Do you personally believe you are more...

Do you personally believe you are more, less or on parity when it comes to intelligence compared with President Barack Obama?

Reply honestly. Answers on a postcard please.

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definitely less than obama

less for sure
hes very knowledgeable and amazing at being able to express what hes thinking

I don't know. It's hard to determine how smart he really is; he has very intelligent people writing his speeches, coaching him on how to answer questions and suggesting policy for him.

Obviously less

>he has very intelligent people writing his speeche
have you listened to "keeping it 1600"? his speechwriters are just bros.

pretty clear that obama does most of his own best work

Have you ever watched him fumble around when the teleprompter fucks up?

Listen to him speak in an interview setting (this on the subject of why he is so polarizing.)

Wether you think he is the best ever or you hate him with a pure passion it's hard to deny that the man is extremley intelligent.

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If the question is about iq.But as a whole he surely makes smarter and more effective "moves" in his life than me.He reacts to situation bette for sure

But you're not arguing the other two points? That he has people coach him on how to answer question, and other people suggest policy for him? You don't disagree with those statements?

Intelligence? Definitely on par. Knowledge? He wins big time. Intelligence and knowledge are not the same.

Less.
The dude's bot a lightweight.

>hat he has people coach him on how to answer question, and other people suggest policy for him
every politician has communications and policy consultants. that's part of the job. but they cant help you when you're standing alone in front of a press conference, or on a debate stage.

so much this

How can you determine how smart someone is when he has other people do his thinking for him?

I wouldn't think he was very smart if he wasn't making sure to surround himself with a strong team. It's the only way to do the job but when it comes to captaining the ship he really does know what he is doing. He is a principled man (wether you like his principles or not) and always knows what he is talking about. Him having speech writers (it's not like he doesn't have any input and will always co-write them) and smart people helping come up with policy and solutions is just part and parcel. No single person can effectively be President without help. The fact that Trump THINKS he can is worrying. Then again, Trump is a intellectual featherweight compared to Obama.

I prefer to see when he talks in person at town hall settings and answers questions.

How does him utilizing a team mean others are thinking for him? it's called an administration for a reason. That's a ridiculous statement.

I'm not any more intelligent than him. This guy gets the idea:

Right. But explain why Trump would fail with all the same help Obama has?
>Trump is a intellectual featherweight compared to Obama
That's opinion, not fact.

Others are exploring options for him. The president simply has to give a multiple-choice answer. The illusion is that he can think for himself; all he is doing is making one of two choices already chosen for him to select from. Who is really in power?

>when he has other people do his thinking for him?
I just told you -- look at him alone in front of the press or on the debate stage. He only had 1 bad debate in 8 years and everyone remembers it because it was such a glaring fluke.

whatever your politics, you cant deny he has huge capacity to understand complex details, recall them on the spot, and explain them so that idiots can understand

>Trump is a intellectual featherweight compared to Obama
>that's opinion,

no, thats a fact

Being a liberal always means you're of inferior intelligence. I don't care how much you think you know about the world if you're stupid enough to come down on that side of the fence.

I disagree with your opinion

No; it's opinion.

staff is extremely important, but you can still see his intelligence when you compare his press conferences to trump's

Trump falls back the entire time on completely empty and meaningless statements like "we're gonna win win win" and "we gotta get tough"

Obama spends the entire time pouring out policy and detail.

I've got a registered IQ at 158, and am probably higher since I have yet to fail at a question on official Mensa tests..

I think Obama is more intelligent than me.

no, its fact

then you're wrong.

One is a liberal and one is a conservative. Which one is smarter?

I bet you think George Bush Jr. was incredibly intelligent too.

>more intelligent than me
more intelligent than *I*, perhaps?

why would anyone lie on the internet?

>Obama is half nigger
>Asking white people if they are smarter compared to half nigger
>?????

Obviously any white is smarter than a half nigger. What the fuck is that question.

lol, bush's press conferences were a disaster and he got embarrassed in all of his debates in both elections. Still smarter than Trump though.

I'm probably more intelligent than him in quantitative/analytical power, but less in social and far less in drive.

>>more intelligent than me
>more intelligent than *I*, perhaps?
..Are you joking? No. "Me" is correct when you're the object

There is no governing body for the English language, and thus there is no correct English.
I works as well in that sentence as me, and prolly better for most English speakers.

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You still think that Bush's presidential 'stupidity' wasn't just a performance?

Especially when anonymous.
There are thousands of people roaming through this site atm. If we say 2000, and that they're all of normal intelligence then 10 people are in the top 0.5% when it comes to IQ.

One of them is me.

I'm probably just as smart, but I've never spent any real amount of time studying politics, history, economics, foreign affairs, etc. so I'm not even close to being qualified to being president. Had I taken a different course in life, and with a bit of luck, yeah I could have been president one day.

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i wouldn't beat obama

"I" is a subject, even when you're comparing one subject to another. You could also write: "He is more intelligent than I am." If, however, you were to say, "He owns me, intellectually speaking," then "me" is the object of ownership.

So, No, I'm not joking.

