/pmp/ personal music player general This thread is for the discussion portable mp3/FLAC/OGG Vorbis players. >inb4 phone
Useful Guide(s) • The General /pmp/ Guide has been updated again, thanks to your efforts → spit.mixtape.moe/view/fefcb363 • Converting an iPod video 5G/5.5G to a rockboxed player with an msata SSD and a 3000 mAh battery nullvoid.station.moe/Freedom-Hardware/Video5G-Rockbox/ • Third party battery guide iflash.xyz/3rd-party-extended-battery-guide/Guide for iPod 6G/7G needs adding/making • Rockbox 3.14 released, significant battery increase compared to 3.13. The battery increase was from the cpu scaling patches, which has been available on dev builds for a (long) while. • Reminder to use Rockbox DEV builds when available. • Use the SonyNWDestTool to remove the volume limiter/warnings on most of the Walkman series rockbox.org/wiki/SonyNWDestTool
Just picked up a 30GB 5G video, should I install rockbox on the hard drive and use until it dies or go for the sd card mod straight away?
Jonathan Russell
depends whether you have 30 or more gigabytes of music to put on it.
Levi Gonzalez
Can someone tell me why you wouldn't just use your phone
Nathaniel Williams
He was an hero to us all.
Mason Bell
Not right now. Is there a performance advantage in the sd card?
Wyatt Gray
I've been enjoying my MZ-N70! I got a windows xp virtual machine on my laptop so i can use sonic stage, and it's a whole lot nicer than real-time recording and manually labeling tracks.
Jayden Thomas
ah the good ol days...
lel that brings back memories
Jacob Bell
iRiver e10 reporting in
Parker Rodriguez
i have this thing but i dont have the charger so i have never tried to use it.
Kevin Garcia
It's faster and wastes less battery iirc
Kevin Evans
How's the durability of the Clip Zip been for everyone? I've had mine since 2012 and last year some of the buttons stopped working properly. They don't always register button presses the first time I try. Anyone else had this happen?
Ryan Rogers
Plenue D is almost perfect if not for shitty sorting algorithm and no gapless for m4a
Colton Adams
I hate your shitty general but +1 for the ancient meme
Landon Rivera
Mainly because my headphones won't properly work with me phone, but they do with my pmp. Also more battery life for music and my phone. I would at least check battery life and decide to maybe get a new one. You will need a thicker back case for the full mod. I have one and battery died and went with only the battery mod since I don't need that much space (v0 is fine since Its transcoded from lossless). I do have some flacs on it but because I think the particular album deserves it. That may be repaired depending on what is happening there. I assume it took a hit from the floor, right? 6 years is good, my 3ds has 7 years in it and I had to repair it like once, my ipod classic has like 10 years or so and only had to repair it once because of my crazy ex It does seem nice my friend, can it become wearable? Seems like it could.
Isaiah Ortiz
>That may be repaired depending on what is happening there. I assume it took a hit from the floor, right?
No, it's not really damaged in any way. It's just some kind of wear due to use, I think. The buttons still have the clicky feel when pressed.
Samuel Parker
It might just be dirty
Noah Hernandez
Yeah, and if it is just wear that also is fixed easy
Camden Brown
Who /rockbox/ here?
Aaron Wilson
>and only had to repair it once because of my crazy ex Are you the same user from the last thread?
Nicholas Kelly
Yes I am.
Jackson Powell
I am checking prices of used ipods everyday so eventually I'll find a good deal. Is it difficul to open and replace battery/add storage?
Nathaniel Barnes
The hardest part's opening the case and that just takes a little work with a spudger
Adrian Lee
It really depends on the model. 1st through 4th are easy, 5th is a bit hard, and the "classic" generations are harder.
Easton Martinez
I'm mainly looking for >5th gen so well ok thanks, I guess a little patience should do the job
Dylan Wood
> Is it difficul to open and replace battery/add storage? Depends on the model. Some are just kinda hard and some are extremely hard. Generally, the newer the harder. Nanos aren't worth it.
iPod mini is the only one that can truly be called easy iirc
Carter Sanders
Cayin N5 is the best, two SD card slots and looks damn smart.
Luke Perez
Because if some negro steals my phone he won't get my music and vice versa
Oliver Parker
too expensive
Jacob Wilson
Not that hard, be careful and patient. Mostly be careful. I just changed a battery on a 5th gen one
Also, what are the benefits of installing rockbox in it? Besides flac and such, I mean, I'm kinda used to the interface (more than 10 years) and haven't bothered with rb, but I see its shilled a lot
Zachary Kelly
I saw a refurbished one with a new battery at like 70 on eBay the other day, parts4pods or something like that was the seller. You could also check on third world countries for one, since they usually sell it for less (I paid 20 for a full functional one when I went to Colombia, still works just fine).
