This thread is for the discussion of the language, culture, travel, daily life, etc. of Japan. Let's tark at randam in Japanese and English. Take it easy!
The definition of し is different on both of these pages. I learned that し means から but し implies the reason is one of (possibly) many. This is the meaning in the second link (Tae Kim). The first translates し to "and." For example, the sentence
今日はテニスもしたし、映画も見た
appears in the first link. There it is translated as
"I not only played tennis but also saw a movie today."
I would have translated this as
"Today I played tennis, therefore I saw a movie."
My question is, which translations are correct?
Joshua Hernandez
the first one
Lucas King
おはよー、童貞たち! 今日、元気?
Anthony Smith
I'M SLAMMIN JAPS LIKE SHAQUILLE SHIT IS REAL WHEN IT'S TIME TO EAT A MEAL I ROB AND STEAL
Isaiah Murphy
おはよー! 今日も元気に朝立ちした
Jacob Morris
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Christopher Brooks
The first sentence is correct, but Tae Kim one doesn't say that し means から
I used to say Domou to cashiers at Conbini, but I was told that it was arrogant and so now I compensate and say ARIGTOUU GOZAIMASU, but now i get laughed at. On top of that, someone said I sound feminine if I say Arigatou. Why didn't I study mandarin?
Gavin Rogers
I know how to use chopsticks and I fap to moe anime girls feet 3 times a day, so yeah, I'm basically a nihonjin now.
Gavin Thomas
just don't say anything like the japs do, you don't have to speak to japs as a foreigner, they're below you
Kayden Lopez
最上もがちゃん
Blake Fisher
it's not the words you say but the the gaijinness in your exterior appearances shining through
Christopher Wilson
You're not supposed to say anything. Get your shit and go.
Noah Roberts
※同一人物です。
Thomas Reed
I want plastic surgery...
Xavier Powell
thanks for the reply.
this is difficult for me. I'm not really sure what's confusing me. here is a snapshot from my book. I don't really know what し is.
it doesn't mean から. can it specify a reason like から?
Daniel Watson
BLACKED
Brayden Allen
...
Andrew Taylor
But I like flat chests.
Alexander Young
Yes, Japanese can become black in summer. And there was a black who became a samurai in the ruling class.
Nathaniel Nelson
please help someone. this is making me question reality (thought I learned it forever ago, but I learned it wrong)
Anthony Cruz
>No. Life here in Japan is good, and I have good friends here. (So) I don't want to go back.
Even if you read the above sentence without "so," you still understand that the preceding sentence is explaining the reasons why you don't want to go back from the context. 「し」 is the same. Without 「(だ)から」or「なので」, 「し」 is used to mention reasons for a sentence followed after.
Lincoln Morgan
Murikan like darker one Indian prefer whiter one
Parker Rodriguez
I normally don't say anything and just nod and smile if they're qt girls to break their roboticness.
Andrew Scott
There is no need to remember し as meaning reason.し always mean and.
Blake Torres
Dark skin is unattractive, SJWs in Americuck are just fooling themselves.
Connor Harris
i remember visiting tokyo a few years ago and going into a lawson. i bought a bento box meal and the jap cashier made a motion and pointed to the microwave, as if asking if i wanted the meal to be heated up.
i said "hai!" and he laughed at me too.
fucking nips
Michael Mitchell
but then wouldn't this translation be correct?
今日はテニスもしたし、映画も見た "Today I played tennis, so I saw a movie."
I realize it sounds dumb. in the real world playing tennis wouldn't be a reason to watch tv. but wouldn't this be correct syntactically?
Hudson Ward
In this particular case, I think she looks better darker, but for a lot of j-girls, I prefer the pale look as an American.
Ayden Diaz
if I always translated it to "and" then what would be the difference in し and just using the て form?
Joseph Green
I meant to reply to you
Wyatt Russell
>syntactically correct Yes. See
Dylan Green
>but I was told that it was arrogant
>saying thank you is arrogant what what is this magical fairy land
>A conjunction to indicate 'and' in an emphatic way. And what's more; not only~but also~; so
Alexander Anderson
I know right, I tried being less formal in order in order to be more friendly and approachable.
Chase Edwards
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Gavin Davis
Thai poster is watching you
Aaron Reed
is it bad to put emphasis on particles when reading? I do it as if there was an accent there, not as strong as a real accent though.
Adrian Nguyen
>syntactically correct >yes thanks. I forgot to read the other thread.
thanks.