I don't think Obama is dumb. As rubot said in the republican primaries, he knows exactly what he's doing.

well he's 50% black and I'm 100% white. basic math really. yeah I'm smarter

Intelligence no but logic and understanding reality fuck yes a million times more. People these days have intelligence and knowledge but fucking ditto zero logic and reality.

you do mean the republican primates?

Bush was never anywhere near as stupid as people thought he was but I do believe that his brain became a bit frazzled towards the end. I think his bad public speaking had something to do with that and not him being inherently a dumb fuck.

That would be true if there was a second clause in that sentence. There isn't. Draw the tree and see where the object ends up.

>topfuckingkek

obamas' grades,papers in schrool,record of trying a case,one case,from plead to jury selection,or bench trial,scroolbuds who remember him,,u/k,harvard schrool records,,sealed,obama will not disclose them.
obamas flat un thoughtout predictions of obamacare costs,proved wrong,,he knew they were wrong,he knew they would fail,that must mean,nothing else but that,he lied.
Obama's world view,defies numbers,betrays historical ignorance,speeches are absolute stereotypical, change verb around 'women,children,familiesssss,minoritiesssss,
groupsss,,folksssssss, partnerssss,alliesssss, concensussssss,,the Boss,on occasions of solemn remembrances,pearl harbor,fdrs accomplishments, and failures has to show his flock he knows what they did,why,appreciative of sacrifice,the Boss has to paraphrase and carefully cite history,EG ww2,major battles,casualties,the toll required to free millions from fascism,in ultimate self interest,keeping fascist armies far away from our homeland. O gets a D,biden gets a D,chuckyboy schumer,a D in first semester constitutional law,flubbing a fifth grade question, hillary, a cork socker, so was bill,these movers and shakers are dumb as a boxa rocks,reflecting their lo info base of support,liberals who sob and throw fits at the thought of paring down the central mega state & its' expropriation of working peoples efforts to pay their bills.

He looks almost as bad as bill in this picture.

HE'S A NIGGER!

i imagine this is what Trumps notebook looks like

Turns out both constructions are okay. But the second clause could be implied. Fully written, it would be: "He is smarter than I am smart." "Than," in this case, is apparently a subordinating conjunction. The rules are hazy though.

Less. He is a Harvard Law grad with an IQ of 148 and has achievements I could never dream of. I'm very intelligent and doing my doctorate soon but he is even more so and is as astute as one can be than him being as much of an erudite as he is makes me seem stupid by comparison. He literally made history and can be read about 300 years from now.

I respect him greatly. I'm half black too and want to follow in his footsteps.

Who the fuck let you off of Time Cube Otis?
Go back and update your site. We need to learn more about time from your distinguished genius.

Bernie Sanders supporters are living in their parent's basement.
FACT

Intelligent people recognize that they're not experts on literally everything, and make use of specialists instead of blowing hot air out their ass.
If he can select a good circle of experts and make use of their instruction that's smart enough to me, the world's full of fucking morons who could take a lesson from him (but they won't, because they don't take lessons from anybody).

And besides, if the critique of the sentence was meant as a slight to your IQ score, it fails. IQ has little to do with english constructions like this one.

>The rules are hazy though.
More hazy than you think. Especially for written English:
This isn't wrong

Cool response. Also, use commas.

Agreed that Trump is a featherweight.... compared to any even moderately well red university student. Let alone Obama.

he's just a good actor, a good spokesperson.

He's paid to be "cool" and "fun", his intelligence has never been displayed.

i don't think he's very intelligent, but neither am i.

Pedantic fuckery like debating "I" vs "me" is a giant waste of time

>But explain why Trump would fail with all the same help Obama has?

Because Trump is a fucking egoist who thinks he knows better than everyone, including any experts he hires to help him.

I would seriously hate to be employed by that man - you'd tell him what to do, he'd ignore you, then he'd fire you when it didn't work because he's a thin skinned shit who will never admit he's wrong.

Smart men realize their weaknesses and find other smart men and make use of their intellect. Idiots - like Trump - think they're the smart man in every situation.

Indeed. The art of effective delegating shows smarts on its own.

I'm on my phone and not writing a paper. I don't care much for how technical my writing is. Plus is doesn't tie back to me irl so I have no reason to give a fuck.

Everyone does everything for him, and the decisions he brands his name onto are fuckups.

Cough obamacare, cough DNS , cough backing Hillary

they needed a clever nigger, they forged it.

As they did for black science man, the guy is a shitty scientist, but he's black and good at "looking cool" so he was promoted as "one of the most famous scientist"

Maybe. But surely no more wasteful than looking for a few squirtles to boost your blastoise with some horrible cannnibal sweets.
Also, correct and unambiguous language is important for communication. There is no greater communicative tool, no more important piece of technology than our languages. Without them everything else falls. So clarifications about which structures exists where and how they work can be important. Prolly not for a post on Cred Forums tho.

>"He is more intelligent than I am"
LOL you're really proving your intelligence. You can't end a sentence in a preposition, genius.

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Check'd mate

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Please be b8.

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What the bait is this....

70% smart as Obama
480% smarter that average Trump supporter.

