Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook). ---- If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance). Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models: T420 - 14", normal size X220 - 12.5", ultraportable ---- Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops) >Used machines are plentiful and cheap. >Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet. >Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels. >Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models. >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop. >Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain. >The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad. >Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support. ---- Used ThinkPad buyers guide: ktgee.net/tpg
I want a 4:3 Thinkpad with a useful CPU. Am I fucked now? Are all the X60s, T60s gone?
Carson Green
>useful CPU
Define 'useful'
Nicholas Williams
Can run a modern IDE, compile shit without taking 2 years.
Ethan Foster
Reminder that Latitudes are better than ThinkPads
Nolan Ramirez
Found a t560 with i5-6200u, full hd resolution for 750€, used for a few months. Should I get it? It is in a good condition.
Kayden Garcia
X62.
Comes with 5th gen i7
Caleb Johnson
So I am visiting the guy thst I am buying a thinkpad from tomorrow. What do I do before buying? Go into bios to check specs Check condition of the thing itself What more?
Parker Wilson
Where's a good place I can get a nicely specd t510 preferably online(uk)? Is eBay a good option?
Josiah Allen
T601F?
Matthew Green
Ok guys, first time buyer here, so please excuse me if I sound like the babby I am (yes, I looked at the buyers guide, I'm still confused.)
I'm looking for a laptop to run botnetOS on, preferably a thinkpad since I really like their design as well as how repair-friendly they are. Durability is a big plus since this thing will be getting lugged around and will be seeing quite a bit of dusty and possibly humid environments too.
Something that can handle mongolian basket weaving tutorials, web-browsing and and the MS office suite and all of that stuff, as well as some light CAD and ECAD would be nice. If it can handle everything except for the CAD stuff without having the fans go crazy or throttling down, that'd be nice.
Don't need a desktop replacement since my desktop is more than powerful enough, just need something for light work on the go.
Screen aspect ratio isn't that important, don't need anything larger than 15", preferably a bit smaller. Good battery life isn't a massive necessity, but a big plus. If I can just swap out the battery, that'd be the best. Clit mouse would be a huge plus.
Budget isn't a massive issue, but if it can be kept under 400, that'd be nice too. Located in Europe.
What should I be looking at?
Thanks.
Asher Sanchez
I need a new battery for my t400. Where can I grab a decent one that won't explode or turn into sand? Aussie btw.
Lincoln Perez
Usually the temp is around 60°, but oscillates a lot when browsing or updating package (which I'm doing a lot since I have to install all the software that I use)
Hunter Jenkins
Is downgrading from a Dell Inspiron 15r 7520 to a Thinkpad X220 worth it? I just found one for the equivalent of ~300$ in local currency and the only reason I'd want it is to bring to uni since it's smaller and has a better battery. Also the trackpoint supposedly makes bringing a mouse pointless.
Joseph Mitchell
looking for a 256gb msata SSD for my T420, i narrowed it down to 4 >SanDisk X110 £56 looks slow >Crucial MX200 £77 >Samsung 850 Evo £83 and the maymaymeme >Kingdian M200 £32 what do
Camden Gutierrez
>trackpoint supposedly makes bringing a mouse pointless.
Adam Bell
Get a crucial 750gb
Juan Collins
Not in my budget lad
Charles Richardson
just bought the crucial lads ama
Brayden Hill
just ordered a t430 with a SSD. which os should i install? win 7, win 10 or debian/ubuntu? i heared about linux being pretty brutal in terms of memory managment, which doesnt go well with ssd's.
Kevin Ross
I don't think it is in terms of memory management, only power (fixable with tlp) otherwise, install gentoo (seriously, up to you what you wish to install since you haven't posted any requirements)
Andrew Robinson
I have installed X220 keyboard into X230 and flashed the BIOS.
The only thing bugging me is that the lower right side of the keyboard has a gap to the palm rest and the right side of keyboard wobbles a bit.
I have sanded the nubs of the keyboard low enough to fit the x220 palmrest, but there's still one nub in front of the TrackPoint buttons which has to be completely sanded off to have it fit to the X230 palmrest.
I am thinking about changing the touchpad cover into the X220 one. The question is:
Does the X220 touchpad cover have a hole for the nub in front of the trackpoint buttons? Does it fit into the X230?
Adam Kelly
Bring a condom so you don't get ass AIDS.
Ethan Martin
It fits.
Owen Stewart
It would be worth it for me, I can't say if it's worth it for you. The X220 with an IPS panel, 16GB of RAM and an SSD or two makes for a fantastic portable.
Josiah Barnes
Amazon, eBay, check seller ratings. Try to get an original Lenovo battery, the Chinese ones suck.
Kevin Miller
W520, T420, X220
Josiah Stewart
The one I found has 4gb of RAM, a 32GB SSD + 320GB HD and a i5 2520m.
Jacob Anderson
Does half the function button still not work is that the purpose of the BIOS flash?
Lincoln Evans
That's fine, everything is upgradable except the CPU.
Jason Smith
Alright then, cheers.
Cameron Rogers
T420 is probably perfect for you at 14 inch.
Nathan Gutierrez
is there a way to open links by tapping the middle trackpoint button on windows? it is the default behaviour on linux.
Easton Walker
Funny thing, i was used to do that on Windows but doesn't work on Linux for me.
trackpoint settings > scrolling > smooth
Blake Phillips
ah thanks it worked. it works by default on xubuntu.
Elijah Roberts
Anyway to get a cheap thinkpad that's almost guaranteed to still have a good battery? I need to make a backup laptop equivalent to my desktop hackintosh, and it needs to have a decent battery.
