Ask a real life zoosexual anything

Ask a real life zoosexual anything.

Zoosexual = Appreciate animals spiritually and physically enough to prefer sex with them over humans. Zoosexuals are the next civil rights issue.

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where they do that at

whats the best tasting animal pussy besides human?

Why won't you just stop? It is not the next civil rights issue.

It is absurd to place other animals over your own species.

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Pretty much everywhere in the world behind closed doors. You very well may know one in real life.

Canine especially in heat.

It is. The first public demonstration already happened in Germany in 2014ish.

I don't place animals over my species or anything. I just prefer their company instead.

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Best animal dick?

So you place animals over your species by preferring them, selectively, because you choose to.

Meanwhile, there are over 2 billion people who will toil and suffer while a homeless animal will lick it's balls and find food until dies after ~20 years of life.

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I'm straight so I wouldn't know. A lot of people like dog dick. It seems more practical than horses.

I don't get that. I used to be really huge into the charity thing, but I learned after a few years that most people will target you specifically if you are charitable. It's a sign of weakness for most. You'd get more stolen from you by helping people than by helping animals. And animals don't use the money you give them for drugs either.

youtube.com/watch?v=HWtmNMOyJFc

Most people in need are there because of decisions they've made to be in that position. Animals are in need because of decisions people have made on their behalf. It just makes more sense to help animals instead to be honest. But I don't place animals over my species in terms of important or anything. My stance on charity is just a result of personal experience in various hospitals, food banks, and soup kitchens.

We are all equally important species wise but money is better spent on those who won't attack or steal from you after you've helped them.

>So you place animals over your species by preferring them, selectively, because you choose to.
can you rephrase that into something coherent

Pedophilia is the next civil rights issue.

Part of me reckons you're right about the whole Zoophile potentially becoming an accepted sexuality. Just like I think pedophilia is a proper sexuality not really a disease. But the issue with both of these orientations is that both creatures of ones desires don't really have the capacity to make a proper decision on the same level as the person with the orientation. How would you respond to this?

Nah, that will likely come after bestiality and necrophilia. It doesn't seem like it's going to be discussed seriously in public anytime soon. Zoosexuals have already been discussed seriously in the news (ie more than just jokes).

animals cant consent this will never be a "civil rights" issue

I'd agree with that consent issue existing for kids but not for animals. Of course it would also depend on the animal's age. A pre-pubescent animal obviously couldn't consent, but there's no reason a sexually mature one couldn't either.

Children of a certain age do not have sex on their own, therefore they do not have the capacity to consent. Animals of a certain age do have sex on their own so they in fact do have the capacity to consent.

I actually believe the age of consent is probably much lower than 18. In some countries it's 14, but then you have to worry about things like pregnancy if an older man gets them pregnant. If post-pubescent pedophilia is ever accepted, there will need to be special protections in place to prevent older men from impregnating young girls and then just abandoning them. With animals, that's not a concern.

The entire thing really. I have no idea what is being argued here.

It's fucking an animal.

You're a human. You put your dick in HUMANS. You fuck HUMANS. That is all you get to fuck. That's it. Nothing else.

Something is actually wrong with you.

Why do you think fully sexually mature adult beings who have sex with each other all the time can't consent? It's completely illogical and makes no sense.

animals shouldn't have any rights, so the consense of them isn't needed

oral sex with animal is now legal in canada. do you think it now a great thing?

But I'm not attracted to humans in that way, and their company is not relaxing in any way.

I can only be around people in a professional setting. I couldn't imagine the kind of stress that would build up having one in my house every single day. It would be like a constant competition. You can be friendly with animals, but you constantly have to figure people out. I can do that at work 8 hours a day, but not for the rest of my life coming home. It would lead me towards a lifelong road of stress and dissatisfaction.

And all that stress for a less attractive body. I wish animals could talk, but I'm really not attracted to the human body psychically.

do you think that dog looks really hot compared to other dogs?

People fuck toys all the time so your point is moot

Sounds like some anxiety disorder bro
Definitely some kind of thought disorder. Ever seen a therapist? Your conscious mind has more control than you even know

So, you place animals over your species by preferring them; you as a conscious entity do not just automatically make a move to fuck anything with a hole- the very nature of your brain, emergent or otherwise, condemns you to make what can be said to be conscious choices. To delve into the finer details takes more than 2000 characters.

You choose to distinguish between the company of an animal, and that of another human being. In doing so, you are displaying and enabling the concept that you are getting more value from the animal than the human being, and thus are giving more value to the animal than the human being.

You, choose. It is not done for you. You have the agency to make the distinction.

If this isn't coherent to any of you anons, then that's telling enough.

I wasn't aiming for charity. Most people in need are not there because of decisions they've made to be in that position- many were born into it, and cannot help themselves to do otherwise. It's the same for animals- except animals seldom sit and whimper about it- they can still go about their daily functions. Human infants are born into this world with only the ability to instinctively breathe and cry, and this is because of the way we've come about regarding evolution- it's more cost effective to not push out a giant skull through a pencil-sized hole.

And behavioral habits are not unique to animals. Preying on weakness is not unique to humans. The majority of animals who are often domesticated, when wild, do not live to 100 years and operate in society to the degree that we do. You may not believe that you place more value over humans towards animals, but your actions and previous statements are guilty of implying otherwise.

We are not all equally important species wise. We are of 7 billion and growing, capable of upsetting the balance. Everything else simply lives under our thumbs, defenseless against our give.

And other hominids can harm if you help them; they choose.

Not really because of the case it originated from. I think they should've thrown the book at him for what he did. If it was some other case with a true zoosexual who respected animals, then maybe I'd feel better about the Supreme court's decision.

Animals should definitely have rights.

Yes Afghan Hounds are a very attractive breed. Right up there with huskies and german shepherds.

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animals dont have the mental capabilities to consent
most sex in the animal kingdom is rape

do you have sex only whith dogs? One or more?

not OP, but canine hands down.

Not really anxiety, just exhaustion. I get tired in a group. When I was younger I'd be nervous in groups, especially when it came to public speaking. But now I'm comfortable around people in the daytime. Just get bored really quick at parties or unprofessional settings with lots of people.

For me people = strictly money. Dogs = happiness. People are work and dogs are relaxation. Has nothing to do with anxiety. I guess I've just formed that link between people and work over the years so now they tire me as much as work. Except on the internet.

Fuck this whole thread, where's the beastiality webms

Not the wnon you replied to, but whats the problem with put5ing animals over humans? Humans suck.

Not a zoophile. Just think people suck. Rather play with mah kitty

I'd say you're right when it comes to male animals concent can be clear but female animals would be a bit more complicated maybe? I'm not an animal mating specialist or anything but female dogs always seem reluctant from what I can remember? or unfazed. Fuck I dono. Whatever OP from a member of society that is surprisingly vanilla in what I like and do I say you do you dude. You probably do more good for this world then most people for animals as well as people and not through fucking. Or just fucking. Peace

>In doing so, you are displaying and enabling the concept that you are getting more value from the animal than the human being, and thus are giving more value to the animal than the human being.
which is subjective you fuzzy-thinking retard

Oh man, dude. You have no idea how much more you can get out of a sincere, meaningful relationship with another human. Not even in a romantic way - connecting with another person truly is one of the greatest sources of joy. Everything you love about animals, but so much more deep and complex and recursive and beautiful. We've evolved that way because it helped us survive, but that doesn't mean that it's irrelevant in the scope of human thought - which is realer than scientific theory, or higher-level species/system level movement.

