GOAT players of your country

ITT post the best (in your opinion) 5 players of all time of your country, and tell why when it's not obvious

For France
>Michel Platini
>Zinedine Zidane
>Raymond Kopa
>Jean-Pierre Papin
Best striker in Europe if not the world in early '90s, Ballon d'Or winner. Didn't have chance though (changed clubs at the wrong time, born too late for Platini, born too early for Zidane)
>Didier Deschamps
Transformed good teams into winning teams. Won pretty much everything in every country he played.

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandro_Del_Piero#Honours
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Baggio#Honours
reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/3l9bw9/how_good_was_roberto_baggio/
youtube.com/watch?v=zCkluwm3L2I
youtube.com/watch?v=N6tauHyUP5g
youtube.com/watch?v=n1V2Poi0u4I
youtube.com/watch?v=ZhbjVmb00tg
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Beckenbauer
Loddar
Müller
Müller
Heynckes

...

Boniek
Deyna
Lewandowski
Lubański
Tomaszewski

>Jean-Pierre Papin
>Best striker in Europe if not the world in early '90s, Ballon d'Or winner. Didn't have chance though (changed clubs at the wrong time, born too late for Platini, born too early for Zidane)
He was shit.You just picked him because he won a ballon d'or

No Lato?

>Xavi
Probably the best CM in history
>Iniesta
One of the greatest midfielders of all time.Clutch as fuck
>Casillas
In his prime he was the best keeper in the world
>Raúl
In his peak years he could score anything.Even a watered version of himself(2004 onwards) he showed a very high level
>Butragueño
One of the most skilled players I have ever seen.He had very bad luck in the CL and in the WC

Debated between him and Tomaszewski, I picked Tomaszewski because Lato is a retard who almost ruined our entire FA recently.

>He was shit

Moore
Charlton
Matthews
Lineker
Gascoigne

>Maradona
>Messi
>Di Stefano
>Zanetti (My favorite player: sums up everything a footballer should be)
>Mmmh... Batistuta? Redondo? Kempes?

Éder

Zagorakis
Nikopolidis
Karagounis
That's it. Maybe Dellas and Papastathopoulos if I had to pick. We never had good players, we either had a group that could work well together and hide its weaknesses or we were shit.

>Xavi
>Probably the best CM in history

>Jean-Pierre Papin
>He was shit

Not you again

Buffon
F. Baresi
Scirea
R. Baggio
Meazza

>He was shit
Yes.He was a worse version of Inzaghi.Not even memeing.Even Griezmann should be higher than him

>Probably the best CM in history
This is objective though.You can try to debate it though.You will just be proven wrong

Serena Williams is the best athlete of all time

t. armchair expert

Suarez
Francescoli
Recoba
Godin
Some dinosaur 20s-50s

>Literally who's

Why is Englel so shit at sports?

Nasazzi

Give your 5 GOATs, so we can compare them to England's

>comparing Papin to Inzaghi

Forlan >>>>>>>>> Recoba

Really he just won the ballon d'or due the obvious french vias.He wasn't very gifted technically and he was just good at tap ins and heading.He was like a watered version of Raúl or Inzaghi.France has produced way better players than Papin.Henry or Viera come to mind

>Papin to Inzaghi
Papin was worse

Beckenbauer
Gerd Müller
Fritz Walter
Lahm
Matthäus

Bob Lenarduzzi
Carl Valentine
Paul Stalteri
Paul Peschisolido
Alex Bunbury

Seeler and Schuster over the Müllers

I was born after the 60.

Europe is shook

>he wasn't good at these things, he was good at these other things
>therefore he was shit

By your logic Xavi was shit because all he could do was pass it sideways

well, technically I rate Recoba above Forlan but blondie won a few titles

Pulisic
Donovan
Howard
Dempsey
Lalas

>R. Baggio
>Over Del Piero
Simply false.Del Piero was a none loser and more stable version of Baggio

If we are going back as far as th 50s Fritz Walter should have a spot as well.
Maybe over Heynckes.

Moore
Charlton
Scholes
Rooney
Dele Alli

>By your logic Xavi was shit because all he could do was pass it sideways
This is just a meme.He started the play from way behind and he still managed to create a shit tone of chances per game.The only player that has created more chances in the WC than Xavi was Cruyff,and he played in a way more advanced position than Xavi.

Del Piero is the biggest choker in our NT history, at leat learn your facts before you talk shit

>All the good Brittish players are not english
How can england be so bad at football?

>Del Piero is the biggest choker in our NT history
Del Piero in 1 year won more titles than Baggio in all his career (not even memeing).Baggio was a roaster cancer that just chocked in big matches.There was a reason that Juve chose Del Piero over the fedora overlord

Jordan
Chamberlain
Lebron
Russell
Bird

I know a lot of people don't put Lebron in their top 5, but imo he entered that category last season. The main argument against him being elite was that he wasn't clutch, and that died with the Cleveland title.

