Trump would double out debt with his tax plan

Trump would double out debt with his tax plan

crfb.org/papers/promises-and-price-tags-preliminary-update

Only the rich would benefit from his tax plan

taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-donald-trump-tax-reform-plan-september-2016

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=8hSgVkgqUks
theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/08/penn-strategy-memo-march-19-2008/37952/
politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/27/hillary-clinton/true-hillary-clinton-says-federal-government-sued-/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates
strawpoll.me/11309360/
youtu.be/ilCmywMin8I
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Our debt*

Balance it out by taking all the parasite niggers off the welfare and put all jailniggers on chain-gangs and work crews.

>2016
>still believing Trickle-down economics work

When will trump supporters stop cucking themselves

sad little man believes everything he hears.

I'll take the words over a right-leaning expert budget agency over those of a 400 lb wannabe hacker. They spend their lives doing these projections. Your tiny brain simply can't comprehend it.

and here's the ad homin.
sad little man

>he's being mean on Cred Forums mommy!!!

Do you have a ph.d in your field? What is your counter-claim? Is it

>muh feelings say so!

?

In this field***

>Believing socialism works better then trickle down economics.

> Only the rich would benefit from his tax plan

No shit. Who do you think is paying the majority of taxes right now?

>believing any system is possible whereby people don't take advantage of each other

Learn to play the game or submit to those who can. There is no other option

>Believing Democrats are promoting marxist socialism
>Can't explain why social democracies like Norway, and Finland have such high per capita GDP

still a sad, sad little man.

you mean like obammy did.

Shouldn't this be on the Cred Forums board? That way we know who is samefagging.

this.

Can't explain, my ass. It's simple:

America has a nigger infestation. Finland and Norway do not.

Let's have this chat again if Europe doesn't get its shit together and kick out all the freeloading shitbags from africa/middle east

Not that user but you are just so fucking annoying.

You do know doubling the debt right now would be much worse than doubling what it was 8 years ago, right?

bu-bu-but everyone supports Hillary except like 3 people.

Meant for

looks like sad man has a friend.
are you a sad, sad man like him?

well I know one already has.
don't you think that is more of an issue?

I hate the liberal "America is invincible" bullshit. It's like a kid with a parent's credit card. America is not invincible, it cannot help everyone and do everything. Rich people control capitalist systems, they will always pay most of the taxes in terms of actual amounts of cash given regardless of what the percentage is set to because the disparity between normal people and rich people is gigantic. It's not that it got bigger, which it did, but it's always been huge because that's how capitalism functions. If rich people don't invest in this country we're fucked, if the laws make it more profitable to go somewhere else they fucking will, they honestly have been.

Musing about communism and the fact that automation will make most people useless is one thing but that's in the future - for now we're a failing capitalist nation that takes itself way too seriously. Everyone else is cashing in even as they still call us stupid and fat.

Let The Donald do what he does and make some deals that benefit the shit out of his side. He is exactly who we need; a stronger cheat than the other guy!

Hillary supporters are blind fools, all her "independent" analysts are contributors to her campaign, lying for her in hopes that if elected they will get kickbacks and benefits for themselves and their corporations.

>muh conspiracy theories

Give me a source on your claims that OP's links are in cahoots with $hillary.

>right-wing propaganda and lies

oh lawd...

Kek. Stress is bad for you. Calm down bud.

yep

I can. Oil and gas. Now with oil prices in the toilet and imigration through thee roof they are beginning to pull hard right. Bye bye lefty example of success

The world is much different than the safe spaces you libcucks confine yourselves to.

But, one day you will see this.

>source:Alex Jones

Oil prices have actually decreased drastically under Obama compared to what they were when Bush left office.

Immigration is more under control under Obama than it was under Bush, and deportations are up.

But hey, keep eating up that right-wing propaganda user.

>irl

Is that the 400lb hacker trump was talking about?

implying. grow up kid

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source?

crt monitor, kek

stale and old.

>the truth hurts

Didn't you call him "sad little man", making the first ad hominem? For someone who wants to eliminate PC culture, you appear to have a very warped sense of victimhood.

Almost took you for serious, at first.

Then realized you're not dealing in fax.

>CorrectTheRecord and Associates losing momentum

>the truth
>there are no sources than a few names
>information contained therein is old news (assuming it were true)

implying there weren't other factors.
the economy will come back when the millennials grow up and accept responsibility.
but we know that will never happen.
keep dreaming little man while the world goes on around you.

