Does Cred Forums agree these are the Magnum Opuses of their respective mediums?

Why is it always Cred Forums that has to be asked this question?
Why not /lit/, Cred Forums, or Cred Forums. Or any of these shit boards?

replace film with 2001

tv show doesnt have a magnum opus candidate but I guess sopranos will do

replace album with a Beethoven symphony

>album
>Beethoven symphony
Are you retarded?

well he doesnt have an album

literature isn't worth discussing, its literally someone people did 100 years ago to kill time since they didn't have the internet

greatest classical music should have it's own category seperate from albums

Ahem

Holy shit please let this be bait please please

reading is for nerds

>buh muh my favorite book

i bet its boring as shit

Album should be either Banana album or Revolver.
Videogames aren't art (yet), but in the future when they will become considered art Majora's Mask is the correct choice. Either that or both OOT and MM since they compliment each other.

You don't deserve this (You) but I need to tell you to go fuck yourself

Anyone who doesn't read is subhuman

*sign* just another DFW bro who's gonna mansplain to women about politics baka

literature and music were both perfected over a hundred years ago, there is no point in listening to/reading anything made after the 1800s.

it's time to move on to television and film and video games.

>*sign*

Citizen Kane meme should probably die.

go ahead an name me a single book that isn't boring

Twin Peaks > Sopranos

Pet Sounds is a fine album but wouldn't be in my top 10.

calling something a "magnum opus" of its artistic medium makes no sense for so many reasons, but these all get name dropped a lot so lets discuss them.

ulysses, watchmen, and ocarina have done so much FOR their mediums and possess a sort of supernatural something extra that means they have a seat at any relevant table. like, they are good enough to BE their own arguments. the others, while all being obviously amazing, don't really check that box, or rather they check that box in a medium where that box is checked much more frequently. However, Citizen Kane and Pet Sounds were both incredibly influential. sopranos, while very well done, means almost nothing in the broader television stage.

It's impossible and pointless to talk about this unless you want to seem intelligent, so i won't list any replacements. I will say, though, that you chose exclusively western-approved media, and that I personally believe that due to its radically different origin the vg category shouldn't be included. Ocarina is incredible but vidya has a ways to go before it can get past the "function" and focus more on "form."

in conclusion, you're a faggot who wanted to start a fight about pet sounds by assuming that we don't know anything about these other mediums other than their status as "legendary," and i'm a faggot who was in the mood to feel smart on the internet and luckily has consumed all six of these.

This is what a retarded teenager who hasn't read anything made in the 1800's would say. Also 1800 is 200 years ago.

siiiiiiigghhhhhh

Read Slaughterhouse-5 and try to tell me you were bored. I know you're either trolling or baiting or an actual mentally deficient child, but on the off chance that you're serious and mentally capable of appreciating thought, you genuinely should read it.

>with a beethoven symphony
>a

wow i don't think I've ever seen someone so bad at hiding their stupidity

>hellboy exists

Nice trips but go for a jog neckbeard, no one is gonna read that shit

No matter what I name you'll call it boring because you have the attention span of a 15 year old raised on video games

>citizen kane
0/10 chart m8

thx for a well thought out post user, no sarcasm

I haven't seen The Sopranos, but I liked all the other stuff. Sure I guess.

>Citizen Kane
Replace with 2001

>OOT
Replace with Super Mario 64

There, now it's perfect

bait

...but for what its worth that's a very well known novel that's known for its readability. unfortunately its very long and complicated (think constructus' ziggurat if you've heard it) so despite it being pretty exciting and easy to read most people struggle with it.

it's my favorite book but i understand the haters.

appreciate it. those trips will feed my family for many moons

influential doesn't mean good
zelda is a fucking garbage series

mario 64 was overrated too

sorry
whats wrong with a symphony

great post and great trips
first good reply ITT

Here. I improved it.

i disagree with this chart

thanks

>mario 64 was overrated too
If you genuinely think that, then you're a fucking tard who doesn't comprehend how much Mario 64 completely revolutionized game design.

"Citizen Kane of video games" gets thrown around a lot, Mario 64 is the only game deserving of the title.

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>Book
maybe ulysses. probably not.
>Comic
nobody reads comic books anymore this isn't the 1970s
>Film
something by david lynch
>TV show
either the x files or scrubs (only true patrician choices)
>album
the downward spiral
>video game
DOOM

like I said, influential doesn't mean good

>Mario 64 completely revolutionized game design.
If you're a console babby, yes.