I hope you are trolling, no one seriously believes Del Piero was better than Baggio
And yes, Del Piero was a huge choker, deal with it

>no one seriously believes Del Piero was better than Baggio
Juve did.And they started winning titles after le reddit ponytail man left

No they didn't, Baggio only left because he wasn't in good terms with Lippi. They still hate each other to this day

hahahahahahahaha

>No they didn't
>Le reddit man leaves
>Juve wins a CL
>Del Piero totally overshines him and become one of the best players in the world
>Baggio ends up with a secundary role at Inter overshined by Ronaldo
>Ends up playing in meme teams for the rest of his career
Redditman was a loser and Del Piero has won in 1 year more than Baggio in all his career

Or Andrade or Varela but Schiaffino is a bit more recent

Talent wise no way he compares. Recoba was awesome.

Since you seem to have an irrational hate towards Baggio, forget about him
Del Piero wasn't even better than Totti, why would I put him in the top 5?

Baggio was far better for Italy than Del Piero was.

You're really showing yourself up today with your fedorad opinions.

>Del Piero wasn't even better than Totti, why would I put him in the top 5?
Yes he was
>Baggio was far better for Italy
Maybe at choking in finals.Overall his career is nothing compared to Del Piero's.Than just in 1995 accomplished more than the reddit man in all his career

Maldini
Baggio
Buffon
Totti
Pirlo
Only players i saw playing regularly

Del Piero was a huge chokers in our NT and people here are still mad about it, me included

>Michael Laudrup
No explanation required
>Brian Laudrup
His rep isn't as big as his brother, but Brian is arguably the best national team player Denmark ever saw
>Peter Schmeichel
NER
>Morten Olsen
102 caps as libero for the great Danish '80s team. Captain and defensive rock for what was an otherwise very attscking team.
>Jon Dahl Tomasson
52 goals in 112 games. Not a very technically skillful player, but his goals kept an otherwise mediocre team competitive with a good ratio of tournament qualifications.
If I had to use my heart a bit more, Tomasson's spot would have gone to Elkjær or Alan Simonsen.

The only idiot to chose Del Piero over Baggio and Totti was Cesare Maldini, aka the worst manager in our NT history
Baggio carried Italy to a WC final, Del Piero sucked dicks at WC98 and WC02, not to say he costed us Euro2000
There's a reason why Zoff, Trapattoni and Lippi always chose Totti over Del Piero, because Del Piero was the biggest choker in our NT history
Every football expert agrees that Baggio is the best italian forward since Meazza and Piola, but I'msure the contrarian opinion of a loser on the internet is the corret one. Neck yourself

Del Piero was the choker. Baggio was exquisite in 1990 and 1994 obviously excluding that penalty shootout. Literally the anti-Zidane 98.

H E L V E G

Matthäus
Netzer
Müller
Heynckes
Neuer aka GOAT

What player. We've been blessed with some extremely solid, reliable guys in his position (RB for the nt). I wish the same was the case for the left side.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandro_Del_Piero#Honours
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Baggio#Honours
Baggio will just be remembered by Fedora tippers like (You).He was a walking loser with a funny haircut

>this guy calling loser anyone
lmao

...

Let me guess: you choose CR over Messi

Walter
G. Müller
Matthäus
Beckenbauer
Overrath

>>this guy calling loser anyone
>lmao
>Restores to adhominems
>He is probably way poorer and a bigger loser than I am
No.Messi is better than TSU.Still Del Piero pisses all over le reddit man
You should all go back to your home board btw.
reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/3l9bw9/how_good_was_roberto_baggio/

> I rate Recoba

Give us some more of your meme opinions, I can't wait to hear what else the rest of the world is wrong about.

Sterling
Walcott
Oxlade Chamberlain
SWP
Lennon

What about Gekas or Amanatidis?

You're the fedora tipper here buddy. The majority of the footballing world rates Baggio higher than Del Piero.

Erik van der Leur
Mark van Bommel
Boudewijn Zenden
Fernando Ricksen
Kevin Hofland

They're from the south and knew what football was about

Ok Italy, who has been your favorite national team player during those years?

Totti?

>The majority of reddit rates Baggio higher than Del Piero.

>meme opinions
They are called the truth.My football IQ is just too high for you lot

Spencer
Valencia
Kaviedes
Delgado
Hurtado

Most of you probably know one name on that list. Two if you have ever checked the Copa Libertadores article on Wikipedia before.

