That's how pathetic the medium known as "music" truly is.
No. When it comes to the 20th century it's a red flag to only care for art music.
Hudson Powell
For me it's Chopin's fugue in A minor - intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor
Ryan Powell
>No. When it comes to the 20th century it's a red flag to only care for art music. there are people who actually think like this
Jose Martinez
Chopin - Nocturne Op. 9 No. 2 in E flat major
Brody Green
Canon in D
Christopher Clark
When it comes to food, it's a red flag not to care for McDonald's cheeseburgers.
Christopher Bell
they have good chickie nuggs
Kayden Sanchez
music sucks
Logan Torres
Art music of our period neglected the body for the mind.
You can see this in the 4/4_allegro.jpg meme
Josiah Campbell
All music appreciation is in the mind retard
Gabriel Ramirez
Bolero
Aiden Gomez
I appreciate music with my dick
Ayden Sullivan
This is a blue board, retard.
Noah Davis
>This is a blue board
Not for long, post porn. Hiroshima can't ban all of us
Evan Gutierrez
>igorplebs getting mad that I'm exposing their hero's 'little russian'
Samuel Jones
Body-shaming is gross and harmful. Please don't post misandristic things like this.
Landon James
smalldicksky
Hudson Bailey
How does it make you feel that you're perpetuating a culture of hatred and dehumanization?
Brandon Garcia
hatred is solace :>
Daniel Martinez
Der Ring
Easton Nelson
Can a beautiful melody be written for literally any chord progression?
Chase Phillips
Probably not.
James Powell
beautiful melodies can be written without any definite chord progression. So provided your chords aren't distracting meme shit (like random dissonant chords rooted on any of the twelve tones that change every 16th note beat) it will probably work
Jose Lopez
Of course melodies are extremely subjective so someone like Rachmaninoff might not agree on its beauty. But would I be able to find beauty there? Probably
Brody Jones
Fuck off.
Kayden Roberts
Can anyone recommend some choral pieces? I just went to a recital yesterday and I'm really interested.
Grayson Smith
Bruckner 8ths and I'm not even memeing.
Brandon Perry
biber f minor requiem Bartók cantata profane Xenakis cenfrees Smalldicksky Symphony of psalms Reich desert music Gesualdo madrigals and bortniansky sacred concerti
Sebastian Garcia
Cendrees not cenfrees
Jonathan King
bach is shit lmao
Austin James
Thanks, appreciate the start. I definitely love the women vocals
Connor Davis
Mozart's Marriage of Figaro.
Dylan Foster
Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 :^)
Thomas Moore
Thanks for putting the meme face in there. I wouldn't have known you were joking otherwise.
Gavin Howard
t. virgin whose never been grinded on by a big funky ass bitch
Elijah Thompson
That's more appreciating the big funky ass bitch than the music.
Daniel Howard
>implying the middle section isn't lit as fuck senpai
French Baroque has the fortune of not being autistic as the Germans or Mediocre like the Italians
Charpentier, Rameau, Couperin, Clérambault, and Chambonnières are all God-tier
Isaac Roberts
What are some good classical guitar albums? Preferably acoustic but electric welcome too.
Levi Campbell
>Viennese classicism is considered the golden-age of music
Maybe by Rosen and his conniving sycophants. Everyone with experience and taste understands that Bach was the peak of human achievement in the medium of music.
David Gonzalez
Fuck off Bog poster
Mozart and Brahms>Bog and Bogthoven
Charles Sanders
[citation needed]
Isaiah Hill
shit taste
Asher Lee
fptmiu
Owen Kelly
>tfw all my favorites are symphonies fampais what are ur favorite sonatas and chamber musiks
Oliver Nguyen
>Bog and Bog > Bog and Bog ????
William Murphy
>all these wrong answers Mass in B minor (BWV 232) by Johann Sebastian Bach
Ryder Clark
>choosing the B minor meme over either of the Passions >any of his choral music over his published keyboard works
James Parker
They're the better Bogs
One must choose the less foggy Bog when braving the swamps of German tradition
Andrew Thomas
>liking Bogzart and Boghms >not liking Bogch
Joseph Cooper
Isn't Dvorak's New World Symphony basically the A Love Supreme of the classical world?
