Name one problem that Debian has

ITT: NEETs who use gentoo and arch

>SJW
Opinion discarded.

Yet you are both NEET and virgin

Picture related

There is literally nothing wrong with Debian.

None of those autoremoved packages would have broken the desktop. The actual dist-upgrade probably removed some important X packages or something something similar, and when you're doing a dist-upgrade, you should really double check what your package manager is doing instead of blindly removing half of your system.

kek read the thread again

>dist-upgrade breaking X
Seems like a debian problem to me

fuck off all you bashing debian. been using since 2009 had 0 problems with it. maybe some people don't want candy-ass distros like mint or cuckbuntu, and maybe some people are too lazy to build from source mind you i do love me slackware

You can break any distro with your package manager of choice if you try hard enough. Dist-upgrade won't try to remove most of your system as a first solution. That "bug" is just plain user error.

>make a thread asking for problems with debian
>Starts crying like a butthurt faggot when problems are shown
Debibabbies are amazing at mental gymnastics

Just installed Debian on my desktop and I use it on my server.

Lack of sane package names (lib-thing-2-dev, libthing-2-dev, lib-thing2-dev, so on), the fact that --no-install-recommends is at all needed, and the installer is absolutely god damn broken.

None of these things break the distro in any way though, but they're certainly problems.

>if you try hard enough
is performing a simple fucking upgrade is trying hard? Into the trash debshit goes

You can't encrypt it during installation due to installation wizard bug (not fixed for 2 years)

FOSS philosophy, doesn't install muh wifi drivers

Ehhhh, most of you faggots are fucking noobs @ the internets.
I use linux not because I hate microsoft (believe me, I do, but that's not why), not because I want to be a geek (I am), but because it fits my style. It's so much easier to accomplish things when you have the power of *nix commandline goodies ala GNU tools, etc. As well, I don't have to spend time searching for cracks and shit because /everything/ I use is free and I can build it from source if I need to.
Not only that, but anything I don't like, I can crack open and change, usually without too much difficulty. Linux: The OS is /yours/.
Get the fuck out, all of you. @ OP, unrar-free might work, as well as install rar and using rar x filename. (rar might be in multiverse repos, you should have those enabled anyway)

Here's how it actually went:

>wow 1 package not upgraded? better dist-upgrade instead of waiting for the package maintainer to take a look at it
>wtf it still doesn't want to upgrade it, no i'm not happy with this solution
>1 upgraded, 152 removed, 0 not upgraded? seems good to me
>wtf why did it break, must be the apt-get autoremove, fuck you kde maintainer

>old pc with gts250
>let's install debian
>k.
>download
>install
>notice screen has pixel-panic
>w/e wait
>suprisingly x boots up gnome de
>nice
>open up sjwfox
>look up some ladyboyporn
>fap
>turn computer off
>next day
>gonna troll Cred Forums
>k.
>boot up debian box
>after shell-prompt notice screen has pixel-panic PLUS the ladyboyporn

the fuck?

If you don't call it a debian problem, I'm sorry to tell you how much in denial you really are

It's not redhat based and therfor inferior to Lennart's genius.

Not him, but the firmware and CDs are broken. The installer, even the expert nongui installer, does not ever give you a choice of interface to use, and 99% of the time silently fails to load firmware even when it's correctly placed in a hierarchical order in /firmware on the install media.

There are also extra CDs, and when searching for a package via their search system you'll find that clicking on one leads you to a 404. However, reading the tooltip will tell you which CD is needed so you can wget that, but none of the packages are available since choosing "select packages for install" in the debian installer simply starts the installation after only giving you a choice of kernel version and whether to include security and main sources or not.

Nice try faggot Debian uses the best init system ever made

The last line in that shot says it all.

Outdated packages.

Cred Forums Pass user since October 2016.

>Paying to shitpost
I bet you pay to torrent as well, cuckold

>Pro tip: you can't
[challenge accepted]

...

this is a joke, right?

right?

......right?

Like the rest of Linux, I cannot play Ducktales Remastered on it without using WINE.

Fuck Linux.

no, unfortunately its not
wiki.debian.org/AntiHarassment

fucking womyn have to ruin everything, dont they

Holy shit it's real
wiki.debian.org/AntiHarassment

no joke. this also isn't a joke.

I used it for server (VPS) and desktop and it's great how no frills it is, no shite included and you can strip it down easily.

articles.latimes.com/print/2008/apr/13/opinion/op-solnit13

April 13, 2008|Rebecca Solnit | Rebecca Solnit is the author of many books including "A Field Guide to Getting Lost," "River of Shadows: Eadweard Muybridge and the Technological Wild West" and "Hope in the Dark: Untold Histories, Wild Possibilities." A longer version of this article appears at Tomdispatch.com.