Therapy can help, philosophy can maybe help too
Know thyself

>In doing so, you are displaying and enabling the concept that you are getting more value from the animal than the human being, and thus are giving more value to the animal than the human being.

Yes I will admit it's true when you put it that way. But people have a lot to offer too. I wouldn't be here discussing it on Cred Forums if people didn't offer something that dogs couldn't. So in that way, everyone has their own value including dogs. I just see individual dogs as you would see individual people. Not just objects, but real personalities who think and feel as people do.

>many were born into it, and cannot help themselves to do

Yes, sorry. Worldwide, that's true. What I meant is most people in the cities that I've met.

>except animals seldom sit and whimper about it- they can still go about their daily functions.

Not necessarily. Some dogs develop PTSD and psychological issues, and can't function around certain people anymore. I've seen it all the time. Some dogs can't be with women, others can't be with small kids. You get the idea.

>And behavioral habits are not unique to animals. Preying on weakness is not unique to humans.

This is true, but there is a culture in black and impoverished communities to prey on charitable people when dogs would never dream of attacking someone they know is helping them. Culture transcends instinct.

>We are not all equally important species wise. We are of 7 billion and growing, capable of upsetting the balance.

Yet still equally important. Humans are no more valuable than the microbes in the ocean as far as nature is concerned. Most people delude themselves into thinking nature somehow cares about the human condition when in fact it's all just random chance.

That's kind of absurd.

And if animals couldn't consent, then that would mean 100% of cases would be rape, not just most. If you found a single instance where it was not rape, then it's false.

if animals are aconsensual they also can't rape

Degenerate

some animals form bonds and mate together for life so it could be argued that thats not rape.
but for all other animals yes they rape each other

The idea that consent matters for animals is laughable. I may kill the pig to eat it, or because it's sick, or because I feel like it, but not fuck it?

>aconsensual
thats not a word

Okay, but if that's you rationale, then the problem is that you aren't giving it any serious thought, and you stop at
>mah kitty

Regardless of your experience with humans, if they weren't as they were now, neither would you be around. Neither would your cat be around. The very fact that you're living in a building someone designed, using concepts and tried-and-true measurements that someone else managed to conjure and compile alongside several other people long gone, which was used to build what must then seem even more impossible, such that the entire building you reside in has not fallen or spontaneously begun to burn or cause a detriment to your health, is why there is a problem with deciding that your kitty, beyond reason, must preside over everyone else.

And right now, you're really being a human that sucks, and I still wouldn't disavow all that surrounds us right now just so I can cuddle Mr Clawsworth.

Is subjectivity bad? When was objectivity being argued for, solely? Am I not talking about the issue from a human-scope perspective, in a human world? Maybe we should make that distinction right now; I'm talking with respect to the majority of human values according to the will of the majority.

Does anyone have links to the zoophilia telegram groups? I've been frequenting a few and they both were suddenly shit down this week.

Four females.

Animals enjoy sex and will fight over each other for the privilege, male or female. Just like humans.

Thanks for your kind words.

That sounds really exhausting. I get a lot from my dogs. I've gotten a lot from animals ever since I was a kid. Humans don't provide the same 'food' spiritually speaking. I've never had a sexual interest in humans. I started being attracted to animals when I was a kid.

wouldn't that be more accurate than non-consensual, given that it's being argued they're incapable of consent either way

not op, but I am a zoo to and have tasted human, horse and sheep pussy, in order of best to worst I would have to say, horse, sheep then human, tbh all the humans I've tasted have tasted just fucking awful, the first time I ate out a girl I literally gagged and almost threw up.

How much more fucking patriotic can you get then marrying a gad damn bald eagle!

who gives a shit? interspecies sex is really fucked up

Im not saying id want all people gone. I still have close friends i care very much for. But the human populous and society as a whole is real fucked. I know there are good people, like there are bad cats. But overall i see no issue in caring for an animal more than humans. I have people in my life i care about more than my cat, im just saying i see nothing wrong with prefering one over the other.

Ape/Hominid cross breeding has already begun in India, as paid surrogates get old, and no white couples believe a formerly young woman can or should carry their baby, they are secretly given fertile eggs to incubate and attempt to bring to full term a human female/Male Simian of some kind and the results have been brought to the first then second trimester without spontaneously aborting for whatever reason. While it Would be a paid motherhood, and some white women don't want their baby to have seen the surrogate mother, they have to be fooled to carry experiments. Various pairs of European looking technicians are asked to pose with surrogates to discuss their needs to make the experimental process easier.

India: the technological powerhouse of the world- as far as human Simian cross breeding technology goes.

>Regardless of your experience with humans, if they weren't as they were now, neither would you be around. Neither would your cat be around. The very fact that you're living in a building

This is honestly a very obtuse way of thinking. By this logic, all the slave laborers in China should love and appreciate all humans because they "live in a building designed by one". It makes no sense.

Have you ever seen a broad get railed by a horny dog?

Yeah, horny dick dog knows exactly what he wants.

The thought of touching wet/sticky hair makes me want to vomit.

Female animals are a bit more complicated?

How the fuck is that any different than humans?

humans and apes cant breed and create viable offspring. Russians already tried it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee

>real personalities
yes
>who think and feel
yes
>as people do
Nope. There's something fundamentally different about human thought and any other kind of animal thought that we know about. There's a reason we came to dominate nature, and there's a reason we evolved our current intelligence so damn fast - it's a turning point in evolution comparable to the introduction of dna, and the introduction of sexual reproduction. Our intelligence is the only one that is computationally complex enough to develop culture - the new mechanism of selection. Maybe "nature doesn't care", yeah, because nature isn't a thing that can care. People are. You are. Value exists only in the mind, but that doesn't make it not "real". It's us who define it, so obviously the things that we have a natural affinity to will be in a higher place in our minds - and one of those things is complexity of systems, on which level we're fundamentally different from animals; another is loving to be around other people, and feel like part of a sincere community. It's the way we function. And denying it can make you feel shitty about/around people instead of good, like we're programmed to be. Exactly like you said: culture (i.e. human higher-level thought and choice) transcends instinct. But that doesn't make instinct irrelevant.

>I'm straight

This has got to be bait

Fur has a very different smell and feel than human hair. They're much nicer.

snopes.com/human-gorilla-hybrid/
are you talking about this?
because you might be retarded

Horse pussy has been washed and cares for more than human females, isn't covered up with layers of moisture, fungus, and bacteria retaining clothing. Horses have had tens of millions of years of evolution behind them to support them against diseases, hominids have had a mere 2.2 million at most, and modern humans certainly less than 100,000 years. Horse pussy is certainly more well muscled in order to protect itself from huge thrustings of a horse cock

I think it would be smart to invest in Canadian peanut butter stock.

This is Cred Forums dont act like this is out of the ordinary

>That sounds really exhausting.
That's exactly how I feel when I'm depressed. But right now, I'm not.

You don't need to accept this as the way you were born or something, you have way more conscious control over feelings and opinions than you think - starting with the realization that there are many ways to think about the same thing, all of them as valid as each other, but different in terms of human thought.

What case are you speaking of? Canadian here who has no idea.

Makes more sense they wanting to fuck another dude.

You know what I meant. Animals have just as much a right to live well as people do.

> Our intelligence is the only one that is computationally complex enough to develop culture

Eh, a lot of cultures are better off not existing in the first place, so animals are ahead of us on that one.

> another is loving to be around other people, and feel like part of a sincere community

That's honestly kind of creepy. A lot of people want to push that kind of mindset on everyone else. There's nothing wrong with people who want to be on their own.