Dominic Morales
Thanks, just bought an X220 with an i7, 8gigs of ram and a 128gb SSD. Should be here sometime next week.
Was also looking at the T420, but I wanted something on the lighter side of things since my desktop is there for any kind of heavy lifting and I wanted something significantly lighter than this 2010 macbook pro that I've been lugging around.
Michael Ross
Nice, that's similar to my setup. X220, i7-2640M, 16GB RAM, 120GB mSATA SSD, 500GB spinner, and an IPS panel.
Jaxson Ross
Nice. What you paid?
That is suh a nice setup
Caleb Howard
Nice, the one I got also has an IPS display.
299 Euro
Bentley Parker
Fantastic, I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
James Edwards
>significantly lighter than this 2010 macbook pro that I've been lugging around. Jesus christ do you really think that 2,5 kg is heavy?
Aiden Bell
How good is t420 if i want to do android development?
Henry Hughes
>tfw no mechanical keyboard with a clitmouse to use while sitting at my desk
some chink dude's making custom motherboards in his basement. You can pay for them now but they're not shipping for a while.
William Hall
Cheers.
I don't consider it heavy, but I'd still prefer something lighter. I just want something small to carry around and use for almost only light computing, not a mobile workstation.
Aaron Moore
There are a few so dont cry and do your research fucktard Unicomp has an oldschool one Even a 60% Tex yoda
Aaron Baker
My friends dad's Thinkpad Edge (don't know exact model but from the keyboard and power connector it should be about the same age as T430) is fucking beeping, constantly, like what the fuck, if the HDD led activity would actually be a speaker Anyone have any idea why before we take it apart
Landon Ross
Aliums.
Jaxon Phillips
changed the fan of my t410 because of reoccuring fan error, altho i cleaned it a lot of times. Now with the new fan from china, I hear a coil-like whine when the fan is idle. I am pretty sure it wasn't there with the old one. It's driving me nuts, so I tweaked the tpfancontrol.ini to start from level 2, at which i barely hear any whine. Could it be from the chinky fan ? Can I do something more about it.
pic related is the stock fan, drilled it, oiled it with wd40, but it still has one position at which it sticks. I assume in this case it can't be spun around at bootup.
Ryan Nguyen
>oiled it with wd40
Grayson Hernandez
>Could it be from the chinky fan ?
Absolutely.
>Can I do something more about it.
No. Buy better next time.
Thank you come again.
Bentley Brooks
I need a dock for my X1 Carbon what do you recommend Cred Forums
Evan Jones
I recommend you get a ThinkPad that isn't garbage.
Kayden Campbell
About 12 days ago I got a refurbished X240 from an eBay store with nearly 100% positive ratings.
The processor seems to be running consistently faster than necessary. When I first got it I ran a a diagnostic to see how many cycles the battery had gone through and got pic related. The fan was constantly running very loud, and the CPU always seemed to be overheating somewhat. I was recommended TPF control and Lenovo battery utility. Those helped a lot, but I was wondering if there was a way to verify if there's any issues with my processor. I would reset the heatsink with new thermal paste, but if something's off beyond that, I'd maybe want to take advantage of the 60 day warranty.
ALSO: The listing I bought from was incorrect. In some ways this is pleasant. I was given 8GB RAM instead of the specified 4, and an unmentioned 16GB SSD in addition to the HDD, --BUT-- It was listed as having a 1.9Ghz i5-4300U, and it came with a 1.6Ghz i5-4200U. I don't care that much, and don't want to make someone miserable, but I wouldn't mind compensation. Is this worth complaining about?
Michael Lopez
>Those helped a lot, but I was wondering if there was a way to verify if there's any issues with my processor. I would reset the heatsink with new thermal paste, but if something's off beyond that, I'd maybe want to take advantage of the 60 day warranty.
Clean the innards & put on new thermal paste. There's a chance that it was never replaced, and has dried, or they are using thermal pads instead of proper paste.
The CPU is shitty, but the over-utilization is something within the OS, not hardware.
>I don't care that much, and don't want to make someone miserable, but I wouldn't mind compensation. Is this worth complaining about?
Yes. You literally have nothing to lose, and they did not deliver the computer you bought.
Grayson Gonzalez
Now after the BIOS flash practically all the buttons work as they should, except some very minor buttons that I won't use anyway.
Do tell more!
Nicholas Hernandez
thanks,
what would be a good price to look for ? 10$ ?
Noah Gutierrez
I'm taking a cybersecurity course where i will need to use a gnu/linux system and I don't want to bring my xps 15 because it's too big and heavy
I'm thinking an x220 is my best option but I can get an x230 for 70 bucks more
I see the x220 is recommended in the op but not the x230
Any info? Is the speed difference noticeable between 2nd and 3rd generation procs?
Isaiah Cooper
i can get a tablet x200 for $95 right now. is that a steal or am i retarded?
Logan Anderson
nevermind, already pulled the trigger. got it for $90 with battery and charger.
Jonathan Richardson
the x220 has not usb 3.0, unless it has i7. The x230 have ivy bridge processor, and that should mean faster processors. Finally, as far as I know, the x230 changed the 8 row keyboard for the 7 row one, this drives nuts to a lot of guys.
i'd make an offer of like $400 and see what he says back to you. no reason not to haggle a little, may save you a little bit of cash.