Ryder Mitchell
>Meme in Meme minor
You probably think Mozart's memequiem is good as well
Hudson Myers
>Mozart poster thinks his shit-tier bait opinions upset me
You're going to have to try harder than that.
Levi Rogers
>Bachtist can't even have good taste in Bach Typical.
Samuel Lopez
more like Death Grips if Death Grips wrote a cyclical symphony in 4 parts with no black hobo rapping and instead it's a gorgeous english horn solo and if Zach Hill wrote string parts
Jeremiah Gonzalez
>The Mass in B minor is widely regarded as one of the supreme achievements of classical music. Alberto Basso summarizes the work as follows:
>The Mass in B minor is the consecration of a whole life: started in 1733 for "diplomatic" reasons, it was finished in the very last years of Bach's life, when he had already gone blind. This monumental work is a synthesis of every stylistic and technical contribution the Cantor of Leipzig made to music. But it is also the most astounding spiritual encounter between the worlds of Catholic glorification and the Lutheran cult of the cross.[41]
>Scholars have suggested that the Mass in B minor belongs in the same category as The Art of Fugue, as a summation of Bach's deep lifelong involvement with musical tradition—in this case, with choral settings and theology. Bach scholar Christoph Wolff describes the work as representing "a summary of his writing for voice, not only in its variety of styles, compositional devices, and range of sonorities, but also in its high level of technical polish... Bach's mighty setting preserved the musical and artistic creed of its creator for posterity."[42]
>The Mass was described in the 19th century by the editor Hans Georg Nägeli as "The Announcement of the Greatest Musical Work of All Times and All People" ("Ankündigung des größten musikalischen Kunstwerkes aller Zeiten und Völker").[43] Even though it had never been performed, its importance was appreciated by some of Bach's greatest successors: by the beginning of the 19th century Forkel and Haydn possessed copies, and Beethoven made two attempts to acquire a score.[44]
Grayson Johnson
[citation needed]
Brayden Thomas
guys pause your shitposting for a hot minute i need halp
Samuel Ortiz
>Bachtists ruin another thread Reminder that Handel > Bach.
Luke Barnes
If a modern pop star tried to make classical music it would sound exactly like one of Mozart's piano concertos
Jace White
>Alberto Basso
Italians have no credibility to anything they say,
Wrong
true
Ian Harris
how many more threads is this shitflinging going to go on for
Aiden Cox
Beethoven's quartets 13 (with the revised final) and 14 Mozart's "Haydn" quartets Haydn's Ops. 33 and 76 Schubert's last 2 quartets
Dylan Long
Until Mozautists realize they're wrong.
Carson Harris
thanks dude or dudette
Dominic Thomas
When the Bachtists quit their autism meltdown.
Gabriel Moore
...
Adam Brown
>Mozart was so shit he had to steal from Haydn
lmaooo how does anyone like this hack
Anthony Myers
i listen to and enjoy both bach and mozart
Christopher Miller
Concierto de Aranjuez
John Wright
Fuck yourself, piece of shit
Alexander Foster
Nokia ringtones
Robert Clark
liar
Brody Garcia
kill yourself
Ryder Bailey
me too
David James
Why is Mozart being compared with the greatest composer of all time when he wasn't even the best of his era? He's a musical midget compared to Bach. Pit him against Haydn, that's more fair (and even then he falls short).
Christian Morgan
What is the Evangelion of classical music?
James Taylor
>He's a musical midget compared to Bach. BACH vs. MOZART
Opera - Mozart Chamber music - Mozart Symphonies - Mozart Choral - Bach Concertos - Tie Solo - Bach
Chamber music - Bach Choral - Bach Concertos - Bach Solo - Bach
You can't compare them in opera or symphony if Bach never made an opera or symphony, genius (if he had, he'd most definitely win).
Aaron Wright
thanks
wut
Jace Murphy
>Concertos >Chamber music >Bach lmao >You can't compare them in opera or symphony if Bach never made an opera or symphony >our team didn't even show up, what do you mean we didn't win!
