User, what are the points of western right wingers...

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>trying to protect what liberals created speaking of freedoms
As far as I see they call any criticism towards them a violation of freedom if speech.
>muslims
Left wingers are secularists, and most of ethnic Muslims in Europe don't really give a fuck about religion. Only 20% of Muslims in France are practicing.
Look at Le Pen who turned FN into left wing party because while being strongly secularist and antiislamic. Left wingers love religious Muslims is pol meme.
You don't know what authoritarian society is. All your right wingers are free to speak what they want, they aren't imprisoned. Fact that they are unpopular doesn't make their opponents authoritarian.

>You don't know what authoritarian society is. All your right wingers are free to speak what they want, they aren't imprisoned. Fact that they are unpopular doesn't make their opponents authoritarian.

It's the stance they advocate. Even if we haven't quite reached the level they want, they're pushing for it. Censorship and the stifling of dissent opinions. Removal of due process. More taxes and government centralization.

I may not "know" yet but I'm seeing the early signs of it bud

No, you really don't know.

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Right and left wing is a fucktarded term anyway that has long outlived its usefulness. Someone can call himself a "right winger" and be either a libertarian or a national socialist. Shit makes zero sense.

>what are the points of western right wingers?
they're a meme

You should visit the left wing endgame, Detroit.
youtube.com/watch?v=9dBbZFXr05U

Jesus fuck, talk about no true scotsman

thank you for fucking sharing, I'm alluding to their political sentiments, they would rather restructure our society as authoritarian than liberalize it and are no longer fitting for the "liberal" label, that's the end of my statement

This.

"Right" wing is codeword for anti-immigration now.

>right-wingers want to protect freedom of speech
oh wow

nobody will shut you down quicker than right-wing Cred Forumstard if you disagree with them

we need a pinochet pretty badly right now

50 iq edgy basement dwellers who make up 2-3% of population. yeah nah.

Left wingers have fallen in line with the same line of thought.
It's partisan politics, and it's the death of democracy.

Ted Cruz is currently fighting for free speech on the internet and nary a liberal is coming to his aide

right wingers aren't the ones spraying all political messages they don't agree with off of sidewalks and sending mobs to oppositional political rallies

so nice meme

>I get BTFO on Cred Forums so my free speech is being shut down
pls, is this bait?

This.
No, seriously. If you're unpopular, this doesn't make your opponents authoritarian. For example, in Russia if you're an opposition activist you can easily be put in prison, people get imprisoned for shit posted in VK etc. Those are projections.
>"Right" wing is codeword for anti-immigration now.
It's not. You can be left and be anti-immigration seeing it as process benefiting capitalists, etc.
>death of democracy.
Not really. I guess in a future conservatives and poltards would extinct and left/right division would be struggle of libertarians with socialists.

He's talking about the fact that if you call left wingers authoritarian for harshly criticizing their opponents you should consider right wingers authoritarian too. If you're unpopular you're not persecuted. Free spea h means you would not be put in prison for things you say.

This is all I have to say

an extreme isn't the only form and you're trying to redefine a broad ideology as one extreme

they are more authoritarian than liberal

many leftists want 'hate speech' laws in places that don't already have them
there, done

>It's not. You can be left and be anti-immigration seeing it as process benefiting capitalists, etc.
It is in the media. I'm not saying it's correct usage.

>As far as I see they call any criticism towards them a violation of freedom if speech.
Always seem to be right wingers shut down for their different opinions online like Milo (even if I don't like him)
Or the canadian man charged 6 months for "insulting" a feminist
When was the last time something like that happened to the left wing?

the problem with the left nowadays is that it's strongly pro-censorship under the masquerade of protecting minorities
As a faggot myself I think it's infuriating that someone could be put in prison or lose his job for calling me a fag

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Well, if you call idea of obedience to the government authoritarian, than anyone except libertarians and anarchists is authoritarian.
Hate speech is different thing. If you call for genociding black people for example it may harm society by actions of people inspired by shit you wrote hence it's criminal offence. Of course with shitty government such laws may be used for persecuting opposition but with shitty government any laws may be used for that. In Russia you can be imprisoned for extremism for any shit you say that government doesn't like but it's a matter of the government and not the law.

>Milo
That fag was banned by twitter (private corporation, not the government) and not because his """"ideas"""" but for bullying people.
>When was the last time something like that happened to the left wing?
Because left wingers are not so prone to do shit like abusing people, sorry. And if you look outside the west you would see liberals imprisoned everyday. From Saudi Arabia to Indonesia, from Russia to Turkey.
>pro-censorship
Again, criticism is not censorship.

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People are just bitter and angry. So they naturally find more coarse politics appealing. I guess it makes sense to you more when you have that mindset

they want to shut down criticism tho, which is censorship
you can literally lose your job if you offend someone here
that's bollocks

>Bullying on the internet
ohh no the horrors

>Because left wingers are not so prone to do shit like abusing people
Like beating up trump supporters? And police doing nothing to stop them? Ohh wait that did happen in San Jose. I still don't remember right wingers coming to bernie (lol loser) and beating his supporters

No, I call the idea of wanting more government power over your speech and behavior authoritarian

that's what they want, they're authoritarians

not hard at all, you're just trying to deliberately convolute the debate

>It's the stance they advocate. Even if we haven't quite reached the level they want, they're pushing for it. Censorship and the stifling of dissent opinions.
Ah of course, and what bothers you is censorship of spreading senseless hate, bigotry and racism online, right?

Don't be upset when people call you out on your bullshit.

