Why don't you vote libertarian Cred Forums?

Why don't you vote libertarian Cred Forums?
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>johnson will never win

He will if we vote for him faggots

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>libertarian
>supports mandatory vacinations for children

I'm Voting for him

Yeah libertarians like eradicating deadly diseases.

I'd vote for him. If he were a Libertarian.

becuase hes a fucking idiot and proved within 3 days of getting into the spotlight that hes unsuited for pres

> He fails a purity test? Fuck it vote
Clinton.

Being this autistic

You obviously don't understand what liberatarian mean

My nigga

He was asked to name his favorite world leader that is still alive and after being hounded because he seemed to be unable to he sheepishly replied,"Merkel"

Immediately lost my vote. Stop romanticizing him he's a fucking dolt.

I went to look it up in dictionary but before I got to 'Ls' I had to stop on 'Fs' because under the definition for faggot was your picture. Hmm.. guess you're famous.

Cause I've seen Johnson debate, give interviews and press conferences. He's as clueless as Trump, although a nicer person and way less filled with rage, hatred and doesn't have a narcissists understanding of himself.

Wow a libertarian who doesn't have a favorite leader. By definition most libertarians don't worship leaders.
And though I'm not a huge fan of Gary a vote for him is a vote for libertarian party.

Because I'm an adult.

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Nobody said anything about "worshiping" leaders.
Would be nice if a presidential candidate had a handle on world politics and the people he would be working with if he wins the job though.
No?

Because I'm voting for Trump

No thats not the point. He couldn't fucking name anyone.

Anyone.

and it wasn't because he was making a point of not having one, it's because he literally couldn't recall the name of fucking ANYONE. His first response was "The former president of Mexico" and they asked his name and he COULD NOT REMEMBER.

Look it up, moron. Watch your hero make a complete and utter ass of himself.

wow nice job of being completely wrong and trying to backpedal with a terrible ad hominem

how can you speak english and not know by looking at the word what libertarianism is?

>What is Aleppo?

voting for Johnson will effectively vote in Trump. How fucking stupid are you?

Rothbard follower. Economically retarded.

Wants to end the EPA by giving power to the states, which if you know anything about the EPA you know is retarded.

He's a non-extreme libertarian, but still a libertarian, and therefore still totally unfit intellectually to command a country.

> what is the name of a single foreign leader?

good lord the man is out of touch

>not wanting to vote in trump
how stupid are you?

>What is a leppo?
>can't name a single foreign leader

This, although honestly I still think he's a better option than trump or hilloli.

He said merkel? Wow. I don't keep up with the losers but damn now I definitely won't vote for him. He might as well have said Clinton.

probably the cringiest insult I've ever read

he said vicente fox

trump and clinton said merkel

He's definitely a better human being. Not nearly as qualified as Clinton though.

Actually Johnson pulls the more conservative crowd. A vote for him is a vote for Hillary. The lefty third party people are either voting stein, writing in Bernie, or not voting at all.

Why do either of those things matter?

The validity of any ansrgument Johnson makes (or anyone else), is not determined by what he does or does not know.

Still, Gary Johnson makes poor arguments.

John McAfee is a better Libertarian candidate.

I would vote for Austin Peterson, but he is both a narcissist and has openly stated that he doesn't follow the non-aggression principle.

I know liberals who are voting for johnson. writing in bernie is retarded and not voting is lazy, stein is a joke. they think johnson is their only choice

I would if that guy didn't sound like such a fucking retard.

Whats Allepo?
What a powerful world leaders name?

His running mate Bill Weld jumped in and said Merkel when it became obvious that Johnson didn't have a clue.

Johnson is a fag but he's caught more shit over this than he probably should have, tbh.

>Why do either of those things matter?
because the president needs to know shit about the world beyond our borders. he has to act on foreign policy and meet with foreign leaders. he won't be living in a bubble.

he also doesn't think we should worry about global warming because "in billions of years, the sun is going to actually grow and encompass the Earth, right?"

Those are the three great american leaders you amerifags get to choose among this year.
How the fuck did you end up like this?

As Eurotrash I think your best option would be Hillary; gives a push slightly leftward and you guys are really borderline right wing fascist in the european political landscape. A little left would be nice for you. Little less power to the already ridiculously powerful. Maybe work towards getting better social mobility than 14th century China.
Or at least not cause any major national or international crisis the next four years after a dull presidential period and then find better fucking candidates.

wrong. he said vicente fox. did you even watch the interview? trump said merkel.

thank you

Oh if only he'd screamed the first big international political leaders name he though of.
"Hitler!"
"Stalin"
"KIM YOUNG UN!"