And no, be careful and maybe watch a tutorial on YouTube. When they say it's hard, it's because it's easier to fuck it up. Buy the battery packs with tools and you will be set
Zachary Lee
looks cheap and chinky
Brody Anderson
>better eq >video playback >foss >doom & other games (even a couple of emulators) >ricing the list goes on
Nicholas Ross
that seriously looks like something from the '90s, I love it.
Aiden Scott
Are there any crypto implementations for securely storing passwords on a Rockboxed device?
Juan Murphy
Not that I remember
Nolan Gonzalez
fixed your ipod yet?
Levi Collins
just out of interest, why would you need this functionality?
Ryder Collins
Yes, I got an used one locally for cheap and replaced the screen. Not in perfect condition, but it doesn't bother me that much. Costed me like $15. Thanks
Nicholas Long
Does it consume much more battery than stock firmware?
Ayden Wright
I love her so much, but I am thinking of getting a ipod classic, wat do? What are the benefits?
Evan Baker
Rockbox and better battery life
Jonathan Reed
Good evening.
Justin Johnson
...
Joshua Roberts
How does it fit in your pocket? It's so big!
Kevin Reyes
Have it on my scp, thankfully it dual boots because I got fed up with its shit so I just end up booting to stock these days
Alexander Cox
an meme ive not seen in a long time. an long time.
Ethan Murphy
What's your battery life like?
Wyatt Cox
Still rocking my sansa clip+
Nathaniel Sullivan
moar storage
Camden Perry
After reading the op, I found my old ipod nano 2g and rockboxed it. Cool. I guess. Back into the drawer it goes.
Matthew Mitchell
can anybody read japanese? do you know if onkyo will refresh the x1-a this year like they are doing with the s1?
also recommendation for a nice pmp with dual headphone jack output around the level of the x1?
budget
Nolan Wilson
It really doesn't. Best way I found to use it while walking is to keep it in a backpack or similar, and just use the bluetooth remote to control it.
>can anybody read japanese? do you know if onkyo will refresh the x1-a this year like they are doing with the s1? The message in that pic doesn't have anything to do with new release information. I'm pretty sure the DP-X1A was just released last year (~Q2), so I doubt there will be another refresh in 2018.
Leo Clark
This
Isaiah Morgan
That small Daki keychain is so cute OwO. Where did you get it?
Ayden Young
we all have a phone but having a dedicated device is still nice
Christian Gonzalez
That pic was taken when I was waiting for my laundry to finish at my hotel in Akiba... Need I say more? lol
Jacob Nguyen
what should I convert my files to? They are mostly FLAC.
Colton Gomez
v0
Jose King
This. There is a reason is the most popular format on lots of music trackers
Benjamin Stewart
If anything i noticed the battery lasting a bit longer. (playing mp3 with flac playback things probably look a bit different)
Kayden Watson
sound quality wise, is an ipod better then something new like a shanling m1 or a cayin n3?
Charles Perry
Thoughts on sony minidisk?
Josiah Ross
My sister has a Sansa Clip Zip which I installed Rockbox on a really long time ago. I live in another country right now, so I can't update the software for her, is there a way to do it in a very simple way, like just dropping a file in the root directory and then booting it up?
Andrew Cook
kino
Ryan Hughes
People (me included) feel the wolfson of some ipods sounds better.
Old rockbox did, current does not. For example It does turn off the display when on hold, whereas stock leaves it on (slightly but on) (at least on me ipod). It's also reversible, you can boot on stock while on rock box and use your old library so whatever.
There is a skin that is like that interface. The main thing rockbox has over stock is that you can just drag and drop your music on it via USB, no program needed, and it would check for it.
Landon Rodriguez
Rockbox has an installer app that can update the software and download other skins. I think it can even install the bootloader. If rockbox is on it already you don't need to do that.
Charles Adams
Shit for most people, fine for me. I have this one for over 2 years so battery isn't as good as it used to be.
Sebastian Clark
No it's not. It's just another electronic device yo don't need.
Oliver Diaz
Rockbox gave new life to my busted iPod classic 6gen and my iPod mini v2. I work in a room that doesn't allow cell phones, and the rest of the retail available MP3 players suck ass. But my iPod classic works perfectly, vanilla battery 18ish estimated hours of audio playtime with the brightness dimmed.
