My Samsung 850 EVO won't boot anymore. It's 15 months and it appears to be dead. Nothing will boot and I can't access it at all.
I have Linux and Win7 recovery CDs so how would one go about recovering data off a drive? I have some important shit on it that I haven't backed up in a while... hope none of it is fucked too much.
I remember in the past I used Recuva but I'm not sure if that's the best thing now...
Zachary Hill
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Jackson Lee
>using the shitty version of the 950 Pro Laughing emoji 100 emoji Ok hand emoji
Logan Morgan
Dead SSD is equal to lost data. Dead HDD is possibly partly restorable data.
Xavier Stewart
It was less expensive.
Anyway, how do I recover data off it? I have my whole project on it and the backup is 2 months old. I need to get this sorted out quick...
Anthony Lee
The Apple Macbook Pro with Retina Display doesn't have this problem.
Ryder Russell
if it doesn't show up in fdisk/bios then the only possibility of recovery is sending it off to a professional
if it does show up in fdisk/bios use dd to make a clone of the drive and use testdisk/photorec (linux) or recuva
ssds can fail gracefully if it's not the controller to crap out, hdds can fail mechanically and cause irrecoverable data loss (broken arm)
get the fuck out of here with your disinformation
Isaac Johnson
>testdisk/photorec (linux/windows**)
Isaac Jackson
>EVO TOP KEK. Blame yourself for buying meme TLC drive you retard. hahahaha
Nathaniel Howard
Have you ever seen controller dying from any other reason than bad design (overheating, mechanical damage, frying)? SSD "controller" is just an ARM CPU. HDDs are MUCH more fragile, since they're mechanical. But they can indeed fail when you buy TLC trash for poor subhumans like OP. You fucked up and you asked for it. Next time get Intel SSD.
Dominic Kelly
>Dead SSD is equal to lost data. WHAT? tell me your'e lying! If that's true, I'm completely and utterly fucked. I might as well give up on everything.
Carson Ortiz
No faggot, dead controller is equal to lost data. If something else failed (like a fuse) you can fix it. By the way enjoy being cucked by Samshit TLC drive. Hahahhahahahaha
Joshua Evans
>15 months You got a 5 year warranty. Get a new one free.
Oliver Scott
there are two kinds of people, those who make backups and those who will make backups You asked for it, cuck
Bentley Cooper
I'm most likely going to buy the 850 Pro later, but thanks to OP will rethink my decision
Adam Morris
Pro >>>>>>> EVO trash Pro is a MLC drive, EVO is TLC. TLC is trash that should be purged with Intel Optane technology.
Grayson Morales
b8, but anyways my 850 Pro 500gb is going strong 16.4TB later.
Jack Jackson
>I'm most likely going to buy the 850 Pro later, but thanks to OP will rethink my decision You should rethink your decision to go with an SSD. If SSD dies, you can't recover your data at all.
Zachary Collins
You recover the data from your backups, dummy : ^ )
Evan Gonzalez
Would you recommend it? OP seriously got me a little unsettled. Apparently Samsung have some problems with their SSD's, but I couldn't find any buyers remorese for the 850 Pro specefic.
What better alternative is there? Also, this
Gavin Walker
as said, if disk don't show on BIOS then odds says it's fucked as the ammount a professional will charge you to recover that is way higher than a new disk and the time needed to remake the lost data (i say remake if it's just downloaded shit and such, sensible/not backed data is lost as you're not restoring it). You could try it in different sata ports or thru USB under the OS if by luck you can access it, but don't get any hope.
Also, you're lucky it didn't burst into flames or explode being a samsung product...
Jose Gray
Best AHCI PCI-E SSD is what?
Carson King
Probably has a samsung ssd tho.
Mason Sullivan
wtf I hate SSDs now
Mason Davis
No user, it's a problem with TLC drives, not MLC ones. TLC are the cheapest ones with highest failure rate due to very limited write cycles (1000 per cell). This means one or two years of normal usage and then corruption. MLC drives are fine (Samshit Pro)
Anthony Howard
>Pro >>>>>>> EVO trash >Pro is a MLC drive, EVO is TLC. TLC is trash that should be purged with Intel Optane technology. Elaborate more please, Im finally giving up mechanical drives, what do I need to know? Ive found out that they make shit drives with poor write times cause plebs dont check it. thats the tldr on mlc and tlc?
Aiden Cruz
MLC cell can be writted 3000 times TLC cell can be writted 1000 times SLC cell can be writted 100000 times Verdict: avoid TLC drives, because they'll wear pretty quickly.
Jackson Johnson
I've never heard any problems with Samsung drives. In fact, I thought they were the most reliable?
Jaxson Gray
what the fug I was about to buy a samsung ssd, evo something this morning.. shit user you saved me
Are slc drives stupid expensive?