Austin King
why the hell do you want a 4:3 thinkpad? most of them have the god awful resolution of 1024x768, or the slightly less bad 1280x1024 Why not just get a t520 with a nice 1080p screen that's better than those ancient ass thinkpads
Daniel White
I'd offer like $350 for it, and take like $400 max I got my w520 with a 2760qm, 1gb ram, quadro 1000m, but no charger for $240. Then for $30 I got 16gb of ram, and for $25 I got a used 170 watt adapter. also if you do get it tell me if it throttles under high cpu and gpu load. My gpu will run at like 95c, and will constantly drop from ~700mhz to ~120mhz for 1/16 of a second and it hurts performance a lot.
Tyler Davis
thanks m8s
Alexander Bailey
Damn, he just made a counteroffer for $449.99. Should I still buy it?
James Long
counter it for $400
Jordan Moore
I did, that was what suggested and I didnt see your post beforehand
Elijah Reyes
$420 (blaze it)?
Evan Butler
Make sure charger works, and make sure the battery doesn't die in 5 minutes unless that was included in the ad.
Dominic Johnson
...
Adam White
He asked for $442
Hudson Nelson
Sup, guys. Can you recommend any systems to use as eGPU? Is such a thing even real? My t420 struggles to play modern indieshit, so I thought about assembling such a system.
Anthony Flores
eh that's up to you I like getting my machines with no ram/charger for half off, then buying those parts for like $50 just build a shitty desktop out of used parts if you want to play games.
Noah Green
My T420 works fine but doesn't have the stock cpu.
Camden Bell
I have practically no space for a desktop, sadly
Juan Morales
if you want to "win" the bid war, settle at $440 even.
anyway, if you really want it and it will suit all your laptop/desktop replacement needs, $440~ isn't bad for the computer imo, but i'm no thinkpad pro either.
Josiah Cruz
I got it for $435
Jackson Jackson
an egpu setup is going to take up more useful space than a desktop
Nicholas Evans
Huh? How so? I imagine it being like a small box with power and expresscard connectors and a pcie slot.
Camden Richardson
So, how much mileage can i get out from a chink t420 battery that ill be getting from ebay? Im sure someone here would be in the same position as me here. Im thinking of getting a 9 cell battery and im running stock unity ubuntu.
Carter Campbell
the box is a lot bigger than you think and for any halfway decent gpu you will need both the power brick for the gpu, and normal desktop psu. vs with a desktop you could build a pretty small matx system, put it on the floor with other stuff on top of it. Then have a monitor, keyboard, and mouse on the desk.
Luke Brooks
anybody here used a Toshiba Tecra? Howd they compare to a thinkpad?
Could get this. I was thinking about getting one and building a box to old it and a modest gpu. Might come in handy when travelling for light gaming.
Anthony Moore
Is there a sort of EPP discount for Dell laptops perhaps?
Easton Campbell
My T400's chink 9 cell has been going almost 2 years now, still getting about 4 hours with wifi on.
Brody Murphy
Will my house burn down if I don't buy a genuine battery and charger?
Carter Lee
No.
Liam Perez
no
unless you buy a blatant counterfeit like a $20 9-cell or a $5 charger
Daniel Ross
The x200 I ordered is missing the digitizer pen. I was planning on ordering one, but I have a Wacom Bamboo tablet. Would that digitizer pen work on the x200?
I suppose I'll find out in a couple days when it gets here, I was just curious if anyone here already knew.
is me.
Gabriel Williams
/TPG/! Need help!
First year of CS, need a good little work book. T400 for a mere $60. The selling factor in this is a Radeon HD 3400 and 120GB SSD. I have a problem. Can I upgrade from 4GB RAM to 8GB? Like shit, this thing seems to be old and I have NEVER gotten into laptop hacking (if that's not clear by now), so I wouldn't know. I read these threads a every 3 days maybe, need help.
Landon Kelly
Are the docks for thinkpads actually useful? I have a 440s if that matters
Bentley Robinson
yes you can
Ryan Mitchell
Help anons, the tablet buttons work just fine but I CANNOT launch a program by holding it down because of this error.
>inb4 win10 I use it on my tablet version pls no bully
Brandon Ramirez
Good deal.
Juan Scott
X230 has better graphics performance, and slightly higher CPU performance. Honestly, you'll be fine with either one.
Noah Gonzalez
I'm thinking about getting my first Thinkpad. I don't know much about computers or anything related but I'm willing to learn. Is this a good deal?
Henry Bailey
>new thinkpads you're doing it wrong, user
Nolan Gonzalez
>new thinkpad >not a t,x, or w/p series hahahahahahaha
Andrew Davis
That isnt even a thinkpad. That seller is just a nigger.
Its a fucking chromebook running windows ffs.
Drink bleach or get a X220 you fucking moron.
Oliver Smith
>Just bought a cheap T420 to replace my old T42 It's like poetry
Daniel Long
It might, but you may want the ThinkPad stylus just for continuity's sake; they're cheap as shit on eBay.
Austin Gonzalez
Yes. Though, for uni, an X201 may serve you better; easier to carry all over.
John Lopez
Yes they are, assuming you'd like to link up with some desk monitors, keyboard, etc. One movement to detach as opposed to replugging everything every time.
Cameron Gray
So I just got back from a laser workshop in my campus and got the idea of laser engraving something into my thinkpad.
Don't even know what it would be though. Ideas?
Brandon Taylor
I feel sick looking at that
Wyatt Gonzalez
I recommend you pick up a used model from eBay. The current crop aren't much better than your average consumer fair. What are you looking to do with your new laptop?
Not a bad idea but I was thinking of something more tech related.
Could always throw my current distro on there I suppose.
David Russell
That sounds cool, but what happens if you change distros?
Hmm, perhaps something related to some music, games, or movies you're confident you'll always love?
Isaac Powell
Good point, I do change distros a lot. I'm not planning on switching off arch for a while on my thinkpad though.
