Is Japanese culture sexist?

Women are still expected to be housewifes after giving birth, effectively ending their career.

The anime market. Nuff said.

The obesseion with stereotypical gender roles and making girls cute instead of strong.

Japanese men still can't cope with strong women.

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It would be a Swede who would make a thread about sexism.
Girls are supposed to be cute and not manly.

Yes. I went there once and women still wear a lot of skirts. WTF it was horrible and sexist

Why are they supposed to be cute? Who has the right to decide what "manliness" is?

>people having different cultural and moral values than my culture is bad
This triggers my PTSD from the time some stupid American committee tried to shoah zwarte piet

>Who has the right to decide what "manliness" is?
Testosterone in your body, mainly

Please explain what that has to do with gender roles.

Believe it or not, but us males are more attracted to cute girls and not manly ones, feminism in the west only add's up to declining birth rates.
Not that I want 3d women anymore.

Source, please.

that's same to females detest weak men.

Why would a male want to be attracted to a manly female?
It's basically being attracted to another man, but in a women's body.

Have you ever left Sweden? Men find muscular and tough women completely un-ladylike, which is why most girls present strength in different ways.

While I don't like cute women, I like them feminine. And so do other men. Gender roles have less to say here than you think.

Rising living standards is what reduces birth rates.

pretty much this, there are all kind of different cultures with shitty birth rates and the one thing they usually have in common is their wealth

>Women are still expected to be housewifes after giving birth
Ugh, did they honestly just assign birthgiving to women only? Literally a racist shitload country

Sweden
Yes

>feminism in the west only add's up to declining birth rates.
Yeah I guess that's why iceland, the most feminist place on earth, also has the highest birthrate in Europe while japan who is on par with Armenia when it comes to gender equality has the lowest birthrate in the world

>Not that I want 3d women anymore.
So women who dont want to be feminine are evil misandrists? But its apparently ok for yourself, a man, to be so unmasculine that you completely give up the pursue of women?

I know facts and logic triggers you robots but cmon :^)

Yes women should all shave their heads and wear jumpsuits
Sexuality scares me and my small liberal brain

Our Minister of Health proposed a campaign against infertility and "late moms" (who end up with just one child), since the only thing stopping a decline in your demographic is our exceptional life expectation (but this is a burden on our public pension system too)

In less than 24 hrs a fuckload of empowered wymen spammed on "social media" that they can't pursue their career and whatnot whilst being "young moms" and nobody should remind them that chances to get a baby are dramatically low once they hit their (late) 30s

NOBODY SHOULD REMIND THEM

The campaign has been demoted

imho we need a motherfucking pope telling that if you don't reproduce you're going to hell or something, not a hippie pope telling that the bible "doesn't suggest you to reproduce like rabbits" (sic)

If even Catholics aren't procreationists any more, the only one left are muslims

#kalergi

>Iceland of all things
Iceland 1) is not in Europe 2) the total population of the island could barely fill a medium-sized city
Are you sure it's a statistical reference for... anything? 4k births are nothing.
Also, first result in Google
>icelandreview.com/news/2016/05/19/icelandic-birth-rate-never-lower
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Iceland
And I highly doubt in Iceland wymen try to get in a career like they do in other western countries.

Also, inbred as fuck

>1) is not in Europe
what

>2) the total population of the island could barely fill a medium-sized city
so?

>And I highly doubt in Iceland wymen try to get in a career like they do in other western countries.
Actually the number of women in the labour force is higher in iceland than any other country

>what
>if you're in the EEA you're in Europe
k
>so?
So it's not a statistical relevant sample size, and their birth rates are dramatically declining anyway
>labour force
Tell me more about their careers (and about their careers path) on such an empowered island, and how their jobs and career paths are totally similar to the ones in yurop.

Women are so damn stupid, dear god.

I wonder how long it will be hefore they cry that the older they have kids then the higher the liklihood of them being autists, is some sort of genetic oppression.

>since the only thing stopping a decline in your demographic
Are you going ethnic here?

