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I hope to god that LXQt has actual thumbnails in file picker and Wayland support
Isaac Evans
That is a first.
Lucas Green
Why can't I install "webkitgtk2" and "cmake"? They are both in the Extra repository but I keep getting 404:s. Tried changing some mirrors but still can't get them.
Samuel Watson
the picker in kde isn't because of qt, it's specific to kde
lxqt uses the qt file picker, which even even shittier than the (unpatched) gtk one
Cooper Ortiz
Fuck off Linus
Tyler Phillips
I know, the Qt picker has no thumbnails
Kevin Gomez
I'm from yesterday. Decided to clean install Mint 18 and lo and behold, GRUB was for some reason written to another disk that I never chose for anything during installation. It still booted fine but I'm so fucking mad. Now I'm considering going to mint forum and asking for solution or just installing something more serious.
Logan Brooks
what is the most arch-y debian-based distribution?
Grayson Nguyen
Can you suggest me some app like "Acunetix" for Arch? I want to scan my website but w3af wont install on arch
David Allen
Arch itself
Joseph Williams
I would be more inclined to think you chose the wrong one but hey. The support forum is there for a reason, if it is a bug then you should report it so it is fixed. >I might just upgrade to Mint 18 and try to rice it Do you have any idea who riced mint is already?
Hunter Barnes
Did you -Syyu after updating the mirrors?
John Wilson
Define "arch-y". Bloated and broken?
Aaron Bennett
>Bloated Doesn't even come with any Display manager and server. If that's too bloated for you you should call autism help line
>Broken How is Arch more broken than other distros?
Bentley Nguyen
the base doesn't tell anything most distros offer netinstalls that come as bare as arch arch is bloated because the packages are bloated
Hunter Stewart
Didn't go with advanced partitioning route, just chose option "erase everything" or something like that, then chose the drive. If I would chose the wrong drive it would just delete the other drive and I would still have 17.3 and 18.
Ethan Edwards
What he said.
Carter Flores
Bleeding edge & rolling release.
Carter Hall
Debian Sid.
Jeremiah Nelson
>Packages are bloated Nope, Arch doesn't install scrot while installing screenfetch
Are you going to leech on his posts since you don't have anything unique to yourself?
Josiah Wright
>Debian Shid How about stop suggesting SJW distros?
Andrew Price
Debian Sid?
Daniel Perry
You have no idea user. For example, on Debian you have 4 packages: package (the binary), package-dev, package-docs, package-etc. On Arch you have one package that includes everything. That's basically why on Arch you get such a low package count, but a lot more mb than on other distros.
Liam Barnes
arckids will defend this >noobuntu is so bloated
Benjamin Reed
Maybe not, will try.
Adam White
Not only package counts, Arch actually has minimum dependancy line. Minimal KDE doesn't even come with any file manager.
>I have nothing to say, I'll just keep leeching to others' posts Spineless retard
William Collins
That fixed it, thanks.
Anthony Jackson
What is the best lightweight distro for daily use?
Joseph Johnson
The one I'm using.
Joshua James
why doesnt urxvt adopt my .xresources settings - in ubuntu?
i guess it's because of some xrdb issue, does anybody know more? what do ineed to install?
i used arch before but i'm too lazy to install it agian
Kayden Rogers
arch linux
Tyler White
Did you try: xrdb ~/.Xresources ? Any errors? He said lightweight.
Michael White
The one you don't use at the weekend.
Nolan Gonzalez
>le lightweight meme Fucking buzzwords. Who even wants a bloated distro?
How did you install Arch without reading that IMPORTANT AND BOLDLY WRITTEN text?
William Rivera
It is lightweight
MOM CANCEL MY MEETINGS, APT FUCKED UP MY WIRELESS DRIVER AGAIN
Aiden Cruz
>proved in the last thread how debian/ubuntu kernel updates work >still posting that faulty image
What do you get out of it? Do you think that if you post it long enough, eventually some other idiot will believe you and your idiocy will be hidden? Then you'll be able to finally convince yourself that you're not an idiot and move on with your life?
Honestly, I don't even understand how you live your daily life. Since you're predictable, you'll accuse me of being an "udumboo baby", but I'll disprove that right away by signing this:
>faulty image WEW LAD FUCKTARD DEP HANDLING REMVOED MY WIRELESS DRIVER FAGGOT
Nathaniel Miller
>how to keybind my file manager and use drag and drop
Nathan Russell
>Muh systemd is bad XDDD Discarded
Juan Peterson
I guess it's the same guy who made that video about how apt can't remove gnome. Same faulty thing: Removed gnome-core instead of the DE package, and claimed it's apts fault that the DE was still there, lol. Mastertroll.