I think I need to study more to fully understand the nuances of し. I'm going to put that off for later because I'm lazy and tired.
Parker Reed
下はフォトショ? 上のを金髪にしたのがもがだよね
Brandon Hill
Just remember し is basically "and" or "and also." - し is colloquial. I hardly use it for writing. - し can be vague "because," but ~から, ~なので etc. are better to be clear. - し is mandatory when you are giving one or more reasons, except for the last one. e.g. 風呂にも入ったし、歯も磨いたし、オナニーもした(し/から)、もう寝よう。
Jaxon Sanchez
プギャ━━━━━━m9(^Д^)━━━━━━!!!!!!
Bentley Diaz
>i get laughed at By whom?
Parker Sanchez
...
Easton Roberts
are ISPs strict here? my wifi was blocking a lot of "unsafe" sites earlier including here but now its open again
Grayson Hernandez
what city?
Elijah Allen
Please don't post this again
Gavin Nguyen
~し、~から Can someone teach me how to use this? I confuse if you get 2 or more reasons to use this which sentence you can put も in the sentence.
Leo Perry
あのカボチャを食べたい
Grayson Ross
A little more about に、が、で、を what is different about these? Thanks
Carter Nguyen
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John Lopez
>expecting japs to help you
kek
Brandon Gray
Noob here, but from what we've covered in class: に is for time or beneficiaries、が is like "and" for adjectives、で is how you did something、を is for the verb 何時に行きますか
東京は面白いですが賑やかです
毎日電車で学校を行きます
Wyatt Miller
Cashier and I live in Tokyo. I know it's overkill, but is it silly to use it with cashiers?
Ethan Bailey
i live in tokyo too and I always say arigatou gozaimasu to the cashier in conbini, but they never laugh. maybe you have a funny accent?
I've never been laughed at or even smiled at in Japan. Giggled at, sure.
Daniel Flores
Name localizing is actually lots of fun to do. I guess you can even localize your last name. Mine means cat, but I'm not sure if last names with "neko" even exist. I'd probably get bullied into oblivion.
Camden Wright
This is true, along with the constant need for verification. I was hoping to have solved it before I came to Japan for the first time.
I should have written giggle instead of laugh.
So the general consensus = that it's appropriate??
Christian Phillips
I mean giggled at coyly by chickybabes. ;)
If the people in the shop were giggling then it probably just means they were pleased that you (a foreigner, no less!) were showing some manners.
There are competing hierarchies. You can't really say "doumo" if you're talking up to someone, and while it's never bad to be polite, saying "arigatou gozaimasu" might be a bit odd in certain circumstances. Essentially, customer > staff, so "doumo" is okay; but older > younger, so "doumo" is not okay if the staff is older than you. Probably, because the key part of the interaction is customer/staff, rather than age-based, "doumo" is appropriate - but there'd be no harm in saying "arigatou gozaimasu" anyway. And of course there's no problem at all if you're a 60-year-old man saying "doumo" to a teen-aged check-out-chick.
There's nothing wrong with having manners.
Thomas Perez
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Bentley Cruz
How to localize your name: 1) Look up the etymology of your own name. 2) Feed the keyword into google, followed by "japanese name" 3) Fuck 3D females and watch a European cartoon such as Noddy to diminish the humiliating, weeaboo feeling
Ryder Rivera
Dis moi ton prénom je suis curieux t'inquiètes pas les prénoms français sont tous communs personne ne pourra te repérer
Kevin Taylor
Thanks for that explanation and proof of why Japanese far exceeds the difficulty of every language, except Korean unless you include the timesink of Kanji, which is overrated.
I've tried doing this but I'm not entirely sure what my surname means because muh diversity. There are about four different possible meanings I've been able to find, one of which is toponymic (and I don't know the meaning of the relevant place name).
小餅, 小米 (tried to approximate "bread") 小魚 Or something with 藻 in it (can't find any existing names with both this and 小 or anything like that).
Have a Japanese girlfriend who goes to her home for a week. She asked me what she can buy for me over there. Thought about cup noodles, milktea and kinako chocolate. Anything else I'm missing? Any instant ramen that is really really good?
Asher Collins
>new Noddy Christ that's dreadful.
Jason Parker
「君が選んでくれるなら何でもいい」
Leo Richardson
おるかー?
Andrew Roberts
こんにちは、鉄新kun
Charles Ortiz
approximately, mine would be nekoya atsuko, but that sounds incredibly awkward. I'm off to watch more Noddy.