Honestly, women are a cancer on this world. Get rid of all them and replace them with sexbots.
And then man will live happily ever after.

ethnic?
oh, a typo
It should have been
>since the only thing stopping a decline in OUR demographic

if you remind it you're oppressing them

>So it's not a statistical relevant sample size
Lol

>their birth rates are dramatically declining anyway
That is a lie

>Tell me more about their careers (and about their careers path) on such an empowered island, and how their jobs and career paths are totally similar to the ones in yurop.
They have almost abolished the gendergap

Immigration easily stops a decline in population though.

>bait.jpg

>In less than 24 hrs a fuckload of empowered wymen spammed on "social media" that they can't pursue their career and whatnot whilst being "young moms"
Its true though
How about we left the raising of children to the men while the women worked and we could see you robots would spam the same as they did

>western
men sexually objectifying women
women chimp out
men stop doing it, frustrated

>japan
men sexually objectifying women
women sexually objectifying men
both happy

I want to cum all over yomi's fat tits

Yomi!

based nippon

>American
You called?

What the fuck even are you and why are you autisming out at my post?

>men stop doing it

Only the cucks. And "objectification" is a BS Western term for "sexual arousal."

Just because you call something "sexist" doesn't make it so.

You dug too deep with this post, I think he realised you were just baiting.

Yes it is clearly thats not even a question it's well known.

Yomi is best senran

>lol
fluctuations on a 4k birth rate are statistically irrelevant
>lie
it's a truth, first two results in google. I even linked them, Magnus
>almost abolished the gendergap
how is this even remotely related to the kind of job positions we have in yurop? What kind of jobs do they have and what kind of jobs are required on such an island? Do they strive to be lawyers, economists, entrepreneurs and whatnot in big multinationals? Do they suffer hard competition on their jobs? Do they have to work extra hours and on off days to get that promotion?

>it's true
oh yes, it's true. Someone has to raise them. But God forbid! not women.
All these women wanting to marry unemployed men with the only desire to stay at home taking care of children! Oh God they are so many, I can't even count them. We're all robots, right.

>to be so unmasculine that you completely give up the pursue of women?

2d women are also women just in another dimension no need to be angry I know that logic and facts triggers feminists.

Different doesn't always mean sexist.

And I think traditional family values is good for a society.

>you just have to be culturally enriched
Sweden
Yes

Oh wait it's straya

The kind of immigration we would get is not the kind of immigration you can get
The only "white" immigrants are Rumanian gypsies, the other ones are niggers with barely first-grade education, and 99% of these guys are ISIS extremists striving to get into the Caliphate of France or into Germoney

I don't even know why we're "rescuing" them (picking them up directly in Libya) any more

>The obesseion with stereotypical gender roles
LMAO it's not only limited to WOMEN. Nobody allows MEN to be househusband(?) or something like.

lel all I'm saying is that it's not hard to maintain the population if the fertility rate is below 2.

Wow a woman being sexy. So sexist.

Natural selection has decided it over hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.

Madoka's dad

>making girls cute instead of strong
we have portrayed career women as well. but in most cases they look unhappy though. after all, how do they go happy in battle field where people are competing hard and struggling?

lol that's anime. I almost forgot the plot though.

You don't understand, THIS is sexy

>Women are still expected to be housewifes after giving birth, effectively ending their career.

Becuase having both parents working is so much better for a child, amirite?

You didn't have both parents working?

Nope. Mom didn't start working until the children were adults.

If it were sexist why is nearly every rock band (not j-rock bullshit) in Japan consist of at least one female member, a lot of the time being all female.

Why are some of the most popular animes full of strong independent women?

My mom is same. she started working as part timer when I'm 10 or so though.

That's so weird though. It's like you're missing out on half of an income.

>independent women
because almost all of them are single, isn't it?

At least she was still around. Here in Burgerland there's a phenomenon we call "latchkey kids" -- children who have keys to the house because neither parent is home.

>Japanese men still can't cope with strong women.

I don't get it. Senran Kagura is full of strong women, it's a feminist show.

