Can you imagine a war between European countries today? I don't mean something at the periphery like Yugoslavia...

>but that was the case before the WWI as well.
There were no nukes and no wars of such scale at that good old times. Today only little local wars are possible in Europe. The biggest possible conflict - our forces will return back some artificial countries like Ukraine.

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Maybe the Swiss would be a little less neutral this time and profit less.

The US profited even more from both world wars. You wouldn't be a superpower without them.

1914 was also following a long period of arming.

Here is a list of reasons wh a war in europe isn't going to happen
>people are super antiwar, moreso than they were in the past, before WW1 Germany got away with genocide in africa and nobody cared, humanism is in nationalism is out even with the latest shifts
>economy is much more integrated than it was before WW1, people will not consent flushing down all that prosperity for some dubious cause
>WW1 was also an imperial war aka the kings made the choice not the people, people don't like dieing in wars
>currently France and UK have NUKES, that's right the big reason - anybody to wage war with those two countries risks extermination if he get's close to endangering their existence and even if he doesn't the button is there
>EU makes territorial disputes almost irrelevant within the union

>>WW1 was also an imperial war aka the kings made the choice not the people, people don't like dieing in wars

Not true for Britain. Elected MPs made the choice. The support from the British people for continuing the war was crucial, otherwise the government would have collapsed.

British public supported WW1 firmly due to the German invasion of neutral Belgium

KANG Willy started the war, Brits had no choice true

Doesn't germany have some of YOUR nukes ?

>WW1 was also an imperial war aka the kings made the choice not the people, people don't like dieing in wars
Oh shit, not this commie fairy tales again. Any war is just another method of politics. And "people" is not a subject of politicts, it is just an object.

We had a choice but it wasn't a nice one. We could either

1) Honour our treaty obligations and virtually bankrupt ourselves by joining the war.

2) Stay out, break our treaty, and after the war face either a victorious Germany which dominates the Continent, holds the Channel ports in Belgium, rich enough to easily outbuild the Royal Navy OR face a victorious France+Russia who are now super pissed at the British for betraying them.

I think we made the right choice but there you go. Our mistake was letting Germany get too powerful in the first place. Franco-Prussian war of 1870 is where we dropped the ball.

Western european societies are mentally castrated and lack the demographics ( young expendable males) to start shit.
Another war and we are done for getting colonised by the highest bidder.

large scale war in europe or in asia is the only way nature is going to recover from overexploitation in europe and in some parts of asia pacific region

we would see recovered fisheries in the north sea and in the baltic after the war,assuming it would involve naval warfare,mining of trade routes and such.

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Getting into continental wars has fucked Britain every time it seams.
Why were you bankrupt tho?

Americlaps didn't do shit for me desu, they always say: "you'd probably be speaking German if it wasn't for us"

Would have had an easy fucking A-level then wouldn't I?

Indians are ok.
They basically cancel out Pakis.

A war inside EU is impossible. We have institutions where we process the conflicts. The advantage is that no country gets fucked up in the process compared to a war between industrialized countries.
The EU realy is a peace project for most. The EU fights the biggest enemy, and that is inner European war.

If you remember all the Clay threads on Cred Forums . The reason why they are realy just banter and fun and no one takes them serious, is the EU. In the EU Borders aren't as important as access is guaranteed and so is the freedom of the people and the protection of their cultural identity.
Without Brexit the NI-conflict was allmost forgotten, Nobody cared for the official border, the scotts evem voted against a seperation, because of the EU.
There was no claymongering at Gibraltar, because the difference would have bin miniscule.
All the potential conflict sources are cooled down in the EU. Tirol, Trieste, Lost German clay, crazy Dutch/Belgium/German borders and enclaves, Sezessionist movements.
What can a Sezessionist movement accomplish ? Leaving a nationalstate to be isolated from the Marked and ruinied? or Leaving a nationalstate to enter a union with exactly that state? It's a ridiculous tiny achievment that takes a lot of enthusiasm to reach...

