When will G*rmans finally apologize?

Should include Blücher as well

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redpill me on him pls

And this time was free of conflicts and terror, because the world had one giant "conflict" which wouldn't even escalate because neither the sowjets nor americans were dumb enough to nuke the other. Who the fuck cares, it's not like you'd ever travel to Tadschikistan, or something like that anyways. Marx was a dumb fuck but the world profited from the cold war, because conflicts lead to progression in technology and again we had just one conflict.

Why should we apologise?

Marx: Russia made communism big
WW1: Literally Austrias fault
WW2: 50/50 Hitler is Austian though
Merkel: Can't blame her except for letting refugees in. She didn't even caused the problem

>Meme image

a local Euro Conflict was started when Austria declared war at Serbia and Russia declared war at Austria.
A world war was started when Germany, under the tyranny of Pr*ssia, declared war on France and invaded Belgium, dragging the USA into the conflict.

add en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boniface_I,_Marquess_of_Montferrat#Fourth_Crusade

You are stupid.

>Austria declared war on Serbia
>German is an Ally of Austria so we have to join or we are cowards like Italy
>Serbia is an Ally of Russia so we have to atack Russia as well
>France is an Ally Russia so we have to atack them as well or they fuck us
>We go through Belgium and England (Ally of Russia and France) joins
>USA stays neutral but declares war later one because of money

>This

That was an Italian though.

Austrias demands on Serbia was unreasonable and the only reason they declared war was because the Pr*ssian elite of Germany gave them a blank cheque to do as they wished.

>Russia made communism big

Yes HOWEVER there were a lot of German and Hungarian POWs in Russia at the time and guess which side were they fighting for in the revolution.

Also Lenin was a Pr*ssian agent.

So we forced Austria to do it ?

He was released from his exile so he could harm the Russians at their home front. Not our fault that Russia was so weak.

What's the difference?

>Arminius
>bad
Mednigger please
We nordics dont want to fight you
We are european brothers after all, but please leave us alone

Where is Marx?

there are many things you slavic subhuman
bulgarians f.e are more turkish than turks

?????

t. dindu

Sorry for 30 years war
Sorry for World War 1
Sorry for Word War 2
Sorry for our mismanagement of refugee crisis

That man has a dignity.

It may be just a Hans Cuckermann, be on check, comrade.

sorry for the countless millions of russian lives lost due to Hitlers war of agression

Germanics are either selfhating cucks or genocidal Nazis.

There is no middle ground.

That's what you get for settling in Celtic-Slav land.

It's your fault Germans even came to existence. I blame Scandinavians.

without Germany, we would lack many nice things.
Just think of all the culture Germans produced
Or the European development funds Poland recieves from Germany

>Just think of all the culture Germans produced
When you weren't a single country.
Unification was mistake.
>Or the European development funds Poland recieves from Germany
We wouldn't need that if you didn't chimp out, raze our country to the ground, kill most important people and steal everything valuable.

We are an evil nation filled with horrible people

>We set Prussia free
>We destroyed the polish lithuanian commonwealth
>We genocided finns
>We where the first Protestant country in the world
>We made sure Germany stayed protestant
>We allied with the turk
>We had the biggest sterilization project in the world (per capita)
>We sympathised with the nazis in ww2
>We sympathised with the soviets during the cold war
>We wuz vikings

Russia should have genocided us desu

Beethoven was Flemish with possible Spanish ancestry.

Germany was just as destroyed as Poland after the war, and yet look how wealthy we are today.
But I am confident that with the development funds and German invesment, Poland will be soon able to enjoy the same living standards as Germany

>Germany was just as destroyed as Poland after the war, and yet look how wealthy we are today.
Not true at all. You weren't nearly as half as destroyed as Poland.

Ever heard of Marshall plan? We got Soviet occupation and further destruction.

Karl Marx dindu nuffin wrong

>We where the first Protestant country in the world

Nope

True. It was Czech and Prussia

Marshall plan were only peanuts, really.