Parker Gray
*鉄津くん
Aaron Jones
gf「トゥンク
Jason James
ほうほう、成程 古風で男らしい良い名前じゃないか。 「興味津々」の「津」だね。
Ayden Moore
I have a weeaboo friend who keeps telling me about how he wants to move to Japan and become a farmer. This is completely delusional and unrealistic because he speaks no Japanese and he knows nothing about farming.
He is currently working as a programmer and he should pay off his sudent debt in the next few years, so I have suggested that he learns Japanese and applies for a programming job in Japan.
How feasible would it be for him to achieve this? Would he need to arrange a job before he moves over? Would they deport him for being a weeb?
Oliver Evans
はぁはぁ… ロシア人レイプしてえよぉ
Bentley Brown
Quite feasible, yes for visa purposes, sadly no. Also tell him that he can take up farming as a hobby when he retires, or he can try to marry in to a farming family with no sons. Once he's there with a working visa he can change jobs as he pleases.
Elijah Long
Being a programmer in Japan would be shit compared to New Zealand.
Joshua Richardson
(ФωФ) ニャー
Sebastian Martin
朋有り遠方より来たる、亦た楽しからずや
Jace Fisher
What a weirdly elaborate "asking for a friend" post.
Don't do it, dude.
Parker Flores
日本のオノマトペは豊だ 「~もしたし、~もした」の訳として not only but also は、よいが それは、係助詞「も」による並立の強調 「し」は、本来はサ変の連用止めから派生 したことばで 基本の意味は順接であり、完了の助動詞「た」と組み合わせて 組み合わて「原因」ではなく「結果」を表す表現となる 「から」とは置換できない なお、「た」は「~たなら」というように未来も含め 完了を表すのが本来 また、「したので」の方言で「したし」を用いることがあるが 過去完了の結果であって、「原因」ではない
>I have a weeaboo friend who keeps telling me about how he wants to move to Japan and become a farmer Please tell me it's all your made-up story. It's too much painful to hear... My body is itchy now
Jose Cruz
It would have to be an arranged marriage, he's not very sociable. Thanks for the useful advice. Im guessing that's why he wanted to be a farmer. His job is pretty nice 9-5 with almost no overtime. The pay is also pretty good. I know it seems suspicious but it's seriously not me. I have already told him that he should at least visit Japan on a holiday or something before he tries to move there. Neat. I'll defiantly send him this link. Thanks!
Asher Anderson
great taste
William Diaz
thank you (ФωФ)
Evan Rogers
I'm surprised that ヌルヌル isn't there.
Cooper Taylor
this looks fun
Leo Diaz
Are ya winnin', son?
Aaron Stewart
ぬるぬる isn't a sound its an adjective
Jayden Ross
J*ps?
Nolan Roberts
Oh, that would explain it then. Pardon my ignorance.
It's illegal to eat kiwi because Maori keep eating all the animals. They ate all the Moa
Matthew Morris
で?どっちが勝つのよ?
Austin Foster
tastes like chicken or something?
Nathan King
I bet Hillary
Juan Johnson
nooooo!
Brayden Nguyen
i just came home 何故、嘘をつく必要がある? 携帯で長文を書いていれば不自然なスペースなんて当然だろ 自分の腐った脳を基準に考えるな コピペというならコピペ元を示せ このパラレという単語を見るたびにデリタのパロールを思い出す 最近のはやりだが、異なる言語構造を持つと。認識の枠組みそのものが違うという考えがあるが至当だね くりきんとんもどなるどもいらねー
Tyler Brown
>They ate all the Moa does the Maori eat Moa-metal? 鳥のMoaだとわかってるけど気になる
Carter Phillips
They also eat little Japanese boys like you
Nicholas Torres
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Brody Ortiz
I heard Aussie used Kiwi for fapping Boku no Pico Moaは強い!
Jaxon Harris
>They also eat little Japanese boys like you He's ossan
Evan Nelson
He is legendary salaryman
Only normie in this thread
Daniel Wright
Death gotta be easy 'cause life is hard It'll leave you physically, mentally and emotionally scarred
Jason Howard
But Yui is stronger than Moa
Jordan Peterson
Such hype in the height of that era
Nigga please. Yui is a twig.
Hunter Sanders
me
Jackson Sullivan
>Yui is a twig. 最近、急に艶っぽくなった どちらかと言えば妖艶なのが本当
Jonathan Gutierrez
Memes aside moa would mollywhop the shit out of yui and su irl tbqhwyf
Carter Gomez
why are nu-males so common in japan? What causes this phenomenon?