I have to remind my mom that all the time, but she never remembers. Oh well! When she dies in about 40 years or so, I'll say what goes in this house. I just need to keep ducking her when she gets off work and stay in my basement and wait her out.

Stay strong user. Things will look up for us soon.

It means in a broad sense doing what you would like while not encroaching on the rights of others.

Letting your shitty kid get an infectious and easily avoided disease and then spreading it to others IS an infringement on another right to live.

Stay mad underage faggot

jacobinmag.com/2016/09/gary-johnson-libertarian-president-new-mexico-governor-record/

"He told the New Yorker he embraced libertarianism at the age of eighteen, after discovering a book on the subject that took him thirty minutes to read (he no longer remembers the title)."

"By the time he left office, New Mexico led the country in for-profit prisons, housing 44 percent of its inmates in private facilities. Only Alaska, with 31 percent, came close.
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In 2000, after four inmates and a guard were killed in private facilities, Johnson vetoed an oversight bill and startled reporters by insisting that New Mexico had the best prisons in the nation. When a riot in a private prison prompted him to send 109 inmates elsewhere, he selected a supermax prison run by the same company in Virginia — despite previous reports of human-rights violations."

"And in 1999, when public employee unions’ right to collectively bargain was set to expire, Johnson vetoed a bill to extend it. Thanks to Johnson’s actions, AFSCME’s Carter Bundy told me, ten thousand government workers saw their wages frozen. 'He was incredibly hostile to labor,” said Morty Simon, an attorney who represented labor groups in the ’90s. “We were just totally shut out of the Gary Johnson administration. No contact, no nothing.'"

See you're not even running and you can easily rattle off 3. That's why he is unqualified.

"New Mexico’s legislature passed a modest series of reforms, but Johnson vetoed these and announced his own rules: a three-year instead of a five-year limit on benefits, a requirement that recipients find work within sixty days of getting on the welfare rolls, and a provision stipulating that recipients over twenty years old could no longer enrol in college or vocational school instead of working.
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Within just a few months, the state had knocked more than 16,000 people off its welfare rolls, and its poverty rate had risen to first in the nation, according to a report from the state’s legislature."

"Later that year, when the state’s health department faced a budget crunch, his solution was to impose a time limit on benefits for disabled adults, which immediately threw 731 people off the rolls. (The maximum payment was $231 per month. A judge later invalidated the limit and said it violated federal law.)
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Three years later, Johnson eliminated roughly $48 million from the state budget. He slashed funding for programs that subsidized drugs for AIDS patients, for domestic-violence victims, for home-care services, and for a toll-free line to the legislature
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And in the early aughts, after the Department of Health created a jail-diversion program for the mentally ill, the state cut off funding because health-workers wouldn’t kick patients out after eighteen months."

People do not generally tend to be good at logic.

Reasonable arguments don't make for good presidential candidates. The public eats up sophistry, and the candidate who can put on the better show is guaranteed to win.

Basically, just say empty things like "Make America great again" or "Change you can believe in," while ad homming your oponents and you'll win.

>Little less power to the already ridiculously powerful

By voting on a neocon that takes money from big Wall Street firms

he was asked to name leaders he admired not fucking dictators you actual idiot

Weld said Merkel.
Weld also gave him the name of "the last Mexican president" Fox
Who gives a shit what Trump said hes a clown.

He's against net neutrality.

Still the best option though.

You can say what you want about Hitler, but he got shit done.

>Why don't you vote Libertarian?
>Post picture of someone who isn't Libertarian

IDGAF that he's the party candidate. Johnson is far from a Libertarian. More like a left-leaning statist masquerading as libertarian. I'd rather have Trump.

Because libertarians are small government but big corporation, and while I don't trust either I trust corporations LESS.

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>in billions of years, the sun is going to actually grow and encompass the Earth, right?

I'm supporting Johnson, but when I close the current in the booth I'm pulling the lever for Trump.

Anything to avoid that cunt taking office.

On a side note, I can't help but wonder what her beaver smells like every time I look at her.

Hi, my name is Gary Johnson. I don't know anything about Global Warming, world politics, terrorism, or being a libertarian. But I think people should only have all their rights whenot i don't think they are being dumb. My running mate supports gun control, which is SO necessary to protect the rights of Americans, and undocumented workers across America. Remember, although the whigs were almost entirely gone in 1856, Abraham Lincoln was still a third party candidate, and I'm a third party candidate. The only LOGICAL choice is to vote for me, because a vote for me is like voting for Lincoln.

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>Because libertarians are small government but big corporation, and while I don't trust either I trust corporations LESS.