>are you smarter than a puppet
hmm, dunno tbh, probably, how could you be dumber than a filthy google

HILLARY said: "Bernie Sanders supporters are living in their parent's basement."
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

lets get this perfectly clear, the president is SUPPOSED to be smarter than you. In this case, Obama was definitely an intelligent person and miles above the average american. George W. Bush on the other hand did not seem that intelligent.

Obama is way less smart than rumored. For example, Obama is very stupid when it comes to law. That's because he was in the CIA, and never was actually a lawyer.

>autism

is this bait or are you seriously this stupid?

>Voting for Bernie
>From your parents' basement

Obama is stupid. He doesn't know law. It's hilarious. The guy is stupid as hell.

you can join the list

However, Obama is very stupid. He is possibly the stupidest lawyer I've ever heard of. Can you imagine a lawyer who doesn't understand law, or legal reasoning, or the constitution (this is particularly hilarious, since he was billed a conlaw expert)...

He's just a CIA hack. He never learned law, and is as such stupid as shit. Arrogant as a bandit.

Less. No doubt in my mind on that. He is extremely sharp.

>Shilling this hard

Not a Bernie fan, but I say vote for Bernie if you wanted to before cunton cheated him out of the race. Show the dems that you wanted Bernie, and maybe they'll learn not to be such big cunts in the future.

t. a yuge fan of trump

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you didn't need to tell us you are a trump fan. We could see it with your shitty spelling and stupid statement.

:-) You sound miffed, basement-dwelling BERNIE supporter!

He doesn't even know anything about law.

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>went to harvard law school
>chicago law school
>was a civil rights attorney
>JD credentials
>Illinois senator

Does not know about law?

>being this fucking retarded.

No, he doesn't. He doesn't understand law at all. Not at all. It's actually very funny how little he knows about law. He knows less than someone who has watched half of a The Learning Company lecture series on the matter.

Either full blown retard or bait. 2/10 made me reply.

Yes, he has credentials, but at every moment where he could exhibit knowledge of law he shows none. You would never think he knew anything about law, no matter what he's talking about. That's particularly strange, since he's supposed to have a law degree, but it's a fake on for CIA agents. Like Putin's degree. It's just cover.

Trump, is that you?

My IQ is probably close to his, but he's much more intelligent.

Only one of us was a shitty president though!

No, it's really true. It would have been cool if a constitutional scholar had been elected, but Obama is ignorant of how law even operates, indicating he never even attended 1L.

so I guess credentials (what we use in this country to certify a professional) don't matter anymore right? Have you ever gone to college? Just a serious question, you being this stubborn and stupid just shows me you don't know how education works. You actually do need to know about the law to achieve those credentials.

dude, everyone has been calling you stupid. Being stupid and hard headed is a very bad mix. Just maybe let go, and admit that your point is wrong.

my spelling's fine cunt, just poor syntax and arrangement of words. Also I need more of the little 'dot' like symbols your kind call 'punctuation'.

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I can't tell if the bullying is to get them out of their basements to vote for him, or to break them and make them more miserable than ever. Remember, they are bernie supporters, they aren't the strongest tools in the tool house.

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You guys have to stop....this is embarrassing. Literally video of him giving a speech from 1990 at Harvard Law School. So much for that conspiracy theory. Just monumental amounts of evidence of not only his attendence but the fact that he finished Magna Cum Laude and Valedectorian.

He then taught constitutional law for 12 fucking years.

I hate conspiracies that are BLATANTLY false and peddled like truth. I admit it rustles my jimmies no end.

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Sit down.

The CIA fakes credentials often. It's just called "cover". Very common. Most countries do it.

But boy is Obama fucking stupid. Go and see. Not one instance of Obama knowing a damn thing about law. That's because he never received even 1 second of legal education.

lol you are too far gone

Give an example from him taking a question from a reporter. Anybody can read a speech.

(yes, I know questions can be setups too)

If you like black people then you're probably a genetic dead-end.

You say this like no public officials ever do this

It does not matter because we will have a new overlord shortly. One that is much smarter and far more powerful.

My IQ is 142.

Also, Obama is a fabrication. In reality, he is just another affirmative action non-job activist who has had doors held open for him by fellow commies. A dime a dozen.

He won't even release his college records.

if your iq was over 100 you wouldnt be calling him a commie lmfao

he got himself elected president of the united states, and i did not. regardless of HOW he got elected to that position, whether it was all charisma, all connections, or all hot air, that makes him smarter than me. hell, if he conned his way into the white house, that makes him smarter generally than he would be if he got there legitimately. anyone who's on this website and willing to say theyre smarter than him is a retard. if youre smarter than him, take over the us, because if you're right you can definitely do it

His college records have been released dufus. you can probably find them online.

Yes, he's fucking stupid. Did you know he never went to law school (officially they say he did, but he didn't ever even go)?

I think I'm about as intelligent. That being said, he is more ambitious and more charismatic than I am.

Obama is a dummy. He doesn't know one damn thing about the law.

in all seriousness neil degrasse tyson is a fraud. he's been called out for being wrong about trivially basic shit numerous times.