You're right. It's ONLY an extremely credible agency giving a forecast of what is to come with trump as president. People who spend their entire lives researching these matters.

Clearly you know so much more than these people.

Oh yeah, just like Obamacare was going to save us all a bunch of money.

Just like Hillary is going to win.

>pro tip: she's not.

trying this hard. give it a rest kid. you know nothing about me.

maybe he knows about the slant.

sHITLERy can't wait to import more of these black
bastards from the Turd World shit-holes ON YOUR DIME!

Touched a nerve?

It must be true otherwise Hillary wouldn't have said it, right?

Nah dude. Just having a laff because you're just following the trump-supporter-in-denial flowchart.

Damn bro you destroyed that bitch.
Keep up the good work.

>the trump-supporter-in-denial flowchart.
You can't tease like that and not share with the class.

"Now look over at Trump and laugh at his Tax Plan..."

Brit here, this should be issue No.1.
Don't let Soros, the Saudis and their puppet turn the rest of your country into a third world shithole like your cities.

Thought i was hallucinating when the earpiece came into view.

But, seeing a screencap today.

>Feelsgoodman.png

oh lawd....

>what are in-ear monitors

>millennials
>is a millennial

implying.

So you're not denying she was being fed audio throughout the debate?

Can't find one in Trump's ear...

nah bruh, just laffing at you.

hahahah. yep. that's what it is.

>NOT

the best you got kid?

I think your Hillary button fell off your Stage Workers Union coveralls there, Mr. Sound Production "expert".

? hearing implant? or just getting filled with infos about stuff because of her dementia so she looks like she knows everything by heart?

>kid
>is a kid

Nah fam. I'm havin a laff at ur expense ;)

learn2spellfaggit

He had one too, as did the moderator. This is very common in television and radio.

Seriously, you're being an idiot if you actually believe that conspiracy shit.

why don't you post the other graph.
you know the one that cuts off when obammy takes office.

doesn't know who he is responding to.
doesn't get much more retarded than this.

>This is very common in television and radio.
No, he did not.

Yes, they are prevalent in production. However, they're generally discouraged during presidential debates, because, y'know fairness and stuffs

what graph?

lol

NO ONE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A - N - Y
EARPIECES!! GODDAMMIT!!

>TRUMP GOT BTFO
>RED ALERT EVERYONE
>WE NEED SOME EXCUSE ON WHY HE GOT ASSRAPED

I love how shills have to post their Trump rage here because if they posted on Cred Forums, we'd see that most of them samefag or pull their arguments directly from Reddit.

>getting triggered by that

It sealed it for me that Trump is a Clinton stooge when I saw him completely ignore or at least largely sidestep:
>the video of Clinton falling down when they brought up her stamina
>her 33,000 emails and the entire controversy around it supported by lots of the kind of stuff he loves to harp on when he reads it on infowars or wherever he gets his info
>not explicitly stating what he was hinting at about the clinton affairs
>pay for play and the clinton foundation in general
>how she downplayed the embassy deaths and blamed it on an online video
>how she only supports something when its politically in her favor to do so (he merely hinted at this)

So much he didn't even give a fuck to mention and he could've batted down the gotchas thrown at him and go with any of the above. But he didn't because he doesn't want to win. Clinton won the moment they put the nail in Sanders's coffin.

we really need IDs again to uncover the CTR and assoc shills

Calm down, it's only a hearing aid. She's an old woman, and has suffered from hearing loss. Damn you people want to make everything into some kind of conspiracy.

Lol

Yeah, just the IDs like in /soc/ should be enough to weed out the shills. Might improve other threads too.

posts lol. thinks he isn't a retard.

>There are far fewer Hillary supporters than I am seeing around me.

sigh, implying.

this

we have their names and face book accounts

b-but we are anonimouse

lol

>2016
>believing Cred Forums cares about amerifats
no

>it's only a hearing aid.
Bullshit. She can hear Billy-boy getting his dick
sucked by a cocktail waitress in a Clinton Foundation fundraiser coat-room five miles away.

Let's ask sean hannity!

It looks like her ear to me, and if you're talking about the line on her back like alex jones was saying, did you not notice that both were also mic'd up?