Yes I'm straight. Did you have a question?

Nope, very real. There's stranger things on Cred Forums.

obviously if I had to speculate as to why those two animals taste better I would say it's because I take care of my animals and washing them lightly is a daily thing and a full wash is a weekly thing, so yeah, you know where that horse pussy been, but you don't know where that human pussy has been.

Maybe but if that's the case then I choose to relate people to work, so they're find in a certain setting, but they would be absolutely exhausting in my home. I work to earn my home. I don't want to spend all my free time and hard earned money constantly entertaining and enthralling a woman who offers me less than my dogs and is less attractive or emotionally appealing. There's no logical sense in it. Why? Just to fit into a group with the rest of people?

don't worry SJWs will be offended for them

independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bestiality-legal-canada-supreme-court-a7073196.html

You see nothing wrong with it, but you don't subscribe to it, because you've just said that you care for some people in your life more than your pet cat.

It means you're not wholly decidedly one or the other. You're trying to operate on a case-by-case basis where neither party loses any of it's utility to you, specifically.

Do all the slave laborers in China live in a building? Do all the slave laborers live in a building, post on Cred Forums, become comfy, and play with their cat?

No.

Do slave laborers in China have some perceivable reason to hate other human beings? Sure, maybe. Are they people who will be zoosexuals?

They're slave laborers. Probably child slave laborers. It's disingenuous to use slave laborers as a subject for the statement, where not only was the subject made known through the beginning of the post, but also where it was just discussed that the logic I used prior was "fuzzy", wherein the entire subject matter is of a subjective nature dealing with minds that are far from decidedly logical.

Where there are relative truth values. Where the focus is not something that can be arbitrated away with a 1 or a 0. For all you know, it could very well be rationalized that the slave laborers should do exactly just that.

And even if it were that all the people should love and appreciate all the other people, you could mix and match just about anything into a sentence, to ruin anything from it's context to it's causality. If you recognize that there's an exception to the rule (i.e. slave laborers in China), acknowledge that the exception to the rule is not all that exists (i.e. anonymous on Cred Forums).

For buildings to be made possible, people only need not devalue people to that of a pepe or a deer, and value collective human shelter as a community.

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Wow what a peice of shit

Also nice trips

Why would you choose that? Choosing to dislike people makes you strictly less happy than choosing to like people.

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>Do all the slave laborers in China live in a building? Do all the slave laborers live in a building, post on Cred Forums, become comfy, and play with their cat?

Well I'm not the guy you're responding to about that cat, but when I lived in the ghetto, I posted on Cred Forums with my cat. I'd always been a dog person but still enjoyed the company of this cat we had growing up. Why the hell should I care if I live in a building someone else was paid to design? It makes no difference to me. I don't owe them or anyone else anything. I had to work for every tiny thing I have now and after many years of living through this idealist mindset that I was supposed to contribute something to the world, I finally figured out that it's every man for himself. If you become charitable, you will be targeted and used, unless you do it for animals.

I still enjoy charity work, but only with animals now. I would think twice about going door to door handing out sandwiches after a hurricane again. Last time my group and I did that in college, 3 of us were robbed. Thank god I didn't have my wallet.

>For all you know, it could very well be rationalized that the slave laborers should do exactly just that.

That's not an idea grounded in reality. People who actually live in reality have no reason to stray from the "every man for himself" mindset. You'd be stupid not to.

A deer is honestly more valuable than most people. At least they don't go around murdering, raping, or stealing from people.

No I'm not talking about that.

I don't understand that. First off I don't dislike people in general. I just relate them mainly to money. I don't dislike money, so most people in my life currently are a benefit to me.

And there's no reason why disliking people would make me less happy, unless I was forced to be around them most of the time. I try to work the least amount of hours that I can. I want to start my own internet business and stay home with my dogs all day everyday.

provide link?

Humans don't get it all right but that doesn't make them all bad. The fundamental assumption that everyone has the capacity for good, that nobody ever thinks they're the bad guy or doing the wrong thing, and that even if their aim is wrong, it doesn't have to be, they're not stuck, they can still change, with a good example - therein lies happiness and greater peace among man.

If nothing else, it's game/decision theory - that's how you can maybe appreciate it from a rational perspective: that's a winning strategy for a good relationship between people in general moving forward (e.g. world peace). But that perspective is devoid of an entire other side of your psyche.

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That seems really pretentious. Some people really aren't on earth to learn anything. Some people do just have shitty lives full of struggle with no purpose. There's no greater plan or anything out there. Some people are better off never changing.

It's just the nature of random chance. The universe is a very irrational place.

I'm not that guy but

You seem like a great hearted person who's hit a rough patch. You say you used to have a great love for humanity? You used to have an idealistic mindset? When/why exactly did that change? Because that may well be a correctable mechanical issue in ya brain

Why do ideas need to be grounded in reality? That's a recipe for reality to stagnate as it is, which, as you've noticed, is not very good at the moment. The only way forward is an idea of how it might be, and to act in accordance

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Beast thread is here:

If you don't owe them or anyone else anything, then you don't owe me the care to respond to my post.

The people who get laid against the foundation are those who enable a world where you're given a watered-down version of every man for himself. They all died for this. People still do this- if you land in the ER, chances are someone will care enough for you or the principle of their job to put you back together as best as possible, if not for other things.

I can think of many reasons why suggesting that there is a hard and fast state of
>reality
is slightly erroneous to assume. Specifically because you gave me many personal accounts as to why you are convinced that it should be every man for himself, as if this is the standing reality for every other person out there. As if there cannot exist other opportunities or state of being.

Society changes reality, because there's nothing inherently real or natural about a building, paper money, your owning of a domesticated cat or dog, nor your college, not even the sandwiches. Tribes form shelters, tribes obligate one another, and they often are against the other tribes. At what point does the fact that most information is now free and near instant not reach you? If you cannot understand that significance, that's on you, and you have the liberty to do that much with your capacity as a human being. Good man.

A buck will certainly gore you during certain times of the season, if it has grown antlers. A deer will possibly kick you if it determines you are being a threat. Beyond that, they are naturally at a predisposition to constantly be on the lookout for threats, and are naturally prey. A strange human wandering through the brush is not a welcome sight, and the most possible utility you get out of a commonplace encounter like that is the lack of engagement or interaction at close distances- let alone any direct communication, compromise, or favors.

thanks, gonna dd to my collection

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YOU'RE A FUCKING MORON AND WILL REGRET YOUR STUPID SHIT IN A FEW YEARS, FEELING EMBARRASSED WHILE YOU THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH OF A FUCKING RETARD YOU WERE

that terrible writing though

who actually fucking likes this cg 3d shit?

Yeah man, to each their own. That's all I have on this disk anyway. To anyone looking for a big torrent, google Best Mare Pack.

people started making shitloads of SFM once the commercial sites shut down

>You seem like a great hearted person who's hit a rough patch. You say you used to have a great love for humanity?

The opposite actually. I grew up with a rough childhood. I've finally earned my way to my own rented home, car, and 4 beautiful dogs. Still have a long way to go.

>You used to have an idealistic mindset? When/why exactly did that change? Because that may well be a correctable mechanical issue in ya brain

Gradually over the years as I worked in various charity settings through high school/college I slowly realized that many people at the bottom are pieces of shit who deserve to be there. Of course, that's where I came from, so not all people that are there deserve it. And in fact, many people at the top deserve to be there. But generally, in the USA at least, the ones who don't deserve to be there work their way out, even if it takes 25 years. It is just too hard these days and it takes too long to escape the ghetto.

