When you say that music is "edgy", do you mean that it's

it's just a buzzword to say "I don't like it"

now OP but I guess - provocative not in a intersting way, not in a way that he provoces thoughts and feelings, but just edgy and making people angry

You've got it completely wrong

Falsely provocative and cheesy, as in, being provocative for the sake of being provocative and to gain attention.

that's still better than finding excuses to be provocative.

>English speakers will never understand how batshit crazy Varg really is
I don't know whether I pity you or envy you

Summarize this pls. I must know now.

Mind explaining? Never liked him or his music, but found his borderline autism interesting.

someone norwegian pls

I can't speak norwegian, he's going on about the aryan race is all I can say (Ariske Rase). Gotta point out the word udodeliggjore, which is amazing.

It's funny because the Aryan race were a genuine group of people (more specifically, they were Indo-Aryan Europeans) and Varg is speaking of them in a historical context. He's never even associated himself with National Socialism.

"Our myths (i.e. the Eddas and other folklore) are riddles given to us by the gods as a guidance in our evolution. The aryan race is not the completed human and we are obliged to improve the race and finish what the gods started.
Our ancestors have always known that the earth is round, as one can tell from the mythology and etymology."
And here's the kicker.
"The earth is a colony created by the gods to immortalize man. The gods are the human in its completed form, 'homo deus', with powers we are not yet able to comprehend. The gods will return to earth when we are ready for it, to unite with their brothers – the next step in the aryan race – to assist us in our further evolution."

I have no idea what you're talking about. Varg identified as a nazi for more than a decade.

The thesis is focused more on the Germanic race than anything else.

>The thesis is focused more on the Germanic race than anything else.
To further clarify this: when Varg writes "aryan", he actually means "a European who worships the old gods". (He clarifies this at an earlier part in his thesis.)

If that's what he means by the term "aryan", why even use it? It carries a negative sentiment thatnks to history and both the original and hitler's hijacked meaning are in absolutely no way related to what he's talking about. What's the point then?

maybe because it's quicker to write than "european who worships the old gods". like I said, he went out of his way to clarify what he means when he uses that word. words carrying a "negative sentiment" doesn't stop him from e.g. praising Quisling either. (Quisling is literally a curse word in Norwegian.)

>ywn be friends with Varg

>maybe because it's quicker to write than "european who worships the old gods"
Neopagan...?????????

...would obviously exclude the original pre-christian europeans. "pagan race" doesn't make more sense either.

"pagan race" makes more sense than "aryan" if what you're trying to communicate is "genetically distinct group of people who also worship the nordic (or germanic or whatever) pagan pantheon".

"pagan" just denotes not being christian, which then also includes Japanese shintoists and whatnot.

I'll keep arguing this, so I recommend you just concede the point.

It still makes more sense to use it in this context that has absolutely nothing to do with anything that you are talking about whatsoever.

>worships the old gods

I don't even understand this post.

Look, even if I concede that "aryan" is a weird term to use (which I don't), he clarified and specified what he means. There is nothing to be confused about. "Pagan race" makes no sense, and "neo-pagan race" makes even less sense.

>he clarified and specified what he means
Perhaps if he has to literally REDEFINE a term to the point where it has absolutely nothing in common with what it originally meant, maybe it's time to admit that the word he's using just 100% makes no seonse.
>"Pagan race" makes no sense, and "neo-pagan race" makes even less sense.
They really don't.

>Perhaps if he has to literally REDEFINE a term to the point where it has absolutely nothing in common with what it originally mean
So what? It's a useful short-hand for what he's trying to express, and he was clear about this. I could understand him just fine, and so can you. (Unless you're honestly dense.) There honestly is no issue unless people can't understand what he means.

Policing language is literally a waste of effort; the meaning of words is not static or objective.

>I'll keep arguing this, so I recommend you just concede the point.

Why choose "aryan" instead of something like "loop" then? I mean the latter is easier to say and since we don't give a fuck about what words mean anymore so it would make much more sense to say "loop".

Loop doesn't work in Norwegian. (Did you already forget that the text is in Norwegian?)

What about "kort"? Less symbols, easier to say, and Norwegian. Why wouldn't he use something like "kort" instead of "aryan"?

That word is much too common, obviously.

I'd be willing to take your suggestions seriously if you actually spoke Norwegian.

>I'd be willing to take your suggestions seriously if you actually spoke Norwegian.
"aryan" isn't exclusive to the Norwegian language, you mouthbreathing fuckwit. The point is you could use literally ANY word in your entire language to refer to "modern day europeans who follow the old gods" and it would make as much sense as using "aryan".

Being a foreigner, you're in no position to make such a claim.
Can you tell that you're being really irrational and obnoxious? Using really foul language and all that? Maybe you should go do something you actually enjoy instead.

Better to be straightforward with your hostility than a passive-aggresive twat. The way you go abouty speaks volumes of you.

For 90% of Cred Forums, it's
>stuff I don't like

youtube.com/watch?v=eCiFO7qV54E
the definition of edgyness

Are you proud of legit getting mad over a discussion with some anonymous guy?

I'm not sure what you find so questionable about my character. I've been very forthcoming with you.

I mean calling something like Evanescence or Linkin Park edgy is one thing, calling an album with objectively good music edgy because of a carrying aesthetic or something is pleb as fuck.

Reminds me of Feuerbach desu