I still don't know why Sallie and I bothered to go to that party in the forest slope above Aspen. The people were all older than us and dull in a distinguished way, old enough that we, at 40-ish, passed as the occasion's young ladies. The house in Colorado was great -- if you like Ralph Lauren-style chalets: a rugged luxury cabin at 9,000 feet, complete with elk antlers, lots of kilims, and a wood-burning stove. We were preparing to leave when our host said, "No, stay a little longer so I can talk to you." He was an imposing man who'd made a lot of money in advertising or something like that.

He kept us waiting while the other guests drifted out into the summer night, and then sat us down at his grainy wood table and said to me, "So? I hear you've written a couple of books."

I replied, "Several, actually."

He said, in the way you encourage your friend's 7-year-old to describe flute practice, "And what are they about?"

They were actually about quite a few different things, the six or seven out by then, but I began to speak only of the most recent on that summer day in 2003, my book on Eadweard Muybridge, the annihilation of time and space and the industrialization of everyday life.

He cut me off soon after I mentioned Muybridge. "And have you heard about the very important Muybridge book that came out this year?"

So caught up was I in my assigned role as ingenue that I was perfectly willing to entertain the possibility that another book on the same subject had come out simultaneously and I'd somehow missed it.

>Debianized versions of software
>no you cant add your software to our repositories, but you can add OUR version of it!

lol fuck debian

Packages from the stone age

It's true, though. Maybe it's not politically correct enough for you? Maybe we should call you woman-challenged instead?

He was already telling me about the very important book -- with that smug look I know so well in a man holding forth, eyes fixed on the fuzzy far horizon of his own authority.

Here, let me just say that my life is well-sprinkled with lovely men, including a long succession of editors who have, since I was young, listened and encouraged and published me; with my infinitely generous younger brother; with splendid male friends. Still, there are these other men too.

So, Mr. Very Important was going on smugly about this book I should have known when Sallie interrupted him to say, "That's her book." Or tried to interrupt him anyway.

But he just continued on his way. She had to say, "That's her book" three or four times before he finally took it in. And then, as if in a 19th century novel, he went ashen. That I was indeed the author of the very important book it turned out he hadn't read, just read about in the New York Times Book Review a few months earlier, so confused the neat categories into which his world was sorted that he was stunned speechless -- for a moment, before he began holding forth again. Being women, we were politely out of earshot before we started laughing.

This
>debian-transmission user
HOLY KEK

>Cred Forums Pass user since October 2016.
Top kek. Is this hiro's doing?

I like incidents of that sort, when forces that are usually so sneaky and hard to point out slither out of the grass and are as obvious as, say, an anaconda that's eaten a cow, or an elephant turd on the carpet.

Yes, it's true that guys like this pick on other men's books, and people of both genders pop up at events to hold forth on irrelevant things and conspiracy theories, but the out-and-out confrontational confidence of the totally ignorant is, in my experience, gendered.

Men explain things to me, and to other women, whether or not they know what they're talking about. Some men. Every woman knows what I mean. It's the presumption that makes it hard, at times, for any woman in any field; that keeps women from speaking up and from being heard when they dare; that crushes young women into silence by indicating, the way harassment on the street does, that this is not their world. It trains us in self-doubt and self-limitation just as it exercises men's unsupported overconfidence.

since4pass

Debian has a problem in that I can't name a single problem.

This is problematic.

This syndrome is something nearly every woman faces every day, within herself too, a belief in her superfluity, an invitation to silence, one from which a fairly nice career as a writer (with a lot of research and facts correctly deployed) has not entirely freed me. After all, there was a moment there when I was willing to believe Mr. Very Important and his overweening confidence over my more shaky certainty.

More extreme versions of this syndrome exist in, for example, those Islamic countries where women's testimony has no legal standing; so that a woman can't testify that she was raped without a male witness to counter the male rapist. Which there rarely is.

Credibility is a basic survival tool. When I was very young and just beginning to get what feminism was about and why it was necessary, I had a boyfriend whose uncle was a nuclear physicist. One Christmas, he was telling -- as though it were a light and amusing subject -- how a neighbor's wife in his suburban bomb-making community had come running out of her house naked in the middle of the night screaming that her husband was trying to kill her. How, I asked the physicist, did you know that he wasn't trying to kill her? He explained, patiently, that they were respectable middle-class people. Therefore, her-husband-trying-to-kill-her was simply not a credible explanation for why she was fleeing the house yelling that her husband was trying to kill her. That she was crazy, on the other hand....

apy-get is shit, no rolling release and no aur.

nice outdated packages

Even getting a restraining order -- a fairly new legal tool -- requires acquiring the credibility to convince the courts that some guy is a menace and then getting the cops to enforce it. Restraining orders often don't work anyway. Violence is one way to silence people, to deny their voice and their credibility, to assert your right to control over their right to exist. About three women a day are murdered by spouses or ex-spouses in this country. It's a leading cause of death among pregnant women in the U.S. At the heart of the struggle of feminism to give rape, date rape, marital rape, domestic violence and workplace sexual harassment legal standing as crimes has been the necessity of making women credible and audible.