>you can literally lose your job if you offend someone here
You can lose job for offending someone anywhere because it's the right of employer if he wants people like that work in his company.
>they want to shut down criticism
Google critical discourse. Left wing ideas are based on criticism.
>I still don't remember right wingers coming to bernie (lol loser) and beating his supporters
Because Trump supporters are coward faggots. And it's not done by government. If you say something that offends public you should be ready for reaction. If in Russia liberals have rally they are ready for vatniks to come to fight them. The difference is that in real authoritarian regime police comes and imprisons you for rally. In USA they btw had things like that in 60s when government shooted left rallies.

>Because Trump supporters are coward faggots.
So now they are cowards for not coming to bernie rallies and attacking them? Wow talk about showing your true face. What a pathetic loser you are

You're such a short sighted retard. It starts with "we'll only ban [x], [x], and [x]", then we state "who gets to decide what qualifies as [x] speech?" Eventually bias really creeps in and one dominant party or ideology controls all discourse. It's a tale as old as time. That's why free speech has almost no barriers, it's subjective to decide what is "wrong" free speech so it's better to keep your limitations at the most basic levels. Men 250 years ago understood this and now we have upstart little millenial faggots thinking they know what's better for this country.

>wanting more government power over your speech and behavior authoritarian
What's power over your speech? If you call people to kill others it's clearly an offence. And of course right wingers call for the same. Banning anti-religious, anti-traditionalist speech is a natural right wing thing.

So an employer can decide who he wants to work in his company, based on other things but his effective quality as a worker?
An employer can decide he only wants males?
Only christians?
Only 20yo people?
Only left-wingers?
No, that's bullshit, it's discriminatory, it's authoritarian

You're so full of shit. Talking about how liberals want to create a system of censorship. Give me a break.

Freedom of speech is not unlimited. You are supposed to use it responsibly. You're supposed to not be a retard. Don't get butthurt when people call you out on your bullshit and your comments get deleted.

Since right wingers have rallied around Trump, you no longer can make a legitimate argument that you oppose authoritarianism.

>we'll only ban [x], [x], and [x]
You can talk like that about any law. "Free speech" is when you can show up your ideas and discuss them. It's different from calling for genocide and spreading speeches that lead to things like that. No one anywhere proposes to ban conservative ideas. If you say "kill niggers" you should be punished.

So tsundere.

As I've pointed out before, he isn't the one attacking oppositional rallies, trying to harass and intimidate people, scrubbing messages off of sidewalks on college campuses, and trying to paint the opposition with a broad stroke as "right wing nazis".

Yes, there are limits on free speech. You can't induce terror, among other things. Political messages and racism are not limited because people are entitled to those opinions. Fucking swede cuck boot licker

>they just want to stop senseless hate!
Say that to the people who wanted the police to shut down a completely legal anti-immigration protest here.

Man there's a lot of black women getting posted on here tonight.

You are entitled to your opinions, you are not entitled to smear them in people's faces. Other people are also entitled to call you out on your bullshit and react appropriately.

>scrubbing messages off of sidewalks on college campuses, and trying to paint the opposition with a broad stroke as "right wing nazis"
Basically you don't want free speech that paints you in a bad light.

That's ordinary citizens doing that, not the government.
Trump is advocating that the government take more authoritarian polices.

If you offend others, especially based on irrational shit like race, gender, sexual orientation, he may consider you won't fit in the collective. It's different from your age or political attitudes.
This. No one proposes banning speech further than calls for genocide etc. If you get mocked on the net for shit you have said its not a censorship.

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What happens when I lose my job because I'm "racist" for saying that people of black colour commit more crime per capita than whites, what's your defense

>As I've pointed out before, he isn't the one attacking oppositional rallies, trying to harass and intimidate people, scrubbing messages off of sidewalks on college campuses, and trying to paint the opposition with a broad stroke as "right wing nazis".
It's made by people, not the government, and it's criticism. Scrubbing off the posters and calling right wingers bastards is criticism, there is nothing close to banning you from showing up with your ideas. If people ban you on their own blog, it's not "REEE MUH FREE SPEECH", it's their private business.
>Political messages and racism are not limited
If the political message is leading to terror, it's not. Racism clearly leads to terror, genocide and so, especially if you are directly spreading hatred.

>user, what are the points of western right wingers?

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free speech only protects you from the government

It's not racism if you explain it with objective reasons like poverty. If you say they are inherently more violent and back your opinion with those statistics you're racist.

> and most of ethnic Muslims in Europe don't really give a fuck about religion.
Stop talking about Europe like you've even smelled the place you dirty churkaluk.

>they are inherently more violent and back your opinion with those statistics you're racist.
>HOW DARE YOU SHOW FACTS AND PROOF

This.

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Me: Blacks commit more crime per capita than whites
Sensible (in the negative connotation) coworker: Are you saying blacks are more aggressive?!
Me: I don't know, there's no real scientific consensus on this
Coworker: OMG you didn't say no you're, like, totally a racist
Boss: I don't want someone who is provocative and disrupts order in my company, thus even if you merely stated facts and expressed an innoquos opinion who doesn't really hurt anyone or legitly offend anyone, I will fire you
Me: Shit

There are two different things. You shouldn't be discriminated on a basis of your gender or political attitudes. If you're known for hate speeches on the net employer may consider you aggressive person who can't work effectively.
In a private media of course you can be banned and so, because it's private business and it has nothing to do with free speech. I am not even talking about the fact that I see right wingers spewing shit on the net everywhere and no one bans them.

>I don't know, there's no real scientific consensus on this
But there is one. All the modern anthropologists have a consensus about it. If I show up with those statistics discussing the problems of black society, explaining it with poverty and ghetto culture, talking about destruction of ghettos and poverty, it's okay.
It's not proof. It's deluding people. If you show stats and explain it with racist theories disproved by science, it's racism.