>>Damn you people want to make everything into some kind of conspiracy.

hear hear
I'm always annoyed when ppl have to make up stuff about someone who has more then enough true stuff to be mad about.

Makes me defend ppl I would normally attack myself...

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There were more bulges in that pantsuit than what
would account for a single Lavalier microphone.

You mean like the line....and the transmitter?

copyright infringement. how nice

>Copyright Infringement
>lulz

Trump is being paid by clinton to run against her. They are on the same team putting her into office.Its just as rigged as the DNC!!! Write in your candidate. Don't vote for either of these fucking cucks!

The transmitters are worn externally and the line is about the same thickness as the one on a pair of earbuds.

These projections are with current spending, as in if the incumbent took office and changed nothing except the tax codes. Trump wants to drastically reduce spending along with this tax code. Hillary wants to increase spending with her tax code.

wasn't charged

speculate much?

So then do tell me what would it be?

Genius: If they followed the rules, which they didn't, BTW, it would be a RF line out only x-mitter pack

>Who do you think is paying the majority of taxes right now?
The same people that do most of the work, and generate most of the goods and services.
The middle class.

>context
>what is it

do you wanna tickle his balls too, faggot? such a generous cock sucker

The solid proof that Trump lost the debate?
Cred Forums isn't flooded with "Trump rekt Hillary" threads.

The morning of the debate:
>Cred Forums overrun with "Shillary is kill" threads
The debate:
>Trump gets BTFO
Night of debate:
>Cred Forums & /r/The_Donald raid polls
Day after debate:
>A couple weak threads of damage control
>A couple weak threads of denial
>A couple weak threads citing the raided polls of a win
>Mostly silence

Mmmmm...
J.A.P. cooch-dipped cigars
"Tastes goo-u-ood!"- Bill C.

Dont forget the ear piece conspiracy now, any way to try to rationalize him losing

No one feels like the debate was so one sided that it was clearly bullshit? I genuinely believe that Trump and Hillary are buddies and clearly working together to put her into office.

>FBI
>Trustworthy
>Forthright
>Transparent

Of course, Jim Comey and his butt buddies at the federal bureau of insolence are just as fucked as ever before.

Remember when the FBI was fucking with Martin Luther King Jr. hardcore?

>youtube.com/watch?v=8hSgVkgqUks

Oh right, you probably don't because this thread is full of edgy 19 year olds spouting their parents politics and CTR shillfags desperately trying to turn the tide.

>him losing

Losing is being nice. He didn't lose, he got his ass handed to him. 80 to 20 average win across actual controlled polling (not internet).

This is a landslide level win, and many people are talking today, that this is likely the exact kind of win that Hillary will have in November. This is being said by experts, many of which have been 100% accurate for decades.

>Implying Obama had anything to do with the reduction of oil prices or the decrease in migration from the south.

First person to shove her tongue up a US President's ass-hole in the Oval Office.

This is damage control.
>His mic was faulty
>The moderator was biased
>Hillary had an earpiece
>The raided polls show he won
>libcuck wizards cast a spell on Trump

More like the Oral Office if you ask me

>and the first woman to stay with her husband despite very public exploits of marital infidelity will become the first female us president

*first lady

sounds like a weak bitch to me fam

JEEZUS! not this Tammy Wynette "Stand By Your Man" bullshit. it was and always will be a marriage of political convenience, muh nigguh!

>Population has increased by 128 million since 1966 not including illegals.
>Expects me to believe only a total of 66 million jobs were created in this time period.

Unemployment would be at a minimum four times it's current rate.

also, don't forget....

>it wasn't really hillary, it was a body double

>Now with oil prices in the toilet and imigration through thee roof
thanks obama

>Oil prices have actually decreased drastically
>Immigration is more under control

>has nothing to do with Obama

right wing logic... amusing

>muh nigguh!

Only the opening salvos...
There's still three more debates to go.

>this technology doesn't exist and wouldn't be used in the most pivotal point in the election
b8 or retarded.

>damage control
>feeling dat butthurt

Did I say anywhere that it didn't exist? Keep trying that damage control, maybe something will stick.

you forgot to add lol.

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ah the tired and stale meme of a left wing loser.

>links to daily mail uk

oh lawd.....

"And come November 9th, all the shills down in Hilllville will cry 'boo-hoo-hoo'. And that's a sound
I simply MUST hear!"