>weird [in the West]

Which is sad.

>strong women

Sexism is a good thing.

>fluctuations on a 4k birth rate are statistically irrelevant
No it isnt
even if it was, the nordic countries have much higher birthrate than both you and japan

>how is this even remotely related to the kind of job positions we have in yurop?
If the gendergap is abolished it must mean that the women have high paying jobs and work extra hours

>All these women wanting to marry unemployed men with the only desire to stay at home taking care of children! Oh God they are so many, I can't even count them. We're all robots, right.
See? now you are sperging out because i said men could just as well raise the children

>2d women are also women just in another dimension no need to be angry
wew lad
what if women compeltely gave up men and giving birth/rasing children and instead played games where you did that
would that be ok?
its ok to be proven wrong
you dont have to be bitter

same here 20 years ago. they are called "key-ish child" and not so rare. there was another school for afterschool time programs near elementary school they go to.

>what if women compeltely gave up men and giving birth/rasing children and instead played games where you did that
>what if

nigga

>that doujinshi where yomi trains ikaruga to become a slut

Rising living standards is probably an indirect cause. Comfort makes people mushy-headed, hedonistic and selfish, and that in turn leads to anti-traditional socialisation, producing shit women, weak men, and therefore no babies.

>the water tank's running low!
>that's okay, just top it up with bleach!
Sure you have a full tank, but good luck drinking from it.
A nation is better off with its own, dwindling population than with hordes of foreigners. At least in the former case it may recover.

Not the same population.

All decent mothers stop working (or at least substantially reduce their employment responsibilities) until their children are finished with primary school. There's a very narrow slice of the lower class, just above the dole-bludger parasites (who stay at home anyway), who are poor enough to value the extra income higher than raising their children properly.

It's even weirder to abandon one's child to strangers or the agents of the state.

>what if

Don't really care. What if hitler won ww2? huh? I don't really care what you do, but the point stands that men are more attracted to femininity and not masculinity

I read some statistic in The Economist (I forget the issue -- I think it was this month or last) where children are born out of wedlock to only 2% of women in Japan, but 40% in the UK.

post

what?

>ikaruga
>(((become))) a slut

With only one exception, the only families I know where both parents work full time are families with divorced parents

And kids are "parked" @ grandma's

That's another social conquer of our times

The only exception is a family in need for that extra salary

>latchkey kids
that's even worse

>No it isn't
Yes, it is, I even linked two articles you didn't read. One of those was fucking wikipedia.
>even if it was, nordics
Oh nice goal shifting. Yes, nordics in general have higher birth rates.

>if the gendergap
You didn't even attempt to reply and you aren't interested to reply, nor to investigate the difference in the job market.

>you are sperging
You're the only one sperging here.

Have a fine day, Magnus

...

He's Danish.

He's probably on welfare because of brain problems.

> Not that I want 3d women anymore.
You should have children if you don't want certain immigrants to become majority in your country.

>Magnus
It's a probably a hamplanet

its not a what if famalama ding dong
girls and guys are beginning not to care, we say we don't like it, but at this rate AI really will govern our daily lives (not that I mind)

amen

wtf I hate Japan now

they had an extremely high birthrate (for european standards) just a few years ago
they can easily regain it again

>Oh nice goal shifting
what

>You didn't even attempt to reply and you aren't interested to reply, nor to investigate the difference in the job market.
but i did

Sorry 2D anime girls are more attractive

wew okay lad

>Rising living standards is probably an indirect cause.

No really, it's known to be the cause that income is related to family size, not only historically. Historically the use of contraception also helps.

>Comfort makes people mushy-headed, hedonistic and selfish, and that in turn leads to anti-traditional socialisation, producing shit women, weak men, and therefore no babies.
None of this is a reason why families would choose to have less children.

>A nation is better off with its own, dwindling population than with hordes of foreigners. At least in the former case it may recover.
Works well enough in most cases.

