Why do some Eurocunts against the TTIP?
TTIP = More concurrence
More concurrence = Lower prices
Lower prices = Higher consumption
More consumption = Higher production
Higher production = More workers
More workers = Lower unemployment rate
= Economic growth
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american pig with proxy
>t. American Proxy: the country
show me what is in it.
>courts without judges, but with business men, that are above national laws
>a freeze on laws and are not allowed to make new laws
>regulations get lowered to american standards, including American food standards
>it becomes illegal to regulate things like fossil fuels
>privatized things like water, health care and education is not allowed to be nationalized again
geeh great treaties
Everything america touches turns to shit.
Don't know what TTIP even is but I'm against it.
TTIP = WW3
American goods are subpar.
Hershey's chocolate proves that.
I see the green jews have got to you
We suck the life out of them
In that case, join America's side
One product doesn't mean all of them are? And. Hershey chocolate? Are you 6?
Oy vey, don't forget all those excellent copyright laws that would be enacted Abraham! Can't let the goyim get things for free.
t. Johnny Merican
Gas the burgers t b h.
Americans dislike TTIP more than the EU does though.
Both presidential candidates are extremely against it.
Our news (so basically our government) say that TTIP basically put corporations over national regulators and governments. And american corporations are
1. Simply bigger and stronger than europeans
2. Are heavily weaved with american government that doubles the power
Therefore as they said TTIP leads to strengthening american corporations and killing european ones and also basicallt rebuulding all europeans standarts of quality and such stuff that are currently superior to american ones.
^
I'm actually right wing conservative.
But that doesn't mean we should privatize the little water we have or poison it for peanuts worth of shale gas. Nor do I want to give up our sovereignty for corporate shills.
It's easy to understand why some europeans are against it since they know european companies don't stand a chance against their american counterparts but I literally have zero idea why there are americans who are against it. You would literally lose nothing and gain everything.
TTIP is needed to boost commerce and trade between countries so China, India and the developing countries do not overwhelm the US in the future.
Its not so bad except for specific industries kept alive through tariffs. Its also necessary unless eurocucks want to completely replace atlantic trade for pacific ones and have american security withdrawn from the region.
Do I have to eat genetic hormone shit if TTIP becomes a reality?
I'm pretty sure our government gives 0 fucks about the rise of China or India.
We're a trade nation. We always win.
No.
But you also won't know if your food contains GMO stuff because they won' have to declare it.
what a huge bait
Pretty much that.
Our social, labour, cultural, regulatory, quality standards and so on are radically from that of USA. So either they upgrade theirs to meet ours or we downgrade ours to meet theirs.
Considering they won't even make the slightest effort in upgrading their Detroits and the flammable tap water half of their midwest is currently drinking due to le happy regulatory fracking laws for le happy murican oil corps, we can conclude we're in a dead end here as we're not putting up with that kind of shit here.
I'm more worried about rotten meat that has been bleached being sold here
So i just stop to eat?
You'll just have to eat chlorine chickens.
nope you were a trade nation when you were strong enough to set rules or call the shots. now you just play along like all the small countries.
the brits and euros no-long have the ability to set trade rules imo. americans do currently but regional trade blocs are forming and america wants to undo china+russia+india trade blocs.
*radically different
Chlorine doesn't remove the genetic hormone shit.
hurr dey take are jobs we should just stop trading
Russia can't even get it's oil out of the ground without us.
americans have no idea what TTIP is
meanwhile europe has massive protests against it
The protest against GM foods on health grounds is pseudoscience.
There's no reason for a country to respect the desires of cranks and nutjobs by devoting so much as an iota of attention to the concern.
>Both presidential candidates are extremely against it
You are so easily fooled
>Higher production = More workers
>More workers = Lower unemployment rate
that's right laowa-- err... guys. Don't you want a job?
russia is still big and strong enough to set rules, and has a pretty tight geographic bloc with central asia.
together they are like half the size of the old world with fucktons of resources. they are going to dictate who gets what.
I don't want to eat that shit and don't want that it's sold or planted anywhere. Science can say it's good, science can say it's bad.
well then, I guess you have nothing to hide and can proudly label your products as high quality GMOs ^^
>americans have no idea what TTIP is
You're an idiot
money.cnn.com
Being against 'free trade' agreements that fuck us over is being fooled?
The funny thing is Dutch agriculture prides itself on high tech agriculture, including selling genetically manipulated seeds.
But we have a just in time economy. Food goes straight from the land to the stores on the same day. And people buy food for 1 to 3 days. So people don't want preservatives or artificial flavours added. It's very big in marketing to buy pure stuff. But that pure stuff is genetically modified most likely.
>I literally have zero idea why there are americans who are against it.
It undermines our job security, working conditions, and wages as NAFTA managed to do.
>rotten meat that has been bleached
They do this in Europe? That's shit we've banned since 1910
>So people don't want preservatives or artificial flavours
I get that, and it's reasonable. Not wanting who knows what pesticide on your crop isn't GMO though.