I'm lucky we have the EU institutions. I think we can make them much better. And we should do so.There need to be a more direkt punishability of EU commission by the voters.
But having the current buerocratic EU is better than having none.
Just the Euro needs to be given up. It strangles the countries who never financed their states by taxes to a fast death.

No. 1914 Europe was a political powder keg on a scope unmatched since. 1939 saw the Germans enacting vengeance for being defeated. Not only did the Germans have all their fighting spirit beaten out of them, all major European powers (except Russia) now belong to the same alliance chain under the US

there are american nukes also in Italy

Can't wait until we declare war on Europe

We aren't even neighbours and we love Itally and other Vacation countries.

Also Germany has infact a nuclear armed bomber squadron. You delivered them nukes to us.

Slovakia vs Slovenia in the battle of "which is the least relevant cuntl

I believe war in Europe would get much less support from the population nowadays, at least in the beginning.

It was easy to demonize your enemy in the early to mid 20th century, but since then many people have travelled and mingled with people of other European states. Propaganda woudln't be as effective since people are much less culturally isolated.

However, Brexit has taught us how fast that sentiment might turn, both from how other people consider Britain now an outsider as well as violence in GB against Polish immigrants.

>Getting into continental wars has fucked Britain every time it seams.
No, usually it helps us. War of the Spanish Succession, Seven Years War, Napoleonic Wars, they were all good for us and our role on the Continent produced good results.

What fucks us up is when our allies collapse so Britain has to raise a big land army. 1916 was the first time in English or British history that conscription was used. The weakness of France and Russia in 1914 was bad for us.

>Why were you bankrupt tho?
The war was so expensive because it was a total war and long, and in order to win we had to invest massive amounts in innovations in a short period of time. E.g. the tank, the RAF, modern combined arms warfare... We also had to send loads of money to prop up the French and Russians.

Senior politicians and economists in Britain knew the potential consequences. When the professional British Army was sent to France in 1914 the government predicted a 75% casualty rate. That turned out to be an underestimate.

>violence in GB against Polish immigrants.

That has been very hyped up by the media. There have been a few cases, do you know how many Poles are here?

>being violent against the only white immigrants they get which come from countries where women aren't considered 1/2 a human objects that are up for buying and selling
Is it the native British population causing the violence?

I suspect a slow invasion by shitskins. It's happening now, but you're all inviting them so :/

Easily. Europe is peaceful only because it is firmly under american boot. If something were to happen to America and it would leave Europe, then shit will hit the fan immediately.

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Not immediately, but eventually.
First they will rearm, than something silly in the Balkans will happen, than war.

Wow, rude!

Nah, even if the EU would be dissolved and foreign control removed along a native demographic surge, war would be out of question as globalisation and rising relevance of other parts of the world would make us stick together out of fear of them.

Indochinese nationstates do not participate in claymongering with china and america on their necks.

Yes, Sunnis and Shias

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The only thing that makes you stick together is USA. In the case of USA leaving Germany will start rearming, which will lead to France rearming and then all the old grudges will reappear.

There are many factors to be considered.

Is it all out war?

Is it a skirmish that went out of control?

Was it an unexpected or an expected attack?

Between what countries?

Can the rest of the world intervene?

Can we bring nukes to the table?

What I can say is that western European powers tend to choose quality over quantity nowdays, and the war would be much "cleaner" (less casualities of civilians) because of that and the pussy European politicians.
Regardless of the country, Europe is a continent which country borders allow space for a lot of mini management and tactical maneuvering, which means slow and mechanized war.

Germany might invade Poland for refusing to take refugees

>And yet one political crisis
stupid oversimplification of a major event. WW1 was an amalgamation of the interests of colonial powers clashing, war in the balkans, politics and french butthurt. Another war was inevitable, too bad two major alliances had formed that sucked all european countries into it and broke europe.

Not that finns have any reason to complain, WW1 was the main reason why funland got it's independence in the first place.

German butthurt at Anglo dominance was a major factor, too. Didn't help that Willy was an overcompensating autismo lord. It also didn't help that the British were arrogant as fuck and thought their stupid empire would last forever.

>stupid oversimplification of a major event.
Yes, I know, but even then not many people at the time expected it would spiral into the Great War.