>Why do ideas need to be grounded in reality? That's a recipe for reality to stagnate as it is, which, as you've noticed, is not very good at the moment. The only way forward is an idea of how it might be, and to act in accordance

Because many ideas don't make sense when applied to reality, and ideas are imperfect products of humans. They can fail or backfire. For example, communism.

Many ideas meant to move us forward, actually take us back many steps.

Man I really want a female doberman one day. They are gorgeous dogs both male and female.

>People still do this- if you land in the ER, chances are someone will care enough for you or the principle of their job to put you back together as best as possible, if not for other things.

The reason is quite simple: because they're paid enough to put food on the table. Sure, there are many ideal people working in medicine, but you'd be delusional to think that MOST people in medicine aren't there for the simple fact that it pays well.

>Society changes reality, because there's nothing inherently real or natural about a building, paper money, your owning of a domesticated cat or dog, nor your college, not even the sandwiches. Tribes form shelters, tribes obligate one another, and they often are against the other tribes.

See now you're heading into the realm of insanity like many of those liberal arts professors I met in college. They had no idea what the real world was like, so they repeated misguided nonsense from other people who had no idea what the real world was like hundreds of years ago.

A building or a dog is real because it exists. Try not to sound smart by spouting this pseudo-intellectual philosophy nonsense. It's hard to understand and quite incoherent.

>At what point does the fact that most information is now free and near instant not reach you? If you cannot understand that significance, that's on you, and you have the liberty to do that much with your capacity as a human being. Good man.

Most information is free, but you forgot the fact that most DISINFORMATION is also free. And there's more disinformation than true information. Which makes it no longer free. You have to spend time working through lies to find truth anywhere.

>A buck will certainly gore you during certain times of the season

Yes but defensive behavior like that causes less mayhem in the world than, say, child trafficking.

Do niggers count?

Definitely agree - the universe is an irrational place. Rationality is a biological tool we developed to model reality, but it's not reality.
That doesn't mean, however, that rationality has no effect on reality, itself - rationality, of course, is proving itself to be an incredibly active agent in shaping the universe on its level of space and time.

That there is no greater plan out there, I agree wholeheartedly. The only greater plan is the one we come up with, and act in accordance with.
And if you ask me, one of the biggest barriers to a world where people can live in harmony is the belief that such a world cannot exist.

Have you never acted in a way you thought was best, but later came to consider it kind of a piece of shit move, that you eventually regretted?
Do you not understand the thinking that can lead to this kind of "piece of shit" behavior of many people at the bottom? Do you think that those people were somehow unavoidable, genetically or something, compelled to be that kind of person? Or do you believe that culture can transcend instinct, and that the basic instinct is the love that facilitates cooperation and peace?

It was when humans developed culture that they diverged from the animals and developed evil - and culture is a larger-scale, higher-level consequence of specific human ways of thought. But like I said before, you have more conscious control over how you choose to think than you know.

No retard you are literally raping animals they have less capacity for consent then even children you are an animal abuser

so do u like fucking niggers too?

Fuck no.

Sorry was just trying to make a point. They're adults.

Seems unlikely

It's the same reason Japan does censorship. The law.

Oh, goodie! Zoophiles are fascinating.

>What pets do you currently have?
>Do you consider yourself to be in a committed relationship with them?
>From a fantasy perspective, what species gets you off the most?
>Realistically speaking, what species gets you off the most?
>What mental capacities do you believe your animal partners are capable of?
>Can you post pictures of your pets?

Okay i always wondered about, how does a female human get orgasm from a dog? I mean they hump for 10-20 secs and done

Kek, there's a south park episode about that

It's hard to build that kind of world of harmony when there are so many people counteracting it, especially the trillionaires at the top. It doesn't seem possible for this species or this planet. Too many people with too much money prefer slavery and unhappiness.

>Have you never acted in a way you thought was best, but later came to consider it kind of a piece of shit move, that you eventually regretted?

No, not really. I feel stupid for doing some of the charity work I did when I could have better spent my time elsewhere, but I don't feel like I did anything wrong morally.

>Do you not understand the thinking that can lead to this kind of "piece of shit" behavior of many people at the bottom?

No I do not. Some people are just pieces of shit with no soul or sense of morals. Others are not. It's mostly genetic.

>Or do you believe that culture can transcend instinct, and that the basic instinct is the love that facilitates cooperation and peace?

Culture can only transcend instinct in that way when people are bred to be less evil. But that will never happen with the people at the top. They will breed people to be more obedient, not less evil. And slavery tends to breed more evil.

>It was when humans developed culture that they diverged from the animals and developed evil - and culture is a larger-scale, higher-level consequence of specific human ways of thought. But like I said before, you have more conscious control over how you choose to think than you know.

There's definitely evil in the animal kingdom. Some animals are cruel and fucked like humans are. And some animals are merciful. There's a lot less separating us from animals than you think. However, domestic animals are bred to be less evil, which is why I think a lot of evil behavior in humans is genetic. It can be bred out, if there ever was an interest for it. But like I said, there probably isn't an interest in that. There's more of an interest in breeding people to be unquestioning.

Why cant I find vids of girls making out with dogs?

Like... not even nude. Just let a dog go to town on your mouth.

Why is this like 1000x rarer than seeing a girl let a dog fuck/knot/pump her full of jizz?

Is reality perfect? Is nature super-symmetrical? Why do bad things happen to good people?

No one is exempt from erring. If reality is perfect, and we perceive it to be so, and we are imperfect creatures, then something of those three things is wrong.

If reality is imperfect, then we can only work with the best of our collective minds to ensure that we can experience the best of what we collectively can observe to be reality. If we perceive things imperfectly, then it means that we have the opportunity to interpret things in imperfect ways, that make an effort to imperfectly describe what might be genuinely perfect, as much as it can matter from our imperfect senses. If we are not imperfect creatures, then something is wrong with reality right now, this second.

And it could be that all three of those things are wrong, or that only two of them are wrong, or that none of them are wrong.

That is what appears to be the case. I only leave you to consider that.

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>What pets do you currently have?

Four female dogs, husky, shepherd, standard poodle, golden retriever.

>Do you consider yourself to be in a committed relationship with them?

Yes, completely. Until death.

>From a fantasy/realistic perspective, what species gets you off the most?

Not sure about fantasy, realistically female dogs of certain breeds.

>What mental capacities do you believe your animal partners are capable of?

Emotion, common sense, interacting with each other, jealousy, same thing as humans basically on an emotional level.

I wouldn't post pictures of them here.

Haven't seen it. Is it recent? I'd honestly be very surprised. I didn't know the zoo thing was public enough to be on south park. Is it about the German zoo march in 2014?

One reason is easily identifiable. No two ideal human beings are identical, or ever even exactly similar.
>if not for other things
Is meant to encompass the series of alternative explanations or rationale for working in that given environment, which would include the need to eat or be paid so that they can eat. Never did I place any priority on any of the reasons I gave, because it is seldom that way. Especially in an ER.

>See now you're heading into the realm of insanity
And now it's convenient to call me insane and unrealistic. Are you using a computer? Can you look at pictures of wolves instead of having to find a real wolf to look at and remember? Is it fun to hand-wave information that doesn't suit a narrative you prefer or have become comfortable with?

I think it's not that hard to understand what the real world was like hundreds of years ago, because that isn't time immemorial. That's hundreds of years ago, which could be anywhere from 200 to 900 years from now.