I tend to believe that women acquired the status of human beings when these kinds of acts started to be taken seriously, when the big things that stop us and kill us were addressed legally from the mid-1970s on; well after my birth, that is. And for anyone about to argue that workplace sexual violence isn't a life-or-death issue, remember that Marine Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach, age 20, was apparently killed by another Marine in December while she was waiting to testify that he allegedly raped her twice. The burned remains of her body and her fetus were found in the fire pit in his backyard in January, and he was arrested last week in Mexico. Being told that, categorically, he knows what he's talking about and she doesn't, however minor a part of any given conversation, perpetuates the ugliness of this world. Several years ago, I objected to the behavior of a couple of men, only to be told on both occasions that the incidents hadn't happened at all as I said they had, that I was subjective, delusional, overwrought, dishonest -- in a nutshell, female.

>no rolling release
The fuck are you on about?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian
>The Debian testing and unstable branches are rolling release and eventually become the stable distribution after development and testing. Packages are first uploaded to unstable, from which they migrate to testing. When testing is mature enough it becomes stable

yes i'm sure the 20 year old installer is completely broken and it's nothing to do with you

Most of my life, I would have doubted myself and backed down. Having public standing as a writer of history has helped me stand my ground, but few women get that boost, and billions of women are out there on this 6-billion-person planet being told that they are not reliable witnesses to their own lives, that the truth is not their property, now or ever. This goes way beyond Men Explaining Things, but it's part of the same archipelago of arrogance.

Men explain things to me, still. And no man has ever apologized for explaining, wrongly, things that I know and they don't. Not yet, but according to the actuarial tables, I may have another 40-something years to live, more or less, so it could happen. Though I'm not holding my breath.

A few years after the idiot in Aspen, I was in Berlin giving a talk when a writer friend invited me to a dinner that included a male translator and three women a little younger than me who would remain deferential and mostly silent throughout the meal. Perhaps the translator was peeved that I insisted on playing a modest role in the conversation, but when I said something about how Women Strike for Peace, the extraordinary, little-known antinuclear and antiwar group founded in 1961, helped bring down the communist-hunting House Committee on Un-American Activities, Mr. Very Important II sneered at me. The House committee, he insisted, no longer existed in the early 1960s and, anyway, no women's group played such a role in its downfall. His scorn was so withering, his confidence so aggressive, that arguing with him seemed a scary exercise in futility and an invitation to more insult.

branches =/= debian

Doesn't have GDCM library in testing repository.

I had written a book that drew from primary documents and interviews about Women Strike for Peace. But explaining men still assume that I am, in some sort of obscene impregnation metaphor, an empty vessel to be filled with their wisdom and knowledge. A Freudian would claim to know what they have and I lack, but intelligence is not situated in the crotch -- even if you can write one of Virginia Woolf's long mellifluous musical sentences about the subtle subjugation of women in the snow with your willie. Back in my hotel room, I Googled a bit and found that Eric Bentley in his definitive history of the House Committee on Un-American Activities credits Women Strike for Peace with "striking the crucial blow in the fall of HUAC's Bastille." In the early 1960s.

Dude, if you're reading this, you're a carbuncle on the face of humanity and an obstacle to civilization. Feel the shame.

The battle with Men Who Explain Things has trampled many women -- of my generation, of the up-and-coming generation we need so badly, here and in Pakistan and Bolivia and Java, not to mention the countless women who came before me and were not allowed into the laboratory, or the library, or the conversation, or the revolution, or even the category called human.

It is

Besides most of its (non-core) maintainers being a joke?

After all, Women Strike for Peace was founded by women who were tired of making the coffee and doing the typing and not having any voice or decision-making role in the antinuclear movement of the 1950s. Most women fight wars on two fronts, one for whatever the putative topic is and one simply for the right to speak, to have ideas, to be acknowledged to be in possession of facts and truths, to have value, to be a human being. Things have certainly gotten better, but this war won't end in my lifetime. I'm still fighting it, for myself certainly, but also for all those younger women who have something to say, in the hope that they will get to say it.

I think this woman just needs some dick in her cooch, amirite guys?

I mean the real question is why not just use Arch? It does everything Debian does, better.

The fact that you don't just have one installer is wrong.

Did any of these members of the Anti-Harassment team ever contributed to coding, art, translation or anything?

And let us not forget that the "Deb" in "Debian" stands for "Debra".