I'm right tho

>book

books suck

>comic

Johnny The Homicidal Maniac

>Film

No Country For Old Men

>TV Show

Breaking Bad

>Album

The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady

>Videogame

Pokemon Gold/Silver

>Videogames aren't art
Nowhere in the OP did it say anything about art you fucking ape.

what does this even mean

quick delete your post before you get destroyed

All are shit apart from Watchmen.

this desu

>Gold/Silver
not even the best pokemon game

Man of taste. On your knees plebs

yeah but you can't deny they were the most innovative and the ones that improved on their predecessors the most (added a ton of features that ended up being essential for the series such as day/night cycle, breeding, berries, etc., also the only games in the series to have two full regions)

>Mario 64 completely revolutionized game design.
Does that mean it's the peak of its medium though?

Ahem,
>Book
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels - Capital
>Comic
Persepolis
>Film
Persona
>TV Show
Arthur the Aardvark
>Album
Ludwig van Beethoven perfomed by the Berliner Philharmoniker under Herbert Von Karajan - 9 Symphonien (1963)
>Videogame
Microsoft Minesweeper

Does Cred Forums agree these are the Magnum Opuses of their respective mediums?

>LOTR
Boy, high school sure is tough!

>Better Call Saul
what

If you're 14 years old and can't form an opinion for yourself, sure.

Thanks.

I played mario 64 a couple years ago but had to stop after 8 minutes because of how horrible it was. If thats the best video game has to offer then I must be doing something wrong

>Lord of the Rings
overblown boring book for nerds and "LOL SO NERDY" people

>Morrowind

haha

>also the only games in the series to have two full regions
yeah, that fucked up level curve and pokemon distribution was great, I sure do wish more games in the series had two regions!

>books suck
>breaking bad > sopranos
Holy fucking shit dude

Video games are for kids and shouldn't even be in this conversation

Its the greatest adventure a book could ever bring you on. the sheer influence that its had over western culture is amazing.

1/10 troll, made me respond

ocarina of time is not that great

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I will take it over the new gen having literally 0 post-game

>LOTR
Legitimately my favourite book but if you think it's the greatest book ever made you're a fucking retard.

>the whole game should be shit so that there's a couple hours of postgame
And besides, XY were the only recent game with a shitty postgame.

>Book
Brave New World
>comic
Watchmen
>Film
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
>TV show
Twin Peaks
>album
You're living all over me
>Vidya
Jet Set Radio

which one is particularly fedoral?

>XY were the only recent game with a shitty postgame.

>what is ORAS

>minesweeper

>>Album
>Ludwig van Beethoven perfomed by the Berliner Philharmoniker under Herbert Von Karajan - 9 Symphonien (1963)
OP means a album. Not a re-recording a classical piece you retard.

but he's 100% correct

He's actually not. That's why I made that post

it's literally an album you dingus
learn something about how classical music is recorded and distributed before posting something so embarrassing again

an album is a recording though what the fuck are you on about

sopranos fan much? and books are for 80 year olds with too much time

Holy fucking shit dude

Bookfags are trolled so easily

>learn something about how classical music is recorded and distributed before posting something so embarrassing again
Anything beethoven has never been sold as a album besides modern recordings of his works.
Stop positing now.

>books sux LMAO
>"no"
>HAHAHA UMAD

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shouldn't you be on a commie thread on /lit/ circlejerking to three hundred year old books

The album is by Herbert von Karajan and the Berliner Philharmoniker, not by Beethoven.
literally look at the wikipedia page if you don't believe me en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karajan:_Beethoven_Symphonies_(1963)
>Studio album by Herbert von Karajan
>Catagories: Classical albums
In classical music artists (that's performers to you) make albums, often by performing/conducting the works of dead composers. Some living composers sometimes commission artists (performers) to play on their own albums, or perform themselves, and in that case it's the composer's album, but in this case it's Karajan's album.

>Herbert Von Karajan

>books sux LMAO
>Holy FUCKING shit dude I hope this is bait what the FUCK
This is literally how it's going down in this thread.

fixed

I don't browse /lit/. You're just a complete retard

Damn...

>t0p

I think you are trolling but I actually sincerely agree with this. Those are all amazing works.