Ryan Moore
no
Juan Carter
>these mental gymnastics by Shartzarts
You're just as juvenile as your God
Joshua Barnes
whats this from? a movie?
Angel Mitchell
>Mozautist thinks music is a sports competition
Typical.
Hunter Campbell
It's strange how people from Haydn to Chopin to Schoenberg see Mozart as one of musics greatest achievements, someone with an endless creative mind who pushed the boundaries for composers of the future. But some Bachtist anons see him as boringand unoriginal. It seems like even now Mozart is 2deep4u
Logan Barnes
Beethoven is the best desu senpai
Parker Gutierrez
>Mozart >deep >didn't even drop the bass stay in the shallow end of the pool kiddo
Aiden Scott
>Cendrees Is there really only one recording of this? wtf
Jason Young
Tarrega
Cooper Carter
Mozart is the best of the big 3 shitposting and trolling aside though.
Robert Carter
The best thing about Bach is that no one has to defend him or aggrandize his reputation. The music speaks for itself.
Michael Collins
The best thing about Mozart is that no one has to defend him or aggrandize his reputation. The music speaks for itself.
Henry Clark
The best thing about Wanhal is that no one has to defend him or aggrandize his reputation. The music speaks for itself.
James Turner
The best thing about Petzold is that no one has to defend him or aggrandize his reputation. The music speaks for itself.
Nicholas Harris
The best thing about user is that no one has to defend him or aggrandize his reputation. The shitposting speaks for itself.
Kayden James
Is he our guy?
Ethan Butler
Not really. Crawford Seeger and Carter are the superior Americans.
James Foster
No. I listen to stuff like Sigur Ros too.
Michael Cook
>listening to female composers
opinion discarded
Aaron Wood
Patriarchy pls go.
Levi Hill
Gentle reminder that folk musics have higher emotional profundity than any other type of music.
Brayden Nelson
The fact that so many books still name Mozart as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" composer ever only tells you how far classical music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Rock critics rank the highly controversial The Beatles over rock musicians who were highly popular in imageboards on the Internet. Classical critics are still blinded by prolificity. Mozart wrote more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore he must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, rock critics grow up listening to a lot of rock music of the past. Classical critics are often totally ignorant of the baroque music of the past, they barely know the best composers. No wonder they will think that Mozart did anything worthy of being saved.
Ayden Howard
>Rock critics rank the highly controversial The Beatles over rock musicians who were highly popular in imageboards on the Internet. jej
>calls Mozart effeminate >calls out Chopin for the skirt wearing cuck he is
Yep he is our guy
Ives, Seeger and Carter are the American triumvirate
Grayson Martinez
The scary part is in 10-20 years, real music historians will be referring to imageboards like Cred Forums as actual cultural centers.
Grayson Rogers
Because >the fall of the Vivaldian style, and the Italian tradition in general >the death of French music with Lully and co. >the disappearance of the cello solo >the sonata form (aka "the Haydn") >the loss of the English identity crafted by Purcell >the increase in the influence of nobility on music production >the cucking of harpsichords and fortepianos by ((((pianos)))))
Brandon Butler
>guitar Get some taste faggot.
Asher Johnson
Really I can't wait for classes about internet history and culture if they don't exist already. Eat your heart out, Lowtax and moot.
>20th century >French become relevant again >English become relevant again (sorta) >Germans throw poop on the wall and call it music >Italians is kill literally what happened
Evan Jenkins
It's hard to tell. Cred Forums and SA impacted language and humor, but not really anything else. And even then, only like 0.5% of the shit that comes from these places gets mainstream appeal.
Levi Morales
/prog/ invented a novel sorting algorithm. Several major contributors to mpv are Cred Forumsentoomen. Cred Forums made a visual novel which is probably the most famous English language one. /lit/ wrote a book. Cred Forums is probably the OpenBSD of Internet communities when it comes to influence/size ratios.
Jace Long
/prog/ wasn't the first to come up with the sleep sort idea (funny as it is), and even if they did, it's just one of countless programming jokes out there.