Carson Hernandez
just like a phone
Michael Gomez
Yeah maybe if you never leave your basement.
Ayden Moore
Sounds like you've got the downs. Retard.
Hudson Lopez
Pretty good if you want a linear format. There is almost no reason to ever use such a thing but if it solves a specific problem you have then go for it.
Nolan Harris
Guys, I'll ask here and on /csg/ since I think it's related to both. I know my ipod 5th gen has a video output to vga, a friend years ago owned the cable. Would getting a 30 pin to hdmi adapter work to play videos on TV with that function ? Or would just mounting in via USB to the TV work better? Thanks in advance
Luke Bennett
sansaclip+ with 330mAh battery and rockbox iPod video with iFlash quad µSD pcb and rockbox (and diyMOD soon as well)
rockbox has become a must have for my DAPs
Chase Perry
Not shilled if it's sincere users spreading the word. The biggest plus for me is adding drag and drop music management to iPods. Fuck iTunes, you can just add music directly to the drive. Plus flac, album art, brightness settings, easy shuffle and repeat toggles, better battery, better codecs, sleep timers, and more.
Ayden Gomez
Never convert to lossy. Unless you're keeping the original flac and using the MP3 for shoving on a device with little space
Hunter Jenkins
OPUS
Landon Taylor
Drag and drop seems nice enough. I'll look into the skin you mention. Since I read you get dual boot, I can keep using my ipod as a backup video player. Yes, or if the pc has little space itself. You can try a really compressed lossless, but well. Minimum of 192 or v2-3 for me, anything with less quality of a direct transcode from lossless and I can tell (and am bothered by) the quality drop
William Young
Where are said easy toggles? Stock firmware has it in main menu, which I want to do on rockbox but I can't find how.
Gabriel Thomas
My ex gfs iPod classic is a 120 GB slim, she lent me a few years ago, moved overseas and forgot to ask it back from me.
¿Can I install rockbox respecting her music library etc? In case she wants it back
Is it safe? Official rockbox is for version 5 and lower
Can I make a backup of her data and just restore from that if I fuck the installation?
I don't have her iTunes account. Yes, Jamal etc but if that was the I'd just flip it in Craigslist/gumtree/local classifieds
Daniel Nelson
Just back up the iPod_control hidden folder before you do anything
Christian Moore
>¿ Give it back, el brayan
Lincoln Diaz
A seller on craigslist says sometimes a track wont write to an ipod t gen, or write very slowly. Is this a 99% drive problem?
John Gray
Yes, just replace it with flash storage
Carter Scott
Loled at this pic
Kevin Campbell
give it back el kevin
Jose Reed
An hero!
Adrian Campbell
I've got an iPod with a busted hard drive. What's the least I can spend to make a working Rockbox player?
Jaxon Hill
$5-$30
Anthony Adams
Are iPods with Rockbox the dap/pmp equivalent of ThinkPads with Linux?
Bentley Wood
Yes
David Morris
>not using both question marks ¿Are you retarded?
Justin Bennett
It depends on the type of ipod, some you can just throw a cf card in, but others need an adaptor
Carson Harris
Which ipod generation so you prefer and why?
Caleb Fisher
If I could expand the storage in this thing it'd be perfection.
Jonathan Thomas
...
Benjamin Murphy
bump
Isaac Harris
4th gen classic, both grayscale and photo/color
Colton Scott
There was a player on sale for about 9000$ by some random crazy guy, does anyone have a link to the website?
Nathan Clark
kek
Jayden Rodriguez
5th gen, size, the use as a portable hard drive that also plays music and videos, the video out via the dock, with rockbox it also became a media controller for my pc when on the TV, easy to mod.
Carson Sullivan
Is 40 bux for a working 30gb 5.5gen iPod a good deal? Gonna mod it with flash memory and change the battery.
Nathaniel Ward
yeah best gen
Camden Campbell
CHINKPOD
Nicholas Phillips
Are there any good cheaper players with that Y2K aesthetic like pic related? Preferably with Rockbox.
>Y2K aesthetic like pic related Cayin N5 like what has, and the Colorfly players are what comes to mind, aesthetic-wise and in terms of devices that are more recent. None of these have rockbox support afaik, and the size and UI may or may not work to your liking.
Also, I've demo'd that N6 you have pictured, they're giant and way too heavy to be pocketable, just in case you were looking for something to use while on the go.