True the installer is a piece of shit, always has been

Ghosts of tranny cums past.

katamari is amazing, just like systemd

and debian

Yes of course

systemd and a nonfunctional package manager

i've used debian for almost a decade
breaks my heart, but i have to move on
the future is here

Fucking PASTA! Did you not think we would Google?

You are not the cunt concerned, as such a person would not be on Cred Forums, or use pasta.

Is there a debian heroes I can sign up for?

Like I btfo cuckservatives and alt-right babbies on the reg rn and get no credit at all.

I'm just posting it because it's pretty funny to read.

Calm your DDD sized tits, dawg. Can I motorboat you?

>what is debian sid

tldr Cred Forums's distro of choice must be easily installed over mom's wifi

To be honest technology was a lot better when programming was limited to neckbeards with huge intelligence and real scientists. Today programming is made by liberals with huge egos and "social" scientists.

found the feminist

not xir but who cares, everyone knows it's affirmative action, when the zeitgeist changes in a year and SJWs can't coast on the feminist label all the #girlswhocode who aren't worth a shit will be cut loose

>Ugly as fuck default UI
>Horrendous font rendering
>SystemD
>Doesn't support non-pae CPUs
>No MPV on official repos

Lack of good software support that non-GNU/Linux people use

SJW programmers only make webapps for normalfags. All meaningful computing and programming is still done by men.

Women and boipucci can't resist a cushy sit at home/office job.

Too bad for them, all the work is being outsourced to chinks and pajeets

debian has the best CPU support of any OS ever, and ubuntu/freetype fonts are in the official distro, rest of your points are autism

>MPV
>girlslaughing.peengee

I run it on my laptops with non pae CPUs. You have to use an alternate ISO, like basically all distros at this point.

>allowing users to opt out of systemd
Not even trying to be a serious distro mate. Fedora is the only distro worth using.

This

Complicated repository system. Hard to get every package you want because you have to dick with ppas, and testing vs unstable pinning and what not.

I like debian for what it is, but I just prefer arch's repository system.

The number one reason I wanted to use debian was the logo. It's the best logo in linux hands down.

I think it popped up when Murdoch passed.

Anybody have the screencaps where the feminazis were already trying to change the name of debian to something else?

Fuck man. Debian is a crown jewel of Linux. Let the man have his mark on history and be remembered for his most important contribution to computing.

It's Linux.

No drivers for recent hardware. As in, did not boot at all on my new computer when I tried it while fedora did.

systemd

Fuck off

you losers really need to learn to step away from your shitboxes before forming an opinion

Yeah, Debian really picked up the social justice aspect just about a year ago.

You're a fucking dumbass and I wish you kept your retarded, uneducated opinions to yourself.

WTF?
I'm a legit demigirl and I came to this thread just to say that the only thing wrong with debian is systemd.

>googled kode with karlie

jesus christ it is like a forced cocktail inoculation of political correctness i am so tired of this shit.

What's wrong with systemd again?

its not bloated NEET code therefore its unacceptable

...

apt

yeah it's bloated pajeet code

Well, systemd certainly covers more ground that it used to. It's not just an init system anymore, but the basic userspace building block to build an OS from, but they carefully make sure to keep most of the features optional. You can turn a lot off at compile time, and even more at runtime. Thus you can choose freely how much feature creeping you want.

It's like when hippies started crying about logind "removing" udev. Funny thing that they didn't know is: logind configs are all #disabled by default. It's your choice whether to enable parts of it

>>what is debian sid
A buggy piece of shit

apt

Slow piece of shit garbage package manager

are you supposed to use sid or testing for latest packages?

systemd

Fuck off

Buzz lightyear is a faggot

it's for servers bro. but centos is still better than debian for that.

I use testing.

If you still need something newer than that, you can make a package yourself by compiling source and using dpkg to install. It's trivial. For the most part, the stuff in testing is fine, and anything really all that crucial, like security patches, gets pushed out in a timely way.

Stable is kind of ancient though.

I use Ubuntu for servers because then you can have the same thing on your laptop as on your VPS.

lol why tho

>I use testing.
>and anything really all that crucial, like security patches, gets pushed out in a timely way.
nope:
debian.org/security/faq#testing
debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch10.en.html#s-security-support-testing

Easy:
>Outdated-as-fuck packages with no easy way to get more up-to-date versions (especially if you don't want EVERYTHING to be bleeding edge, but only some packages of your choice)
>No easy way to customize packages (different build flags, adding local patches, etc.)

I stopped using debian about a month after I started, for these two reasons. Have been using Gentoo for many years ever since and it does not have these problems.

Good question.