Jason Phillips
Read the full thing, not the headline, retard.
Nathan Adams
>Mastertroll or just plain stupid
Liam Kelly
no, it didn't
Austin Sanchez
>it's another red team vs blue team episode
Colton Bennett
Why not just mount it with those options?
Jonathan Perry
we need to end the arch meme people fall for it every day >the arch way >lightweight >simple memes arch is the opposite
Robert Rodriguez
...
Thomas Adams
t. ubuntu user
Austin Ramirez
Apt can't uninstall meta package?
Luis Jenkins
It can.
Hudson Collins
gnome-core isn't the DE meta-package, that was the whole problem or trolling, who knows. The full DE meta-package is gnome, gnome-core is a child-meta-package, inside the gnome meta-package, which holds - well - the gnome core. Programs like nautilus etc are not included into the core, but into the package "gnome", so by removing gnome-core, he removed only the gnome-core packages, not the additional programs, shipped witht he DE.
Lincoln Morgan
So gnome includes gnome-core? Won't removing gnome-core remove the packages it installs?
Camden Parker
if someone needs to make a video just for the sole purpose of *proofing* how apt is shit its obviously ebin meming shows the differences of the communities
Daniel Young
Gnome-core was installed in the video, not gnome?
Josiah Ross
>tfw missing uninstall.exe
Cameron Parker
Yes, and which kernel version are you using now after rebooting? Moron.
Adrian Murphy
Was a while since I installed it, and haven't installed that much stuff since the last update. All things except those two I have been able to install.
Jaxon Bell
removing programs on windows was the horror. >bloated registry >uninstaller doesn't remove everything >dead system links >with luck, installs some toolbars and then you need some third party program to remove shit the uninstaller didn't remove and witht said program you get even more toolbars and spyware
windows: uninstall program -> end up with even more installed programs
Asher Sanders
bcmwl is not a kernel
Nicholas Ramirez
>jokes on you, I was just pretending
Aaron Sullivan
What level of autism do you suffer from? Is it severe?
Mason Morris
>toolbars When was this a thing, 1997?
Benjamin Carter
in on kali light on my trusty t60, i hve GCC installed but cannot run it from bash, only at the local folder. how do i edit the $PATH on kali? i dont have a bash_profile file.. yes im new here
Jaxon Perez
No shit retard
Charles Smith
It's a module of a kernel you penis
Oliver Lewis
>installs kali >can't Google how to set path
Aiden Harris
- never say that you run kali or enjoy your memes - create a bash profile file or save it to your bashrc - export PATH=$PATH:~/mystuff - done
Christian Young
yes faggot, you finally figured it out. guess what orphans the module? BCMWL-KERNEL-SOURCE
Noah White
This is a friendly thread.
Brody Young
what the module orphans*
Kevin Lopez
Please avoid using the term “google” as a verb, meaning to search for something on the internet. “Google” is just the name of one particular search engine among others. We suggest to use the term “search the web” or (in some contexts) just “search”. Try to use a search engine that respects your privacy.
Joshua James
What is the best Arch installer? I've used arch-anywhere, but have also heard of others like architect and archbang.
Cooper Jenkins
When you don't need a kernel any more it removes modules and other stuff the old kernel used. Are you really this sense? This was an old kernel and you have installed a newer one which will have your updated module.
Blake Perry
Why do you want to install Arch? It's a meme, don't fall for it.
Luke Hall
if you can't install arch like a real man, go back to ubuntu
Jack Garcia
>Debian Sid >still no update to libtorrent-rasterbar9 so qBittorrent stops crashing >current network-manager has a critical bug that fucks up networking all over the place It has been weeks now, what the fuck are they doing?
Kevin Hill
>like a real man Since when are 12 year old kids real men?
Grayson Hughes
it's auto mounted
Ayden Roberts
The module got bcmwl-kernel-source orphaned and autoremove got rid of it
Hunter Williams
xrdb -merge .Xresources
David Smith
Did you misunderstand what did is?
Jonathan Scott
>using -y You're asking for it.
John Morales
What is the actual value in using zsh and oh my zsh? Is it just for rice or are there actual features that are nice. The only thing I remember it having was better completion
Josiah Richardson
Memes are fun though
Gavin Evans
Architect
Arch is a fine distro with AUR. Fuck off SJW
Alexander Ortiz
>real man
Xavier Green
The AUR is nothing but a wrapper for git. Nothing special here. The only good thing about Arch is the wiki, and that's all. The distro sucks ass.