Angel Sullivan
considering price and time to get them delivered I'd say yes
Brandon Perez
What software should I use to add lyrics to my library? My gf wants to learn English and I'm lending her one of my old ipods with my music (which she likes), but would help to have Lyrics. Thanks
Elijah Ortiz
no you pedo faggot kys
Jacob Barnes
>she doesn't already speak english So, she's either under 13 or so, or from a shithole country like France?
Noah Phillips
Yes, colombian. At least she wants to learn it
Elijah Allen
I got the new Sony NWA45 in blue a couple days ago. The interface is pretty nice and responsive, the big plus is how low noise the amp is. Couple more days and I'll post a better review, very impressed thus far.
Justin Flores
everything about it looks super cool, it's 10/10 on an aesthetic level as a format, Sony went out of their way to make it a hassle for no reason
Lucas Green
>touchscreen interface
Blake Reyes
>touchscreen instead of physical buttons Yeah Sony fucked that one up right at the starting line didn't they?
Juan Thompson
I like how they use the 00s Walkman logo.
Leo Jackson
There are physical buttons to control play/pause forward, backward, lock and power on the side of the device. I figured I wouldn't like the touch interface, but the buttons work well enough that I just set a playlist and it works great.
Grayson Wright
>grab music player >advances, rewinds, or skips song Touchsreens make PMPs into pieces of shit and you're a piece of shit for recommending one.
Jason Rivera
Well, it has an impossibly low noise floor, really long battery life, and I like it.
Connor Brown
Can I watch videos on something like this: ?
Austin Martin
Yes
Charles Rivera
What the hell is going on that all the mp3/flac players are going for hundreds if not thousands of dollars? I get that the plebian thing to do is play it on your phone but is there really no market for people who want a dedicated device?
Blake Ross
Anyone here using a 1st gen ipod shuffle?
Ergonomics are great but 1gb of storage is killing me
Jack Walker
Bought this baby last week along with a 128GB iPod 120GB is dying and I want to use my bluetooth earphones
Tell me what I'm in for /pmp/
James Roberts
yeah.
Jace Brooks
>I get that the plebian thing to do is play it on your phone but is there really no market for people who want a dedicated device? It's exactly that. When smarphones and streaming services became a thing, dedicated music players turned into a niche market segment.
Anthony Taylor
>ipod shuffle How the hell can anyone use a player with no display?
Nolan Morris
Snake oil.
Aiden Robinson
Anybody have any under 100 dollar suggestions? The faq is wildly out of date, and I just want something I'm not afraid of breaking or getting stolen when I'm jogging.
Kayden Bailey
You N'wa!!
Lucas Jackson
I like it more than my phone because when I have easy access to my entire library, I end up just listening to one or two songs until I burn out on them. Since it's such a bitch to navigate through playlists on the shuffle, I find that I appreciate a lot more music that I normally wouldn't bother with. Plus, it's just a neat gizmo to fidget with
Christopher Smith
Sandisk clip? Used Ipod video + flash mod?
Xavier Clark
Is there any reason at all to upgrade from my old Clip+?
Liam Gomez
What kind of headphones can the Sansa drive?
Brayden Wilson
my s5 has a really bad DAC so I need to look for a portable music player
Jack Clark
get a better phone.
Parker Wood
yeah lemme just drop a thousand on something i dont need to upgrade
Dylan Wright
>Sansa Clip Sport+ fucks up tags regularly >changes made on computer don't reflect on the actual player What do.
Logan Bell
Just use your phone
Kayden Stewart
That's all well and good for you fools who own anything beyond a cheap prepaid flip phone.
Joshua Long
Can Plenue D play opus ogg?
Asher Lee
What is current good pmp in 20$ range such as Sansa Clip+ was? Need one cause dropped out of smartphones.
Nicholas Gonzalez
yes. get a battery with the max mah you can as long as it fits in the case. also youre paying too much
Tyler Wright
I'm not gonna waste my phone's battery by making it do something another device can do.
Benjamin Barnes
no
Tyler Cooper
What model is it, and is it any good?
Ian Harris
Xduoo X3 rock boxed Ruizu A50 Zishan z2
Lincoln Gonzalez
I'm thinking to make a list of minimalist music player with text only interface that focus on sound quality before functionality. But wonder if there is any interest for it? Let me know.
Jose Foster
Snagged a 2nd Gen iPod Mini a couple weeks ago for like $10 and just now swapped the 4GB HDD out for a 128GB SD + CF adapter, installed Rockbox, etc. God damn does this thing sound good though, I know measurements wise it's probably shit compared to modern stuff but there's just something really nice about the sound, it's strong, warm and has tons of instrument separation, more so than my Fiio E10K or my iPhone SE, S7 etc. There's just something really engaging about it. Autism I guess.