And I dont think it is really fair to blame us for the soviet occupation of your country

He wrote that retarded little booklet of his.

He didnt tought that people would be JUST enough to actually create a country based on socialism

>We set Prussia free
>We destroyed the polish lithuanian commonwealth
>We made sure Germany stayed protestant
>We allied with the turk
We were a good team
>We genocided finns
Don't beat yourself up over it. Everybody makes mistakes
>We had the biggest sterilization project in the world (per capita)
Nice
>We sympathised with the nazis in ww2
We allied with the nazis in ww2
>We sympathised with the soviets during the cold war
So did we
>We wuz vikings
We wuz mongols

you krauts got help from the krauts in america
germ filth

First Lutheran country then

Why do Germans always loose wars to everyone?

Just beacuse Finland is even more shit doesn't mean Sweden is good.

hello my greek friend, are you enjoying your stay in Germany?
And did you know that Greece got even more Marshall help per inhabitant than Germany?
And yet turned out to be far less successful

The world war was started when Russia, encouraged by France, decided to get involved

...

Blame France?

>Not true at all. You weren't nearly as half as destroyed as Poland.

The strategic bombing campaign was focused on Western Germany, the parts of Eastern Germany and the Gerneral Government that are now Poland were hit less hard; Warsaw was destroyed but the rest of Poland was probably better off.

>the rest of Poland was probably better off.
You forget that we were moved west after WW2.

Everything razed to the ground in Germany became part of Poland. Our eastern cities in perfect shape were stolen from us.

>the rest of Poland was probably better off

The rest of Poland got moved westwards and got hit by the worst plague the 20th century ever had, communism.

Also, Germans and Russians killed or forced to flee most of those who could fight against commies.

Materially speaking, Germany was probably worse off but by any other criteria, they got extremely lucky.

That little booklet guide us and help us fought 6 countries (France, USA,South Vietnam, Khmer Rouge Cambodia, China) in 5 decades (1945-1990

I know, IIRC, what was Eastern Germany was hit less hard because there was less industry than in the Western part and because it was out of range for fighter escorts for the first years of the war. I think for the same reason Austrian cities were less destroyed

>a local Euro Conflict was started when Austria declared war at Serbia and Russia declared war at Austria.
>A world war was started when Germany, under the tyranny of Pr*ssia, declared war on France and invaded Belgium, dragging the USA into the conflict.
By this definition Germany didn't start WWII, because prior to the declarations of war on Germany by Britain and France it was just as small time German-Polish war.

>Germanics are either seen as selfhating cucks or genocidal Nazis.
>There is no middle ground.
fixed

Want to tell me about that time when Russia declared war against several nations at once?

You can't compare the two. In world war 1 the Russians pressured Serbia into accepting the demands, they only denying the demands because they would have turned Serbia into a puppet state. Austria had even formed their ultium to make the Serbs turn it down, all this backed by Pr*ssia.

In world war 2 we saw how the Allies made concession after concession, never wanting any war to begin with.

Yeah, I was just talking about the material aspect, altough I wouldn't call losing a quarter of your land "extremely lucky". I know that communism is to blame for much of Eastern Europe's backwardness; on the other hand, your countries stayed homogenous (for now) because of it, and you guys seem to be pretty glad for it

>Want to tell me about that time when Russia declared war against several nations at once?

They mobilized their army in anticipation to get involved in the war between Austria and Serbia. They continued with the mobilization in spite of being told that this would mean a general war.

Naive

They wanted to protect their ally in case of an unjustified war. They had no wishes to enter a war and even encouraged the Serbs to accept the ultimatum. Neither the AUstrians or Prussians had any wish for peace though, forcing Russia to war.

>They wanted to protect their ally

They didn't knowingly escalate the war just to protect Serbia, Russia's goals were more extensive, such as annexing Galicia, integrating the whole of the Balkans into their zone of influence and securing the straits.

>in case of an unjustified war.

