What's the problem? Cursed?

You're doing what Liverpool have typically done, except you're doing it with better teams/players

>Benteke is Villa's best player, let's buy him
>Hmm, why isn't it working? he scored loads of goals for Villa

You need to buy players to fit a system, you can't just look at a players stats (or in Pogba's case, his 'name' or image) and throw them into a team together and expect it to work

But that's just what City and Chelsea did.

Real Madrid too.
Barcelona even with Neymar, Suarez etc. etc.

Bayern literally buy 3 top players every year.

They all seem to find success though, none of them struggle for 4th/5th place.

punishment by god forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2012/08/20/billionaire-investor-soros-buys-7-9-of-manchester-united/#53f67460216c

If they brought Fergie back now they'd still be shit

because manchester united is like taking a bunch of extensively prepared delicious meals and then putting them all into a blender thinking it'll come out tastting great

they have no clue how to build a team and establish a strategy, just buy expensive players and tell them to play

because neymar, suarez are actually good players unlike pogba and fellani. di maria didn't do badly and zlatan created the goal today.

----------------------de GOAT---------------------
New RB------Bailly------Blind-----------Shaw
-----------------------Carrick---------------------------
------------Herrera--------------------------------------
---------------------------------Pogba-------------------
Rashford-----------Zlatan-----------------Martial

Rooney pls go

>Pogba
>Best player in Italy,

he wasn't even the best midfielder in juventus

>inb4 premier league is so tough league

last time i checked it was like half a decade ago they made it to the top 4 in Champions League, and all PL teams usually drop on the last 16 or group lmao

it's different when you buy attackers, you are simply buying goal/assists, not altering the way the team works that much

yeah okay then m8

Simply because English can't understand the word "tactics". Get an Italian manager, and you'll be on your way to joining CL

> Zlatan left PSG where he gets fed dozens of assists from Di Maria to play with Mourinho the mastermind

Kek couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

Fuck, that's a great analogy.

surely experienced managers like van Gaal and Jose Mourinho are aware of this fact? I mean, you don't be a football manager for 20 years without picking up a thing or two about strategy and building teams

When Chelsea did it, money had only just been introduced to football, it was a new tactic that couldn't fail because other clubs couldn't compete.

City actually didn't really do it. They tried to at the start with Robinho and all that shit, but it didn't work, so they started a long term project. The last big name player they signed was De Bruyne, and that's not a Pogba/Ibra tier signing. You could suggest Stones, but he's not really a "big star" he went for a big fee because he's young and English. But other than that City haven't signed any big name players this summer and they're looking fantastic. Gundogan maybe but he's been irrelevant for the past 2 seasons.

Real Madrid haven't been as successful as they should be with all the names they've brought in. Plus look how many of these players end up failing.

Neymar and Suarez have pretty much been Barca's only massive signings in recent memory aside from maybe Fabregas. Other than that they've just been signing good players that aren't super known, plus bringing players thru the academy.

Bayern's recent star players were Vidal and Gotze. One of them flopped, but they're not signing stars every year. They're signing good players.

He was the best player in the world after Messi and Ronaldo.

The problem is that back in Mourinho's prime at Chelsea simply buying the best players made you the best team in the league, think about how shit the average team was in the premier league back in 2004

Now every team has money, every team in the top 12 has quality players and good managers

Back in 2004 teams like Everton with a yearly transfer budget of £5million, with Moyes in charge, were competing for top 4.

Ed Woodward is the problem.

He's the man who literally said "we can buy another Pogba every summer" like it was a good thing.

beyond being funny at this point

Watch and admire

youtube.com/watch?v=kjmvcousUPg

>City actually didn't really do it. They tried to at the start with Robinho and all that shit, but it didn't work, so they started a long term project. The last big name player they signed was De Bruyne, and that's not a Pogba/Ibra tier signing. You could suggest Stones, but he's not really a "big star" he went for a big fee because he's young and English. But other than that City haven't signed any big name players this summer and they're looking fantastic. Gundogan maybe but he's been irrelevant for the past 2 seasons.
oh come on

literally every player in their squad is a world class big name signing who was clearly wanted by all the top clubs in the world

aguero
silva
yaya
sterling
otamendi
mangala
even stones was the subject of a 40m bid by chelsea last year

in fact, most of city's signings were just united targets that city offered shit-loads more money to. the likes of aguero, silva etc. were all linked with united months before signing for city

so i don't buy that they had a planned long-term strategy

Gundogan is another one. United all over him, tried to sign him. Couldn't. He got injured and now City have took a risk by splashing huge money on an injury prone player. Something United couldn't really afford to do. They had a chance to with Vidal but passed on that because of the risk involved.