Debian summarized:

>Break package X by compiling it aginst a different ABI version than they link it against
>Package X incldues a check for ABI version mismatch and fail gracefully in that case
>Users complain on the debian bug tracker
>Debian responds by commenting out this check, instead of actually fixing the ABI breakage

All the software from yesterday, today!

>Users willing to take advantage of this
>support should add the following lines to their
>/etc/apt/sources.list (instead of the lines
>described in Execute a security update,
>Section 4.2):

deb security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free
# This line makes it possible to donwload source packages too
deb-src security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free

It's like you didn't even read your own post.

Yeah, there are going to be bugs. It's testing. And yes, it will be less secure than Stable. Any bleeding edge distro suffers from this. However, critical bugs, and in particular critical security bugs, are given higher priority, and patches are pushed out in a timely fashion. If you want protection from 0 days, I hate to break it to you but there is none.

name one concrete package where that happened.

in reality Fedora and Debian are the main distros that actually do the ground work for major transitions, see gcc5:
wiki.debian.org/GCC5

...

Never understood the appeal of Debian, tbqh. >Stable
CentOS is better supported for most tasks.
>Testing
More unstable than Fedora.
>Sid
More unstable than Rawhide.

I just don't get why people use binary distros other than Fedora or Arch.

i think you do not understand debian releases.
if you want bleeding edge and timely security updates, you should use unstable not testing.
debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-choosing

This:
>cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
doesn't work. Otherwise, I would use Debian. Instead I use Lubuntu.

CentOS doesn't even get timely security updates when there's a new point release of RHEL.
wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General#head-cea9337e6513cc1567c4d05afbd693f1f7038ccb
>The goal for release of a new point release or update set is four to eight weeks after the release by upstream.
this disqualifies it from any production use.

are you really saying you'd compile your entire server from source. elaborate.

I think you don't:
>If security or stability are at all important for you: install stable. period. This is the most preferred way.

Yes, minor security issues are NOT addressed in testing, just like minor bugs can sit there for a while. If something is really, REALLY bothering you, you can just patch it yourself. It's not that hard. Patching is very easy. For CRITICAL security issues, patches are pushed from DTST though, so you are spreading misinformation.

If you want a system where using apt-get upgrade is a dice roll, go with unstable. If you want a system where you can just see apt-listchanges and other tools upon an update to see if something is going to break and what to do, use testing. Both are less secure than stable. Bleeding edge software is ALWAYS less stable. It comes with the territory.

If she thinks Women ending the HUAC and giving the Hollywood commies free reign is an accomplishment then yes.

bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=831537

>For CRITICAL security issues, patches are pushed from DTST though, so you are spreading misinformation.
take CVE-2015-7547 for example.
stable and unstable got the fix asap. testing had it days later due to automatic delay from unstable.

>Bleeding edge software is ALWAYS less stable.
nope, Debian stable has X.org segfaulting here:
bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762809
and that's a wontfix bug.

is this pasta?

>had it days later
Oh, what a shame. Must have been really tough, waiting for someone else to send you that patch you could have done yourself if it was all that important.

>There is a segfault, hence the entire channel is less stable

Sure smells like cherries in here.

If you like unstable more, good on you. I explained why there are advantages to instead running testing. If you like being that stereotype where you upgrade into an unbootable system, good on you. Claiming that testing does not get security patches, and does not get them in a timely manner is demonstrably false, even according to the things you posted.

Again, since you seem to be a special kind of stupid, I will reiterate:

>If security or stability are at all important for you: install stable. period. This is the most preferred way

Unstable is more secure than testing in the same way that swimming in a maelstrom is safer with a snorkel. You get patches a couple of days, or maybe a few weeks later AT THE LATEST. If you can't wait that long, you can patch the issue yourself and submit it to DTST.

You would be a complete fool to think you are using any type of secure system when you are on a development channel though. On ANY OS or distro. You don't get a huge security benefit, but you DO get a huge stability loss and unpredictable system state by running unstable.

>this disqualifies it from any production use
Top jej lad, CentOS is used in production by thousands of businesses. Debian is a non-entity by comparison.

>nope, Debian stable has X.org segfaulting here:
>bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762809
>and that's a wontfix bug.

umm
That's tagged as fixed-upstream, not wontfix?

google runs debian

Owned by NSA.

We actually run Ubuntu.

In case you actually are a Google employee, do people there actually use Goobuntu? Is it even still a thing?