We have information. It isn't hard to know what it was like to have to start a fire, or forge your own tools, or deal with a class system, or fight various ideologies, or become a pariah for something you decide to believe in, because not much of that has changed since then. We still hunt, and still eat, and still kill, and still think.

A building or a dog isn't not real, it's not natural. You go ahead and tell me electrical grids were present in 1037.

>most DISINFORMATION is also free
While you're right in that disinformation can become plentiful, the fact remains that you also just said that you have to spend time working through lies to find truth anywhere. How can you know if something is information or disinformation if you don't work for it? How easy do you think it is to discard wisdom or food for thought?

It's damned easy.

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That sounds like a pet theory, that morality is genetic. I don't think there's very much research supporting that conclusion.
Do you believe nobody has ever changed their ways, realized that what they were doing was wrong, and lead a better life moving forward? Because if you do, you're wrong. Or maybe you think those people have the goodness genes. But I don't see anything that suggests that. You think if two criminals have a kid which is raised from birth by someone else, that it has a greater chance of criminality?

Regardless of reason or opinion that form of relationship with a animal is taboo in society and probably will always be for all that I know.

I do not believe that human and animals are equal mostly because humans are more complex then animals do you think your dogs love you the same way you love them? No because humans can have more complex and passionate feelings for something or someone then animals can.

op is a massive faggot.

They can't consent they are animals if it get passed more will over throw it. You have a problem. Fix yourself

go fuck a few different horses and see if they consent or not and how it feels when your ribs break

kek, go try sticking your dick into a bitch that doesnt want it. or sticking your hand in a random mare's vulva.

protip: update your will first

Yes, but it's mostly based on genetics. There's actually a lot of research showing genetics plays an extremely major factor in behavior. The entire field of biology is dedicated to understanding it.

The entire field? Not behavioral biology and it's children?

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That's based on genetics too. Otherwise, they'd call it psychology, which is mainly pseudo-science.

god dammit, every time i see this series it makes me want to bone my husky.

My husky is exactly the same way when we do it. Sometimes she tries to reach down and lick it.

I can't find anything that shows a relationship between moral behavior and genetics

>psychology
>pseudo-science
Oh, okay. Behavioral Psychology, the attempt to rationalize the phenomena and results of behavior from genetics, is pseudo-science by association. Which I guess invalidates any attempt to explain behavioral biology in any meaningful way.

What else is pseudo-science, friend?

I wish you the best OP. I'm a zoo as well and trying to convince these people of anything other than their own way of thinking is impossible. We will never be fully accepted in society as being "normal." I haven't read the whole thread but I can say without hesitation that you're hitting the nail on the head.

We don't own our "pets" we have relationships. It goes to a much deeper level than simple lust. I would die for my mates. All of them. Sadly, its a concept that's hard for the dredge of this website to comprehend.

Look into the field of breeding. Especially as it relates to domestication.

then you didnt look very hard. behavioral traits can be bred for. why do you think huskies are all crazy balls of energy and stubborn as fuck? why do you think golden retrievers are all super friendly and happy to meet everyone?

breeds have both physical and temperament standards

You are a male or female?

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>oh yes the field of breeding

why do you think huskies are all crazy balls of energy and stubborn as fuck
Genetics, if not behavioral conditioning- not morality.
>why do you think golden retrievers are all super friendly and happy to meet everyone?
Genetics, if not behavioral conditioning- not morality.

Yes, completely pseudo science with no basis in actual biology. It only steals credibility from biology to attempt to establish its own validity.

Anything related to liberal arts is also pseudo science.

I don't think the aim is to be normal. The aim is to not have your animals executed ("euthanized") by the state when it's found out you were having sex with them.

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looks like a good time.

Yeah, dude, you're thinking about animals. Human "breeding" is called eugenics and doesn't find much acceptance among modern science.

Which is good, because a lot of the way we "evolve" now has nothing to do with genetics - it has to do with culture, and *human-specific* ways of thought, which have not been demonstrated to correlate with genetics, as far as I know.
A person raised by shitty people and in a shitty environment has a much greater chance of becoming shitty. That can make it seem genetic, but it's learned culture. And learned culture can be unlearned, not just by a select genetically superior few

dane pussy always looks so meh. i'm sure it feels just as good, but it's definitely not great looking. huskies and sheps seem to be the most gifted in the vulva department

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How do i proposition a dog to fuck me?

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There's a distinction between what is scientific, and what is true, and what is useful

Science is not the purest or the only relevant branch of human thought

You sound like a fun person full of integrity.

All soft science is wrong, guys! Throw out the Bayesian networks! Throw out the historical trend analysis! Get rid of the art! No linguistics allowed! Identity of self is invalid, morality is void, and ethics are irrelevant! History is stupid!

It's all wrong!

Don't think it won't be the short term future.

>A person raised by shitty people and in a shitty environment has a much greater chance of becoming shitty. That can make it seem genetic, but it's learned culture. And learned culture can be unlearned, not just by a select genetically superior few

As a person who lived the example you're describing, I can say this is absolute nonsense. You can easily tell who's going to be a piece of shit and who's going to be a good person at the age of 13 or so, or earlier as a kid. But the thing is kids act different when they're around adults, so it's harder to tell as an adult. It's easy to tell as a kid looking at another kid.

It is 90% genetic. Nature wins out. Nurture plays a role but is ultimately trivial.

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You don't just proposition a dog for sex. It takes (at a bare minimum) a period of bonding. You have to get to know your mate and what they like and don't like. I know all about this stuff. Dog behavior isn't really too different from human behavior aside from they can't speak. Body language is huge.

This turned into a faggot moral war, op is not answering any questions time to bail

thats like saying pedophilia is the next civil right issue.

you dont want to hurt the kids, you just want to love them

Any closeups of dudes fucking canines? Preferably husky.

There is, on the other hand, evidence that links serotonin levels (i.e. joy) to moral behavior - and serotonin levels are, to some extent, in your control. And also, curiously enough, linked to a sense of community.

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have you ever entertained the thought of fucking something like a lion/tiger/jaguar?

Yes it is. It is the only objective form of human knowledge, except when clouded by nonsense such as psychology, pseudoscience, greed, or politics.

Soft "science" is mostly opinion. As someone who majored in biology and then computer science, I can 100% state this. The professors I had in my liberal arts classes were out of their fucking minds. Total bizarro world fantasy mindset.

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the dogs in those videos strike me as as nervous to, though most zoos don't like those videos as they show all sorts of animal abuse.

look at those lifeless eyes

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I answered all the questions asked. Feel free to ask.

It'll probably come after besiality and necrophilia. Give it 50 years.

It takes time. It's hard to get it to happen with just any dog. You'd have to love them for at least a year beforehand, or more. Best to do it on the 2nd heat and after. 1st heat is not good.

go to pornsocket, search husky or "blonde and blue" petlust has a lot of vids with the same husky. in some of them, she's pretty into it, but in some you can tell she's just kinda tollerating it. dogs have moods

fuck you, that's a child, pedobestiality?

I do believe that genetics plays a major factor in behavior but that does not define a person. depending on how a person lives there views and morals can be different if OP had lived in a different condition, place and interact with different people he probably won't be zoo sexual

There are many stories about pet owners being attack by there pets

What happens when you fuck a dog? Does it hurt it or does it like it?

No, not remotely interested in big cats. I am however interested in a mare. But I would need the money and space to take care of one long term.

Yes, some of the petlust videos are bad, but there are some that show the dog enjoying it. Pearl in the attic is one. And some of the husky videos.

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You still didn't answer my question->And btw can you get stds from dogos?

idk what to say nigga

how do i fuck a dolphin?