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>muh alternate reality

>Racist libtard
>pray tell

you said it was a conspiracy theory. not necessarily that it doesn't exist but why not push your buttons when convenient? you're a little uptight, faggot. anyways, it's completely plausible to think that they had some sort of communication with their campaign cohorts.

and here comes the losers answer.

>Only the rich would benefit from his tax plan
The rich always benefit from any lowering of taxes because poor people don't fucking pay taxes

Not right wing logic at all just someone who actually pays attention.

Oil prices went down because Saudi Arabia upped oil production to starve out worldwide competition and kill american shale oil in the crib.

Border is more secure because despite reductions to border control, far fewer people are fleeing south and central America than they were and Mexico is starting to get it's shit together.

>But this is a man who has said women don't deserve equal pay unless they do as good a job as men.

What did she mean by this?

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Did I miss a meme friendo?

IS NOT AMUSED

>Mexico is starting to get it's shit together.
thanks to our fucked up taxes and shitty leadership

ah but, you are trying to argue semantics, along with ad hominem bullshit. A conspiracy theory can be right or wrong, because it's a theory. While it is plausible that they could have, it's unlikely they would risk it. 1/10 for having me respond

Think about it.

Those speculations always forget to factor in the money we would gain from having more tarriffs on imports and having more manufacturing. Right now we export less than we import. Our biggest industry is finance...that's not good

For
Americans you sure seem to love a monarchy.. you faggots are the same ones who idolize the kardashians.. the same mindless faggots who will continue to vote bush clinton for the rest of your lives, talk about a real sheeple country, the cunt didn't even wear an American flag pin lol just a red pantsuit like Mao Zedong

>Implying trump has a plan

what's there to risk? if 30,000 emails and "private" servers containing classified information don't get you canned, what will? and obviously it won't hurt her numbers much if the majority of her supporters can look past all of that and not bat an eye

>implying hillary does

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>Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s tax plan would significantly reduce income taxes and corporate taxes, and eliminate the estate tax.

Only the rich would benefit? Are you fucking retarded? Lower taxes for businesses means more money they can spend on employees. Lower income taxes means more money all of us gets to take home every week. That's literally benefiting everyone.

If that is legitimately his tax plan, I'm voting for him. I hope his income tax decrease is significant, I'm currently paying $22K/year in taxes.

Have you ever heard of this thing called the tax base, christ Im sick of this argument. He would double our 20 trillion dollar debt? Are you that moronic to actually believe this? Less tax on SMALL BUSINESS means more SMALL BUSINESSES means BROADER TAX BASE

>implying
Also just to do it back to you why dont you just go suck donald's dick faggot

I pay 49k a year in taxes, almost half my income (before I file). How can anyone vote for hillary on this fact alone?

Fact checkers tore Trump a new one on TPP, birther-gate, his tax returns, the Iran deal, and for lie after lie.

Come on CTR, get off your ass and put up a fight.

Your candidate is still worth fighting for, right?

While Trumps tax returns may raise questions I'm 100000000% more sure that hillary clintons transcripts to her private wall street speeches would raise even more.

This.

Norway & Finland are both very homogeneous populations, where nearly everyone shares the same culture, values, and ideals. And if you put those two nations together, their population is barely 2/3rd that of the greater Los Angeles area alone. Trying to apply that to the widely diverse, as well as much much larger population as the US is idiocy.

>Did you wipe the server ma'am?
>What, like with a rag?
It's not like unabashed lying that everyone sees through isn't a thing Hillary is doing.

Yeah, it's about 31% for me.

That is definitely money that I could use to help my family.

Germany, France, Finnland, and other countries take 70 to 80%. The US in the 50s used to take 90% for anyone over 50k.

Higher taxes on the middle class brings prosperity to everyone in the end. Clearly you don't understand basic economics kiddo.

>birther-gate
cringe. do we have to come up with a new catchphrase for every time someone wakes up in the morning?
also implying the fact checkers were interested in the facts

brilliant shilldog intelligence strikes again. you faggots are the reason america is being cucked. staygay

Women should get paid the same even if they do less work?

no he doesn't. he's said he won't cut medicare or social security or the military. that's what the government spends its money on. everything else is just farting around on the fringes.

but not a peep for the past eight years.

Hillary's campaign started "birther-gate" shills

theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/08/penn-strategy-memo-march-19-2008/37952/

What does the amount of work have to do with it?

Equal pay for equal positions.

