So you can use more than 5 tabs without them getting small as shit and having no text.

>tab stacks
>side tabs
>Opera Mail
>Opera Turbo
>right click gestures
>integrated adblock
>integrated userscript support
Just to name a few
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_of_the_Opera_web_browser#Legacy_features.5B10.5D.5B11.5D.5B12.5D

Why can't you just rely on hovertext when you feel it's necessary to have 20+ active tabs open like the rest of us?

>TST

Go to the extension page, it's full of fucking problems

>doesn't work yet with Multiprocess/e10s. For those that are curious, even setting FF to force e10s doesn't work.
>Mute tab sound function was broken again. I's super annoying.

>side tabs
addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/simple-vertical-tabs/?display=en
>opera mail
still works
>opera turbo
still works
>gestures
still work
>integrated adblock
check
>integrated userscipt support
autistic feature, still not so hard to work around it

why using opera when you can use vivaldi

Because Vivaldi is utter trash?

...

Why the fuck would I when I can already read 20+ tabs without needing to move my cursor over each individual one?

I don't care if Chropera's finally a half assed alternative to Opera, I will never touch it. I'll be using Opera 12.16 until a true successor finally comes along or it simply stops working with the modern web. Given the way things have been going, probably the latter.

Because Chropera's an actual browser while Vivaldi's just a shitty Chromium web app?

you are hurting my feelings, anons

good

>or it simply stops working with the modern web
And then you'll either switch to a Blink based browser or Firefox, which by then will be near death. Your little personal rebellion will do absolutely nothing.

I'll be switching to SeaMonkey.
>Your little personal rebellion will do absolutely nothing
The fuck are you on about?

So you'll move from defunct Opera software to defunct Mozilla software that hasn't been uptaded in 6 months? You people are beyond help.

I'll move from the best browser to the next best thing.

>absolutely nothing

Except using the tool that works best for me for the longest amount of time possible.
>we got a badass here....

does the new opera have a good speed dial?
does it have custom themes that are not only background images?
tab stacking?

who /Opera developer x64/ here

>Muh proprietary
Why are you even browsing a closed source imageboard?

>Muh chinese.
The browser is Norwegian, the deal with the chinese hasn't even completed.

>does the new opera have a good speed dial?
the best
>does it have custom themes that are not only background images?
it has backgrounds and you can change the top bar color
>tab stacking?
in the works

Yeah right, all the browsers of the world can't even compare to a 3 year old abandoned piece of software.

yeah
no
I think there's an extension for that

The developer version is too unstable for me, I use the beta.

then I will stick with my current browser, thanks

>The browser is Norwegian

The browser is from Poland.
So many Norwegians fired.
The remaining Norwegians decided to sell to the Chinese.
Why? You killed Presto, you killed most of the things that made Opera special, so you lost all reason to continue existing.

>all the browsers of the world can't even compare to a 3 year old abandoned piece of software

That's how good it is.

stop posting, it's embarrassing

>Opera is Presto
Damn user, are you still using Windows 98 because MS-DOS

Where were you when the Opera forums melted down after the Chropera release?
Opera should have listened to their users.

But no, now we have
The same Webkit monoculture everywhere.
An official Opera that shares nothing of the original spirit
An unofficial Opera that is spinning its wheels trying to create a browser UI from the browser engine itself
And the best browser engine unmaintained.

>An official Opera that shares nothing of the original spirit
why are you lying on the internet?

He's not.

Thousands of posts, and fallen (banned) comrades telling Opera
>DO. NOT. WANT.

Trying to use Chropera (yes, I really did - up to version 23 or 24...)
>WTF is this shit?

>lying
Keep telling that to yourself.

You mean the developers WERE Poles and their development studio WAS in Warsaw.

engadget.com/2016/07/18/opera-browser-sold-to-a-chinese-consortium-for-600-million/

If you don't believe me, just search for "Opera Chinese consortium" :^)

HA!

Chroperafags BTFO

You fuckers are about as dumb as drumpfags

I wouldn't. Especially when browsing deep web websites like Cred Forums.

Do your own research. Its only cons are that all useful settings are hidden behind the Konami code, partner bookmarks(first install only) and incompetent team that leaked sync password hashes, somehow. It also has some features that really should have been plugins. Luckily, there are flags for all of them. I personally think that the UI has just the right amount of useful shit to not be cluttered and no useless shit that you can't disable. But it's the whole different story on the Android - you have to be retarded to use anything but.

>Using the same clickbait article.
Why not we go to the original source?
techcrunch.com/2016/07/18/opera-renegotiates-its-1-2b-sale-down-to-600m-for-browser-privacy-apps-chinese-jv/

>"The original, $1.2 billion deal had a deadline of July 15 to close, but it didn’t make the cut after failing to get regulatory approvals in time. This new deal now has a “drop-dead date” of October 31, 2016, with an automatic extension to December 31 if the two sides fail to get everything completed."

And according to Opera itself:
opera.com/blogs/desktop/2016/02/stillyouropera-for-computers/

>"We are and we will operate under the Norwegian law. We are respecting users security and privacy today and will continue tomorrow as we did in the past."
>"Chinese ownership will not mean Chinese identity. We will remain a Norwegian company and handle user privacy like we do today - in accordance with European and Norwegian law."

So right now Opera isn't Chinese, and if someday it gets owned by them, it won't change a thing.

Same reason I don't use Vivaldi, Brave, or Chromium.
Blink.

>He actually believes them
Yep, dumb as a drumpfag

Put more aluminum to your tinfoil hat, user, I can hear your thoughts.