Looks like you haven't been using gnu+Linux very long my friend
Gabriel Fisher
I give up, you're a complete moron. Come back when you have the first clue what you're talking about.
Cooper Rivera
GIt wrapper is pretty comfy. $packer -S hpn-ssh-git
While other distro makes you hunt down dependencies and wastes your time to install the same thing.
If it was that easy to find all those packages go compile MPC-Qt and post a screenshot
Dominic Nelson
>I just got owned
Jacob Butler
>by Anonymous Coward wow
Matthew Howard
what keyboard shortcuts do you use to jump to different workspaces?
Jayden Young
>if I act stupid enough I might win the argument
Connor Cooper
Not only that :^)
Jace Kelly
So I just installed mint 18 with cinnamon desktop on my laptop. Its the first time im using linux on a my own pc. Any tips to make my transition easier?
Inb4 install gentoo
Samuel Torres
>I got owned and I'll call others stupid 0/10
William Thompson
Nothing, just learn things as you go
Angel Gomez
>Inb4 install gentoo Since you already know, get on with it
Justin Price
>if I shout louder I might win Pity you fail at reason and reading comprehension
Nathan Williams
Russel Coker is not a Debian Dev, you need new stuff.
Lincoln Walker
>owned The other user was quite rightly explaining but you are too pig headed to listen. The package was no longer needed, get over it.
Landon Edwards
>bcmwl-kernel-source was no longer needed >wifi driver was no longer needed wow
Justin Brown
what's a good distro for a production server?
Kevin Rogers
On the community front, he has ported and packaged SELinux for Debian GNU/Linux and now handed off maintenance of the package for Debian stable to fellow Australian, Brian May.
> I do C and C++ programming, package a lot of software for Debian, and do most Unix and network administration tasks.
>I decided that to improve the state of security in Linux this needed to be integrated into the Debian distribution.
Source: The Age
Jackson Hall
>kernel gets updated >old kernel and module get removed Yeah I can see why he have up. I'm not sure why you're having so much trouble with this.
Joseph Peterson
See
Benjamin King
>production server What's that actually supposed to tell me?
Noah Thomas
Yes hun, that is part of the previous kernel package.
Levi Martin
the driver itself has not had any updates recently
Oliver Sullivan
LAMP
Zachary Scott
He's a Debian package maintainer (which pretty much anyone can be) which is not the same as a Debian developer.
Also that image has been posted for weeks (months?) by the same sad guy in every /fglt/ thread I've ever seen, really pathetic.
Levi Rogers
>A package maintainer is not a developer Here let me give you the straw you are grasping for
Aaron Rivera
I don't think that you are going to get this no matter how many times it is explained to you. You were proven wrong about gnome and you have been proven wrong now.
Aaron Martinez
They are completely different things. Also he's not even a Debian maintainer at this time. Who's the one grasping at straws?
Julian Miller
>Proven wrong Lol no, both the module and the driver got removed. Is it so hard to understand, dumb shit?
Also, >Can't remove a meta package lel
David Taylor
>gnome-core isn't the DE meta-package Yes, it is one of the multiple metapackages for GNOME. See this page: packages.debian.org/jessie/gnome-core >This metapackage ... It contains the official “core” modules of the GNOME desktop.
And the "Options" section of this page, which describes each metapackage that can install GNOME: wiki.debian.org/Gnome
Just because it's included in the bigger metapackages doesn't mean it isn't its own.
Also apt is fucking stupid for not having a method to easily uninstall a metapackage without fucking your system.
Cooper Evans
>Who's the one grasping at straws? Here: he's not even a Debian maintainer at this time.
Benjamin Cox
Or you know, you can just not argue and let everyone use what they want. I know I know, I'm naive.
John Rogers
Feels like a manjaro forum in here with such retards.
William Gomez
>lol Im soo 1337 for manjaro
Wyatt Mitchell
so some time last year, i decided to try linux again for a bit, i had ubuntu in dual boot before, but one update fucked me royally. i just couldnt uninstall and reinstall ubuntu again after that. so this time i tried to have a virtual machine. which worked for the most part, aside from a very slow and grueling internet speed. all else was good, until about 4 days latter when i returned home from school one day and i couldnt boot to my pc(to windows). the error code i saw would send me to a rare error in which apparently, the windows partition can be corrupeted if you dual boot linux and windows from the "same" hdd. since then i have had cold feet to try this stunt again, and i feel like if i ever try linux again, i would like to at least have a second hdd. toughts? should i still try linux again? is having windows a sin?