>3 mins in
>dabs and long passes
is this supposed to prove your point?

It's all relative.

When Everton were spending £5million net in one season and finishing 4th, the likes of United were only spending £25 million in one season and finishing 1st.

Except mouyes has no clue when in possession. he needs star players to defend & counter with individual ability.

But they didn't do it all at once.

They got the money in 2008. They won the league in 2012. That's 4 years of building a team.

Last time they won the league was 2 years ago. The team has changed since then but it didn't change overnight. They've prepared themselves for this next title challenge and it took them 2 years.

For the past 3 seasons, United have tried to build a title winning team in one summer.

>splashing huge money
it cost them like 1/5 poogba

How to fix united
>decide on a system and stick to it
>ask bailly to stop passing long
>work defensive drills with degea, smalling and bailly
>zonal marking for set pieces
>Fellaini only used as a sub to calm things down
>stop putting rashford and martial as wingers

Rooney is still playing

>Jose Mourinho
>>Greatest manager in the world
Here is your immediate problem. Appointing a guy who just managed to absolutely wreck a top four side within weeks is fucking stupid.

>problems and bullshit approach are well documented and increasing, oh let's put him in charge of the richest club in the league

>spending 5 times more
>pretending it's just a little more

Don't forget to tell Woodward to stop signing players for at least a year or 2.

The players from fucking 2014 still haven't gelled.

Everton aren't even a good example. They finished 4th once and then top 4 was a closed shop for the rest of the decade.

t. never watched him

A bit less than 1/3 of a Pogba. Though he did only have a year left on contract.

The point is it's all RELATIVE.

i.e. it's the same now, United spend £100 million, the likes of Everton spend £25 million

5 times more
It's the same

they deserve every bit of this, and it's so fucking glorious

finally shitter than lelverpool too

youtube.com/watch?v=xLkjRYQjfgE

Were Chelsea actually smart in blocking most of Mourinho's transfers?

Did they actually know he was going to waste money on stupid signings

How do you fall for all these memes

>One year left on contract
>Desperate to leave, now that Dortmund are finished and Klopp has left
>Injury prone and questions over whether he'll ever be the same player again

Yeah, that was HUGE money you retard. In relative terms he cost more than Pogba did given that Pogba is never injured, is only a 23 year old kid and had a 4 year contract.

The big name superstar statement signings have Woodward's name written all over them. He doesn't know how to run a football club.

He thinks real life football works the same as FIFA career mode.

>In relative terms he cost more than Pogba

He signed for 21m
Pogba signed for 86m

Actually he cost less than Pogba did.

youtube is not watching

Go to bed Woodward.

>Kagawa
>Best player in Germany

not even best player in Dortmund

>Mata
>Best player at Chelsea

no

>Falcao
>Best striker in the world

not even close

>di Maria
>Best player at Real Madrid (okay 2nd best, but still)

no

>Schweinsteiger
>Best CM in the world, treble winner and World Cup winner, captain of his country

no, past his prime

>Pogba
>Best player in Italy, future Ballon dor winner

no, overrated as fuck

>Zlatan
>Best player in France, 50 goals a year etc. etc.

maybe, but also past his prime

can't comment on Fellaini and Herrera since I dont know them too well but the rest is overrated as fuck.

>have player you bought for 400 grand
>win league
>He's now worth 40m
>Don't sell him, encourage him to stay by buying 30m friend and strike partner
>have insane pace, fight and togetherness all over the pitch
This is how you manage a football club

>your entire post

get a grip of yourself lad

>splashing huge money
20 mil compared to your 90 mil

>injury prone player
everybody has bad runs every now and again, only a select few are sicknotes

>something utd couldn't afford to do
are you fucking joking me pal you spunked 90 mil on a dabbing black gerard wiekens

>gundogan cost more than pogba
what are you on about? you realise pogba's wages will probably be far higher as well? and will only get higher and higher with new contracts? and gundogan is 25/26, hardly fucking old

jesus christ lads

lel how can you be so retarded? It cost them less than manure pays in pooney's wages+taxes in a season

FALCAO I ALMOST FORGOT

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

MAN POO BTFO

In an interview with the Daily Mirror, former Liverpool forward Kuyt says that the 23-year-old was rather vocal during the defeat, often complaining at his teammates over their mistakes.