It's Ubuntu with very minimal modification. Calling it some unique Google Ubuntu spin would be over-selling it quite a bit.

flaw 1: they dont audit software for stability, they just wait for bug reports and assume the program is fine if it doesn't get any. and then when the bugs come and patches are backported, it's too late, because serious exploits are secretly disseminated before they're publically disclosed, or exploited before debian users can get the backports. since the software is often outdated, it has fewer users than the new version further weakening this system.
flaw 2: they fuck with upstream's work and add their own patches. at one point, this broke openssl.
flaw 3: two extra dependency levels called 'extra bullshit' and 'holy fuck nobody needs this garbage' are enabled by default. sorry, i thought this was linux, a server OS, not a normie desktop system.
flaw 4: poetteringware adoption in the name of normie desktops. why is a small minority of do-nothing hobbyists dictating distro policy? "muh gnome", yeah, fuck off. if i wanted systemd on a server i'd use centOS.
flaw 5: an operating system that is "universal" is a jack of all trades and a master of none. in a bad way.

decent pasta

no PPAs

What's wrong with that?

>he works with unity every day
How do you stay sane?

I'll admit it put me off for a while, but within a week I was used to it.

1: True of all software in the sense it is true of Debian (trivially true), and in a more precise way it is false, since "auditing for stability" is the same thing as "testing." Other distros do not do more testing on the software than Debian, and both only rarely (but Debian more so than most) do more than upstream. I know you read the HN tidbit about Debian that shat on it in favor of rolling release, but considering at any point in time you can assume there are bugs you don't know about (imperfect information), the reasoning is quite flawed (it relies on the assumption of perfect information).

2: Most distros do this, and more often than not it's a good thing.

3: >REEEEEEEEE

4: >REEEEEEEE
You can't name one thing wrong with systemd that isn't based off of your idiotic conspiracy theories and dogmatic adherence to a design philosophy you do not understand.

5: >in a bad way
Sure, if you think that value judgments without basis have any weight. Because that's what you just did. In a bad way.

The whole point of modularity, which is what Debian does, is that you can custom fit it to your needs, take out the bits that you don't want or need, and use or add the ones you do. If you think that someone not tailor-fitting their OS project to your idiotic use-case and instead making it more general is somehow being a jack of all trades, master of none, then I think the issue is one of entitlement rather than a problem with the OS.

tl;dr - your dum and have zero issues that hold up under scrutiny

half of Cred Forums uses arch or gentoo

Most of neo/g/ uses Windows. Ubuntu is the most used Linux distro. Arch is a close second though.

what the fuck. mpv IS on the official repo. I had installed it
packages.debian.org/jessie/mpv

It is

Exactly. So if you want the most stable distro ever, you get Debian.

Now get the fuck

It has no games

>neo/g/
Cred Forums has always predominately used Windows, you newfuck

Neither does your mom, but that never stopped her from meeting the needs of the general public

It has lots of games you plebian.

>systemd
>apt-get

>calling the package manager apt-get
Sure seems like an informed opinion to me!

Tell me more about how systemd is a conspiracy by the intelligence community under the control of the "globalist bankers."

I'm sure you have some enlightening insights to offer.

>woman and man
>not gender-neutral people
triggered.

insanity only shows when i try to super+w on my friends windows 10 machines.

He's right tho.

that disgusting font rendering

>very minimal modification

What this guy said.

Only real mods are integration with internal systems (management tools, authentication etc), and removal of the Amazon botnet shit.

SJW's

systemd

also now that they killed that guy it is an NSA botnet

it's fixed in a new major version, which won't go to Jessie. you have to use unsupported backports to get it.

just follow the money.
Red Hat is paying for the systemd development.
The United States Army is Red Hat's biggest costumer and Red Hat is thus a military contractor.
It's very likely that military contractors are obliged to put in backdoors for the intelligence community.

Not Arch.

/thread

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systemd confirmed botnet

Red Hat is openly acknowledging that their crypto is tainted:
fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#Cryptography

ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Tin-Foil-Hat-by-Justin-Bauer-/231564831606

Do you have problems in reading comprehension?

Botnet = systemd. It's almost the prototype of 'how to make people use your botnet.'

Show me the source code of the spyware

Red Hat openly says that they are missing out on crypto and just looking at their bug-tracker you can clearly see how they stonewalled modern EC-crypto for YEARS.
bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=319901

cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=systemd

Are you trolling?
>Description of problem:

the openssl 0.9.8b package doesn't support the 'ec' and 'ecparam' commands
though the 'man ec' and 'man ecparam' describe them.

>Status
Closed errata

>systemd
>pants-on-head retarded package management
>having to dig half a hour for a nonfree netinstall disk image
>not rolling release
>no sane management of multiversion packages (update-alternatives is a giant turd)
Still better than a gazillion of debian-based shit though; but not for long, given their SJW """""maintainers""""".

>Gives a CVE list of all known systemd bugs
>Not a single spyware bug let alone one that leads to the NSA

0/10 try again

Please learn to read:
1. Red Hat removed modern crypto from their openssl package
2. After YEARS of stonewalling they added it back

3. they poisoned it so you're NSA bait

phk.freebsd.dk/_downloads/FOSDEM_2014.pdf

And?