Carter Fisher
Have you been to their forum? It's like the blind leading the blind.
Ryder Reyes
>Decided to clean install Mint 18 and lo and behold, GRUB was for some reason written to another disk that I never chose for anything during installation.
Always install operating systems with all other drives disconnected if you want them untouched. and better yet install them in VMs so you don't have to reboot.
Any PC that isn't junk can run other OS in VMs. Piss on dual and multibooting unless you still run 1999-era CPUs.
Matthew Green
What's a g approved distro that has all the g-tier software like mvp and shit installed by default?
Nathaniel White
What's the best way to get rid of screen tearing nowadays? Still Compton?
Ethan Lopez
*GLAMP
Gavin Garcia
What the fuck is g-tier software?
Julian Diaz
Software that has meme status on Cred Forums, of course.
Asher Price
He's not and never was a Debian developer so that image is factually wrong. Even if a developer were the same (which they are not), he is not currently a maintainer. Basically you're trying to make his opinion seem like the opinion of someone of importance inside the Debian project, which he never was. I would call grasping at straws.
Connor Ramirez
You. Are. Stupid. Sorry but it's the truth. apt does exactly what you tell it to do. Also why are you posting links proofing you wrong? lol
Colton Perry
>shit installed by default having anything installed by default would disqualify it already.
Blake Torres
Well this is a place for beginners to come and ask questions and/or share experiences, so a lot of people are uninformed.
Manjaro is to Arch what Ubuntu is to Debian. They made it simple to install, easy to use, and pretty to look at.
A downside is that it attracts less technically-inclined users. But the upside is that the GNU/Linux community as a whole gets more use and exposure in general. And those people might not have ever used or seen GNU/Linux, if not or Manjaro.
Henry Martin
Windows 10
Gabriel Collins
nigger gnome-core is a meta-package included in the meta-package gnome, is that really so complicated?
Luis Smith
Since your PC is too old and slow to run VMs at decent speed (SSDs make life much nicer) I suggest a second HD.
I used swap racks in my desktop long ago to run a variety of OS on my then-new Celeron 366.
Unplug all other drives when installing. Ignore anyone who suggests otherwise. Just fucking do it and you'll thank me later.
Choose boot drive in BIOS instead of using a bootloader.
If you are so poor you only have one PC you should get gud at scrounging and fixing free discarded PCs. It's easy and you'll soon have many.
Alexander Murphy
>And those people might not have ever used or seen GNU/Linux, if not or Manjaro. That's not an upside. It's not an upside if they have problems and no one is able to help them because everyone else is clueless as well.
Isaiah Diaz
>meta-packages in meta-packages that's too meta for me
Ian Sanchez
>Debian maintainer goes full sjw >Deny and go "he's not a maintainer now" So this is what grasping the straw looks like
He did not say otherwise retard
Caleb Walker
PLEASE IGNORE THE GNOME/KERNEL TROLL, HE HONESTLY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT
Benjamin Foster
>Debian maintainer goes full sjw Where?
Alexander Fisher
How many times will you get owned ITT? :^)
Right there
John Wood
See
Adrian Hughes
Is it possible to mount one device to multiple locations? Like an usb stick for example and i would like to mount it into two user's home directories, but one of them will be mounted as read only and the other one as read write is this possible?
Dominic Turner
rather than an old pc, i actually do have a decent computer. but certainlly the hdd that i have is a piece of shit. i didnt want to have a second computer mainly because i really dont think i need a new one for running linux, but hey, that just might be me being stubborn
Charles Cruz
>owned You know, when it comes to technical facts there alway only one winner: facts. You've been proofen wrong many times, everything that comes back are funny memes without any substance whole playing the guy who doesn't understand how the shit works.
Dominic Williams
Why don't you just try it?
Justin Morgan
All I see is a post from "Anonymous coward".
Lucas Morales
Sorry you proved nothing at all. See
Bentley Stewart
>Debian maintainer goes full sjw Wrong. He isn't a Debian maintainer.
Wyatt Long
"I'm gay." -- Arch Linux Developer
Jaxson Long
See
Colton Rivera
>apt does exactly what you tell it to do I never said it didn't. I said it doesn't have a way to easily uninstall metapackages. >Also why are you posting links proofing you wrong? What do they prove wrong?