Austin Jones
SSDs are great to work from, but not reliable for long term storage. Use an SSD for everyday, but make regular backups to reliable media (spinny disk, tape).
All spinny drives fail, but they give you a ton of warning first, and data is often recoverable after they go bad.
SSDs don't give any warning when they die.
Christopher Richardson
>Are slc drives stupid expensive? Yes and you probably can't use one because they're almost all SAS.
Caleb Edwards
bought 850 regular a few months ago... how much time should I give it before I start concerning/worrying over a fail.....
Joshua Howard
>SSDs don't give any warning when they die. HOLY SHIT!
Fuck SSDs man.
Alexander Allen
user, Did you have Windows installed on that SSD?.
You shouldn't have bought a Samshit H/drive, user.
Ian White
12 months or so...
Jonathan Young
...
Levi Wilson
> make regular backups to reliable media This. Especially when Windows Updates can come and fuck you in the ass.
Xavier Morris
>2016 >not using f2fs >not using 3D SLC type memory.
Benjamin Ortiz
>I have some important shit on it that I haven't backed up in a while.. This is what you deserve
Elijah Flores
Pirate R-Studio or Active@ UNDELETE if your PC can detect the drive.
Xavier Wood
>Dead HDD is possibly partly restorable data. Nope. Dead HDD is also dead. Unless you're confusing block decay with “death”
Jordan Cox
i'm not so knowledgeable about drives could you tell me about the "warning" signs that HDDs give before breaking? i'm worried one of mine is dying soon and i have no money to buy a backup drive right now
Angel Allen
>HDDs are MUCH more fragile, since they're mechanical. HDDs can fail from being shouted at
Cooper Long
>SAS Im just getting back uptodate on all this shit, I have something that looks like the far left if thats what youre talking about.
Charles Torres
Pro /= EVO. you're fine
if you care about your data, make backups. Doesn't matter what storage technology you use, it will fail
Tyler Barnes
While we're on the topic I keep booting into busybox or emergency mode on Linux mint and having to repair file systems with fsck. Is this a hardware issue? Should I just move on from my dell and get a thinkpad now?
Joshua Robinson
>Also, you're lucky it didn't burst into flames or explode being a samsung product... Right, because an SSD contains a lightium ion battery
Saying Samsung is shit because they make shitty phones is like saying the german newspapers are shit because Bild exists
Xavier Ross
Intel enterprise drives are the most reliable. If you need to use them for high-reliability server storage and will be heavily loading them, don't settle for less.
Samsung's Pro series SSDs are a reasonable alternative for consumers or smaller businesses
Anything else is shit
Brandon Walker
your drive's dying. replace it.
Josiah Nguyen
>SSDs don't give any warning when they die. If you ignore SMART
Blake Williams
>Right, because an SSD contains a lightium ion battery washing machines contain lithium batteries? news to me!
fucking shill.
Easton Stewart
How sure are you?
>replace it
I might just get a thinkpad instead, machine is ~4 years old. However I want something I can do OpenGl projects on and I don't recall thinkpad having very good graphics support. Tips?
Jaxon Thompson
>Texas woman she was probably washing nitroglycerin
also, >right, because an SSD contains moving parts
Gavin Nelson
>I don't recall thinkpad having very good graphics support. Tips? Get something with an nvidia graphics card, they make the only usable OpenGL drivers
Brody Lopez
Well first of all, you start hearing a clicking sound, that's usually a sign that a moving part of the disk is having problems
Zachary Lewis
Thanks. I'll keep that in mind
Michael Adams
>washing machines contain lithium batteries? What if lithium batters is the secret ingredient in all samsung products?
Leo Parker
And this is why you don't buy SSD's; the controllers die without a warning, unlike on HDD's.
Nolan Johnson
fuck my pc makes a constant clicking noise pretty sure it's just one of my fans being loose (not the screws) any more signs?
James Myers
If they run out of writable blocks (old age death), SMART monitoring works great. But I've also seen them go from no warnings & no problems to dead overnight.
Spinny drives start throwing SMART errors, and spamming dmesg, weeks or even months before they die.
Grayson Young
>Spinny drives start throwing SMART errors, and spamming dmesg, weeks or even months before they die. Very large-scale studies by google and others have confirmed that the SMART errors are essentially useless for determining hard drive failure
Your hard drive might throw smart errors for years before dying, and it might die suddenly and without warning. Both happen very often in practice.
SMART errors are basically useless as hard drive life indicators
Logan King
Well shit like data corruption, BSODs, bad sectors, problems in basics tasks like copying files etc
Jack Foster
Any single drive can fail immediately. The only defence is backup.
Cameron Murphy
>Any single drive can fail immediately. The only defence is backup.
yeah, but in 90% of the cases, you can recover data from spinning platters. SSD are completely dead and cannot be recovered by any means.