“All I heard during the first half against United was Pogba screaming and shouting at his own players,” Kuyt said. “And when it was half-time, he was shouting at them all even louder.

“He was screaming at them about the things which were not going right for the team. The thing about United is that they only know one way to play.

lol yelling at his team in a foreign language doesn't stop him from running off to the wings and doing nothing every match.

100% he would have been told to sit down and shut the fuck up in a Roy Keane/Fergie dressing room.

>now that Dortmund are finished and Klopp has left
They were the most successful second place ever last season. Klopp left, because he realised they'd become too predictable under him.

outplayed by aston villa reject el ahmadi and a 57 year old kuyt

They are not cursed they are just incompetent

You don't make a good team by having 11 superstars.

serious question, why does mourinho keep using that formation? its clearly not working.

Maybe you'd like to borrow a dictionary to look up the word 'relative'.

le dab man EXPOSED

>Mata
>Best player at Chelsea
Lol no.

>Falcao
>Best striker in the world
Again, no. He was always Overrated, his finishing was good, but other than that, nothing. After his injury he couldn't even reach his former level.

>di Maria
>Best player at Real Madrid (okay 2nd best, but still)
But that was Modric. But yeah, he's really good, blame LVG.

>Schweinsteiger
>Best CM in the world, treble winner and World Cup winner, captain of his country
Not even close, Modric and Iniesta are miles ahead of him.

>Pogba
>Best player in Italy, future Ballon dor winner, universally accepted as a world class player maybe even on a par with Messi/Ronaldo in terms of ability, and Ferguson's biggest ever mistake.
Now you sound like someone who just watches youtube compilations. He's not even in the same league as the best CMs in the world.

>van Gaal
>World class manager. Has won everything. Multiple CL titles, took a shit Dutch team to the World Cup semi-finals and nearly won the fucking World Cup. Has proven himself in Spain, Netherlands and Germany.
His Bayern side had much better players than Utd and they didn't play that much better.

>Jose Mourinho
>Greatest manager in the world, has won every league ever.
You mean the guy who's almost got Chelsea relegated? kek. He's outdated. His defensive concept isn't anything special anymore and tactically his offensive concept was never good.

>Conquered Pep's Barcelona
youtube.com/watch?v=uSk7kAfeu2I

Why don't you watch football or read a few books about football before you come here again and proof that you have no clue about football.

abramovich knew that Raiola would jew their last penny out with meme players.

This but mkhitaryan on rw once he gets settled snd rashford to come on as super sub

Reminder that Liverpool bought Benteke to relegate Villa

You can spout all the memes you like about those players. It's not going to change reality.

They were all world class, top players who should be more than capable of walking the league against the likes of Arsenal and Leicester regardless of tactics/systems/managers etc. but they all flopped/are flopping once they moved to United, despite dominating their leagues beforehand.

Because they were all brought in for big money with big expectations alongside other big money players and were expected to form a partnership and gel with their new teammates (a great deal of which were new signings too) within a summer, which was obviously never going to work.

It's not a "curse", it's bad management. Simple as that.

Fellaini is a one season wonder like Falcao
Pogba is overrated, Matuidi/Verrati/Modric/Kroos are 10 times better than Pogba (Pogba should play as an offensive midfielder instead of a regista)
Rooney must go, I know he's an historical figure of the club but he's just useless
Zlatan is a talented striker if you let him do his stuff, put some physical defenders pressuring on him and he's done.
Mourinho defensive style is outdated in a football world constantly evoluating, defenses don't win games like they used to do in 2010 with Spain or Mourinho's runs with Chelsea/Porto in CL.

It looks strong on the paper but most of Utd players are overrated. Mata, De Gea etc are still strong but unable to carry a team of egomaniacs unable to perform as a team.

problem with man utd fans is they are arrogant enough to actually believe all this

>it's bad management
So why have proven quality managers failed? Three of them.

I don't think it's a curse but you can't just say it's bad management. van Gaal, Mourinho and even Moyes to an extent have been successful managers for over two decades.

>Fellaini is a one season wonder like Falcao
Where to begin with this.

1. Fellaini never even had one season of wonder. He was just always a big, tall, ariel threat who caused opposition teams absolute havoc. Something he's failed to do since joining United.