Black Ops was fun as fuck as a Teen. A Game of Thrones is an amazing adventure. Dark Night is hard to hate. Twenty One Pilots is catchy as fuck.

while you suck for many reasons, I'm happy BCS is getting recognition. it's like a more subtle Breaking Bad with wider emotional range.

truth bombs

BW2 is my pick and I'm a diehard fan, but like said about LOTR if you think pokemon is the peak of human achievement in an entire medium you need to dramatically reconsider. pokemon wasn't even all that influential, because people who wanted pokemon just kept playing pokemon, and pokemon just kept making pokemon so it worked out. the copycats have mostly died out and video games as a whole have just moved forward regardless.

but that brings up another reason video games might not be an artistic medium quite yet: they're so pleasure-based and commercialized that trends are determined not by influence of pieces but by influence of the market. hence the endless COD-type games. The fact that a brand can exist indefinitely in vidya without decaying (which itself is very bizarre, if you think about it) only, like, compounds this paradigm.

while as i said in the earlier post the entire concept of "magnum opus" of a medium (as opposed to an individual) is ridiculous, one of the reasons why ocarina, super mario 64, and all these 90s games are considered such--aside from nostalgia, of course--is that they existed in a much more fertile artistic environment. before the branding and commercialism was so ironclad.

the sad truth is that a market is a finite ecosystem, and video games don't really have a place in artistic discussion until either 1. megabrands stop absorbing all the nutrients or 2. the medium stops being so commercial and can then break down those walls. until then, the "video games are/arent art" discussion isn't even the point: its just not a medium. mediums are endless and extremely influence-based and forward thinking. markets are finite and don't really care about motion one way or another--and product isn't based on product, but on the market itself.

(sorry for rambling)

I think you are trolling too.

well I guess I wouldn't call them the top of their respective fields but I genuinely love them all

>Breaking Bad is better than the Sopranos

well that's not so outrageous then.

Tetris should be the video game
Book should be Don Quixote
Comic should be TDKR

Rest are ok

Nah bitch Majora's Mask

>Tetris should be the video game
I agree, actually.
This is the absolute response, Chess could also work but it's not a video game.

Mother by a landslide.

3 > 2 > 1

school
:^)

Yea chess would go under board game category

TIL people still read books

god hellboy is so good

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Never seen Persona but the rest are correct

>breaking bad is better than the sopranos

>they're so pleasure-based and commercialized that trends are determined not by influence of pieces but by influence of the market. hence the endless COD-type games. The fact that a brand can exist indefinitely in vidya without decaying (which itself is very bizarre, if you think about it) only, like, compounds this paradigm.

this literally applies the same to music

>endless pop music (yes there are different genres but ultimately there has been the same verse-chrous-verse-chorus format for decades) that are pleasure-based and pushed by major corporations such as P4K, Rolling Stone etc.

the only difference is that there is no classical/art music equivalent to video games, yet.

It's funny how nobody is calling out the music part of this, because The Beatles are for a fact much more influential than the Beach Boys. The Beatles may have not made any new grounds, but they sure did set a precedent for all rock music and all rock music as well, while popularizing many genres that were obscure before them.

it applies to pop music, but not music as a whole.

i didnt say that second thing but i don't necessarily disagree. unfortunately, video games need a lot more time, money, and effort than music to be passable, which means there's way less space outside the mainstream. as i said up at the top, when vidya can get past function and on to form (i.e. when technology allows ANYONE who wants to to create a video game) then we will start seeing that "art music" category fill out.

my favorites

>book
The Stranger
>comic
Sandman
>film
2001: A Space Odyssey
>tv show
Twin Peaks
>album
Close to the Edge
>video game
Wii Sports

wii sports is the definition of "i don't know enough about this category." its basically the "a beethoven symphony" of vidya

Pet Sounds > Beatles > Beach Boys

If that makes sense.

Kind of how Batman > Marvel > DC

>that'sthejoke.jpg
i don't play video games

Video games are for children

Can't really say much when it's the greatest selling video game of all time tho

then why is the majority of their audience ages 16-24? (which is the averages of Cred Forums as well)

are you seriously trying to say Wii Sports = a Beethoven symphony?

literature and music are too diverse for there to be a single magnum opus imo

Citizen Kane is one of the best movies I've ever seen but I'm not going to pretend to know anything about film

comics, TV shows and video games aren't art tbqh

>comics, TV shows and video games aren't art tbqh

why not?

>then why is the majority of their audience ages 16-24?

They're called "manchildren"

oh okay so you're one of those guys who makes sweeping generalizations about literally MILLIONS of people based on shit he saw on the internet

read the thread.

Stereotypes exist for a reason

yeah, a dumb reason

honestly you sound like the one who needs to grow up here