2016

>2016
>Not a single lightweight, fast, customisable browser with decent addons
What the actual fuck?

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Vivaldi.

The reason those don't exist is because those features are mutually exclusive. Customizability leads to cruft, and, conversely, a lightweight browser achieves that status by sanding off the rough edges (i.e. extensions).

There's a few decent "3rd party" browsers but they mostly just recycle either an antique version of webkit or blink.

You can't have an extension without already having a market share since that comes out of the community so even the 3rd party browsers won't target it.

They tend to come bundled with functionality that is common to most extension users, adblock and vim keybindings, maybe userscripts.

That's good enough for most people if it has support for shit like html5 standards (biggest baddest) and most do not yet.

>lightweight
>fast
>customisable
Pick one.
WWW is too comlicated today for browsers to fit well in all these criterias.

First and best comment

Those tabs look horrible. Any way to make them tolerable?

>lightweight
>fast
>customisable

what if I don't want customizable?

can I just have lightweight and fast?

qutebrowser, maybe elinks lol cant customize graphics

Lightweight and fast browsers are Blink based browsers.

Midori/Epiphany/QupZilla/Chromium

took a look, uses QtWebKit
sorry, no
no webkit, or gecko please

elinks would've been god-tier with javascript support. is there such a thing?

>Midori
>A lightweight browser using the WebKit rendering engine
>Epiphany
using the WebKitGTK+ rendering engine.

I doubt those are lightweight...

Maxthon cloud

uses pyQt5 with qtwebkit, fully hardware accelerated and lightning fast.

There are zero graphical browsers that are neither webkit or gecko so.... no? What you want to avoid are the webkit 1.1 or whatever from 2006 which is in most of the 3rd party browsers (midori)
>god tier with javascript support
You have awful opinions.

>You have awful opinions.
it's not like I want javascript.
it's more a problem of websites not being able to work without it.

and you know it.

>There are zero graphical browsers that are neither webkit or gecko so.... no?

I see, that sucks. (but what about Presto?)

Anyone up for that elinks fork?

>What you want to avoid are the webkit 1.1 or whatever from 2006 which is in most of the 3rd party browsers (midori)

I did not realize that. I'll try that cute browser, thanks.

Actually I lied, I believe Servo has a very very basic proof of concept browser built around it? Might be.... something.

Vivaldi is neither fast or lightweight, kys.

never heard of this, thank you.

You should try GNOME's browser epiphany. ',;)

safari and a content blocker is comfiest browser

>tfw it's been three years since the last good browser died
>tfw SeaMonkey's the best successor but can't even into sidetabs

OP said browser.

When web browsers stopped being about showing content and began to be a "platform" for Web apps, OPs desire became impossible. Modern browsers are now "runtime interpreters" of the web platform. And just the same way as IBM C was (marginally) different from AT&T C, web developers only tested their code on the most popular implementation (first IE5, now Webkit/Blink) with the result that the ONLY BROWSER THAT COULD DO WHAT OP ASKED FOR IS DEAD

>Opera Presto (

Edge

you refute your own argument.
Opera 11 was a perfect "platform" for web shit, including modern HTML5 cringe like canvas.

And yet it was lightweight, fast and customizable.

this af

Well, it seems that Webkit was perfecter-er than Opera Presto.

Still, it's dead, Jim.

Lynx

so much this
if webdevs knew how to do a fucking half decent webpage we wouldnt need more than this

nice shill

Just use wget over mail client as RMS himself does /thread

This, Safari does its best to stay out of your way.

is not fault of the browsers tbqh is fault of bloat due to javascript code artisans

but we can't fix webdevs.
so what do?

it's both.
the platform itself is bloated.
implentations are VERY bloated.

what I don't understand is why nobody is doing anything to fix this...

People either suffer quietly, either out-right PRAISE their browsers. Just look at Cred Forums right now, there is a whole thread dedicated to firefox love.

Why??? You guys like being fucked in the ass???

I dunno, I vocally hate my browser that I can't stop using for awful reasons. I also recommend a lot of 3rd party stuff that is completely unrelated to windows memefox.exe and botnet.

Seriously qutebrowser is lookin' god. All other 3rd party webkit browsers are shit.

>HTTP with SSL
libcurl
>Parsing HTML/XML
libxml
>Parsing CSS
you can write this in 2 days, and you may skip it completely
>Rendering
Just use what you like. SDL, oF, cairo, raw opengl...
>Actual CSS layout
Yes, it's hard, but also irrelevant. Just skip it. Do an outline, like lynx.
>Javascript
There are engines used in embedded devices, that have 1/1000 footprint of big 2 engines.

And done! Come on FOSS folk, do something.

yup, playing around with qutebrowser, I like it

NO. It has inherited the worst part of chrome - no decent ui mod addons possible. E.g no treestyletab, but i guess one can grow fond of stacking tabs?! (Stockholmsyndom)
Also not FOSS - even worse than chrome.
Didnt see better performance than ff, btw.
Needs special libs for codes, what is this piece if junk even doing on Cred Forums .

SeaMonkey is somewhat lightweight, at least compared to other choices. As for extension support, you could use this online script to make FF extensions compatible with SM: addonconverter.fotokraina.com/

Pale Moon is about as lightweight as SM, especially if you use the Atom/XP build. Extension compatibility is considerably better but not 1:1 with Firefox.

this desu. lacks webm support on Cred Forums though.

should i try vivaldi or iridium next?

you mean it lacks webm support, refusing to support completely free and open official web standards that will literally drop into place because microsoft hates humans.