We aren't pro "big corporations." Those corporations wouldn't be able to operate the way they do if it wasn't for government enforcing their monopolies.

"Make them compete" is a common mantra.

Hillary is a neocon?
I bet that would be a surprise to all her dem friends. Not to mention herself.

I would much, much rather see this election be between Sanders and Cruz, with Sanders winning. I don't think Hillary is a horrible choice though. She seems competent, level headed and trustworthy. She has her flaws, but at least she doesn't average 20 lies per minute. Just one ridiculous lie per month.

irrelevant
why would I be butthurt? I'm not supporting johnson.

I know liberals that are voting Johnson too it's just as a rule libertarians are typically more conservative. The libs I know that are voting for him are the ones that see through hillarys bullshit.

I hope you meant ducking

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A free competition between a giant and a single tasty toddler will end with a very pleased giant.

I've played duck duck goose to know what I'm talking about.

Because the whole libertarian party is just people who thinl it's cool to be different. Literally every libertarian just wants legalized weed, that's it, even their figurehead is completly ignorant of current events.

And this is why libertarians should never, ever get in power.
They're basically the party of "might makes right", and fuck everyone who aren't powerful enough by themselves to stop others from taking advantage of them.

>A free competition between a giant and a single tasty toddler will end with a very pleased giant.

This analogy is pretty bad.

For instance. Many people prefer local farmer's markets as opposed to large grocery chains, but then you have the government coming through and regulating things like raw milk or shutting down local farms just because companies like Monsanto don't want competition.

Those big, evil corporations cannot exist without government's help.

>They're basically the party of "might makes right"

Not hardly.

If you use coercion to get what you want, you literally support "might makes right."

The whole concept of "might makes right" is exactly what government is.

>. Many people prefer local farmer's markets as opposed to large grocery chains
No they don't.
Most people buy what they can afford, and their money goes where the cheap milk/cheese/bread/meat comes from. And they sure as fuck are not coming from local farms.
Also, many people want certifiable "green" or ecological food, which requires regulation for certification anyway.

You'll get some people to buy local stuff from smaller farms, but thats a minority.

Big corps, if they get to run freely will create monopolies and crush all opposition any way they can.

If you want big corps to stop controlling the country then you have to figure out who you want to be in control.
I vote the people. I vote far left.

>"might makes right
At least if you have a democratically elected government then the ones throwing around the might are the people.

So all you need to do now in the US is get democratic elections and you should be fine.

I hope your kids die from not vaccinating them, stupid bitch

Like we havent already had presidents that werent qualified.

I vaccinated my kids, but I don't support forced vaccination.

Do you see how some people can understand reason? Coercion is not reasonable as a solution to a problem.

Gary may be dumb as hell in certain aspects but I'd take dumb over the two terrible candidates that are currently in front.

>"might makes right"
You don't have total freedom handed to you until you fight for it. Whatever small freedoms you had was on the backs of those who had no choice but to use might.

Diplomacy and combining sovereign countries into one giant government federation will backfire on its campaign of granting people more benefits traded in for power.

Perhaps you don't think it's a fight, but your discontent for public affairs is not going to be won by casting your single vote alone.

I don't support forcing parents to vaccinate their kids.
I support taking the parental rights away from parents who won't vaccinate their kids and give them over to someone who will.

>pro TPP
>pro private prisons
>pro Citizens United

The only problem I see with your logic is that would be taxing on our already shotty healthcare system. That and if it was your body, fine. But a child shouldn't be held at a disadvantage because of their dumb ass parents beliefs

>but your discontent for public affairs is not going to be won by casting your single vote alone.
No. But neither will voting Libertarian make anything better.
I might vote Green Party. Either that or Democrat.

Ah fuck it. I'm probably going to vote for Jill Stein.

>CTR

Isnt that how laws work?

She doesn't make a whole lot of sense either but far more than everyone else. Her college plan is awesome

If dubs he wins by one vote

>At least if you have a democratically elected government then the ones throwing around the might are the people.

Democracy turns government into nothing more than a contest between opposing factions, each one attempting to force the others to submit to how they think a society should operate.

The premise is inherently primitive.

Honestly, having one centralized control center to attempt to run the lives of millions of people is irrational.

There is no reason why humans cannot form local societies with like-minded individuals. Some communities would be socialist, others communist, some would be different flavors of anarchist, minarchist, some groups might even revive monarchies.

Local competing forms of organization would be better than monolithic states that take away your right to organize as you see fit. It would do away with the need for us to fight each other constantly, because we'd all be somewhere organized the way we want to be.

Our current system of organization is extremely childish.