Hudson Torres
Cute.
Anthony White
Can you recommend me a listing? iFlash is the only working SD card adapter. As for battery the ipod uses a special cable not the JST 2P connector you find with most LiPo batteries. Maybe there is a charging circuit built into the battery. Idk
Daniel Lewis
up to HD558's perfectly well. desu just smack one on a portable amp
David Cruz
Stop talking out of your ass. I have had that same player and it hisses like fuck.Get your ears checked.
Kevin Powell
It hisses when you have the gain maxed out but. that would cause crazy hearing damage on the headphones I have. It's probably shit for low impedance IEMs though.
Gavin Peterson
Seriously at volumes that you can actually hear the hiss my M50s are being driven as loud as fucking speakers.
Eli Martin
You got my attention. Please do it.
Noah Sanchez
>There was a player on sale for about 9000$ by some random crazy guy, does anyone have a link to the website? The terra player has been reduced to only 2995 if that's the one your thinking of
So I guess every single person on earth 40 years ago basically didn't exist outside of their own basements then, retard?
Bentley Hill
FUCK most of those statements depict me. especially the, "sorry if im being too loud, i'm just very interested in the topic."
Dylan Jackson
>16gb storage >no sd thanks google
Dylan Howard
Falls for a phone with 2011-tier internal memory and no SD card slot.
Bentley Walker
My phone's not as good at being a DAP as my DAP is
Levi Ward
Any of you have one of these?
Is it as inconvenient as it seems? I keep thinking about buying it.
Jaxon Peterson
>>>/facebook/
Andrew Ward
Yes I use it every day. It's fine with a 32gb SD card filled with flac. The zishan z2 is better though
Aaron Robinson
Since a lot of PMPs come with mics these days, why don't they go all the way and release PMPs with mics and cameras?
Samuel Taylor
I got excited about the zishan z3 but I've read multiple comments of the firmware being shit, not walnut v3 levels of shit, but bad enough.
Jayden Reed
Yeah the good thing about the z2 is that it's so basic it's hard to fuck up
Jacob Edwards
my phone doesn't have a music player on it
Luis Thompson
just bought t he z2 yolo
Parker Bell
clip+ with rockbox. takes a bit getting used to if you're generally used to touchscreens only, but it's great once you get it
Cameron Morris
Check the head fi thread for updates and how to use. There is a shuffle mode and you can skip folders
Henry Williams
how do you know what album is playing? you have to recognize it?
Leo Walker
Which iPod has the best sound quality?
Lucas Hall
Arguably Video (Classic 5/5.5 gen)
Lucas Green
Is this the absolute undisputed GOAT? If not, what else is there that can challenge it?
I've had one of these things for around 5 years now. Cost me like $30, no complaints whatsoever. Of all my electronic possessions it's possibly the one I value most. I'd rather go a month without my PC and the internet than not have one of these things. But the extent to which I spend my time listening to podcasts and music would justify me getting something even better, regardless of its expense. I seriously listen to this thing like 10+ hours a day, since I get to use it at work. It's probably to the point of being unhealthy, since I need it when I go to bed, and even have to grab it when I go to take a shit so I have something to listen to rather than the splashing sounds.
So within reason (as in ignoring all the autistic shit like $5000 FLAC audiophilism), what else is there out there that I could possibly buy? Something that will be used solely for listening to long podcasts / talks etc and music, so no bloatware gimmicks like video playback. Because I can't even think of any kind of feature or improvements over the Sansa Clips that would be worth buying another product for. The only thing my Clip Jam doesn't have is Rockbox capability, but the normal UI is just fine as it is. I have some money to waste, so any ideas?
Isaac Young
sorry for the wall text shitpost, didn't notice there was actually a guide for this general. didn't think there would even be a general like this in 2018 either.
William Lopez
I went to school with him
Owen King
Use your memory, just like before the internet killed it.
Matthew Clark
Just bought an iPod like the one in an hero's grave. What am I in for, Cred Forums?
Easton Lee
some really weird anal probing from the ghost of steve jobs
Jason Reyes
Risking becoming an hero.
Matthew Powell
never forget, for an hero lives in us all
Jacob Rodriguez
that's a waste of time if you have a lot of albums
Grayson Young
Surprisingly good audio quality and hipster cred.
Daniel Taylor
How was he like? Was he an cool guy?
Parker Wright
>Nanos aren't worth it. Really? How hard? I wanted to buy a broken nano like and fix it.