2. Falcao was the best striker in the world for a minimum of 3 consecutive seasons and before that he was a solid Higuain/Benzema tier of player for 4 years.

it's fun to browse their forums, the collective delusion is wonderful

The problem is mourinho, he is one of the overated manager in the world.
Take guardiola, ancelotti or simeone

one of the most*

What "memes"? Schweinsteiger wouldn't have played one game at the World Cup if Gündogan would've been fit. He hasn't been truly fit for more than two years.
Falcao was a good finisher, and that's it. He's nothing special and never came close to Lewa, Suarez or Aguero. Pogba is the biggest meme player ever, his decision making on- and off the ball is horrendous. No world class player would even think of shooting that often from outside the box. His football brain is too small (at the moment).

Combine that with a manager who isn't on par with the best at the moment and there you have it.

Come on now. Van Gaal was great 15 years ago. Mourinhos time is over, he's outdated, and Moyes managed a mid-table team and was successful by letting them play mid-table football (although quite good).

Really? Because all I see on their forums is links to Bluemoon and RAWK, full of laughing emojis at your delusion.

You're absolutely clueless or just trolling.

What's funny, is that 2 months before any of these players signed for United, I can guarantee with 100% certainty you (and others) would be wanking yourselves silly over these players.

>m-muh Zlatan
>m-m-muh Pogba, Fergie dun goofed!!!
>Schhweinsteiger GOAT!! Better than Roy Keane ever was!!!
>Falcao >>>> van Persie
etc.

Then the second they sign for United and your "opinion" instantly changes.

I bet you rate Neymar now, right? We'll see how much you rate him when he transfers to United in the summer of 2017..

"h-h-he was always a meme player, carried by Suarez!!"

You're so painfully predictable.

MU isn't a football club, it's a business dedicated to sell shirts to Asians.
They don't buy big names to have a great team, but to get money.
It's not a surprise if they play like shit then. Even with a good manager, you're bound to drop a shitload of points with a frankenstein'd team. And they keep hiring abrasive celebrity managers (= fraud) like Van Gaal and Mourinho which doesn't help.

In short, they're doing everything to have terrible results, but they don't care as long as they make money.

>calls themselves the devils
>expect not to lose favour with God
>lelgium too

>Manure is spending millions to avoid being the new Liverpool
>still fail
>meanwhile Liverpool is improving and might win the league
>and that's without splashing hundred of millions of bucks on dabbers and "strong tough guys"

Oh the irony.

essentially paying around £2million to relegate villa was one of the best pieces of business in football history desu

Great arguments. Then tell me, why does your team look like shit for four seasons in a row?

>I bet you rate Neymar now, right? We'll see how much you rate him when he transfers to United in the summer of 2017..
Can't tell if bait.

>meanwhile Liverpool is improving and might win the league

I'm a Liverpool fan myself but lets not get carried away just yet la, would just be pleased with 5th place this season desu

am not a lelverpool or man shitty (((supporter)))?

just funny how it fucks with their heads that they're simultaneously THE BIGGEST CLUB IN 'T WORLD and lose against Watthefuckford and Beyenoord in the space of 4 days.

you shouldn't even be named in the same sentence as lelverpool or shitty though

lelverpool actually use this invention called tactics, and pep has effortlessly restyled a team within the space of two months

the only future man utd has is getting revamped into a football Lidl

>Complain about Chelsea and City buying the league
>Try to buy the league
>Can't beat Watford

Let's take a look at the number 7.

Best. Cantona. Beckham.

MEMEPHIS DEPAY.

Don't know whether it's more funny or sad.

>Then tell me, why does your team look like shit for four seasons in a row?
Not my team m8. Don't really give a toss about United, I just think ABUs are pathetic. But to answer your question, that was the point of the OP I think.

>Can't tell if bait
What's baitable about it? It's the exact same thing. What you say about Neymar now is the same as you said about Pogba last season. But come 2017 when he transfers to United for 100 million you'll be reversing your position, like you did for di Maria, Falcao, Schwein, Zlatan etc. etc. etc.

>>Complain about Chelsea and City buying the league
You're thinking of Arsenal mate.