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"blonde and blue" is a good exapmle of a dog that wants sex. every time the guy gets near her vulva, she flags her tail at him.

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>I do believe that genetics plays a major factor in behavior but that does not define a person. depending on how a person lives there views and morals can be different if OP had lived in a different condition, place and interact with different people he probably won't be zoo sexual

Probably an incorrent assumption. It's the same as saying that all gays had bad experiences with women, so they turned to men instead. It doesn't work that way. It's genetic. I was attracted to animals at a very early age. Before puberty. It's been lifelong.

When I have sex with my dogs, they get very excited. We usually do it in the bedroom after I walk in naked after a bath. They all completely freak out and jump on the bed at the same time trying to be first. I assume they enjoy it judging by their behavior. Even after I take a bath in the morning to get ready for work, I try to have a quickie with them, but that's mostly eating them out before getting dressed up and going out. Penetration is mainly at night, and that makes them freak out even more.

> itt: I have sex with animals because I have difficulty forming meaningful relationships with other human beings

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i can do both

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I'm not a female human so I wouldn't know. I guess the knot swells up enough to rub the g-spot or clit enough to get them to cum. Humans don't have a knot.

You can't get stds from dogs or mares. You can get unrelated non-sexual diseases from them such as brucellosis or salmonella if they're particularly dirty or ate raw food recently.

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Oh, gosh, a straight stem kid. Majored in computer science and philosophy myself. Really, try philosophy - it's what science grew out of, anyway. Science is A philosophy, and there are compelling explanations of other philosophies, as well.
If by "objective" you mean "bearing a stronger isomorphic relationship to the external system we call the objective world", you're right in a lot of cases. But even hard scientists acknowledge that it's all up to interpretation - the choice of how to interpret information. You're choosing one way and are assured that it is THE way - much the same behavior as the people you think are insane. Try questioning yourself more - people, that is, every individual person is wrong a lot.

>I spent all my time immersed in one mindset
>I am clearly the most qualified to determine the validity of the other mindsets

OK mr religious zealot

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Just like all gays hate women because they failed with them, right?

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Yeah so it's pretty much impossible thx

do you think its even possible to pull off having sex with a large cat like a tiger/jaguar/panther

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So the people entertaining the concepts, while not being responsible for them, invalidate the concepts?

What I'm reading is that you ran into some people who were lost in a fantasy, all together somehow, but refused to take apart what they claimed to be defending or speaking for on your own terms, by your own time. I'd call that a scientific approach to something that may or may not have merit. To predetermine whether or not it has some sort of merit or value, reasonably speaking, is not as "objective" as taking it apart and knowing exactly what makes it tick to the best of your ability.

Not to mention, your precious objective form of human knowledge can easily be tainted or clouded by nonsense such as mental stability, misinformation, greed, or partisanship. The Ethology should especially show that traits that encourage partisanship can cause you to act more stupid on the whole.

When people favor a narrative, outcome, model, or claim, even when the evidence says otherwise beyond any reasonable doubt... and they push to make it prominent because they like it and it makes sense to them than everything else out there, that's called blind faith. That's not honest science, it's bad science. If you refuse to critique or nuance your own views, that's a great way to not learn anything worth learning about what you claim to understand. Surely, you know that.

If you go back and major in a soft science subject with professors who aren't smoking a blunt, then I'll believe you when you tell me that psychology is absolute nonsense, rather than nothing I can, or want, to convince you of.

I already know your response, because it's not new anymore.

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I did philosophy and enjoyed it. It's certainly not a science, but it is basic logic. But keep in mind most of it is opinions of dead people thousands of years ago.

I had plenty of liberal arts classes. They were always loony and anti-logical.

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Dude you seriously came here to argue about fking psychology. This is /b social outcast people come here to share what is not accepted by normal morals. You are just running useless circles.

Not if they get domesticated at some point. I think currently it's a suicide mission, but some people have done it with sedated cats. Of course, that's just rape if you ask me.

look at the horses dick, that bitch was really milking him

Science, considered as a mindset and way of interpreting sense data, is constructed from very high-level recursive/abstract thought, as evidenced by the fact that animals don't science (in the sense of the word you're using). This can give it a much clearer and more "correct", if you want, picture of the world outside the mind. However, the entire system contains the mind, too. If you want an accurate picture of that, you'll need to start doing some mostly empirical investigations into human ways of thought that may some day be called things like "psychology" and "philosophy of mind" and "psuedoscience"

The inside world is just as real as the outside world.

OP, dont u think its rape to sexually abuse an animal?

if only that was actually cum. color is too consistent, and it would take at least 2 horses to come up with a load that big. that shit's also nasty if you dont drink it immediately

Hey man. I'm wanna be on your side but not sure. I hope you're not a troll and will take it seriously.
1st. How did you realize you're into animals? How old were you and where, with who?
2nd. Is it any animal you can get a hard on or specific species? Were you rapping to imagies? Did you ducked one yet?
3rd. I've seen a few documentaries on it. Guys mostly go for horses/ponies (is that because pussy is similar to humans?) And women for dogs. (same reason?) are other species common?
Ps. I have a gay friend who fantasizes to bottom for a dog. Any advise for him?

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I didn't come here to argue about psychology, but surely you've noticed how much non-normies argue in Cred Forums every other day in several threads at once.

We will argue about anything. We're arguing right now. There's nothing new about running useless circles, but at least it keeps those of us who run in good shape.

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if you get a load of a horse daily it will keep you in shape

You mean you read canonical philosophy. That's not the same as doing philosophy. Yeah a bunch of them might be wrong, but you need to show how and why they are, and THAT's real philosophy. It's basic logic in that it's based on the fundamental human computational capacities, just like literally all other thought. It's not basic logic in the sense of formal logic, theory developed by analytic philosophers like Bertrand Russell. It's a very recent innovation that is a very powerful tool for helping us to understand the world, but the world does not obey the Euclidean laws of human thought to a T. There's room for, and value in, other kinds of investigation than what you're calling "science".

Probably an incorrent assumption. It's the same as saying that all gays had bad experiences with women, so they turned to men instead

I don't see how there are the same thing, can you explain?

SERIO FOO

this is utter nonsense, wtf?

See, that's the kind of thing that's reasoned by these nonsensical fields that try to attach themselves to science and steal their validity.

Liberal arts is pseudoscience. Psychology is liberal arts. That's just how it is.

Sure, the interpretation may be in the mind, but the machine you're using to measure it is outside the mind and part of reality. Science is about reality measuring reality, not about interpretations or opinions. That's why the same particle produces the same reactions all over the world, but someone's opinion of psychology can change over each city street.

Would you?

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Well if you sleep better because of it, just go on. You can argue with him, for hours, but you can't change someone with this. If he want to fuck dogs he will, if he want to fuck a sofa he will. I think that it's pretty useless to tell other people to do something, or don't do something. Humans are free to do literally anything. It's always been this way, you can not and will not change the way of the human nature. Sorry for my bad English , I'm not a native English speaker.

If science is about reality measuring reality, then it doesn't matter whether or not you know what's real or not. Especially not if the external peripherals, and not the internal system, is what need be concerned with the outside world. Especially not if the interpretations of the external peripherals is invalid.

By your logic, your mind is not your body, and it isn't real, and it doesn't matter. You may as well not know. You may as well form interpretations or opinions, because they will have no bearing on reality, and you can never actually know about what is genuinely real.

According to you, that's just how it is.

Op, whats a good bestiality porn site that wont give my PC aids?