If you're saying that apt CAN uninstall metapackages, then you're probably uninformed. When you do >apt remove/purge/autoremove gnome-core NONE of the packages that depend on gnome-core get uninstalled. Solely the tiny
>NONE of the packages that depend on gnome-core get uninstalled Sorry, I meant: >NONE of the packages that gnome-core depends on get uninstalled
Jason Thomas
>gnome-core isn't the DE meta-package, that was the whole problem or trolling, who knows. The full DE meta-package is gnome, gnome-core is a child-meta-package, inside the gnome meta-package, which holds - well - the gnome core. Programs like nautilus etc are not included into the core, but into the package "gnome", so by removing gnome-core, he removed only the gnome-core packages, not the additional programs, shipped witht he DE.
Tyler Morales
kek >thick people are very good at winning arguments because they're too thick to realise they've lost
Gabriel Green
That's why you remove gnome not gnome-core. Problem solved. Jesus.
Alexander Roberts
Contributing.
Ayden Collins
>Pretending apt fucking up is a new thing
Nathan Peterson
Guys please support Arch Women. A group with the intention of resolving possible hurdles for female Arch users.
>Clearly state that driver got removed >"""lolol u lost XDDD""" Debcucks are full cancer
Grayson Jackson
see
Christopher Murphy
Are you retarded? I already responded to that.
>gnome-core isn't the DE meta-package Yes it is. It is one of the multiple available. I'm aware that it's also a "sub-metapackage" within the others.
>so by removing gnome-core, he removed only the gnome-core packages False. All metapackages, including just "gnome" will leave everything installed when you run the command >apt remove/autoremove/purge gnome because of what was previously explained about metapackages marking their dependencies as manually installed. Fucking try to uninstall any metapackage, you autists.
You must be blind: >This happens because metapackage dependencies are marked as MANUALLY installed instead of AUTOMATICALLY. You have to manually uninstall every individual package which was part of the original metapackage.
>There are only two kinds of distributions: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses.
What did he mean by this?
Austin Mitchell
So no matter how many times I say the driver got remvoed, you'll defense is "lol u lost XD"?
Too weak
Easton Robinson
You must be stupid. If you remove gnome-core, yes, everything is marked as manually installed.
But you don't remove gnome-core. There's no reason to remove gnome core. If the user wants to uninstall gnome, he uninstalls gnome.
Imagine how retarded it would be when someone removes gnome-core and then his file manager and torrent client is gnone? See why it works like this?
Gavin Ward
Why did you remove the driver? :^)
Zachary Powell
You're too stupid and stubborn to understand what happened despite being told many times already. Sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting la la la la la la doesn't make you right.
Bentley Jenkins
Because autoremoving shit should not get rid of fucking drivers
What the fuck have you been telling me apart from "lol u lost XD" you mouth breathing braindead fucktard?
Dominic Cooper
Go back user, you have been told my multiple people.
Cooper Perry
>Because autoremoving shit should not get rid of fucking drivers
I'm sorry this happened to you, do you need help?
Matthew Lewis
>"Friendly" GNU/Linux Thread
>you're stupid >you're stupid and also stubborn >no you're stupid :^)
Asher Nguyen
Gonna work on one of my modules in Linux this year, any tips?
David White
Yeah, kill yourself and take you shit package manager with you
Grayson Sanders
Why are you so angry? Please calm down this a FRIENDLY thread.
Owen Collins
Not him, what do you mean?
If I install a package suite, removing the package suite must mean I want the subset packages gone.
If you tell me to get rid of the flower vase, I will get rid of the flower vase and the contents within. What kind of autistic faggot would keep those flowers and throw away the vase only
Lincoln Butler
>comes to Cred Forums for a hug
Alexander Reyes
>Not him This has never been used truthfully.
Luis Gomez
>If the user wants to uninstall gnome, he uninstalls gnome. Holy shit.
That doesn't work because "gnome" IS ALSO A METAPACKAGE. It has all the same problems as gnome-core! Also some people install only gnome-core because they don't want all the extra stuff, so attempting to uninstall "gnome" would result in an error for them.
>Imagine how retarded it would be when someone removes gnome-core and then his file manager and torrent client is gnone? If I uninstall my desktop environment, I expect all of its components to be uninstalled as well, including whatever file manager or torrent client that came with it.
I think it's retarded that uninstalling EITHER "gnome" OR "gnome-core" OR "gnome-desktop-environment" keeps EVERY SINGLE PACKAGE installed, besides the metapackage itself.
If you want to uninstall literally ANY and ALL metapackages, you have to uninstall each dependency individually, since they're all marked as manually-installed.
Jackson Flores
You're right, but gnome-core isn't the package suit of the DE called "GNOME". That's the joke.