Talking about how it's unhealthy to stuff chickens full of antibiotics is different than talking about how it's unhealthy to make blueberries bigger. If you're worried about kids hitting puberty at 11, it isn't because the watermelons are seedless.
You niggers need to worry about CETA more than TTIP, the former actually has a chance of passing now.
but it creates MORE JOBS
never mind the quality
>But it creates MORE JOBS
True, for Mexicans :^)
TTIP would be a final nail in the coffin. For the first time I would be out there protesting against EU and calling for referendum to leave it.
For me it was the refugee crisis. Not the refugee flow itself, but the European incompetence in addressing it.
It's a shame that Europe is undemocratic, but then you at least expect some quick and weighted decisions in return. But we get neither.
I also got pissed during this refugee crisis. But thankfully I got a hold of myself, because most of the immigrants either left before/during winter and we only accepted about 20% of them anyway.
Also:
>According to a The Guardian report, TTIP draft leaked in 2016 shows "irreconcilable" differences between EU and the US in some areas, with the US demanding that EU compromise its "environmental, consumer protection and public health standards".
If EU leaders are so stupid that they start making one way deals, this continent literally has no hope left.
Except it does not you dumb fuck. There is zero incentive for companies to move their core production to europe as they did when mexico opened up and american job security is already nonexistent compared to EU countries and at worst your wages might increase when european markets are completely opened for american companies to pillage.
Like I said, zero idea.
>Both presidential candidates are extremely against it.
Only one is really against it.
And its not the coporate sHILL who benefits from it.
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I wonder who could be behind this post
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>TTIP/TPP = Overall economic growth
kys jewfag cuck
>There is zero incentive for companies to move their core production to europe as they did when mexico opened up
Europe and the EU includes shit tier post-commie countries like Romania, Bulgaria, Lituania etc.
>and american job security is already nonexistent compared to EU countries
Compared to the worst EU member states, our job security and wages are far, far better, especially for our dominant industries like Computer science and healthcare. Wages you find people getting paid in places like Lithuania and Latvia would be extremely illegal in the US. We stand a good chance of getting fucked over by multinational companies that have NO allegiance to any country.
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Here u go American friend
>Germany’s Vice-Chancellor said in 14 rounds of talks neither side had agreed on a single common chapter out of the 27 being deliberated
Thank fugin dog
They did it deliberately. They thought there is a chance to increase the population in the EU. They thought this would be beneficial for companies and land owners. So instead of protecting Europe's borders against unarmed invaders they let the asylum shopping happen.
>believing Clinton
Your news isn't wrong on that.
What do you think Boeing is? A free market company?
>The UK was seen as one of the strongest supporters of TTIP in the EU, so its departure following the Brexit vote would remove one of the US's closest allies in the talks.
At least we got rid of the american trojan
>inplying TPP will be passed
>either you accept TTIP or we stop trading
You know what. First I didn't like brexit at all. But now it seems like it was obviously the best for all of us.
But user
WHO CARES THAT IT DESTROYS 50,000 high paying jobs because IT CREATES 100,000 low paying jobs!
50,000 new jobs!
>independent.co.uk
For those on the continent that is :^)
It's sort of weird they sperg out over the EU so much, while also deepthroating american cock 24/7
>It's a shame that Europe is undemocratic, but then you at least expect some quick and weighted decisions in return. But we get neither.
Same here. We literally have done nothing since 2010 (because of both parties).
>like Romania, Bulgaria, Lituania etc.
All better than Mexico.
(Well maybe not Bulgaria).
Regardless, these cunts have 30-40 million people.
Mexico has 170 million.
To be fair, you don't have to agree on the chapters to agree on the trade deal.
That stuff is settled later through the arbitration court the two sides set up.
They'll be in long enough to get TTIP passed and then they'll bail on you guys.
Sloppy seconds
The EU is full of communism. There is no way that the TTIP will pass on this side, or in fact anything else that promotes free markets. This continent is doomed to become a completely irrelevant shithole. Just like the China and India were great once, the same will happen here.
they've always held onto some delusion of being "equal partners" with america rather than a lap dog.
british news and media obsess over americans while americans do not care and remain quite insulated from world news. which also explains their general low-level of knowledge.
its pretty pathetic.
Have you read the articles?
The EU is objectively more of a free market than America.
What a dumb post.
>More concurrence = Lower prices
= local farmers are fucked, because they're already selling low and when European market gets flooded with even cheaper GMO crap they'll go bankrupt. Plus even more of the local capital will go abroad.
>Lower prices = Higher consumption
So people will eat more veggies just because they are cheaper? That's not how it works. They'll east as much as they do know, they'll just switch to the cheaper ones, pushing the more expensive local stuff out of the market.
>= Economic growth
Yeah, for USA corporations, not for us.