A Tux might be kind of cool.
Ayden Jones
What's the best tablet for digital drawing?
Isaac Walker
As the owner of an x220T, I don't think you'll get a lot of use out of it as a main drawing tablet. It's 16:9 aspect ratio doesn't do it any favors, and the resolution is pretty low. It's a fine machine otherwise.
You MIGHT look at the x201T but I would imagine the wacom accuracy is even worse.
Liam Cooper
I want to buy a T430 on ebay, but I've never bought a refurbished computer before, so I'm worried about how long it'll last even though thinkpads are supposed to be easy to fix/upgrade. Are my concerns justified or is it really not a big deal?
Isaiah Anderson
Which Thinkpad has the best design and functionality?
Hudson Nguyen
What's the best Thinkpad in terms of design and functionality?
Samuel Hughes
It's not a big deal. These are business class laptops, so it isn't like they (well the older ones anyways) are in danger of failing.
Just go through your usual checks, and if something is off, send it back. Don't be a retard about it though.
I'd argue for classic thinkpads, the T420s is something awesome. I've seen the T430s and it's pretty nice.
As far as modern thinkpads go, the only ones really worth buying are the X series. The x250/260 are fine machines.
Alexander Cook
Tux would be pretty sweet, not gonna lie. Just check seller ratings. eBay nearly always sides with the buyer in any dispute, and if a seller has a proven record, they're probably reasonable to deal with.
Ayden Ramirez
Alright, maybe I'll do it. Not anytime soon or anything, since I probably gotta figure out the exact material of the thinkpad and figure out how high i should set the laser so I don't fuck my monitor up or anything.
Will report back if I don't blow anything up in a few weeks.
Lincoln Bennett
The seller does seem very reputable. 100% feedback with 656 ratings and they've sold 79 of these and there's only one left. Guess I'm just being paranoid
Nicholas Miller
Sounds decent to me, I'd say give it a whirl.
Jeremiah Robinson
Sounds cool user, I'm here every damn day, so I'll probably see it if you do.
Angel Morgan
fuck refurbished computers they always carry at least a $100 premium, and on a $200 (normally) laptop it's not worth it. if you get it and it says its working it's going to last for at least 2 years. The hdd might die, but a new one is like $20 and you should be replacing it anyways
Zachary Mitchell
just pulled the trigger. thanks
It's an SSD so I don't need to worry about that. Plus this was the best price I could find for it's specs, refurbished or not
Lincoln Williams
I have doubts, you havent looked enough. unless it's less than $250 it's not worth it and even at $250 it's not worth it.
Robert Cruz
Eh after doing some research it might not be a good idea on the line I have. (X220) It seems to be made of this carbon fiber material, which would mean when cut with the laser cutter would emit a toxic gas.
Jose Young
I thought the X220 Lid was some magnesium alloy, but I'm not certain.
Michael Reyes
Purchased a T410 from a thrift store for about $6. Is it worth buying an SSD and upgrading its current HDD for fast, simple web browsing and document editing?
Out of the ones I saw, it was the best I could find. these are the specs: >T430 >240GB SSD >Win10 64 bit >8GB RAM >i5 3320M 2.6 GHz
Zachary Perez
what's a decent offer? $150?
Caleb Green
$175
Robert Roberts
how much? I got mine for $200 with w10 i5 3320m nvs 5400m 4gb ram and some hdd ssd I threw in there was $20, and the ram was $10.
Samuel Richardson
$279.95
Connor Green
not worth buy one without a hard drive/ram for >$200 and then buy the shit you want used for less than $50
Samuel Williams
What SSD did you get for only $20?
Ian Bailey
brand new you can get a crucial m550 64gb msata drive for $20 if you look on ebay for long enough you'll find something good (like what I have in mine) for like $25 shipped. yeah it's like a 4 year old ssd, but it's 240gb and works perfectly with no smart issues.
Liam Long
The 9 cell battery that came with my t420 only gets like 2 hours out of a full charge. Is the battery just bad, or do I need to change some settings to get better life?
Bentley Sanchez
How do I make my thinkpad go "beep" when I close the lid? Only happens when I'm on windows.
Currently running Arch on my X200.
Ayden Fisher
do you have the 70++ or the 55++ version?
did you buy your thinkpad new?
how many cycles does it have (can view in Lenovo settings if you're on Windows)
Nicholas Phillips
What os, and are you using any power management software? On my t420 I can barely get 4 hours on windows 10 with nothing special turned on but on windows 7 I get 6-10 hours with lenovo power manager. Then in linux it's like 2-3 hours at best, but that's linux the beep should be coming from the bios whenever it goes to sleep so either turn your sound on, or make sure it goes to sleep when you close it
Landon Scott
55++ No, I got it off ebay 119
I'm using Win 7, and I'm using the lenovo power manager.
Nathan Collins
what mode do you have power manager set to?
Jason Hill
It's on maximum battery life, battery stretch is off though.
Daniel Davis
What GNU/Linux should I get one my t450.
Charles Diaz
yeah your battery is fucked (unless it's a 6 cell) what does lenovo power manager say is left (maximum capacity or whatever they call it)
Mason Richardson
*bsd :^)
Andrew Lopez
who here wants improved tpmiddle.exe that doesn't fail when you middle-click and then move the mouse slightly? i just spent 1 hour figuring it out and compiling
Isaiah Hill
that's fucked, I have about 85% of the design capacity on my 55++ with 411 charge cycles
whats your "full charge capacity"? If it's significantly below the design capacity then just get a new battery
Does any anons in this thread have experience with 70++ 9cell battery? It has awful reviews on Lenovo's website
Dylan Jones
if any user wants to do this themselves, comment out the lines Sleep(50); on 222 and 228 of tpmiddle.cpp
How much better battery time t430 have over t420? Is Sandy Bridge so much worse than Ivy in energy consumption? Or maybe there are some other factors too it?