Joseph Carter
Im confused, samsung said they were the best! Whos drive do you get paid to tell me to use? Let me know so I can buy it!
Aaron Cox
I tried to hot plug my 850 evo and now it says it's "ATA locked"
how do I get into it?
Cameron Cox
Intel, user. These are the only stable SSDs used in corporate environments (like server applications). Everything else is (almost) only consumer grade shit. Trust Intel, user.
Benjamin Watson
If you don't take backups you're a legit retard
Joseph Brooks
True.
I just think it isn't worth the trouble to go through the tedious process of recovering from platters when a backup can just be restored to another drive.
Caleb Lopez
>All spinny drives fail, but they sometimes give you a ton of warning first There are a number of ways HDDs, and SSDs, can fail and they range from plenty of warning and recoverability to sudden and everything is fucked. There is no single general method of failure.
Backups are something you should always be doing, regardless of your drive of choice.
Which reminds me, I still need to setup my backups.
William Stewart
SSD is for binaries and short term storage, user. Why did you put long term storage on it?
Lucas Morgan
There's plenty. I got slow down over the course of a year. I also only had a game and OS with redist. env. and all sorts of programming languages anyway.
Anthony Morgan
>Trust Intel, user. Thanks, Intel sales rep.
Christopher Hall
How easy is it to backup on Windows? I have two drives that I want to backup to an external drive. I barely do anything so I will backup monthly just in case something happens and I lose all my Steam games and shit.
Wyatt Gutierrez
how is this even a question >yes windows is bad at copying files to another drive
Ryder Perry
Nice triples, faggot. Don't forget to transfer some kudos to my account.
Gabriel Bell
Well it is
Jeremiah Brooks
>I barely do anything so I will backup monthly just in case something happens and I lose all my Steam games and shit. Steam itself has a facility for backing up your game data. For anything else that's just directories, just copy them. Or set up something like an rsync scheduled task.
Samuel Gomez
I don't care about saves so much, I know that they do it automatically.
Can I copy all the content of the drives to the external? Just in case I have to dig through later and choose out some files here and there.
Luke Edwards
>gookshit is awful crap what a surprise@!!!!
Austin Miller
I don't have any SSD drives because I keep reading about fail rates. An Intel SSD 240 gb is double the price of the Samshit 850 EVO. I believe you about those Intel SSD's being reliable.
Those Samshit SSD's are not good value for money, whereas the Intel SSD's are because of their reliability.
But at the same time......a regular SATA drive that costs £100/$100 will have 1 or 2 TB of Storage.
Juan Cooper
>Just in case I have to dig through later and choose out some files here and there. Pretty much. You can just copy your entire Steam directory from PC to PC. Some games put their config stuff, saves and junk in My Docs though.
Christopher Wright
Yea I noticed that as well. I wish that it didn't do that.
Cooper Rivera
the 840 was the one with a faulty controller
but that only lowered the r/w speed
dunno what factory guarantee the 850s have but the 950s get 5 years
Nolan Sanders
Here's what I am thinking of doing.
Have my boot drive as Windows only as I can and every once in a while create a system image from it. Set up an rsync to periodically backup my user directory and directories on my second drive.
Isaiah Long
C an I have an Intel promo code plox? I'm a long time Intel customer :))
Jason Bell
>dunno what factory guarantee the 850s My 850 pro is 5 years.
Ryder Hughes
Same! When I get an SSD I want to make it boot only, and certain applications.
My 1TB Blue will store all my games
And my 4TB Green will store movies, shows, porn, and ISOs and shit like that.
Dylan Hernandez
When did you get yours? I bought my 850 Pro last week and it has a 10 year warranty
Hudson Campbell
my 1tb 850 evo is at 100% health and is expected to live another 8 years or something according to SSD Life. 8 years is long enough for me i would have grown out video games by then
Logan Clark
>using the shitty version of the 950 Pro
you mean the shitty version of the 850pro.
the 950pro is the m.2 version.
Juan Robinson
>my 1tb 850 evo is at 100% health and is expected to live another 8 years or something according to SSD Life. 8 years is long enough for me i would have grown out video games by then Mine was a t100% before it died as well. These numbers are fucking bullshit.
Jace Parker
No, that's not SAS.
Daniel Lewis
Fuck, now I have to check the box again.
You're right. My bad. It's 10 years.
Hudson Wilson
That is u.2. M.2's cousin.
Isaiah Gray
Perhaps because the user installed freebsd on it and rsyncs every 2 hours to his raid 10 nas? >is there a GPL timemachine equivalent?
Justin Brooks
my two 128 GB 850 Pros are at 98% health and will live another 100 years or so based on rewrite cycles alone (let alone spare blocks)