Let's talk about Janne da arc!

Well, I wanna know if she is beautiful or not, they often say she is kinda ugly though, but I don't wanm believe that!

Jeanne d'arc* newfag.

well there are no actual confirmed historic scources about her appearance. Most if not all art depicting her was made hunderds of years after her actual passing. So we have no actual idea on how she looked. But if you consider that she was mostly used as an early form of propaganda and morale boost she most likely wasn't ugly (for medival standards) but at the same time she also saw actual combat so she couldn't have been a beauty queen either.

Awesome!
Indeed she couldn't be ugly
Then about the voices of saints, do you think she actually hears the words from heaven?

>Do I think she actualy heard words from heaven?
No, let's be real here. If there is a higher power as described in the christian liturgy it wouldn't be bothered with a petty de jure claim despute between england and france.
>Did she get some sort of calling an believed it was a call from God
Yes, whatever it was that led to hear taking up arms and agreeing to be used as a icon of the french monarch. She truly must have believed it was a divine calling.

Thanks, then could it be that she suffered some schizophrenia or something at that point?

eh there are to little unbiased acounts of her to make such an assumption. However many historics agree that she had some form of ADHD.

I see
Then how about her last moment?
There're a lot of people who say her death was really cruel and undignified though

All the way up until she was sold out and burned to death. She was still, like, 17

captured by the Burgundians, sold to the English. Who had her on trial for rebelion against the crown, which acourding to the english claim on france was. She kept up with the 'voice from god' as reasoning. Which the English turned to voice of satan, as 'God would suport their rightful claim to the throne'. So they cold burned her at the stake, instead of the usual hung, drawn and quatered punishment for rebelion.
She most likely played it out this way as being cold burned is a lot less painful then hung drawn and quatered.
(incase your wondering cold burned means the person was already killed before being put on the stake, usualy by dagger through the hearth)

another thing you got to understand about heretics being burned at the stake is. During the medival and new age era nobody was burned at the stake alive. The reason they burned the bodies of heretics was in order to prevent them to become martyrs and have their remains become holy relics to other heretics.
Burning alive at the stake was a practice that was only done in the Americas during their 17th century witch hunts.

You're really an expert aren't you?
Really cool

I wouldn't exactly call myself an expert but early and high medival era combined with mesoptamian sumer have always intersted me a lot more then the other periods.
You just lucked out that I did my paper on Jeanne D'arc and still remember the jist of it.

Well just one more thing, the reason she cross dressed was to protect herself from rape right?
Do you think she actually got raped?

No, after she took up arms she quickly rilled up a small warband that followed her, I consider raping someone that is armed herself and has a few armed men following her a damn impossible thing to do. Jeanne D'arc didn't actualy cross dress that much, she did so on her way to the king and after a retreat from battle but this was mostly in order to avoid attracting english attention. She was after all a huge propaganda and morale boost to french troops. Who knew more then well that she was female.
Did she appear manly ? Yes no doubt, have you seen high middel age plate and chainmail, combine that with a helmet and it'd be pretty damn hard to spot any femine features about someone.
(because of this she most likely, rallied up the men and carried the banner without helmet)

Indeed it's Impossible
Thanks for everything mate, I didn't expect something meaningful like this from b!

Nope, she dressed as a man because armour was only made for men back then and if it was anything she wore it to show that she could fight just as well as any man.

Wether or not she was raped at some point is lost to the annals of time but that wasn't what the armour was for. It was for the same reason men wore it, protection on the battlefield.

hey if I can educate someone on history and peake their intrest in it I'm glad to have done it, if you have any other question feel free to ask while I'm here

The game was good... though the bloke that follows you (Mysterious past/power guy) self breaks past a certain point of levelling where he just can't be hit by anything. Walk into hardest boss room, ally gets instagibbed, he stands there and dodges every hit. Was the only problem I had with it.

Constantly raped while imprisoned.

That makes sense
It's sort of obvious when you think about it

She was probably average looking, one side probably just said she was ugly while the other said she was beautiful. Take the middle path when presented with two extremes.

Then how about this?

she was an french commander, and english crown prisoner. A prisoner of that high value wouldn't be touched unless a bailiff gave permision. I think it highly unlikely that she actualy was raped, or totured even.

If they did that then put her on trial then she probably could have spun that into her tale of God telling her to do good while pretenders stole the crown to do evil. They more than likely just gave her a very, very wide berth while she was imprisoned to avoid giving her anything to work with.

Either that or they let them have at her Hentai style but we'll never know the truth because she didn't "win" in the end.

I'm sort of glad to hear that

Do you know something about a village called Domremi?

And one more thing, what happened to her sister?

Please tell me it's next to Fa-so-la... I hated my old music classes

there isn't much to tell about Domrémy in a historic way, Jeanne D'arc was born there or in the rural areas around it. And later when she was a french comander requested it to be exempted from taxes, a request which the king granted most likely as thanks for her successes.

Can't tell you much about her besides that she was called Catherine.

Thanks
Well, now I wonder if she actually fought on the front line taking up a sword? Or because she's a commander as you said, she basically ordered?

What do you think happened to France if she wasn't there?

she did see actual combat but, she wasn't a frontline fighter. She was mainly used as morale boost, rallying up the men before the battle, initiating the charge (but not leading it) that sort of stuff. She was considered to valueable to the french leadership to actualy lead in the front lines.
She mainly ordered (think of what theoden did in lotr before the ride of rohirrim) and boosted morale.

I'm not sure she actually fought or gave orders back then, she wasn't born a fighter or anything like that. I'm not the historian user btw

Thanks for your opinions

do you know something about Gilles de Rais, or the relationship between Jeanne and him?

Sorry about many questions really

When do you think she learned some sort of battle strategies?
And is it true that she often made sneak attacks?

He was french marshal at the time, meaning he planned most battles and lead the campaign against the english. There are account saying he was good friends with Jeanne and that mentioning her capture and death would send him in a fit of rage, but wether these are factual is up to debate. What we objectively know is, that accepted Jeanne's warband into his campaign and agreed to let her see the king, aswell as supported the idea of her as propganda icon she is remembered as. So he must've been somewhat impressed by her or simply saw how usefull she was, the only thing we can factualy say is that her death was a huge blow to his campaign.
it's quite alright, I wasn't doing anything really.
Early on in her 'calling' she made use of small sneak attacks on english escorts for the simple reason she lacked men or experiance to do anything else. When she joined the french campaign she most likely was given some crash course training in actual combat and leadership, but seeing as she always had more experianced and actual trained knights and comanders with her on the later campaigns it's fair to say that these where the ones making the strategies which she then enacted.

There is only one good, Knowledge and one evil, ignorance.

Wait there's an anime about Jeanne?
Heresy!
Jeanne! Au secours! youtu.be/7CFrxdnYg6c?t=44

OP's pic is anime Jeanne D'arc, don't ask

Sheperd's daughter; crazy virgin (until da rape fest) bitch; hearing voices & all.
Great adventure, very bad ending.

There's the story.

How hot was she tho??

if you are into tomboys very hot.

Any historically accurate paintings?

It's based on the PSP game (or the game was based on it) from the screenshots, I'm actually going to have to give it a shot.

as stated before all depections of her where made several decades and hundered of years after her death. The closest we can get to a somewhat true depiction is this painted glass.

Actually scratch that, I was looking at the in game scenes by accident. The anime is a Fate spin off... another one to milk money

8/10 would not set ablaze

Jeanne a cute