Justin Garcia
Any thing else on topic?
Isaac Adams
Can we ban the phrase "lightweight distro" from the thread? When people come into the thread to ask about "lightweight distros" they're talking about the DE in 99% of the cases
Jonathan Lewis
he will never get it, just give up he's obviously trolling hard or simply retarded
Carter Perry
Apart from your master trolling you mean?
Hunter Bailey
Go for it user
Matthew Stewart
Gnome-core is a package suit that installs a list of gnome-softwares.
If a user installs gnome-core, he wanted those list of softwares
If a user removes gnome-core he wants to remove those list of softwares
Am I clear enough?
William Nguyen
hey Cred Forums, how do I connect to the internet? I'm using arch if it matters
what's so cool about arch? >mom look, I copy pasted some commands from the wiki in order to install the famous distro that doesn't have an installer, I'm a hacker now
Zachary Scott
>normie comes to thread >lol whats da best wireless headphone >normie sees the amount of autism ITT >normie gets the fuck out quitely
lmao
Parker Bennett
BSD like ports and the ABS.
Also >Not being able to copy/paste a few commands from the wiki Premium autism
Aaron Phillips
I'm new to Linux, I've tried Ubuntu mate, artegos, and manjaro. All of them had a problem. Ubuntu mate was ugly and not very flexible, artegos had too much bloat and the ui was bad, and manjaro had some bugs like screen tearing and didn't remember my theme settings. Out of all of them I like manjaro the most.
My question is is there a polished distro that isn't buggy and ugly and is similar to manjaro?
Sebastian Rivera
When I did it the first time, I actually was proud of myself.
Cooper Myers
>Screen tearing Install Manjaro GNOME and use the wayland session. You are set
Mason Peterson
How about you fix the screen tearing in manjaro? Distro hopping for the sole purpose of having something where everything works is stupid...
Ethan Hall
>wayland >solution for screen tearing t. newfag
Josiah Brown
> You thought getting my (you) was that easy?
Elijah Howard
That's the whole point of Arch user.
Leo Campbell
Question about Fedora:
When they say that a release is supported/maintained for 13 months, does that mean that packages are getting updated and kept close to upstream? Or is it like Debian Stable where things are frozen and they just get security patches?
I just installed Fedora 24 and noticed that - Firefox was version 47, and it has an update to 49 available - but GNOME is only at 3.20 instead of 3.22 so I'm guessing they keep some things more updated than others? Probably in order to keep things stable? Sorry about all the question marks, I'm just very unsure.
Eli Smith
I've been here since the start tard, watching you embarrass yourself over and over.
Levi Kelly
>making fun of the dead
Blake Reed
Also, people talk about how slow apt is, but holy shit I swear dnf is waaaay slower.
Jose Moore
Holy shit literally chronic denial RIGHT THERE
>It gets removed
>Video showing it did NOT get removed
lol u embarrass yourself
Why are you so much defensive of your garbage package repo/manager?
Elijah Gomez
That's why you should use Arch. Everybody not using Arch doesn't value their time.
Cameron Reyes
People who talk about package manager speed don't know how package managers work. The speed depends on the mirrors you're using and your internet connection.
That's right. Doesn't change the fact that removing gnome-core will only remove gnome-core (and the stuff it includes) NOT the stuff that the package gnome includes such as torrent client, nautilus, etc.
Joshua Ross
friends what do you recommend for when dual booting, choose what to boot into
i have grub on my laptop but i just got a new one and was wondering if it's the best option
can it be configured so that it always boots into os A unless you press something?
Asher Richardson
>gnome-core (and the stuff it includes) >Nautilus isn't included in gnome-core
gnome-core: The GNOME Desktop Environment -- essential components These are the core components of the GNOME Desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop. . This meta-package depends on a basic set of programs, including a file manager, an image viewer, a web browser, a video player and other tools. . It contains the official “core” modules of the GNOME desktop.
gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components This is the GNOME Desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop, with extra components. . This meta-package depends on the standard distribution of the GNOME desktop environment, plus a complete range of plugins and other applications integrating with GNOME and Debian, providing the best possible environment to date.
Jordan Hill
why the fuck do you keep bringing the gnome package whereas clearly everyone is talking about gnome-core?
Asher Barnes
Let's change the topic guys. I can't see this gnome shit anymore.
Jonathan Williams
the other faggot wanted to remove the whole DE, but removed only gnome-core now he claims that apt can't remove gnome, lol
James Flores
That's because he installed gnome-core, not gnome, idiot. Now he wants gnome-core and the packages gnome-core installed GONE
Benjamin Ross
why the hell would he install a sub-meta package of a meta-package? that's not how to maintain a system.