I'm sure that will work out well for you.

Vivaldi's utter shit so Iridium I guess

Iridium, but try also vivaldi to spread the word about its faggotry you must witness it. Its proprietary btw.

>SeaMonkey
>Web-browser, advanced e-mail, newsgroup and feed client, IRC chat, and HTML editing made simple—all your Internet needs in one application.

Built on top of Firefox... Which is already slow and bloated. I don't get it.

Palemoon.
>guerillascripting
>EncryptedWeb (Https everywhere port)
>uBlock origin works
>CanvasBlocker works
>Everything works

SeaMonkey's not built on Firefox, it's a continuation of the Mozilla Application Suite.

>Starting with EdgeHTML 14.14291, the open-source WebM container format and the VP9 video and Opus audio codecs are supported in Microsoft Edge.
Read more at blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2016/04/18/webm-vp9-and-opus-support-in-microsoft-edge/#YZ4lYo1rvx5d8jA2.99

my bad
it's looking good actually

It's been the best browser ever since Opera died. I'd probably have switched to it if it could into side tabs.

Which means they've literally put webm into its DRM support and made it an lower tier than whatever DRM-loaded codecs are paid to work automatically.

>Too libre to live
>EEE

OK, I see 3 contenders for an actual slim browser.
>Qutebrowser
>SeaMonkey
>PaleMoon

Judging by the pitches alone, PaleMoon is the best, as it "purposefully excludes a number of features". That's what I'm talking about.

Going to drive-test all 3 and go on form there.

>chromium
can you you even get extensions in that?

First answer best answer. OP, ignore all those weeb freetards. The only place they should be is in a gas chamber.

Pretty sure most if not all Chrome extensions work for it.

Fuck off, shill.

is there adblock and greasemonkey extensions that work with it?

>being objective
>shill
ayy lmao

>FF vs Chrome - 30 Random sites
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>FF vs Chrome - 11 News sites
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>FF vs Chrome - 40+ Instagram profiles on Windows
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>FF vs Chrome - 40+ Instagram profiles on Arch Linux
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>FF vs Chrome on bad machine (2core/2thread - 2GB RAM)
webmshare.com/play/gBdJb
>FF vs Chrome with uBlock
webmshare.com/play/RAE86

>Vivaldi vs Opera vs Chrome
webmshare.com/play/LX38L

Do you get paid by the hour or by the post?

>He empirically proved my shit browser is indeed shit, better scream shill to replace the need to have a real argument.

Shouldn't you be watching your meme candidate at the debate tonight?

>implying you proved my browser was shit
You didn't even post anything about my browser, dumbass.
>shilling a Chromium web app as a browser
>thinks he's in any position to call others' browsers shit

Holocaust

Qutebrowser is kinda good, but it's always crashed on qt library. I dunno how to fix this, developer told that this is not browser fault, need for wait new qt version pisses me off.

I've never seen that, is it a windows or mac thing maybe?

No one in their right mind gives a shit about a use case like opening 40+ pages at once.

I concur

shill

>lightweight, fast, customisable browser with decent addons
forget that, there isn't ever a good browser nowadays

>bbc
>cnn
>jew york times
>huffington post (lol)
thanks for confirming your kanker status germans

elinks. customize with (non-js) browser scripting, and disable bloat features. use git version.

>lightweight
>customizable
Pick one

Both used to be possible, then Opera went full retard. SeaMonkey's still quite decent though.

Is that copypasta the new meme?
You're not going to load 30+ tabs together. Ever.
Your argument is shit.
Fuck off shill.

I wish Opera open sourced Presto

I'm using Opera's built in adblocker

Pic related, am I missing a good list? Few times some ads slip through

What about Javascript debugger? Which browser does it best?

oprea is owned by the chinese stop using it now

>trusting americans more than the chinese

Infidel!!
Praise the chink overlords!

chrome shills are THIS desperate

>calling me a Chrome shill
Chrome is almost as ass as Vivaldi is.

>Its proprietary btw
Oh no, someone owns something!

I use firefox you dumbass.
Chromium a shit.

well shilled Rajesh!

>shill's buttmad he got called a shill and is now calling everyone shills
Come on now, shill.

t. cuckzilla t/u/mblrtard

I don't use Firefox.

My iPad Retina does not have this problem.

shill harder

>customizable browser with decent addons
>iOS

Says the shill

poo in the loo

>OP wants lightweight
>tell him to use a bloated chromium mod

When the fuck did Cred Forums stop carrying about privacy? I've never seen so many post suggesting chrome.

chromium...

There's a Cred Forums leak that's been getting worse and worse for years, they've become the majority

...

What's wrong with PaleMoon?

It's called "shilling"

I am getting a new computer today (with W10), what browser should I put? Currently on PaleMoon

Use any browser that is based on Chromium and starts with the letter V.

Don't listen to this guy. Just use Firefox or keep using palememe if you really like it.

How does one fix addon icons?

Don't listen to this guy Just use literally anything because it doesn't fucking matter at all; there is no significant difference between modern browsers.

Don't listen to this guyHe's straight out of

Lynx

>not being autistic about browsers means you're from Cred Forums