You're right. Things like particle interactions are a lot easier to predict and pin down exactly right (i.e. strongly isomorphic to reality). Human thought is a lot more complex from a systems perspective (look at me using real science concepts) and a lot more unpredictable, and that makes the systematic study of it (yes, psychology uses systematic statistically based studies too, you quantitative pleb) more prone to error and interpretation. But we don't have a better way of understanding ourselves, do we? Do you? There's things like neuroscience, yeah, which can help us see the mechanisms that lead to the way we think, but you still have to start with "What do we think" before you can find electrical analogues.

Well, you're not wrong, but I like to roll for my dubs.

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what do you think it would be like to fuck a large cat like that?

how do i lose my virginity to my dog?

What is this I don't even... Just kill yourself you mentally deranged lunatic

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This is true but OP reason for doing is not good

Zoosexuals are NOT next for the civil rights debate. That goes to polygamous relationships and their legality. Wait in line.

Fucking savage.

How many animals have you fucked?

Good or bad... It doesn't really matter.

Some people do it and get a lot of publicity for it. It's not rape in most cases, just in the ones on the news, generally speaking.

>1st. How did you realize you're into animals?

Started very young. My first crush was on a husky. I put her picture on a valentine's day card for a project at school and got weird looks for it from the teacher. After that I knew to keep it secret. That was at like 9ish ye

I always jacked it exclusively to animal porn when I first discovered porn.

>2nd. Is it any animal you can get a hard on or specific species?

Yes, mainly dogs. i Wouldn't mind a mare too. But an animal is a lifelong commitment. I don't believe in sharing animals like some zoos do. That's just degradation. Those people aren't zoos. If the animal you're having sex with isn't your soulmate, then you're not a zoo.

>3rd. I've seen a few documentaries on it. Guys mostly go for horses/ponies (is that because pussy is similar to humans?) And women for dogs. (same reason?)

Absolutely not. Horse pussy is nothing like human pussy. Zoos are not looking to replace humans. They want more.

I've heard zoos say horse pussy is far superior but I've never tried it myself. I have had dogs and they are completely amazing. I love choking on all that fur when I shoot my load into one of them. There's nothing hotter.

Canine penis is nothing like human penis either. They have a knot. But I am straight so there's not much I can tell you about that.

>Ps. I have a gay friend who fantasizes to bottom for a dog. Any advise for him?

Yeah, he better be ready for the knot. And an enema with organic Castile soap, along with a few rinse out enemas is a good idea.

Yes, but the original meaning of philosophy is being skewed by political factions with their own agendas.

All I know is I've been attracted since I was young. Before puberty. It wasn't a result of experience. I have NEVER pursued a human girlfriend. No interest.

Not sure, but I'm not interested in them sexually. They're about as attractive to me as humans. Which is to say completely not attracted at all to them.

Buy or rent a decent house with at least an acre big backyard, then buy a dog and a bunch of dog stuff, organic dog food, etc. Form a bond with your dog, love her and treat her right, and then eventually she'll let you fuck her.

Well, you might be right. But zoos are on the horizon.

Four. Only my dogs.

she has some of the sexiest feet i've ever seen

well the first step is to have an intact female that you have a healthy relationship with. if she doesnt trust you, you wont get anywhere.

once she's in heat, just play with her back end and keep an eye on the signals she gives. it will be pretty clear if she wants you to keep going or stop. proceed from there

>the original meaning of philosophy is being skewed by political factions
So if that's the case, take your integral self, with your knowledge, reason, and logic, and find the original meaning, break it down, and go from there.

what if she's fixed?

>protein world

Lol'd.

Well I don't know what that has to do with anything. Are you just saying that the Establishment of philosophy is corrupt or something? That doesn't make philosophy in its purest form invalid or unhelpful, even though it isn't science. That just means that some of the theories being put out today are disingenuous. Which yeah probably but go ahead and refute them and that's philosophy and it's not science but it's not wrong either

You seem like a cool dude, other dude on my side

if she was fixed as a puppy, she never went through pubery. her pussy will be undeveloped and far too small. she will also lack a sex drive in most cases.

if she was spayed later in life, your odds of success increase, but only a little. her parts may be functional, but odds are she wont have any interest in sex

Then you can't do anything with her. A very tiny percentage of fixed females still enjoy oral sex if they were fixed later in life, but if they were spayed early in life they will probably have no interest in sex at all. They also won't develop the sexy smells or body contours of an intact bitch.

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Man if you were actually a scientist you wouldn't think there was just one uniform way among everyone to do science. It's very subjective

i have both an intact and spayed husky (the latter was a rescue, was spayed long before i got her, not my choice)

the spayed girl loves to be fingered and have her clit licked. so the odds that he can masturbate her are about 50/50, but yeah, penetration is pretty much out of the question

No, not saying that. I'm saying it's just being used to push evil agendas, just like most liberal arts. Especially psychology.

Yes, there is. It should be the same for all humans on this earth. Theoretically, it should also be true of aliens on other planets.

So now it's a powerful group's conspiratorial control of psychology that makes it invalid, or a "pseudoscience"? That's just saying "No, they're all lying", and like, maybe, but you could say that about fucking anything. Do you think the moon landing was a hoax

Psychologists aren't some monolithic organization with a goal, other than that of understanding the mind

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where were you on 9/11?

Can you make them have an orgasm? Otherwise how do they express their enjoyment? do they ever ask you for sex?

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wow thats awesome

You're lost in the Enlightenment. What are the odds that the way the white people started to think was the only correct way to think, and nobody had happened upon true understanding before the development of formal systems of mathematics pretty damn recently historically speaking

What you're calling "science" is applied mathematics. Psychology is not mathematical. That does not make it incorrect.

>Zoosexuals are the next civil rights issue.
>fucking animals is more important that the right of actually conscious beings [children] who are more in tune with their instinctual desires than any adult

playing with a steel beam

well there is just the scientific method, tbh didn't read the whole argument, but as a scientist I'll tell you it's scientific method or gtfo,

When I was in college, most of my psych classes CONSTANTLY pushed multiculturalism. Like constantly. Every single day all year. It felt like every class was a different justification for all the races to mingle into one big happy family. Just felt kind of... rammed down our throats. And much of what they said directly contradicted my actual biology classes with labwork and you know, real science.

I went to a state school.

It's called the scientific method, and yes. It should be the same worldwide.

Awwww shieet nigga talking about enlightenment and shit. Shit just got serious.

Maybe, but I was really just rolling for those dubs.

Oh, Winston, I didn't realize you went on Cred Forums. What if the Thought Police find you? You'll be charged with doubleplusungood thoughtcrimes by the Ministry of Truth!

You must be unsane. But, do you have any bread?

On a more serious note, if you have your wits about you, it wouldn't matter if some group sullied a facet of learning for some conspiratorial end goal. You'd be wise enough, smart enough, and probably dedicated enough or possess the right kind of worth ethic to pursue, dissect, and disseminate truth from fiction, just like good old Goldstein in Nineteen Eighty-Four.

You're making the allegedly insane seem more sane by the minute.

>and this is why the science cult consists of shitposting with logic that can not be disputed

No, i wasnt, kek, but it says November 09, 2011

>Sept 11, 2001 is what you talking about

yeah, female dogs often orgasm quite quickly too. just find her clit and rub/lick it. she'll start humping like crazy, her pussy will clamp down in spasms, and she may vocalize or sigh.

if it's a really powerful orgasm, she will often take off and run around and act crazy in what we call the orgasm dance

You dogmatic son of a bitch, how can you be so convinced that a specific sequence of steps thought up by some people SUBJECTIVELY is the only correct way to think? And that any deviation from it necessarily leads to incorrect conclusions?