Brody Martinez
That's the joke.
Carter Miller
>Moving goalpost Face it, apt can't remove gnome-core packages
Fellow nigger, even OP said apt can remove gnome-core, his problem was not that apt didn't remove gnome-core, but that apt didn't remove packages that aren't in the gnome-core package. Learn to read retard.
James Butler
Do you no what OP means actually?
Also, Nautilus is in the gnome-core package
Jackson Hernandez
What's the best approach to install Cinnamon on Ubuntu 16.04?
Have something like Ubuntu Gnome as the base (since gnome and cinnamon share some packages) and then install Cinnamon on top through the PPA, or go with the minimal install .iso?
Problem is I'm kind of a noob and have no idea what to do after I'm done with the minimal .iso installation.
Also has anyone tried this? Is cinnamon stable on 16.04 ?
Jaxon Diaz
So when im building source locally,and have nothing to download, the mirrors effect my speed? Nah.
Carter Foster
#apt install cinnamon-core
And no, cinnamon isn't stable in 16.04
Josiah Parker
apt can't remove gnome-core, face it
John Russell
>cinnamon-core Jesus motherfucking christ on the fucking cross. MODS
Hunter Cooper
?
Adam Lopez
people shouldn't install -core packages for obvious reasons, see: this thread
Isaac Perry
How is Linux Mint KDE? It looks nice, isn't as lightweight as other distros, but not too bad. Considering switching from Manjaro to it.
Kevin Bennett
Looks like you haven't installed cinnamon core from the base install before.
It installs a nice preconfigured desktop for you, the thing is you can't remove the desktop without hunting down everything
Ryder Cooper
Don't do it. Mint is the worst distro around. Completly broken and insecure. It may look nice, but under the surface is just horror: lwn.net/Articles/676664/
Mason Howard
This!
Justin Roberts
Someone used FreeNAS sometime? I think is the OS that most will fit me but I don't have any knolwedge on it (beside the basics, I guess)
Grayson Barnes
What's the dankest meme distro? (templeos excluded)
Leo Cruz
The issue is unrelated to whether or not "-core" is used. It's 100% about apt metapackages. gnome-core just happened to be the metapackage highlighted in the original video that started this whole thing like a month ago.
This! is pretty much spam and adds nothing to the thread. You don't need to parrot your mindless support of someone elses opinion.
We had about ~300 logos before the distro actually started.
Hunter Long
>I'll make the logo
Carter Hall
the reason this happens is because apt won't autoremove a package that is recommended by another package, even if that other package was installed --no-recommends. apt does not check how packages were installed when doing autoremove, it just checks if there are any remaining dependencies, including recommended dependencies
GNOME devs recommend every stupid fucking part of GNOME in every package. so if you install, say, libreoffice --no-recommends, you now have a permanent hook by which, say, the accessibility daemon can be recommended and won't be autoremoved
there are many traps like this in debian, the second you start trying to use "not recommended" software you become a second-class citizen and you have to --dry-run every apt command and backtrace what it installs
Benjamin Morales
>last updated 2 years ago
Levi Parker
Made the screenfetch ASCII art. >ftw neofetch doesn't support lo/g/os
It pretty much died when people started working on riceDB (sort of a package-manager for configs). lo/g/os should have been the showcase for it, so riceDB got priority but people lost interest on riceDB and so lo/g/os died with it.
Carson Stewart
Void Linux -- yes or no?
John Rodriguez
Is it FOSS?
Leo Nelson
Def yes, comfy distro for me.
Also bump
Lucas Wright
I'd try it.
Same with Debian: Comes free as in freedom, but nonfree stuff repo, so the FSF woun't list it I guess.
David Perez
*FLOSS
Leo Cox
Then I think it's okay.
Henry Morales
>Void Of packages*
Parker Powell
hahahaha great meme, can I save it?
Cameron Thompson
What DE do you lads use? Just finished installing Arch, I've mainly been using XFCE before but I recently gave Plasma a try and it's pretty damn comfy
Ian Butler
I use gnome-core
Dylan Gutierrez
It's GPL'd
Enjoy your distrolet with les than 8k packages
Luis Jenkins
xfce
Julian Rodriguez
How hard is it to get into driver development for fun? Say, if I wanted to do it with an usb device I'd use something like wireshark to reverse the protocol on a Windows VM or whatever. I know it depends on the complexity of the device but considering a simple one, what kind of skills do I need? I know C and can deal with low memory stuff okayish.