Colton Gonzalez
I am no expert at all. like not even close but people keep saying that they are both fine and it doesnt really matter that much.
so I am just saying what I have read over the month of being here.
Charles Price
well ivy is a bit faster and the intergrated graphics are better on a t430 it wont hurt most people
Adrian Young
does the normal version not work?
Ryder Nelson
it says I'm missing some .dll. I have all the drivers and shit from lenovo's tool too
Grayson Wright
i just bought a thinkpad w530 and i got some battery for the second generation. is that a way that i can hack the firmware on the w530, so i can use the batteries?
all I know is that it is my dream thinkpad. and I have yet to find one that I can afford
Xavier Sanchez
Please someone help!
Jack Rogers
i just bought one with i7 3840qm and k2000m graphics
Owen Lee
Middle mouse button has gone completely fucky on both my work T520 and my shitpostin X220
I'm now using an older model for shitpostin just because the middle button works better and it's only marginally slower
I've tried taking the keyboards out but the rubber dome is there and the middle trackpoint button is there, I don't know, they've become incredibly soft and mushy to the point where you can press them down, but if you don't do it hard enough it doesn't even register. I've even tried swapping the keyboards around, and even just taking out and swapping the middle mouse buttons.
Anything I can add in or do to fix this?
Josiah Turner
how much did you pay? that is a grail you got there. that literally is my dream
Logan Howard
about 600 euro
Nathaniel Mitchell
considering only processor power, is there much difference between a X230 i5 and a T430 i7?
John Butler
How do I go about getting old/retired thinkpads directly from companies?
Josiah Mitchell
>600 euro I've been looking at one for about the same price. Need to get it shipped out to Aus.
Gabriel Kelly
>250mb for a fucking driver >windows cant verify it
fucking shitshow.
Jason Parker
Bump
Don't wanna have to buy a whole new keyboard.
Will probably experiment after work by sticking some paper or blu-tack in to at least make it work when i press it down lightly, even if it makes it mushier
Daniel Evans
I can't help but that's some nice table organization. Really nice and hopefully my setup is like that. I'd probably buy a little case for that GPU though.
Cameron Ross
I have like 30 eGPU setups saved Mine's kinda shitty and I did it just as a hobby anyway, to take on holiday or whatever, as I have a decent desktop at home.
Best thing is to DIY your own wooden case or something.
Josiah Gray
IIRC you have mine saved despite me not using a dGPU.
Adam Martinez
I fell for the meme and bought a T420 i5-2520M. I need to replace the 500Gb hdd (no ssd) with an ssd one, it is easy to do it? I'm a totally noob with hardware changes and it is my first thinkpad
>new Thinkpad only propose ultra low voltage CPU >upgrade to a (dual core) core i7 is more expensive than the price difference looking at ark >x series at $2000+ with no GPU
Is there any reason beside the good keyboard and good Linux compatibility to expect to get a thinkpad as a new laptop?
Robert Morris
how much did you pay?
Ryan White
same as installing the HDD.
Jose Hill
I need to stop buying old laptops.
Jason Carter
About to pull the trigger on a T420. £150. How's that?
Camden Cook
what's the specifications and screen res.
Jordan Anderson
4G RAM, 2.5GHz CPU. The screen res isn't listed.
Jace Stewart
One left after everyone lost their shit in that thread yesterday
Michael Cook
i'd give a £100 for that as it'd most likely be a 1366x768 screen.
Evan Brooks
The only others I can find are damaged to shit, £250, or BIOS locked. Might just do it.
Cameron Brown
275 $
So it should be doable. Thx
Lucas Roberts
>How do I go about getting old/retired thinkpads directly from companies?
nobody can help on this?
Juan Diaz
why did Cred Forums just quoted a different text than the one I wrote?
Jonathan Butler
because you had it highlighted.
FUCKING GERMAN LONG AS FUCK CAPTCHAS I HAVE TO SKIP 5 OF THEM TO GET A NUMBER ONE NOW
Chase Ortiz
anyone has experience with a t460?
Juan Johnson
you looking on ebay, as i bought a T420 with a i3-2370m, 4gb, and 320gb HDD for £100 back in january. and it was near brand new.
William Foster
Yeah I cant find anything decent on ebay. There was a bunch for £130 but they all got bought.
Dominic Ramirez
thought about a X220 or T520? as if there isn't anything you may have to go for that one.
Oliver Russell
So what would be the ideal cpu upgrade for a T420 with a basic i5-2520M? I've read about putting in i7 QMs, but is it really worth it to run something that hot? Is there a particular quad chip that works best with the stock cooling? Is it better to go with a dual core i7-2640M, which is the fastest the T420 was sold with? Am I overthinking the whole thing and should just stick with the 2520?
Blake Howard
stick with the dual core, as i did run a 2630qm in my T420 and while it wasn't hot, you need a custom BIOS so you can disable turbo boost, as at full load quad cores cause a lot of coil whine, and most things on laptops don't really use all the threads, and the high clock speed on the dual cores help more, as i've gone from my 2630qm to a 2540m and haven't noticed any difference in lightroom, and it's not like you're getting better graphics either, and they are expensive CPUs, a 2640m is a better choice as it's got really high core clocks, more cache, and it's still 35w,
Jaxson Anderson
I want to move to SSD's. Is Samsung 850 EVO 250gb a good choice for X220?