>All decent mothers stop working
>(or at least substantially reduce their employment responsibilities)
Those are two completely different scenarios. When you have children that's an increase in expense, and women being employed less is a decrease in income. That's an overall reduction in living standards.
>until their children are finished with primary school
So you're basically just saying what I'm saying then.
>It's even weirder to abandon one's child to strangers or the agents of the state.
No idea what you're on about.

I know, right?

>key-ish child
How do you even say this in Japanese? I guess 鍵っ子

>While I don't like cute women, I like them feminine

These two are pretty interchangeable in many cases.

that's it. かぎっこ

and my English is terrible as fuck so I never think that's relevant translation.

I don't want manly, but i do want women that have ambition and dreams of her own. But what i see is that all women are lazy ass bastards that want to live off of money and doing nothing.

>inb4, but raising kids it's a lot of work.

Fuck that shit. There's 7 billion people in the world, there's no need to bring another child into it. It's easier to adopt a kid between 6 to 12 yo.

Pardon? When did all the world stop being sexist?

We just let our women choose how they want to live their lives (housewives is the most popular career option for them) and let them look what they want to be like anyway.
Our society is balanced as a whole. That's the most important part where the west won't be able to understand after religionizing progressive witch-hunt liberalism.

Women are physically and mentally specialized to raise children, as a consequence of the fact that they must gestate and bear children. According to the models developed by egalitarian and nobel prize winning economist Ernst Becker even a small difference in specialization between the genders for one to favor household work versus market work would result in sizable differences of outcome in workplace participation. That's why the average wage gap in nordic countries is still 11%. The smallest in the world, despite cultural marxist propaganda being inculcated from the time of early education.

>It's easier to adopt a kid between 6 to 12 yo.
cuck

Kagikko/latchkey kid is probably a lot less common in Japan than in the USA.

And if I can understand you, then you can speak English well.

That is a good thing. My penis feels attracted by cute women, therefore increasing the chance of having babies and keeping the existence of humanity.

Without cuties Japan would disappear in 3 decades.

t. Expert in this stuff

>the west won't be able to understand after religionizing progressive witch-hunt liberalism

Some of us haven't fallen for progressive bullshit and can understand that. The liberals tend to be the loudest over here though.

Increased ethnic diversity has been shown to reduce trust and cohesion in societies. Naturally, the most imperialistic or parasitic culture or bloodline will overthrow the host culture once a critical point has been reached - with the period leading up to that point being marked by increasing social conflict and breakdown.

How could this not be the case? The bloodline which does not strive after it's own interests will not pass on its heritage or genetics and will be eliminated by Darwinian principles.

>women are expected to fulfill their biological function and take care of the child after it is born
>sexism

this is a christian imageboard
I can't post these things

>Ikaruga doujin
DELET REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SHE'S A CLASS REP. FOR A REASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

The increase in global population is entirely due to the third world. Developed nations, Europeans, and North East Asians are in population decline. Adoption is dysgenic and unethical, why raise the child of someone so stupid or drug abuser that they could not raise their own kin? Such people should not reproduce.

Also, a woman who wants to bear and raise children is not lazy, but rather a noble and responsible person. Her form of fair compensation is by being provided for by the man. This is the natural social system which evolved independently on every culture on earth from the prehistoric time.

>le trust and cohesion meme
kekmate buddy

Don't take anime seriously.

Fuck off white pigs.

You are the most hypocrites.

You talk white race superior to black because of IQ, crime rate, divorce rate, university acceptance rate, when we Japanese have higher IQ, lower crime rate, lower divorce, higher university than you. Not to mention we not as immoral like you.

All white can brag about is how they was kings, they have bigger penis when that is precisely what that to complain to that blacks/negros.

You talk like barbaric savage, "ooga booga imma immigrate Japan", "ooga booga imma fuck all Japanese pussy", "ooga booga aaaah" like fucking negroes and blacks in your very own country which is what you dislike most.