Andi Ogris
Toni Polster
Hans Krankl

>Two if you have ever checked the Copa Libertadores article on Wikipedia before
Or if you're Polish and old enough to remember World Cup 2006

>Spencer
Alberto really old striker
>Valencia
Man U
>Kaviedes
>Delgado
Both strikers who played in England though can't remember who for. Birmingham or something. Did one of these died?
>Hurtado
Ivan 'million caps' Hurtado. I only know him because I signed him on FM desu

Prohaska and Alaba?

Everyone here including multipe Italians agree, you are the only contrarian here

>Everyone here
This is reddit 2.0 due le redditor invasion of people like (You)

Crystal Palace and Southampton, respectively. Both still alive: Kaviedes on rehab for the gorillionth time, Delgado became a politician and somehow got elected to out Congress despite barely being able to read a speech.

Amanatidis is a literally who.
Gekas, while good compared to most of our other strikers, will always be underappreciated due to missing the penalty vs Costa Rica. And he'll always be behind Charisteas for obvious reasons.

>everyone is reddit but me
whatever makes you sleep at night hombre

>Implying that I care about your opinions

Pizarro
Cubillas
Nolberto Solano
José Velásquez
Víctor Benítez

Nothing else

Hugo sanchez
Rafa marquez
Claudio suarez
Andres guardado

i dont know about the fifth

Where townsend m8?

Gareth Bale
Ian Rush
John Charles
Ryan Giggs
Neville Southall

> No Thuram

what about based Vargas (Juan Manuel)

> Maybe at choking in Finals

lol you practically exposed yourself here. Del Piero's Euro 2000 final choke is worse than anything Higuain ever did.

Cesar Cueto la

Who the fuck rates this piece of shit ?

Elias Figueroa
Arturo Vidal
Claudio Bravo
Ivan Zamorano
Marcelo Salas/Alexis Sanchez

1. Figueroa
2. Zamorano
3. Salas
4.Caszely
5.Vidal

>this flag, this post
Donovan
Beasley
Lalas
Freidel
Howard

t. Can't put his dislike of Thuram the person aside and rate his ability as a player

>fucking brits posting Welsh, Scottish and English players despite all being under one flag

>MUH WHATEVER

must be frustrating when other countries have history and culture

Litti
Hyypiä
Eremenko
Miklu
Jolle

wew lad i'm from the south and i would not make such a meme list.

Not in order
Cruyff
Van Basten
Gullit
Robben
Sneijder

CR7
Eusébio
Figo
Paulo Futre
Rui Costa

>Del Piero wasn't even better than Totti, why would I put him in the top 5?
totti is one of the top 5 or at least top 10 players worldwide. He just ont rated because he only played in a single shit team.
One of the most underrated players of all time

buffon/totti/baggio
maldini
vieri

I have no idea about those who played before so ài can't rate them

>that fucking assist
youtube.com/watch?v=zCkluwm3L2I

>Caszely

Quedó pasado a meme.

If Del Piero/Delvecchio didn't choke against France, he would be rated far higher.

Totti was god tier in that game. Its crazy how its so forgotten just cause he lost. He outplayed prime Zidane so fucking much.

Pelé
Ronaldo
Romário
Zico
Garrincha

nah the credit would go to del piero. He was the most popular player for a long time who plaed in the most popular and successful team in italy.

Montana
Rice
Payton
LT
Woodson

Payton is so fucking overrated. lol at him being the GOAT RB.

how close is neymar to kicking romario out of that list?

Mohammad Hamadko
Abdelrazaq Al Hussain
Ahmad Al Salih
Zaher Midani
Nadim Sabagh

BOOM

>that flag
>that post

Not close. Brazillians love Romario cause he brought their first title after a huge drought and he also came back to play in Brazil when he was still in his prime.

Zidane's prime, regarding NT, was 2006 m8.
Inb4 headbutt

>Colombia
1. Faustino asprilla
2. Ivan Cordoba
3. Falcao
4. James
5. Carlos Valderrama

but he's 100% Jesus?

he was incredible in that game. He would press and take back the ball, hold possession and make italian pressing useless, distribute the ball and give assists, and then run to the box to shoot.
He did alone what we did with pirlo + gattuso, plus partially totti.
Total beast, he held the french side all by himself.But he couldn't hold his head.

youtube.com/watch?v=N6tauHyUP5g

>he fell for the pele meme

Gretzky
Howe
Orr
Lemieux
McDavid

Sanchez
Marquez
Blanco
Chichamierda
Vela

>no Valdivia

Peak OJ and Barry are 1 & 2.

Bradman
G. Chappell
Miller
Warne
Lillee

maybe barry, but oj? come on m8...

Dude check out OJ's 1973 and especially his 1975 seasons. The guy actually has shit longevity compared to other all time greats RBs but his peak is insane.