Zachary Fisher
as long as it's 2.5 inch, as the mSATA slot is only SATA2.
Jackson Gutierrez
>So what would be the ideal cpu upgrade for a T420 with a basic i5-2520M? i7 2720qm imo, anything past that might be housefire territory.
>but is it really worth it to run something that hot? Mine runs fine and a bit cooler than the 2520m did. However it throttles at 2.9 GHz but i'll take 4 cores at 2.9 GHz over 2 cores at 3.2 GHz any day, pic related.
>Am I overthinking the whole thing and should just stick with the 2520? I'd say stick with the 2520 and upgrade only if you find a crazy deal like i did or you need the horsepower, sometimes i use my T420 for gaymen with an external GPU and it helps.
>you need a custom BIOS so you can disable turbo boost You only need a tweak in Windows Power Manager, and it's not even necessary.
>full load quad cores cause a lot of coil whine >and most things on laptops don't really use all the threads These are true.
Eli Garcia
I just bought my first thinkpad, it's the x220 model. I really hope i'm not getting memed on, because Cred Forums tricked me many times.
Also, I ordered a miniSSD and a samsung 2.5 ssd. Is it better to install the OS on the miniSSD or the samsung 2.5 inch?
Kayden Ramirez
Sure why not.
Get the mSATA version imo, you won't see any noticeable difference between SATA2 and SATA3 plus you can plug a secondary drive in the main HDD slot.
Adam Brooks
Copped
Brody Hernandez
Im running a 2820qm in a t520 with base model heatsink. It gets to 97c without hyper threading running cpuz stress test. With hyperthreading it goes through the roof.
If would say if people want an i7 just get the w520.
i did try the 99% tweak to disable turbo, but it sucks if you want to try and play with linux distros and a custom bios is worth it anything just for the extra thermal settings and to ability to install a 802.11AC card.
Nathaniel James
Mine stops around 92c but it throttles as i said, HT enabled.
>If would say if people want an i7 just get the w520 100% agree with this, unless you're like me and 15.6" is 2big.
You can unlock better memory speeds too, i haven't changed the bios only because i'm on 1.48 and looks like i can't downgrade.
Josiah Peterson
i5/i7 qm(quad core) from 1st to 4th gen are complete house fire no matter how good your fan/cooling or thermal paste.
Justin Gomez
What are we going to move to once the last good thinkpads are too old to be useful? I have an X200 and will probably go to an X220 next but after that, then what?
All the X-series thinkpads after X220 look like garbage. Shiny screens, chiclet keyboards, 16:9 resolution (actually, I'm not overly bothered about that one) and so on. Is there another laptop manufacturer that isn't making these awful design decisions?
Grayson Torres
idk mass suicide maybe
Christian Smith
>bought two broken t400s for $20 >mixed them to make a working one >don't have any use for it It was fun repairing the thing though, which DE should i use for a t400? Going to install Arch i guess.
Adrian Phillips
you can downgrade but it needs to be like 1.40 but it has to be the official BIOS from lenovo, then you can flash the custom bios, as i made the mistake of flashing the latest lenovo bios and had to downgrade.
only good laptops now are dell latitudes, HP Zbooks and macbooks.
Josiah Richardson
Need laptop with i5, 1080p screen. Needs to look ok. Battery doesent matter.
Connor Smith
13 inch rMBP.
Aaron Cruz
Under 600 please
Julian Ramirez
used 13 inch rMBP
Gabriel Hughes
msata of course and 4tb hdd as secondary storage drive for chinese cartoons
Jordan Cox
Id say xfce i like it and its light weight
Wyatt Barnes
All your buttons working?
Eli King
I got new trackpoint buttons for free from a used computer shop.
Oliver Brown
thoughts on 51nb mods?
the x62 sounds like a dream come true
Ryder Wood
but he already did
Carson Butler
Has anyone recently bought a LP125WH2(SL)(T1) screen for the X220? I've been trying to contact eBay vendors but none of them seem to have this particular model in stock
Wyatt Thompson
I just got it and havent had any time to play with. Sofar no problems really only thing is the power button isnt clicking but still works. Any specific questions? I can check for you when I get home
Owen Ross
I've got an x230, and having some screen issues. there's a big black bar down the middle of the screen. Occasionally, it's a static bar, and occasionally it's a white bar. Very rarely, it disappears. Sometimes, I can change the nature of the bar by changing the screen position. Any ideas?
Cooper Morales
Just chiseled my x230's palmrest to finally fit the X220 keyboard.
What did you do to make the keyoard fit? Did you just get an X220T palmrest or did you dremel and chisel the shit out of the nubs and the holes?
Robert Mitchell
i am torn between a x220 and a x230. I usually move big files (films and *.flac), is it worth to have a usb 3 or not?
Adam Miller
yes it's worth it if you move stuff around alot
Elijah Sullivan
For your case yes.
An expresscard usb 3.0 adapter can be used in the x220 though.
Cameron Fisher
Check Amazon.
Carter Myers
Im pretty sure this has been posted a million times before but I need to ask
Last week I got a brand new x230 (you're going to have to take my word on that but yes it's brand new)
I've been thinking of every upgrade I could do to it right now: I already got a 250gb mSata SSD and I have no real need for a second hard drive so I'm honestly not going to be using that slot. I also upgraded to 16gb 1600mhz ram since I couldn't find any higher clock speed ram anywhere (if anyone can point me to the right direction for the highest possible clock speed let me know)
Now I'm looking into upgrading the rest of it. What wireless cards are the absolute best upgrade for these machines? I'm looking for something that can do AC.