Lucas Parker
I wouldn't call them nu-males because they don't seem to be very liberal.
Carter Gray
If you're on a busy train in Tokyo, statistically speaking AT LEAST 1 woman will have done JAV.
The more you know...
Adam Sanders
Is Kobayashi the weakest?
Anthony Scott
フランス語マスター
Grayson Gutierrez
おでん食べたい
Carter Thomas
I don't think so. He had to be held back by security from fighting with a Japanese fan at a show during the US tour.
Isaac Gonzalez
About Japan, for poor Thai-Brit, more you know, the more miserable you are
are you the world famous white guy who lives in a 1sqm room in tokio?
Carson Phillips
It's about 1.5sqm m8. At least it's not in Peru.
Isaac Watson
>It's about 1.5sqm hardcore
Jacob Lopez
Totally. Asses have potential. That's why I prefer asses. Anyone can improve them by exercises like squatting, while tits are very hard to improve them.
Joshua James
stupid gals think she will become an AV actoress too~~ if everyone do it if so, it's WINWIN for that
Leo Sanders
>as good as mine >my life here would improve I saw something contradictory at your post.
Aaron Thomas
Thanks for translating, now it will convince foreigners!
Robert Peterson
Still haven't watched it lmao
Robert Davis
They were both terrible. I don't think there was a clear winner.
At least they made Hillary look healthy.
Ryan Carter
ええやん 汗がエロい 二次元なら10folodは軽く埋めてやるけど
Chase Edwards
There wasn't a clear winner but a clear loser.
Thomas Hughes
>There wasn't a clear winner but a clear loser. Yes - America.
Please follow me on Twitter. I-I have a birthday party coming up too, if you want to come.
Austin Flores
dont watch it f
at one point he called her mean and it wasn't just once, he kept going on about it and saying he isn't doing mean ads about her but she is and she has been very mean
he left so much shit on the table even when he had huge openings to backfire but instead he was more worried about defending his ego.
Julian Foster
SURE HERE IS A PIC OF ME BTW
Asher Collins
furansujin3
Easton Roberts
I think Jeb would've made a better president than Bernie.
Better girls Even less competition Lots of uni students Comfy snow
>Reasons Against Sapporo
???
Nathaniel Gray
>Reasons Against Sapporo
Lots of uni students (especially foreign ones) Dodgy sex trade and gambling Cold
Caleb Edwards
ナチの超兵器で地球ごとオーブンにかけられてるから
Ryder Flores
考えてたらわからなくなった。そっちかも
Cooper Anderson
いや、リロードしたら納得の返信があったよ に共感しましたよ
Eli Perry
>Lots of uni students (especially foreign ones) >Cold
why is this bad
>Dodgy sex trade and gambling
>implying the yaks aren't everywhere
besides japs on here seem to have a huge hate boner for osaka
Parker Bennett
Most students (especially foreign ones) are dipshits.
Cold weather is colder than not-cold weather.
Sapporo is notorious for it though, Osaka is just Corian.
Aaron Turner
夏の最後のあがき
Charles Jones
金良努 ;^) (Gold) (Good) (Toil)
Andrew Roberts
japs is this true?
Liam Parker
>Reasons Against Sapporo 強いて言えば 吹雪の日に出歩くとまつ毛も眉毛も凍って折れる アイスバーン上で人生で初めての転び方をして盛大に恥をかく 雪かきをさぼると車が使えない アイスポケットに落ちてくるぶしから出血する おやすみ
Jaxon Jones
雪かきをサボりすぎると家が潰れるらしいな。 恐ろしい。 おやすみ
Noah Butler
ありそうな名前だ。
Christopher Rodriguez
didn't read a word of this
Grayson Morales
白鳥みたい
Charles Moore
Is the average income of sapporo lower than tokyo and osaka?
John Watson
The average household income in Tokyo is 4.3 million where as in Sapporo it's 3 million. But in Minatoku ward, the average household earns over 9 million a year. You want a fancy life in a condo in central Sapporo, you need way more than 3 million.
Josiah Rogers
大草原
Jeremiah Reed
I hope that your wishes are fulfilled too.
Sebastian Williams
>Minatoku ward
Fucking disgusting, stay away from me tokyo trash
Ayden Rodriguez
Utilities are more expensive. It's not just gas and electricity for heating, but also water. I heard it's because city has to spend more for its pluming and sewage that are resilient to cold weather. Also, if you want anything home delivered from outside Hokkaido, you pay extra.