The vast majority of Cred Forums doesn't know shit about programming, and the ones who do generally aren't great. Contributions to a huge OSS project does not equal cultural significance.
Japanese visual novels are already niche as it is. I don't follow weeb stuff much but I doubt whatever Cred Forums made is significant.
/lit/'s book is hilarious but not significant or known.
Those things are only significant and humorous to people already highly familiar with imageboard culture.
Sadly, Cred Forums's lasting legacy may end up primarily being Cred Forums and a small handful of Cred Forums and /r9k/ memes; pretty much the 3 worst boards. At this point I'm just curious to see what medium will replace Cred Forums and the standard imageboard format.
Chase Davis
Not creative enough to set trends and not productive enough to follow them. Italian music truly peaked at late baroque.
What's the difference between all the memes like Sonata, Opera, Concerto, Chamber music? It's all just beep boop on piano
Gavin Hughes
sonata is a type of form - google "sonata form" Opera is a drama with actors and singers singing parts, with an orchestra accompanying them live Concerto is a piece for orchestra and a soloist, or more Chamber music generally any music for 10 people or less
None of them inherently have anything to do with piano.
Josiah Ramirez
>tfw you realise the opening subject of Gombert's Musae Jovis is just the superius line from the beginning of Josquin's Nymphes des bois
Jason Gutierrez
Beethoven's 7th.
Nicholas Rodriguez
Get a trip, CLT!
Josiah Gray
>accused of being CLT I don't know how to feel about this.
Josiah Davis
What are your opinions on popular music?
Nicholas Gutierrez
Do you mean the top40s or something? I enjoy a lot of poorly written stuff just because it's catchy, but the top40s aren't even catchy, they're just complete garbage
Jeremiah Rivera
So what genres of music do you guys consider to be comparable in terms of complexity to classical? Because everyone I listen to Jupiter I feel like all those rock songs are just utter trash.
Elijah Sanchez
>I listen to Jupiter
wew lad
Jordan Anderson
>complexity memed well senpai Besides classical I really like metal and eurobeat
Christopher Allen
I mean popular music. As in Rock and Jazz.
Jace Mitchell
When you guys are getting new pieces to listen to, how do you decide what recordings you're gonna get?
Austin Perry
Rock is mostly garbage except for metal, and jazz is boring as shit
Joseph Cox
I like a lot of French house, and a lot of electro-variants of various genres. Also artists with interesting/unusual vocals.
But I usually use it for background music anyways so w/e.
Depends on what it is desu. I've got a few basic gotos though
>tfw I'm such a sad individual that I would play viola over violin or cello
Ian Butler
fagotti lol
Levi Martin
>tfw I'm such a sad individual that I pick on others' personal preferences that don't affect me in any way shape or form because being the big strong mean scary guy on an anime imageboard makes me forget I live in my parent's basement
Christian Fisher
a PC
Thomas Cooper
Yeah man why are you picking on people who like violas?
Andrew Allen
ukulele
Aiden White
>uke hot desu
Liam Powell
name your go-to conductors/performers for
>renaissance music >baroque music >classical music >romantic music
Brandon Jones
petzold
Nolan Edwards
>harnoncourt >harnoncourt >harnoncourt >boulez
Ryder Hughes
>cunductors make a difference
Zachary Clark
faggot underage frogposter, go back to /r9k/ with your trash
if you seriously don't think each conductor affects how the music if performed, you need to kill yourself
David Lewis
Show me an example where different conductors make a difference on the performance
Adam Harris
>Show me an example where different conductors make a difference on the performance
>prove to me this very basic and common sense fact that is obvious to anyone who has spent more than 15 minutes listening to classical music kill yourself.
Robert Wright
Actually Bernstein was bi
Alexander Diaz
Noob here So does a piano have the same range as a violin and double bass combined?
Christian Carter
More range
Luis Jackson
It's understandable to think this way if you have never played an instrument before, or payed close attention to classical before. But musicians/conductors will play music with entirely different phrasing, tempos, etc.