Also, is there any speaker upgrades I could do?
If I upgrade to FHD, will I always have that double screen thing in the display properties?
Are there any other upgrades aside from any of the stuff I've mentioned?
Elijah Walker
>x230 >FHD That won't be easy.
Ethan James
>An expresscard usb 3.0 adapter can be used in the x220 though. it's not as fasst as a true usb3.0
Jacob Smith
how's gaming on the t420? just light gaming, dont really play and AAA. alternatively is there a thinkpad that can handle light gamig in the 200-300 range?
Jayden Johnson
use geo-ship, looking trough a single regional ebay is the worst thing you could do
Charles Hall
I picked up the one with a 2.8 i7 and I can run a Nes emulator perfectly and Counter Strike Sources plays well also
Xavier Smith
make my own
Jose Powell
>not naming the pictures filename the GPU + Thinkpad
Aaron Hughes
absolutely haram
Libreboot plus a light distro
Brayden Lee
it's shit but can handle even mid-modern gaming if you use an eGPU
Noah Hall
>tfw someone is still reposting my old shit btw. I can't recommend eGPU setup with x230 anymore. T430 with eGPU is much better, especially with quad core CPU. x230 i7 CPU was choking itself on fallout 4.
Jack Roberts
If I have an x220 with an ISO keyboard, can I buy an ANSI keyboard replacement and just switch out the keyboard or do I also have to modify the bios?
Justin Mitchell
I bought it like this Was suprised seller didnt know anything about the keyboard type
Xavier Morales
You don't have to do anything other than replace it
Brandon Lopez
Yeah, I just googled it. A keyboard is like 30 bucks on ebay and it takes five minutes to replace.
I didn't even get this thing yet and I already love it.
John Scott
Windows 10 on a T42 yay or nay?
Brody Mitchell
I'm looking to get a 500GB MLC-based SSD. Should I get a Crucial MX200 for around $185, or save up to get a Samsung 850 Pro for $299 (possibly less on Black Friday)?
All prices in Canuckbucks
Xavier Peterson
What's the best dock for a t420?
Grayson Walker
chuwi hi12 for portability or a DIY AiO with a craigslist monitor and a chink mini pc with an i3 for more power?
Brayden Ramirez
mini dock series 3
Jayden Butler
So, I am meeting a guy to check his x230, is there any way to test the battery life? I plan to carry my debian bootable usb to see if the bios is locked or not, can I check from there anything the battery life, how much does it heat or any other test?
Adam Cook
Aida64 portable on a USB drive, or any other tool like it probably
Isaac Perry
My X301 has a hard time with Windows 10, if you really mean a T42 and not a T420 then you might be better off with Linux
Gabriel Allen
wtf do you do with the touchpad on e535
Colton Garcia
So, guys, I need your opinion on this, even though the jerks here keep pointing out the rules nobody follows. My friend has a Dell Vostro 15 (3558 or 9) and I need a laptop with next to identical specs. I know this isn't the thread to post this on but I need Cred Forumsooks's opinion on this. >What do I want i3 fourth gen minimum 8gb ram 2gb internal graphics 500gb or 1tb drive botnet 10 pro optical drive + burner >Possible brands Anything except HP. From a guy working in an IT store, every misadventure he had with a laptop was from HP. >Price range 600$
Nolan Hernandez
Bought a x220i decent condition for 100 bongs
Only thing that would do with replacing is they keyboard it is a bit worn
Had a spare ssd with 8gb of ram I popped in and it runs great
I've been using it for 2 weeks and it seems fine for shitposting/media
Why was everyone telling me i made a big mistake?
>Implying I needed an i7 for YouTube and Cred Forums.
Hudson Bell
Why do you guys only talk about poorfag thinkpads?
Aiden Cox
Is there any way to make the nipple faster? It´s already set to the highest sensitivity but I still find it slow.
Carter Rogers
Hello /tpg/, I have a shitty family 2nd hand laptop dying, and was thinking about buying a memepad, problem is I was originally planning to get one for university, but I will only start in 2-3 years. Should I wait and buy in 2-3 years or could it survive like 6-7 years?
Also which one is recommended for a computer science major?
Carson Stewart
lenovo's website when there are big deals. I believe the T460 was around your price range and specs during the week leading up to labor day.
Cooper Watson
Simply accessing the BIOS itself would show you if it's locked. If its running Windows you can run command prompt as administrator and cd to %USERPROFILE%\Desktop and run powercfg -energy
It'll generate a report with the battery info. It'll tell you how much charge the battery is rated to hold vs the last charge hold at 100%
Check for any damage to the chassis, check all ports and make sure the wireless card works as well.
Austin Ramirez
Why do you ask questions like this
Colton Phillips
There-s a gtk application, power status, that tells you the life of the battery.
I will boot debian so I can check all of that. And I have no idea how to use windows, where is the terminal in windows 10? I wont even try. But thanks for the suggestions, I will check all of it!
Logan Cruz
I haven't really been tempted to go past T420 for marginal performance gains (for my workload) at the expense of what I feel to be good design.
Juan Scott
The new ones fucking suck.
Carter Thompson
do they? why? are they no powerful enough, or durable or it is just nostalgia talking? Serious questions
Luis Ward
Honestly, both. Battery life has greatly improved, as build quality greatly decreased; CPU power essentially stagnated till the latest series.
David Flores
I can believe the cpu power stagnation, it is widely known, but the built quality argument is because the new x260, t530 and carbon are less durable or what?
Luis Long
Yeah, much more of the unit is plastic, and it's significantly more difficult to swap components on.