Aguero and Silva (and again with Otamendi) were all because their parent clubs were in debt
Yaya was overrated
The English players are just promising young players

Mangler wasn't hyped

>could have three small countries for 1 Pogba

>tfw he's gitting gud again now he's back at monaco and will lead us to the ligue 1 title

>Yeah, that was HUGE money you retard. In relative terms he cost more than Pogba did given that Pogba is never injured, is only a 23 year old kid and had a 4 year contract.
This is easily the stupidest post I've ever read

And you don't even have a US flag

>mfw waking up and seeing the score

> 5th place

Fuck that, with Leicester and United out, you only have to content with Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham & Everton for top 4. Go for gold.

>I don't care about united
>Let me show how much I don't care by defending them all over the thread
Ok

>>Falcao
>>Best striker in the world
are you being le serious

>>van Gaal
>>World class manager. Has won everything. Multiple CL titles,
He's won 1 Champions League.

City did that with Mancini and they couldn't get past the group stage.

>Kagawa
literally nobody
>Fellaini
meme player, not even average
>Mata
shite, as chelsea is
>Falcao
dead career
>di Maria
PSG made him shit, you signed shit, not real madrid cool stuff
>Schneiderlin
who?
>Herrera
shite wtf
>Schweinsteiger
punished swein
>Pogba
le meme strong negro, meh tier
>Zlatan
I could be the best player in france, that means nothing, overrated as fuck, he has never been a top level player
>Moyes, Van Laal
hahaha
>Mourinho
narcisistic retard, doesn't know about football anymore

Manchester is not cursed, it's just obvious garbage

>he has never been a top level player
blatantly wrong desu

they spent too much on players so they can't bribe the ref anymore

>losing to cucksenal twice
I'd rather lose the league than let those faggots win

City got into the semis last year

>What's baitable about it?
>when he transfers to United
That's baitable.

And no, I wouldn't say those things about Neymar because I think people don't over- or underrate him.

You can pull the ABU card as often as you like, but it doesn't change the fact that Pogba has been overrated while he was at Juve and then during the summer he's been hyped up even more. It was crystal clear to me he's not gonna live up the expectation or even reach his Juve level.
It shouldn't be a surprise that a player who's played in a freerole in a pretty good 4-man midfield plays shit as a double pivot with muh'facking Fellaini.

>Schweini
Never said anything bad about him, he's just past his peak, if he could stay fit he could be a starter, even though the questions remains how fit he even can get.

>Falcao
There's a reason nobody wanted him the summer United got him.

>Di Maria
Didn't write anything bad about him.

And please fuck off with that ABU shit. If you can't argue properly, don't post. All I have read is "hurr durr before United bought them you thought they were good", not a single football argument.

this has to be a bait, so much bullshit such as

>Kagawa
>Best player in Germany
>Pogba
>maybe even on a par with Messi/Ronaldo in terms of ability
>Jose Mourinho
>Greatest manager in the world,

kys

Gundogan has scored for city, has pogba?

no

lol

Pogba's undroppable because of his agent, fee and sponsor

City can afford to just shove Yaya in the reserves, the Gundam signing isn't an issue for them if it's bad it's just a write off.

>mouyes

Oh well, in that case the whole point falls completely flat then. I mean ONE whole trophy of difference. I guess we should just pack up and move on eh?

Retard.

They're ran like a business rather than a football club, a nationwide problem. The reason why it so recurrent at Manchester United is that it signing players who Adidas or EA want gives them business success without the difficulties of actually winning things.

That and their bandwagoners who called for Van Gal to be sacked are hard to tell apart from ABU's now a days, essentially meaning they have most footballing fans against them minus the 50,000 fans from Manchester.

>There's a reason nobody wanted him the summer United got him.
You mean apart from Real Madrid right? Or are you still trolling? Maybe you just have a poor memory. Marca was going ballistic for weeks after he went to United. Their fans were butthurt as fuck.

Is rebbit right, Cred Forums?

More right than anyone ITT to be fair.

post yfw winning the europa league is manure's only chance for champions league football next season and still fail to win it
>w-we didn't want to win it anyways
>nobody likes to play europa league nor champions league
ayyyyyyyy

Not sure what you're even talking about or why you quoted that post in your reply, but would Gundogan score if he was playing for United? Even if he had 5 games to do it in? Or 10 or 20?

I don't think so.

Now would Pogba have scored for City if he transfered there in the summer instead of United? I'm thinking he could have had 5 in 5 + maybe 5 assists too.

Because they're shit, overrated, and should die.

Settle down, we'll still finish 2nd in the league by a comfortable margin and probably pick up one of the 3 cups we're in too.