Oh
>3. some tinfoil coming out of my ass

im black but the author is a racist dick (glad he died, lol).

you realize the harder you pajeet in this thread, the more people will distrust your botnet don't you?

>Cntrl+F systemd
>0

hehehehehe

No, the harder tinfoil you pull up from your ass the more people laugh at you.

this.

search for BOYS and apply to systemd

>apply to systemd
Why?

>people
pajeets aren't people though

BOYS is describing NSA SOP for FOSS projects.
systemd is FOSS.

>Have no argument left
>lol pajeet
Sure, convinced me at least

I have been asking you how does systemd connect to the NSA? Is there any proof you have instead of some tinfoil shit?

Like a backdoor that connects to a specific set of IP or shit?

Too far behind in software updates.

>argument
It's a fact pajeet. You're a dirty poo in loo and we can tell.

It cannot protect me from the radioactive demolition derby of our own solar system.

>Typical Cred Forums kiddies' response when they are out of water

If you use the same lame shill grafix every time we can tell you're a pajeet even more easily.

Poor pajeet only has space on his drive for a dozen jpgs.

>we
lol, I know you very well, NEET third worlder

>NEET third worlder
Yes pretending I'm the pajeet will really throw those innocent people reading this thread off.

AMD Zen actually supports hardware accelerated RAM encryption.

Struck a nerve, didn't I?

Look I am not interested to know why you are still unemployed. I just want a simple solid proof that systemd is an NSA spyware

but like any modern CPU it comes with NSA backdoors, which makes it pointless.

Oh plus the "NSA backdoor" that you are so afraid of.

Honestly, I am not sure how you are posting in Cred Forums if you are so worried about the NSA...

>Intel
>not a botnet
pick one

This

Once you bring tinfoil to the table everything is a botnet.

>tinfoil
What's tinfoil about an Intel-curated Wikipedia page where they lay out the botnet for you in plain English?

ancient software.

we have actual Snowden leaks which proof that such projects do exist.
you look very retarded if you don't believe in them because they are missing the minute details for every instance.

Not more than other distros
Download .deb to USB, dpkg -i
Windows 7 is worse, doesn't ship with usb3 eth or WiFi drivers
1-?
2- No, it's good. What do you mean? Does it install too many packages?
3- too vague, it's fucking perfect
4- not an argument
5- what are non-free repos
6- not an argument
I managed to do it without any problems.
>what is Debian sid
>much bugs
Yes, that's what happens when you run bleeding-edge software. Non-NEETs don't have time for that, that's why any sane person runs Ubuntu LTS/Debian stable/Devuan stable
Has it affected the actual distro? No? Not an argument.
>what is devuan
Not an argument
You can't just throw any shit in the repos, it has to work together with the rest of the software. There's a reason Tails uses Debian.
Wrong.
Doesn't affect quality apparently
Yes, if you're a NEET. But then you might as well install gentoo.
Devuan
Literally nothing wrong with apt
Xfce is the best DE
Devuan
"""Programmers"""
I actually like web development, it's a nice place to store the SJWs
The fuck you on about? PPAs are Ubuntu.
Devuan
>problem
No
No
Devuan
You compile your server from source with the bare minimum of packages needed, statically link everything. Shit like coreutils can be removed. In fact, you could just replace /bin/init with the desired software.
That's why Tails uses it?
Not employed.
Devuan
It's perfect.
No
>what is sid

Now, let's try again:
Name one problem that Debian has.
Pro tip: you can't

So anything popular is a botnet? wow
How is it like living under a rock?

>1366x768
>burrito language
B U I L D W A L L P A C O
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Let's try again
1. Retarded repo structure with no -meta flag
2. Shit dependancy management
3. Slow, dumb and too verbose package manager
4. SJW philosophy
5. Pretentious freetard philosophy
6. Period blood logo, made with photoshop

>That's why Tails uses it?
Yes trust this shadily funded secret keeping OS anons, it uses the US Navy's (you know the guys who run the NSA) TOR technology which keeps you safe from the government.

>anything popular is a botnet

>I'm going to be retarded and pretend some things aren't botnet by pretending all things are?

What kind of drugs are you on exactly? Antidepressants?

The Fedora installer sucks shit

So what are you implying? Everything is a botnet?

Give up using computers

Obama was born in '61, Kenya wasn't a republic until '64.

I wouldn't expect anything less of a Naruto fan shitposting on a pseudo-threaded chinese cartoon forum

>Everything is a botnet?
Basically everything. Some things excepted.

Didn't you read the news any time since Snowden was a thing?

read this pajeet:

Why are you posting here?