Caleb Bell
did lenovo's thinkpad team ever reeact to those questionnaires we answered last year or whenever about thinkpad users' favourite thinkpad configuration?
Caleb Mitchell
>Battery life has greatly improved Can you get 8 hours of loonixing out them?
Michael Morgan
Nope.
Probably.
Leo Russell
Anyone?
Carson Gutierrez
What OS?
Grayson Lewis
>Visit local chinkmall over the weekend >Entire place is basically dozens of little glass stores selling the same product for slightly different prices >Most electronics stores only sell cellphone accessories that you can get for half the price on eBay but some have used laptops >Walk into first store, beat to shit X201 with missing keys and grime errywhere >$329 >Offer $140, which is generous for this piece of shit >Oriental proprietor starts yelling and screaming about "disrespectful offer" and says "no less than $300"
How do these guys stay in business? Even if their goal is to wait months or years for some sucker to come along, have they never heard of floorplanning or even opportunity cost? And why is it so fucking impossible to get decent Thinkpad deals anywhere but eBay?
Nicholas Brown
CPU power only stagnated on computers with u-series low voltage processors. Full voltage ones are obviously way quicker. My brother's T440p absolutely smokes my T410, whereas the work-supplied X240 could barely nudge ahead.
Chase Cooper
I forgot to take that into account. We only use X series at my job.
Gavin Campbell
Good day, /tpg/. I know it's possible to swap the function of the FN and CTRL keys in the BIOS, but is it possible to physically swap the keys as well?
Isaiah Bennett
Anyone have an x201 on Ubuntu 16.04? I'm having multpile issues with the xserver-xorg-video-Intel drivers and was wondering if anyone else ran into any problems and if so is there a way to fix them short of writing an xorg.conf file.
Gavin Smith
I just tried. I'd say not.
Chase Hughes
Install Arch.
Benjamin Thomas
Thanks, user.
Carter Nguyen
X220 vs X230 Which one to pick? Is the X220 really that much worse than X230? I program in Java for work and do emails and browsing.
Christian Russell
Either is fine, pick the one you like the looks of.
Jayden Cox
But X220 isn't worse than X230, user. X220 is one of the last thinkpads to have non-chiclet keyboards.
Josiah Hall
What would you guys recommend for java programming and the occasional virtual machine? I just need something for class. My desktop is pretty good, but I need something for when there are group assignments so I don't have to sit back and use the lab computers.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
t420, i7 with the nvidia graphics. should be 300 dollars max you can upgrade it with a ssd in 2-3 years.
Mason Sanders
My boss needs a new laptop and asked me to buy one. Thing is, I don't know shit about them.
I saw a t530 with win7 at 400 euros on amazon. Yay or Nay, considering my boss just want a thing that works smooth?
Make sure there are pictures of the actual laptop, I've been screwed on Amazon before.
Andrew Garcia
Compared to à regular laptop bought in à shop at 500 e, is this thinkpad à deal?
Isaac Butler
fairly new to thinkpads & laptops in general
Besides buying cheap knockoff batteries that cost $15 and will murder your whole family in an explosion/fire are there any big things to look out for when buying these? What kind of prices should you expect for a normal 9 cell? Gonna have to buy me an ac adapter for this as well and hope not to under/overpay while still getting something of decent quality
Sebastian Russell
T420 for 250 EUR, or EliteBook 8560p for 220 EUR, specs are the same, the HP has a better screen, I enjoy the look more, and it has a metal body, opinions?
Wyatt Sanders
seems like parts are also available on chink sites, any reason to not go with this over the T420?
Jose Harris
Dear /tpg/,
My t400 motherboard died last week.
What t420 is best t420? I was thinking of, no Nvidia gpu, 1600x900 and perhaps the i5-2540?
Blake Smith
Dear /tpg/ gods Just curious would if be worth upgrading a T420 mb to the nvidia variant?
Ethan Phillips
Yeah looks fine, CPU and everything is upgradeable so pick whatever one is the cheapest.
Not worth it imo, uses more power and the performance increase isn't that much.
Blake Roberts
seriously considering ditching my x201 for a hp 8470p, anyone used any elitebooks with only two buttons before? i had a 3 button 17" one before, and it was great, but i had to ditch it for something less expensive to repair. i want to know if the two button ones can still vertically scroll just as easily by holding both buttons down to simulate a mousewheel click, like some laptops do.
also, anyone know if 14" 1600*900 will feel more or less cramped than 12" 1280*800 in terms of vertical screen real estate? the amount of lines i can put on a screen without squinting is kind of a big deal to me.
Joshua Ramirez
only if you REALLY want to use more than 2 screens off of it. But you should just get something like a cheap used ThinkStation for that.
Nathaniel Jackson
my understanding is that it's not really worth seeking out or paying extra for since if you're going to start doing realass dedicated graphics stuff on a t420 you might as well set up an egpu (and at THAT point jesus christ just get a desktop)
Hunter Moore
>t400 with core 2 duo P8400 running 1080p 10bit cartoons on Antergos with mpv + opengl-hq runs nice >t420 with i7 and NVS running 1080p 10bit cartoons on Windows 7 with mpv + opengl-hq drops frames wait what
Grayson Allen
>thinkpad t420 supposed to arrive tomorrow >SSD and RAM upgrade not arriving until Friday
It'd going to be hard to wait to start using the thing until I can upgrade it. It has no OS preinstalled and I was hoping the SSD would get here sooner.
Zachary Perez
i'm super jazzed mine's coming with a little 64gb msata to get started right out of the box
Julian Anderson
I had the option for that but it would have been more expensive than buying them seperately, probably wasn't worth it.