The problem is we're not looking capable of winning the league or the CL at this point. Which we should be.

united lucked out big time with le golden generation of kids. the football gods require that their transfers fail until balance is achieved.

algeria does it again

Everyone replying to you nitpicking and arguing about who the best players/managers are is missing the point of the post.

Yeah, these players and managers may not be the best in the country or best in the world like OP is saying, but they were all really fucking good players or managers before being signed by Man U.

Then they all turned to shit. Why?

No because Benitez didn't even fucking play that formation

overwritten with a useless history of mouyes' style, like most leddit analyses
he could have said it in one line: need someone to cover for pogba that isnt wigman and someone more creative than a shot old striker

within this system and given that the transfer market is closed, blind would most likely be the best supporting player for a rooney-pogba midfield

but the system means nothing. your players dictate what system it is you play, not the other way around.

and fellaini should be in the championship

ourinho lost the same number of games in the last year that he did in the previous 15 or so years.
He's end as a great manager has finally come. His now the torres of managers

>luck
That's called fantastic management, both on and off the pitch. Brilliant organisation and planning.

The guy was saying that gundogan was somehow a greater risk than pogba and I was pointing out that even if that were true the risk is paying off, why are you arguing hypotheticals, it's irrelevant

An American flag getting the point when nobody else is.

Colour me surprised.

But they genuinely are the best. If you asked Cred Forums to vote for a World 11 in the years 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015. I can guarantee you that nearly every name in OP's post would make the 11 alongside Messi and Ronaldo at one stage or another. And if they didn't they'd be 12th-15th in the voting.

United are trying to squeeze square pegs into round holes I think

I think you have a poor memory sir. That was the summer Falcao got back from his long injuries and United loaned him on deadline day. I'm pretty sure Real could've got it him if they really wanted him.

>rooney
i think you mean herrera

i'd rather play ashley young as a partner for pogba than rooney

there certainly was interest in him at madrid, not sure why it all went to shit

>I'm pretty sure Real could've got it him if they really wanted him.
Then you're wrong. United moved in and stole him from under Madrid's noses. Falcao went to United because they offered a more attractive proposition than Madrid did.

>But they genuinely are the best
but they're not and weren't when they were at their old clubs (except mourinho)?
they were all good parts working well in systems, not world beaters
>Kagawa
wasn't the best player at dortmund before utd signed him
>Fellaini
one purple patch
>Mata
that's why mourinho decided to call him a luxury player, get rid of him and win the league?
>Falcao
and became was permacrock when monaco shipped him to england
>di Maria
I can give you this one, he is actually a good player who hated LvG, the way the team played, the city etc
>Schneiderlin
another decent player in a well-drilled system
>Herrera
rumors
>Schweinsteiger
old and ravaged by injury prone, everyone knew the WC was his swan song
>Pogba
hype, he is good but not good enough to carry a team
>Zlatan
good with a better team in a weaker team
>David Moyes
see fellaini, his career has been a disaster since utd
>van Gaal
old and his best years were pre bosman

instead of just buying players and waiting for them to magically do good, united should build a system first and then buy the players they need

>Why
Ferguson. The veterans that played with him don't accept anyone else and ruin the team relationship between new players and the manager. And probably how the society is run too, fergie handled everything himself once he left nobody knws how to do it

Maybe there is a reason why Sir Alex Ferguson got ride of Pogba in the first place after all......

Should have gone for Benitez

United is suffering from American owners, just like Liverpool but on a much bigger scale. All that matters to the owners is revenue. United will make money whether they finish 1st, 4th or 10th. Buying "insert big names here" each season keeps them relevant. It doesn't matter if that player can perform for them. What matters is that he can sell tickets/shirts, has a big presence on social media and is well known in FIFA.

What problem?

>Kagawa was the best player at Dortmund la
>Pogba is useless he will never do anything good luck in Italy la
>Fergie is never wrong,Moyes will be a success la
>Moyes number 1. He won the Community shield la
>Fellaini is a great signing. He will crush it with Fabregas la
>Van Gaal is legendary he will be great and win us the treble la
>Phil Jones is world class la
>Neymar soon la
>We need Carrick to play more games, we always win when he plays la
>Di Maria is the best player in the world we will crush it la
>Falcao is objectively the best 9 in the world who will stop us la
>Rooney still has, it best striker in the prem la
>Ronaldo soon la
>Mata carried Chelsea to a CL he will crush it la
>Herrera crushed it in Bilbao the new Xavi la
>Bale soon la
>Muller soon la
>Lewandoski soon la
>Mourinho is the best coach in the world la
>Rooney still has it, best CAM in the prem la
>#Pogback. Literally unstoppable la
>Henrikh "The Ghost" Mkhitaryan signing of the summer la