Libertarian... WHERE????
Learn to Cred Forums.....
He's no Libertarian

Yes, laws (rules set forth by the state) are upheld through coercion.

Government is monopoly on violence.

Nobody who understand economics supports Johnson, because he is a Rothbard follower. The Austrians were relevant 100 years ago. They are no longer accepted, or respected in academia.

To follow Rothbard is to show you have no awareness of modern economics, and very specifically macroeconomics.

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If you are a libertarian, you are either undereducated, or not intelligent enough to understand why knowledge is important.

>Ah fuck it. I'm probably going to vote for Jill Stein.

Surprisingly, I think you and I are much alike. I'm on board with this idea. Only bad thing I heard from her is her bad mouthing nuclear power plants on its current understanding today, but that's not a big thing. I'm going into EE and I already know that on average 2/3rds of power from your plant gets wasted on the journey to your residence. I'd rather figure out how to marginalize that and design a better flow of power before we take further steps on utilizing different energies.

and the ony not meant thing is what is politic in our day to day life

Fuck off, Keynes.

because he is a dumbass. I hate Trump and Clinton but this dumbass is worse.

I have an Econ degree.

Do you see what's missing from your "info graphic"?

Math.

There's a reason for that; Austrians are incapable of using it. This isn't 1900. There are standards in economics more than "I thought it was a good idea."

Obviously, you're under-educated. That being obvious, you should stop putting in "your two cents" on topics you aren't capable of adding anything of substance to.

He is a fucking moron
youtu.be/TW5gQo43ay4

Quite honestly, i could give a fuck less if he didnt know what Aleppo was. And i could give a fuck less if he doesnt have a favorite world leader. I dont either. His foreign policies would be shit. But wouldnt it be nice if we had a president who truly thought of his people first, instead of the rest of the god damn world. Trump may seem that way, but lets face it. The only guy trump cares about is trump. "But he paid for his own campaign unlike that dusty cunt clinton," is what youre thinking, but let me ask you this. Do you really think he would invest that kind of money into anyone else? Hell fucking no he wouldnt. Clinton is jist pullong an obama. All talk with no real game plan. Just the assurance that she will do what she says. Fuck that. Im tired of being decieved by our two party system. Fuck all you retarded blue and red supporters. Ya'll just as crooked and manipulative as the two primary candidates. Eat dick faggots

>thinking someone has to be libertarian on every issue to be libertarian in general

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how old are you?

What you're describing is impossible if we also include aggressive violent communities.
With smaller democracies security becomes an issue. In order to achieve military security you'll either need to use a ridiculous amount of your resources on it, or band together with other communities.

This is called nation building. It leads to where we are now.

Because he's an idiot and his logic is fucked.

youtube.com/watch?v=OZWOyI_y_PI

Nation building happens because sociopaths want power. It is not some organic flow of humans naturally tending to come together.

OP is a clinton supporter desperately trying to get the millenial vote off of Trump.

Reminder that Johnson CANNOT WIN IT IS MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE

Reminder that Johnson doesn't know the names of any foreign leaders or what Allepo is.

Reminder that Johnson is a bigger joke than Jeb, and he doesn't even follow libertarian principles (gun grabber, anti religious freedom, anti free speech, mandatory vaccinations etc)

t. 16 year old

Naw, it's the way things go.
The biggest problem with huge empires in the olden days was communication. Creating a cohesive public when it took two months getting a message from one end to another is haaaard.
Now, that's easy. And that means its time for the common man to reap the possible boons of big countries.
For example, if you give away control of tax collection on a state level and say that that's a Federal level thing only in the US you'd save billions each year by centralizing administrative resources, and leaving only operative resources "in the field".
Same goes for police.
Same goes for medical care.
Same goes for public transportation.
Same goes for fire safety.

But the only branch in the US that has really done this is the military. As a result of this they can swing their enourmous political clout-bat at the senate piñata and watch the chocolate dollars rain.

now the probem is about ceverness that make peope different and hard to undertand each other. With tupid foks as germans one, it's more eay(and it means war). Sorry about USA too...
I hope no one is stupid here :)

Johnson is a moron. The only reason why more people don't think hes a moron is because no campaign is attacking him due to the fact he is not a threat. If he were the republican nominee you would believe he was a racist and a bigot. If he were the democratic nominee you would believe he is a socialist and a pussy. The political system is 100% marketing. When you wade through the bullshit and look at the actual candidates you get a clearer picture. Trump is not an idiot, but he also has very little experience and not much of a plan set out for his goals. Hillary is a career politician whose self interest is above all else. Johnson's policies would get laughed out of senate, and Jill Stein would be better off going to live with the woods people of northern Canada.