HOLY FUCSK!!

I think the b8 was trying to be believable by inferring the apes carry the already fertilized and DNA complete embryo to term.

>NIGGER YOU MUST DIE NAO

>>orgasm dance
>>take off

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wtf is wrong with yall??
>mfw retarded fucktard post shit

it's very clearly an expression of excitement

Yes, my poodle likes to hump really hard when I eat her out. She seems to have a really sensitive vulva. All of my dogs fight over each other for sex.

See, that's completely retarded. Not all things are subjective. Actual science is universal. Pseudoscience is subjective. That's how you tell the difference.

2+2 equals 4 from here until the edge of the universe. Anyone who says otherwise is factually, objectively wrong. Not correct in a subjective way.

Psychology is very much incorrect and makes no sense. Or do you agree with Freud's notion that women compete with men because they envy the fact that they don't have a penis? COMPLETE nonsense.

I think pre-pubescent pedophilia is as fucked up as raping puppies.

you gotta be kidding...

well that was specifically addressing how to do science, not how you should think. also, love with your heart, and use your head for everything else.

Science is about questioning, fundamentally - I'm sure you'll agree with that. Sometimes you need to question the system you're working within. Do you subscribe to the idea of paradigm shifts? Do you recognize that scientists have been convinced of one way of considering the world, only to have it overturned and a new system ushered in? Science is constantly evolving and finding out things it did wrong. You're a silly billy if you think it's just now reaching the one correct mindset, with no mistakes or contradictions with reality.

Thanks for answering. It is very fascinating for me. I'll tell my friend about Castile soap but he's bottom gay so he probably uses enemas anyways.
Do you prepare your dogs prior to sex? Like wash their pussy with soap? Is condom needed? Risk of stds?
Also how do you go about offering sex to your dogs. If you don't force them how do they want it at the same time as you? Can you see them enjoying it? Do you make them orgasm? Do they love you more than other people's dogs because you give them more of yourself?
Ps. For some reason I'm getting a hard on whenever I'm thinking of this taboo relationship in great sexual detail. It goes away instantaneously though. I'm not a zoo. Weird.

My golden and husky still do the orgasm dance. My shepherd used to. My poodle just asks for more.

this thread is over somebody call the polleez plz

You're completely deluded. There will never EVER be a time where fucking other species becomes legal or socially acceptable. Civil rights issues relate strictly to humans interacting with humans, not mentally ill people fucking their pets. Jesus christ user do those poor dogs a favor and give them to a shelter for abused animals followed by immediately deepthroating a shotgun.

Yeah for a ducking spaceship bro. If my dog started dancing, and the take off I would shit my pants. Fking space dogo

any time science has had a change in its thinking it did so using the scientific method. Like I said, the question I was answering specifically is how many ways some does science, there is only one way, scientific method, if you're going to change science, you're going to use the scientific method to do so.

my husky only seems to do it if she hasnt cum in a while. if i take a vacation and then come back, she'll usually do it the next time we "play"

every once in a while she'll do it randomly though. i'm guessing their orgasms vary in intensity in the same way that ours do

Okay, then your college pushed multiculturalism for whatever reason/s. And you never bothered to delve into that issue enough that you didn't take issue with it whenever it was mentioned, and completely understood most if not all facets of the concept and why it may or may not be abused often.

I went to several public schools and one post-secondary institution that was also public. Here I am, tempted to start dissecting your woes for you, instead of the other way around.

Stop being a baby duck. You have a brain, clearly... why are you so content in defaulting?

Actual science is unknowable if the mind is pseudoscience, because it is therefore not real.

2 + 2 may as well be said to be 5, because if it's being said to even be 4, it's being said by an observer, and according to you, that's a big no-no when it comes to absolute truth. Simply because it all becomes subjective, and we're not allowed to enable or consider anything subjective. Can't have that. Meanwhile, it's clear that you didn't do much of Psychology, or else you'd be content in my saying that since you are adamant about the hard sciences, that you're fucking dumb if you believe that the Rutherford–Bohr model is exactly what all atoms look like.

Clearly, there's more than one aspect of Psychology and it's sub-sects, so as there are for Chemistry.

Play with a fucking rope dude. Play hangman.

animals and humans are not equal

get outta here normie

by what metric are you measuring?

The scientific method is based on measuring reality. Even the method itself is subject to being tested.

You're making a mistake. How science (real science) is done has not changed once in history. Only the results science has found has changed, but the scientific method has remained the same when not tampered with religion, politics, etc. Logic is logic. It only works one way.

Yes, I take a bath and I was my foreskin with antibacterial soap along with castille soap. I use castille soap all over my body like most days.

No condom needed or risk of stds, especially with healthy dogs.

I just walk into the bedroom after a bath and turn on the life. They tend to go nuts on their own after that and scramble over each other to get on the bed first. They seem to enjoy it quite a bit. And I do make them orgasm.

I feel like my dogs love me more than other people's dogs love them. There's a certain resentment i see in other people's dogs towards their owners after a certain age. They seem to obey because they know they have to, not because they really want to. They want to please, but they want respect in return too. Most owners give them respect on a conditional basis.

I give my dogs a lot of respect and they don't always obey me. It's because they know they don't have to, but it's never a bad thing. They have free will. And more often than not, they correct one another so I don't have to do much to get them to behave.

The best thing is when I'm fucking one cowgirl style and 2 are licking our connection while the other one makes out with me. That's amazing. Oddly enough, I don't like doggystyle. Cowgirl or missionary are my favorites.

youtube.com/watch?v=QCdfcUSZy6k

So the methodology to reaching the conclusions is what stays consistent?

How does that differ in respect to something like Psychology, for example? Or, does it also use the scientific method as an underpinning for dealing with it's subject matter?

If it does, then what exactly are we saying makes the soft sciences a big no-no, if we can't scrutinize the methodology known as the scientific method?

except children do have sex on their own.

Society and the media have convinced you they don't.

Simple as that. I won't argue any further.

2+2 = 4, however, is a mental entity. Considering the universe as an entire system, there's no one thing that corresponds to the idea of "2+2 = 4" - it is an abstract idea, a rule learned from observation of many situations, and necessarily correct by its definition. Minds themselves, however, are not defined by intelligent life - unless you're a creationist. They're crazy and chaotic and we're doing our best to organize them, but the only way to do that is to think about them. That's literally all psychology is - thinking about and observing thought. You can't deny that you think, no matter how much you want to in your misguided cartesian dualism.

Obviously specific psychological ideas are going to be wrong. People err, necessarily. But psychology itself is not a published body of work, collections of dead peoples' thought - it's an active process, in which you are unwittingly participating by criticizing it. Start talking about why literally every theory of psychology has been wrong, and boom, you're the world's leading psychologist.

the worth of living

do you think that's a real thing or something you made up?

Don't tell me what to do faggot. Stop ruining my board. Go ruin some dogs you sick fuck.

>You're completely deluded. There will never EVER be a time where fucking another man becomes legal or socially acceptable. Civil rights issues relate strictly to men interacting with women, not mentally ill people fucking the same gender. Jesus christ user do those poor boys a favor and give them to a shelter followed by immediately deepthroating a shotgun.

stay mad newfriend

True

yes it does stay the same, also I never said anything about Psychology, probably a different user, but yeah they use the scientific method in psychology.

>2 + 2 may as well be said to be 5, because if it's being said to even be 4,

No it can't. Fuck off already. Your posts are so fucking convoluted and annoying to read.