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I'd love to see a single example, of a man, and a woman, in the same company, in the same position, working the same hours. Show me one example where the woman makes less.

Who owns small businesses?

Generally rich white guys, so no.... just no.

Yep, you're 100% right. If everyone, and I mean everyone is willing to work for the greater good the world would be great. Communism would 100% work if EVERYONE was on board. Guess what, most people are not. Why do you think people do business over seas?

free pastrami at the deli maybe?
half of them are jews for Christ sake,

I would literally rather give 49k to charity. The US govt only uses income tax to pay back the national debt. A debt they make NO effort to manage or reduce.

Go visit the bureau of labor statistics website. You'd be shocked to find out that it's happening all the time.

So a part time employee and one who works overtime and picks up extra shifts should get the same net pay?

You do realize what she said right?

You started the ad hominem, but if someone does it back
>Oh noes you're just unintelligent, you're mean
Gb2 Cred Forums

I'm about 45%. I gross $51,000 a year.

>he fell for the wage gap meme

Those statistics don't take into account the number of hours put into work. It just counts people as "full time" and it doesn't matter if they're only working 32 hours and maternity leave or 60+ hours. This is even pointed out in the exact statistics you're citing, moron.

Bullshit. He plans on using military spending towards rebuilding infrastructure.

>Why do you think people do business over seas?

Because businesses have finite resources and actually have to manage them.

There isn't anything altruistic about taxation.

And when is the last time Hillary perpetuated it? Trump didn't stop until January of this year.

>rich white guys
I'm not even going to respond.

$50,000 in 1953 would be the same as $450,649.81 right now.

So no, taxing those making > 50K at 90% now, would not be the same as it was then.

OTOH if you wanted to tax those making more than 450K at the 90% rate, that would be the same as it was in the 50s.

Right? Her little attack on Trump over income tax (Which was bullshit, there's no way he paid $0).

Wait, who made the loopholes and shit? Was it Trump? No. Id' get out of paying any fucking taxes I could. You know if I make $70k I end up with like fucking $50k because of the god damned taxes? I understand now why taxes were always one of my parent's biggest factors during the election.

the uninformed are so cute.

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>Lower taxes for businesses means more money they can spend on employees.

Even if that would be true, they won't! Why should they?
In reality it has the opposite effect!

Businesses get tax reduction for all money they spend to make money. So if a business spends money on workers, they already don't pay taxes on that!

So higher taxes makes a business invest more to get tax reduction (so to keep more of their own money but as investment in the company), while lower taxes just raise the profit of a business (aka the wealth of the company owner)!

no bias there.

You're right about the fact you shouldn't have, but you did.

but it's percentages, so inflation has absolutely zero to do with it. 90% is 90% no matter when it was you simple fuck.

holy fuck, the dumb kids on this site make me rage.

So what?

and once Trump sees all of the fat, bullshit contracts, and whatnot that makeup the military budget he'll be cutting it like no tomorrow. Contracts have to fucking go, or be audited to shit. The military could be run MUCH cheaper than it is now.

Also, sorry South Korea, Japan, Europe, no more free protection.

damage control

I live in a logging state. All the paper mills are slowly going out of business. There are about 2 major ones left. You know why? Because it is cheaper to cut down a tree in my state, cut it up, put it on a truck, bring it to a train, ship it across country, load it on a barge, ship it to china, have china turn it into paper, put the paper back on a barge, ship it back, put it on a train, and then back on a truck back to my state than it is to simply bring it to the mill here and make the paper. Tax rates and regulatory standards are so extreme that its cheaper to literally ship it across the world rather than do it right here.

Hey bud youre a cunt.

you are correct.

>ad hominem
again with this ad hominem bullshit. just argue like a man and stop making excuses, faggot.

Yeah but instead instead of capitalizing on that Donald let Madam President walk over him.

His only shining moment was when he called for the 30,000 emails. To which Hillary bounced it back and said that he should release his taxes.

She said that he doesn't want to release taxes because he pays none in. Now Donald could've done a lot of things, dismissed it, ignored it, said that'd not true, pushed back at the emails. Nope what he did is interjected that he's smart because of that.

So basically you admitted that you pay no taxes and you let the email topic pass away into the void. Congrants Donald. I hope you'll get taxed at 99% you retarded cuck.

>what is corporate greed

i implied you were uptight so that means ad hominem. jfc with your leftwing buzzwords

u wot m8?