1. Vague. What do you mean by retarded?
2. Vague. It installs more dependencies than arch by default, but that's intended.
3. It's not slow, I don't know what you mean by dumb (unless you mean point 2), it's as verbose as pacman
4. This doesn't affect the distro itself.
5. They separate the non-free software, it's still there.
6. Non-issue.
Tor is safe, Tor browser has some minor backdoors. It's apparent that Tails is run by the riseup people, and they're trustworthy. Tor browser is sandboxed. They're open with from where they get their funding.

>5. Pretentious freetard philosophy
Debian is the only major distro which ignores software patents.
For example Ubuntu (licensing mp3 instead tho), Fedora and openSUSE don't.

>Tor is safe
no

>Tor browser has some minor backdoors
minor? its default config is retardedly bad and firefox is pure botnet, not confident the tails people have the ability to detect and remove all botnet features from it

>It's apparent that Tails is run by the riseup people, and they're trustworthy.
Yes Soros-backed shills are trustworthy.

>It's apparent that Tails is run by the riseup people, and they're trustworthy
Tails is some outdated frozen Debian stable w/o security updates.
You can just check Debian's security tracker for entries after the Tails release and you get your free backdoors.

Literally no -meta flag to identify meta packages
like plasma-meta, kde-applications-meta

It is slow
fusion809.github.io/comparison-of-package-managers/

>verbosity
A simple install/update commands of apt takes ~100 lines

Look at how the alphabet soup agencies implement backdoors. Look at signal. A perfectly cryptographically secure protocol, and a flawed client. Any backdoor accusations can be deflected with >but look at the encryption. Same goes for Tor.
They use apparmor, Tor Browser only has access to one directory
Riseup isn't soros-backed, they're part of the left that hasn't fallen for the idpol meme (like /leftypol/ on fu-llchan)
Updates pretty rapidly, you don't know what you're talking about.
Those are extremely minor issues.

>Riseup isn't soros-backed
Riseup is literally a Soros apparatus.

>Look at how the alphabet soup agencies implement backdoors. Look at signal. A perfectly cryptographically secure protocol, and a flawed client. Any backdoor accusations can be deflected with >but look at the encryption. Same goes for Tor.
They like deniability, but I believe they will use any and all technical tricks they can, after all a good security hole's just a bug in some hasty code, right? RIGHT?

>They use apparmor, Tor Browser only has access to one directory
on a systemd infected system you can't be sure of this

Proofs? Riseup has existed since 1999.
Signal sends your metadata to Google and reuqires a phone number, because it should be "normie-friendly"
SystemD is unfortunate, but apparmor is kernel.

You can use Debian sid with sysvinit instead of systemd.

It's unstable as all fuck even on the vanilla stable branch.

>Riseup has existed since 1999.
Soros has been active in the political sphere since WWII user.

Proofs were obtained in relation to Riseup's relationships to Black Lives Matter which were adequately covered in the media last fall. You can Yahoo! it yourself.

>Signal sends your metadata to Google and reuqires a phone number, because it should be "normie-friendly"
yep
>SystemD is unfortunate, but apparmor is kernel.
I don't trust the kernel either, it is fucking enormous now.

>You can use Debian sid with sysvinit instead of systemd.
I already do user.

It's Linux

Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is not Linux
debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/

Can't find anything on Soros/BLM and riseup.
Why doesn't someone build the kernel and strip out all the shit, producing something similar in size to 2.6?

>Why doesn't someone build the kernel and strip out all the shit, producing something similar in size to 2.6?
my penis just twitched user
sadly the butt fuckers are going 64 bit only probably because the bulky kernel will soon require more than 4GB ram
Linux is doomed, the embedded market's already moved on and the only things keeping it alive now are Google, Redhat, and the NSA. It's OK though, I think it peaked over a decade ago as you obviously do too.

It's also dead

Shit tier font rendering. Other than that... nope.

>Proofs were obtained in relation to Riseup's relationships to Black Lives Matter
>hippie activists are related to other hippie activists, it's a fucking conspiracy!
Holy fuck you're retarded. Kill yourself, and I honestly mean it.

Ohh looks like I touched a commie nerve here.

You will never get your basic income, Bernout.

>get 3000 year old "stable" packages that don't even work because they're so old they're full of glitches
>want new packages? install a whole new OS like a winfag, or wait 10 more years for slightly new packages like a cuck

Debian was lefty since the very beginning. The Debian Women program for example is more than 12 years old.

Autism: The post

see Cred Forums? for years you're making arch a meme, now you know what is the real meme

Installing it on a dual boot uefi setup screwed up with GRUB installation

I don't get it

this user implying that this user is an anime fan (naruto particularly) hence he take his distro as choice based on its logo and then joined a discussion on Cred Forums (which is implied as a forum built for anime fans) without understanding or having a the knowledge required to comprehend the topic

It's linux