Tokyo 2020, will be of that the last straw of the desert... When people finally become realize you are stupid. And the Parliament as they have of been discuss to ban citizenship to gaijin marry native Japanese, they will enact law and make it become ban for that. And Japan will turn more xenophobic than ever, because your thoughts are actions that become thoughts for Japan.

well, a few of our women, independent women, including manga artist god mad to UN that insisted that Japan should ban part of Anime/Manga because those were offensive to women.

It's kinda interesting and ironic that western pop culture and media have always been common synonyms for sexism and perversion in Japan. (part of the reason why the turtle hermit from Dragon Ball was accompanied with western pornography as a prop, to make it easier for readers to understand his character)

I don't know how this phenomenon or stereotype has started, but most Japanese people still do think foreigners are more erotic and overly horny all the time and love to sexualize everything. And thus much higher rape crime rate in foreign countries.
Probably because it seems to us almost every western film has at least one very detailed, long sex scene in it. Even music promotion videos are full of naughty petting and naked bed scenes lately.

White nationalists love Japan, 선배

not an argument. Evidence that is opposes you. Answer my question. How could it not be the case that the bloodline which does not promote it's own self interest will disappear? This also applies to culture which doesn't protect itself. Both evidence and logic defeat you.

Anime promotes pedophilia. What does pedophilia and huge age gap has to do with traditional gender roles?

And yet here in America, society is more prudish overall when it comes to media, with Japanese stuff being censored regularly.

But when it comes to sex IRL, I've heard Americans are more amorous (at least according to condom sales).

As for rape statistics, from what I've seen, the countries that are more permissive when it comes to porn (like Japan aside from the ancient censorship laws that are still on the books for some reason) tend to have less rape.

> Anime promotes pedophilia
But it's not. I've got older sister fetish cause of animes

This is an example of what is called "bait."

>All white can brag about is how they was kings, they have bigger penis when that is precisely what that to complain to that blacks/negros.
The British Empire, for example, actually existed, whereas the Negroes were never the Aegyptian Pharaohs (or anything more than brute savages). The meme is about the Negroes making stuff up. If they really had a glorious history, that would be genuinely impressive - but they don't, so their "boasting" is sad delusion.

>like fucking negroes and blacks in your very own country
We don't have any.

>And the Parliament as they have of been discuss to ban citizenship to gaijin marry native Japanese, they will enact law and make it become ban for that. And Japan will turn more xenophobic than ever, because your thoughts are actions that become thoughts for Japan.
That would be a good thing, I think. I hope my country can enact similar policies to protect the nation from foreign incursion.

>Anime promotes pedophilia
pedos always say like this

Cred Forums is a weeb site dedicated to anime which has the highest % of pedos. Coincidence? All the pedos on this site post anime as well, just look at pedopole on polska.

>Anime promotes pedophilia
This, I used to be a normal heterosexual man and now I want to fuck 2d little boys.

Explain Ukraine

You already had this thoughts, but you oppressed them cause our society told you that this is a bad thing.

Then it brought it out in me.

Non-pedos into animu still outnumber pedos into animu.

>watching cartoons with little sexualized girls
>not being pedo
pls

Too fat

That implies that all or most sexualized anime girls are children.

That implies that all sexualized anime girls are children.

Isn't rape stats in Japan likely warped by non-reporting?

I've heard that even with the unreported rapes, it's still less than here in the USA. Americans who travel over there often say they felt safe.

> women happy
Explain pls

not sweden

Every country has more or less unreported crimes, and our police department and news media have a lot of women in them so it's impossible for them to ignore so many rape cases in today's Japan.

Also even though rape victims/survivors who are alive mentally/physically wounded may want their horrendous experiences hidden from anyone else, the fact we hardly see news of families looking for their missing daughters or bodies of raped women found in the bush, which obviously can't keep themselves forever undiscovered on their own being dead, suggests we does actually have few rapes overall I guess.

It is important that women raise good kids.

to tell the truth, its japanese women who want to remain to be housewives, though

Women suck at raising kids, cuck.

>cuck
Lmao what does this word even mean any more?

Single parent households are trash, plain and simple.

>Single parent households are trash, plain and simple.

If your goal was making me cringe you succeeded.

Good argument