Did you even read what you are referring to?

Same with recycling. We ship plastic bottles to china for them to make clothes, fiber, etc, they ship it back to us for free because there's basically no import tariffs

Wait did Hillary herself ever question Obama's legitimacy as an American?

Did Donald himself ever not allow black tenants in that one apartment building 30 years ago? No, it was a guy he hired at like the bottom of the ladder comparatively.

Buddy, these arnt Citi bank level paper mills. Only big ones can afford to survive because of their volume. Small mills are literally all gone. Youre not going to bring mills and jobs back by bitching about "corporate greed". People in these towns are out of jobs, out of money, out of options for themselves and their families. They dont want to hear some snotty shit head kid just bitch about "corporate greed" and walk away. They want their jobs back.

doesn't matter, his name is on the building.

>damage controlling this fucking hard

true he didn't turn it into a tit for tat argument.

THIS

Taxes and regulations have only increased poverty.

a little late are we.

Whose campaign was she on?

Jesus you shills are fucking retarded

You mean someone who has never had to live anywhere near what your average household can make in a year doesn't know how to balance economical issues?

I am so shocked

EVERYONE FUCKING KNOWS TRICKLE-DOWN IS A CORPORATE FARCE BUT AS LONG AS FOX PUMPS IT 55+ WILL TRIGGER TO THE CONDITIONING!

Kek, if hiring someone made you culpable for their actions then this world would have been sued into dust long ago.

Birther =/ Lack of american roots

Considering Donald's attitude towards unions, paying people, and money in general he'd bring the jobs and you'd be working for a bowl of corn because it's cheaper and easier to grow than rice.

Yea cause the decrease in migration came from American jobs moving to mexico and the decrease in oil prices is from fracking

I don't know, all I know is that Trump is very good at the "well I didn't say that" game. Who knows if he gave orders or not, as long as the denial of blacks wasn't directly from him, right?

politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/27/hillary-clinton/true-hillary-clinton-says-federal-government-sued-/

>muh tax cuts for the rich

It's like you faggots think you're arguing against a bog-standard Dubya clone. Trump's tax plan has the biggest benefit to the low and middle classes.

I'm not defending Trump. Is he our mesiah who is sent from heaven to heal America? No. But I will tell you right now, restrictions, regulations, high taxes (on small to mid sized business) has only resulted in failure. I'm not voting for the man, I'm voting for the party. More importantly I'm voting against the party that wants to increase government spending, taxes, and regulations.

well fuck it then, you know what I don't blame him, NIGGERS STANK

How's kansas doing these days? Thought it was a regulation and tax haven

the jobs aren't coming back unless they want to work 16 hours for $5 a day

they're gone, and your community needs to either do something different, or its going to die

That can be interpreted both ways, I assume.

Either he's not in touch with American values, or he's flat out not American.

To all those people saying corporate taxes are good and referring to Scandinavian countries, you should know that those countries, while having high income tax rate, have very low corporate tax rates. The United States has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world, sitting around 35%, Norway sits at 25% and Sweden at 22%. Having competitive corporate tax rates will attract jobs and create more capital, and is generally the standard in successful countries.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates

It would be easy to bring jobs back. Abolish taxes and regulations.

Its my state, not town, but the point is the same. They dont care about their mill job. Who the fuck cares about a mill job? What they want is A job. Any job that is stable and provides enough income to support a family. They simply want to work hard, and send their kids to college. Maybe take a vacation every once and a while. Raising their taxes, taxes of small businesses that would employ them, and raising regulations on those businesses (future businesses) does nothing to help them. Their only option is welfare and dependence, which is exactly what democrats want- a dependence mentality. Eventually if they are forced on welfare it will become their norm, the norm for their kids and grand kids.

They also are missing the biggest point of all. Those countries have no black people...

>using a wiki source
You sure told them with that source!

That makes more sense too, because right now that corporate money goes to the CEOs because they are taxed at a lower rate.

And on individual taxes, Trump has said (I think it was on O'Reilly? I'll have to look) that he believes someone making a lot of money should pay more tax.

I love his tax plan, because right now we tax people making basically nothing. Trump wants to get rid of that.

Not him but did you learn nothing in school? You're supposed to check the sources within the wiki page.

Honestly, I'm just waiting for the moment working is pointless. They'll just keep raising taxes and increasing regulations, until more and more people quit working in favor of welfare, because the effort required to work isn't worth it anymore.