Jackson Bell
Where did this "Arch is difficult to install" meme come from? I'm a complete retard when it comes to Linux and I just dual booted Arch on my Macbook with the help of Arch Anywhere and basic reading skills for the Arch wiki.
Arch Anywhere is pretty much the easiest and fastest installer there is, the only thing I had to do afterwards was to install wireless and touchpad drivers from the AUR because I'm using a Macbook.
Alexander Perez
>tfw i really want Linux, but installing it would render all of my hentai game collection unplayable.
Aiden Sanders
I always end up back on xfce. tried to force myself to use gnome but just can't
Ryan Lewis
What is this alter universe you live in where dual booting and virtual machines don't exist?
Landon Jones
wine or VM w/KVM
Caleb Phillips
>Arch Anywhere wow it's so easy, I only had to use an automated install script
Christopher Jenkins
I doubt hentai games are so graphically intense that he would need GPU passthrough. They'd probably just work in a normal VM.
Liam Scott
Is QEMU/KVM worth setting up to avoid having Windows as a host system?
Jace Myers
Those games run pretty well on Linux.
Jaxon Ortiz
I never said GPU passthrough. KVM and GPU passthough are two different things.
Jason Roberts
even the ones that require me to run in Japanese Applocale as an administrator to work?
Isaiah Bell
I'll indirectly answer your question with a linux command
>qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm
Now, it's gonna look a little more complicated than that in order to install an OS like windows.
keep in mind if you wish to play more demanding games rather than hentai, GPU passthrough with KVM is your only option in a VM.
people in this thread are confusing KVM with GPU passthrough. You can use them both at once but they are two seperate things.
Alexander Ward
What will be your choice for a homeserver? Or maybe a little NAS.
Wyatt Cooper
You don't need the usual Windows-shenanigans to run games on Linux. Instead, you need the Linux-specific ones.
The main difference is that the Linux-ones are less documented.
Connor Torres
I have a few pis for a home server. I'm too lazy for clustering so I have them work individual tasks.
Kevin Price
Is there a reason that every time I open sketchup with wine it also opens sketchups homepage in my browser
Carter Kelly
Ok, is it worth setting up QEMU/KVM with VT-d/IOMMU passthrough?
Jason Murphy
And I'm retarded as fuck.
I forget to say I was asking about OS.
Nicholas Lewis
If you're still the hentai guy and are not running anything more demanding than that, then fuck no.
Easton Wright
Nope, another person. Some games are Windows 10 only, but Windows 10 forcibly restarts itself when it wants to update and I dislike that with a passion.
Nicholas Wilson
>Windows 10 only What?
Henry Rogers
Currently have raspbian but I plan to switch them over to debian because they are servers.
Gavin Allen
I would like to go Debian or CentOS, but I don't like that their stability comes from their old packages not being changed.
What about FreeNAS?
Jace Price
I installed Fedora, and it can't open rar files. So I installed 7zip, and when I right click the rar file, I don't see 7zip listed in any of my programs. Where do I find where 7zip installed to?
Anthony Cox
Do Gpu passthrough, and be careful. Weather it was by fault of me, systemd, or my drivers, after I "activated" GPU passthrough my shit got fucked up. I had to reinstall my distro. Serious graphical glitches.
Eli Ward
Did you switch from Windows recently?
Jack Lee
Dunno, But if you aren't a big fan of their packages, move over to the testing branch.
Bentley Stewart
What combination of processors?
Yeah, Forza 3 is, seen two others that are Windows Store only, and Windows 10 only.
Dylan Miller
I though about that too, but I think that if I move to the testing branch, I don't know what am I choosing Debian.
Am I wrong?
Grayson Stewart
As opposed to every other distro?
Alexander Sullivan
Which Fedora spin did you install? Default with GNOME? Install the "unrar" package to get RAR support (it's not free software, maybe it's not even in their repository). How did you install 7zip?
Levi Brooks
>I don't know what am I choosing Debian. rephrase
Kayden Powell
>What combination of processors? ????
Carson Thompson
-> -> ->
Isaac Wright
GPUs, I was thinking of using an Intel IGP and an Nvidia GPU.
Justin Fisher
ENABLING that something else entirely. You can probably enable that through your motherboard and it will count on your machine as a separate device. Which you can use for linux and you can use your graphics card for windows. I'm lurking in the cross thread if you want to keep talking.
Adrian Anderson
because people doesn't use arch anywhere, they shockingly use arch to install arch