>Rooney still has, it best RW in the prem
>Rooney still has, it best CM in the prem
>Rooney still has, it best CDM in the prem
>Rooney still has, it best RB in the prem
>Rooney still has, it best CB in the prem
>Rooney still has, it best GK in the prem
youtu.be/RUCn4w-S2KM

allah (pbuh) trips confirm islamic fox consecutive league victory

Nothing Mourinho needs more time to find a way to get rid of Pooney

Kagawa
>didn't play as #10, to accommodate Rooney (after Moyes arrived - Fergie knew what was up)

Mata
>doesn't play as #10, to accommodate Rooney

di Maria
>didn't play as #10, to accommodate Rooney

Falcao
>didn't play as #9, to accommodate Rooney

Mkhitarian
>doesn't play as #10, to accommodate Rooney

Pogba
>Plays deeper than he should, to accommodate Rooney

RVP
>forced out while Rooney stays

WHY DO GOOD PLAYS NOT SUCCEED AT UNITED?

more than anything, I miss >moyes

What the fuck are you talking about? Chelsea won it all just a few years ago

>do the math in my head
>weep

>Fellaini
>Moyes
>Everton ... Manchester United
should we tell him??

/thread honestly

yeah, that shit was kinda messed up... although if I recall, in his biography SAF basically said they had no idea/actual plan to sign RvP and it was kind of like a joke...
>put in cheeky bid for laughs
>tfw Arsene Wenger calls back with a counter offer
needless to say, van pussy was in the best form of his life at the time and you'd actually have to be retarded to pass up on signing him

still, was kind of aggravating watching Kagawa's career grind to a halt

>Press nicely
>Score beautiful goals
>Concede a shit goal after the defence or goalie shits the bed
>Play like shit for the rest of the match
Liverpool need to improve much more to aim for anything more than top 4 finish

>di Maria
>10

FUCKING PLS go

he has to play in such a general position to be deceptable to any opportunity to work some magic. Anything between Carrick and Zlatan is just catering to the few and slight strenghs he has, he isn't good at any one thing. But as soon as you take him out, so much concentrated quality is given space and opportunity to flourish

One thing was constantly present throughout all those years and that thing's name is...

...WAYNE ROONEY

Can't Ferguson manage it again? He isn't much older than Wenger

>Liverpool is improving and might win the league

They're way too inconsistent to win the league fucking hell.

>United moved in and stole him from under Madrid's noses.

Manure fans actually believe this

twitter.com/WAFCAaron/status/777198476543262721

Kek

Wait United fans are finally coming to the realization that Rppmey is a cancer?

Oh an spending 100m on a player that hardly ever contributes goals or assists is dumb.

Matuidi at least shows up with the occassional blooter.

Fergie used up all the good luck and now they're paying for it, remember when he used to field a shit starting eleven, play like shit and still somehow win? Those days are long gone now.

these teams you mention have a much more solid foundation to build upon though. that makes it easier to implement new players into their squads

don't be fucking dumb pogba will play much better with another good passer. He has fucking fellaini and rppney to play with not iniesta and rakitic, not marchisio and pjanic, not kroos and modric. Give him a decent midfielder and he will fuck everyone up.

if the dabbing black luke chadwick is worth 900 gorillion pounds, how much are non meme hard working midfielders like iniesta and modric worth?

You're funny England.

But enough with the jokes.

They got to the semis

Because only pakis and chavs support them here

>us

What section of the Formula 1 track are you from la?

With Manuel Pellegrini. He is Chilean.

>The small hamlet of United

The reason they're so shit is because they're just buying "good" players instead of buying ones that fit into their system.

City did it with Nolito, 13mil for a player that fits perfectly into their style of play
vs
86mil for Pogba that's played a whole different style of football at Juve.

>using a YouTube montage to prove a player is good
Wew lad

No, Falcao was only decent in his first year at Monaco, then get injured then go to Man U. He was already broken.

then obviously united is the problem you dumb nigger

nah, he did the right thing, retiring while being successful, not many people accomplished that

Ozil was always the 10 then Madrid went 433 after buying Bale.

Iniesta is priceless. Best player since OG Ronaldo.