Nice rebutal, typical liberal cunt. Have nothing to say attack something noncontributory. "YEA GOOD POINT BUT YOU'RE WHITE AND A MAN SO FUCK U"

Yeah, cool.

Because they are 100% unionized and don't have to have a minimum wage because the don't need to worry about anyone dying on a starvation wage as inflation makes your products unpurchasable?

Your GDP has grown while your median income is lower than 1999. How do you validate that?

You realize wiki pages have legit sources cited, right? Wiki is a good starting point for that reason.

You're using it wrong..

the only regulation that matters is the minimum wage

until we're willing to let them drive down wages to starvation/suicidal debt rates, THE JOBS ARE NOT COMING BACK

you will not see manufacturing jobs come back to america in a capitalist environment, unless some crazy thing happens and we nationalize food and housing and provide a basic income to everyone

rural communities all over the country are dying, because they're unnecessary. there's no money in small, low density rednecks anymore. Give it up and move to the suburbs, that's where the jobs are

This, then once people have no more economical power they'll have no voice and will slowly be stripped of their rights and liberties.

Did you actually type ''sigh'' out? Are you fucking gay?

>the only regulation that matters is the minimum wage


Already retarded.

Yeah, let's keep all of the regulations and taxes that starve out businesses AND force them to pay employs more. We won't have a single fucking company left in the whole country except banks/finance

Exactly.. I'll be honest.. I'm 24 and Ive worked my ass off my whole life to be where I am (law school). If it were announced that the government were going to supply basic income, health care, housing, car, phone, internet, electric, heat... I would drop everything and leech in a fucking heartbeat. If all I had to do was wake up and essentially do whatever I want every day of course I would do it, who wouldnt? Would my life be glorious? No. Would it be glorious if I keep working to support the other leeches though? No. This right here is why communism and socialism will never work, especially in the biggest economic super power in the world.

Why are Trump supporters so easy to offend?

this is basically illiterate

you realize that welfare is a 5 year life time thing, 2 years consecutively, right? clinton killed welfare in the 90s

Abolishing taxes and regulations includes getting rid of minimum wage laws. The minimum wage is a regulation.

>rural communities all over the country are dying, because they're unnecessary.
What a kind and warm hearted democrat you are. There are 300 million people in the USA. Sorry not all of them are going to live in your quaint little city retard. Have fun when those "rednecks" stop farming.

Because they hold to principles? It's easy not to be offended when you don't actually believe in anything.

That's why the black community is going to shit especially in urban areas. The kids' parents get free income, section 8 housing, cell phone bill paid for (on our backs), food stamps, WIC, etc.

You think the kids are going to excel or even try in school when they grew up with their parents sitting on their ass? FUCK no.

Then on top of that, the media and the president telling them every day that they are disadvantaged, and there's white privilege, etc?

Mill jobs arnt paying minimum wage. This whole post literally makes me cringe.

I'm sorry that you want to turn this country into a third world shithole, but I'd prefer to have health and safety over sweatshops

>not going to the sources listed in the wiki
Gtfo

Also same man, except I didn't go to law school or college yet. I joined the military out of high school because my parents made it clear I couldn't sit on my ass. I didn't know what I wanted to do for sure anyways. I worked my ass off for 8 years and just got out. Now I lose a lot of my non taxable income and I need to make fucking $70k to end up with $52k after tax? fuck off.

More like it gives them a reason to feel and act morally obligated to open their mouths

they are in china

sorry man, the chink is better at capitalism than you

Sweatshops are caused by government protecting monopolies.

Says the faggot who feels compelled to come on to Cred Forums and tell people why they're wrong.

Yes, do my bidding little hillary.....

government isn't doing shit in india/bangledesh to protect american companies, but look at where all your clothes are made

Stop hitting them while they're down, they're still butthurt about last night

You can ask the same about Hillary supporters. It's politics. Douche and shit sandwich time. Everyone's clenching their assholes and holding on to someone because no one wants to admit shi's fucked either way.

did you misquote toy story

I don't give a fuck about them

they aren't productive citizens, and they actively vote to not be helped

I can't fix their retardation, but the massive agricorp that will buy their land cheap will keep farming regardless

They 100% are. I dont control the US government though so don't blame me.