Serbia was a state whose end goal was dismantling AH and their secret service operated a terror group on AH's soil. That's somewhat sufficent for a penal expedition

If we're looking at what happened the decades previous to WWI, the Entente liquidated German Allies for much less, as seen in the annexation of the Boer states and occupation Morroco. If Germany had decided to protect its Allies in these situations, people like you would probably blame Germany for the resulting war.

>They didn't knowingly escalate the war just to protect Serbia, Russia's goals were more extensive, such as annexing Galicia, integrating the whole of the Balkans into their zone of influence and securing the straits.
They encouraged Serbia to accept the demands, how does that go hand in hand with wanting war?

>Serbia was a state whose end goal was dismantling AH and their secret service operated a terror group on AH's soil. That's somewhat sufficent for a penal expedition
It was elements within the state, not the state, and the state was willing to do something against those. They were on the other hand not ready to become a puppet state to Austria or accept such a treaty in less than 48 hours.

>If we're looking at what happened the decades previous to WWI, the Entente liquidated German Allies for much less, as seen in the annexation of the Boer states and occupation Morroco. If Germany had decided to protect its Allies in these situations, people like you would probably blame Germany for the resulting war.
Those two cases were foreign nations invading other states, this was about a terror organisation whose home country was perfectly ready to cooperate with Austria as long as they didn't become a puppet state. Big difference.

>You can't compare the two. In world war 1 the Russians pressured Serbia into accepting the demands, they only denying the demands because they would have turned Serbia into a puppet state. Austria had even formed their ultium to make the Serbs turn it down, all this backed by Pr*ssia.
You're trying to change the topic, Sven.
If a local war was turned into a world war by interference by an ally of one of the participants of the local war, then Germany, Russia and France started WWI and France and Britain started WWII. YOUR definition.

>They had no wishes to enter a war
Don't play dumb. Russia sought revision ever since the Congress of Berlin. And it was backed in this by France which sought revision ever since their defeat of 1870/71.

Then explain to me why they encouraged Serbia to accept the Demands, instead of doing like say Germany and giving them a blank cheque?

Explain to me why they were the first to mobilize their army at a time when standard military doctrine said that a) you can't demobilize once you mobilized and b) the one who mobilizes first has the best chance of winning.

>the state was willing to do something against those.

That's what was claimed in order to avoid getting taught a lesson. In reality, the Serbian elites were hostile to AH and they likely would have continued their hostile policies in the long run after appeasing a little bit.

>Those two cases were foreign nations invading other states

Entente states invaded countries that had good ties with Germany. Germany didn't escalate a war in that situation to "protect their Allies". German bit the bullet back then while the Entente knowingly entered a general war because of Serbia. And AH's reasons to go to war with Serbia were motivated by self preservation, while the actions of the Entente were pure imperialism.

I admit that the definition was wrong, yet that the situations was in very way different.

Austria attacked Russia's ally before Russia mobilized you know?

>That's what was claimed in order to avoid getting taught a lesson. In reality, the Serbian elites were hostile to AH and they likely would have continued their hostile policies in the long run after appeasing a little bit.

>Entente states invaded countries that had good ties with Germany. Germany didn't escalate a war in that situation to "protect their Allies". German bit the bullet back then while the Entente knowingly entered a general war because of Serbia. And AH's reasons to go to war with Serbia were motivated by self preservation, while the actions of the Entente were pure imperialism.
What reasons should I have to believe that the Entente entered the war out of purely Imperialistic reasons while the Central powers didn't? Especially considering Prussian generals had been aching for war against Russia for quite some time, Bismarck being the one stopping them from it earlier. Sincere questions really, suppose there should be some Documents supporting it?

Lombard*

Rather sure the Germanic Lombards were extinct at the time and that only the regional ones remained.

I was talking about the Boer war and the occupation of Morocco when I said pure imperialism. I stressed how Germany accepted these transgressions, while the Entente went into a general war for Serbia.

That's a good argument.
May I ask what that makes you think that the Serbs actually wouldn't have done what the Austrian's wanted if they didn't have to become a puppet state?