Rofl, you're beyond delusional dude, and very angry. They arnt productive? You literally just said farmers weren't productive. I'm actually laughing right now. What is it you do to produce? Personally, what do you do for the world?

Totally are, which is hilarious to me given that they're supposedly communist.

I have a penis.

You aren't supposed to raise a family working at fucking McDonald's. If anything we need to STOP incentivizing kids. No more child tax credits, no more fucking talk about "oh it's so sad that people can't afford to feed their families while they work at fucking McDonald's."


What should be MORE sad is that two people on fucking WELFARE can support their families

if you were productive and successful you wouldn't be begging for job creator dick

small family farms are inefficient and unprofitable

if sister-kiss kentucky disappears its not going to matter to anyone

Could you answer my question? How do you personally make the world a better place, how do you supply the country? Also no one is "begging" for a job creator. We just want it possible to be profitable. Believe it or not the world exists outside your city.

I don't feel like playing ad-hom

get a real job and stop playing in the dirt, or enjoy your crushing, generational poverty because its not going to get fixed through any method that only makes farming cheaper, we produce too much food already

I'm in law school.
>Dont feel like playing ad hom
>Stop playing in the dirt
>Attacks farmers for being "rednecks"
Clearly you do wan't to "ad hom" sorry you feel so miserable about your own existence that the climax of your day is coming on to Cred Forums and "doing your part". Go back to occupying wall street, at least your life meant something when you were entertaining the masses.

Definitely not true. Plenty of presidents before, from Jefferson to Eisenhower, have had affairs in office. Also, I don't recall that specific detail of the Clinton affair.

This. It makes me giggle how shills crap up the thread and then disperse quickly as soon as they are challenged on their arguments

Who cares, honestly? America is retarded, and no matter who gets elected, we're fucked, unless by some miracle Gary Johnson actually manages to get elected. Which we all know won't happen.

Removing the fact that she started this shit from the equation no doubt

Congrats user

Typical liberals, very good at being loud, very bad at making an actual logical point. Also bad at actually doing things.

Trump supporters remind me of members of the Westboro Baptist Church. Arguing with them is impossible because they speak with an angry staccato, all manic and obsessive, and logic and reason have no chance of penetrating. It's a waste of time. After Trump loses hopefully they'll all crawl back to their holes.

If you think getting rid of welfare would put a scratch in the national debt then youre just the kind of person the gop wants.

He's still beating the Lizard Queen in real polls. Tougher competition from a third-party candidate, though.
strawpoll.me/11309360/

Might has well just called us all xenophobic, deplorable, etc, your argument is about the same regardless

>get stumped at every post
>just insult Trump's base

Lol are you surmounted by an angry staccato?

Sure convinced me with those hot opinions.
Also this thread
>286/50/57/3
Kek at samefags

I would get panick too if I would work at CTR. Say that they need to pay you in advance, because after Hillary loses you are unemployed and the money in gone

You mean like these Trump supporters:

youtu.be/ilCmywMin8I

??

Yeah, but they'll find jobs once Trump fixes the economy.

So he's basically extending Obama's tax plan.

I guess he has your vote then, huh?

Replace Trump with Bernie and you have an actual point. For the most part Trump supporters are level headed (in my experience). They wont lash out unless you lash out at them. Liberals will scream at you just for being white.

wrong. bernie > hillary > trump

Hahahaha he got eaten dude

Wrong.
Bush again>Trump>>>>>>Cruz>Rubio>Carson>Paul

Bernie is the fucking cucklord

youtu.be/ilCmywMin8I

I'm mostly reminded by that talking head wench in the red dress last night on CNN's panel. She spoke like the above example and simply denied all accusations on Trump and said Trump easily won the debate. It's like, did you even watch it, you crazy stupid bitch??? If you said something was white she would say it's black. Trump and his supporters live in this twisted scary Sponge Bob SquarePants Opposite Day world.

>For the most part Trump supporters are level headed (in my experience)
My exact opposite experience.
Mostly racist rednecks, parrot the dumbest shit, lack even a rudimentary grasp of economics/politics/law, and NOPE the hardest when shown evidence countering their claims.

Granted I live in a republican stronghold so I'm not too surprised.

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To be perfectly honest, I thought he was a good choice at the get go. Boy I was wrong. I had some idealistic views about he's proposed economy prior to any details.

i was the same way, I was a big bernie supporter (and donated) at first, I've changed my mind a lot

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