Šuker
Prosinečki
Modrić
Eduardo (before the injury)
Boban

>Deyna
>Lato
>Boniek
>Lewy
>Lubański

>my personal favorite
K U B A
U
B
A

Only player worth mentioning

Also happens to be the the true UK GOAT

there's a lot of pacey black players but not a lot of end product there

it's a question of play style. oj ran away from defenders, payton ran through them. for 178 consecutive games.

Eusebio
Cristiano Ronaldo
Luis Figo
Fernando Peyroteo
Vitor Baia

>Eduardo
>No Srna

>you chose Sneijder instead of Ruud van Nisterlooy

These two lists are just insane (in a good way)

> no Messi
What the fuck?

...

Cahill
Viduka
Schwarzer
Kewell
Aloisi

Cuauhtemoc u fuk!

My list:
Hugo Sanchez
Rafa Marquez
Andres Guardado
Jorge Campos
Cuauhtemoc Blanco

he'd have to win a world cup to show up there.
even then, half of the country despises neymar for being a diving piece of shit, he pulled it against everyone's teams here for years.

Vieri, Cannavaro and Nesta
If Vieri was fit for Euro00 >we would have walked the tournament

You have to go back

quints of truth

Shilton
Moore
Lampard
Gascoigne
Charlton

>Vieri
Yeah he was a beast. Too bad has was wasted on Inter. Not the biggest Inter fan too be honest.

And I always admired Cannavaro even if he was manlet the dude was strong in the tackle and in the air.

Marquez
Sanchez
Blanco
Vela

Benayoun
Berkovich
Eli Ohana
Avi Cohen
Roni Rozenthal

premier league watchers should know atleast 3 names here

(You)

benayoun was fantastic to watch in his prime

-1 Obdulio Varela
-2 Schiaffino
-3 Suarez
-4 Nasazzi
-5 Francescoli

forlan?

yea that skinny fucker was skillful as hell. he right now plays in israel but it's not what it used to be

Would Daniel Brailovsky fit in? I know he's argentine but he played for Israel. He was goat in Mexico.

lmao I actually never heard of him

-6 Mazurkiewicz
-7 Andrade
then you have the likes of Ruben Sosa, Aguilera, Morena, Bengoechea, Recoba, Paolo Montero, De Leon, Cubilla, Gighia, Godin, Ruben Paz and FORLAN (and some other players)

Hugo Sanchez
Rafa Marquez
Cuahtemoc Blanco
Jorge Campos (I personally think Prime Ochoa is the best mexican keeper ever)
Luis Hernandez

why don't you rate him?

because is very difficult after the rated ones.If its for titles won Gigghia would be better or even Maspoli. If its for "better" players he would be over those two but under Sosa, Cubilla, Morena, Recoba, Montero, Godin, etc.

Valderrama
James
Asprilla
Ortiz
Rincon or Falcao in his prime

>Sir Donald Bradman
>Ricky Ponting
>Alan Border
>Shane Warne
>Dennis Lillee

>sanchez
>marquez
both were shit for the NT. Marquez practically got a red card at every important match that was lost. I'd rank Luis Hernandez higher than both as he was a big reason Brazil became Mexico's bitch

Salas>>>Zamorano
Fact.

McGrath over Border. Border was good, but Ponting and Bradman were much better. No point even mentioning other batsmen once those two are thrown in.

REAL MADRID >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river

You are really obsessed with reddit.

Donovan (for his talent and clutchness in the world cups)

Dempsey (was top class in the premier league and even old Dempsey still Goat'd it up in the recent Copa America)

Beasley (underrated as hell but was a great player in his prime when he was at Einhoven and one of the few Americans to play in the CL)

Friedel (top class with Spurs for his career and the best gk we've had. Much better than le 16 wc saves reddit bald man Howard)

5th is up for debate. Pulisic will automatically be 5th if he has at least 2 good tournaments and goes far with Dortmund.

Ryan Giggs was an English twat that wouldn't play for Wales unless it suited him.

>north belgians

>Spurs

I meant Rovers. Always confuse those 2.

*tips harder*

bump

>No Rijkjaard
>Sneijder
Tips

>I don't rate Torosidis

Noone rates the modern era players because of a bad qualifying campaign which Ranieri fcked up. Everyone uses he fact that he won the BPL last year as an excuse, but the guy fielded 30+ different players in 6 matches, and called 56. How can you expect chemistry between these people who dont even train together all year?

The guy just doesnt cut it for a NT, im not bashing his coaching methods(although im not a fan of them either).

>I rate Xavi

>>Casillas
>In his prime he was the best keeper in the world
kek. In his prime he was closer to Buffon, Kahn and the likes.

Nah he's Catalan not Spanish

>LCIM
>LCIM
>LCIM
>LCIM
>LCIM

Keane
Keane
Given
Brady
Duff

Club: Del Piero
NT: Baggio

youtube.com/watch?v=n1V2Poi0u4I

>>I rate Xavi
> I dont rate best CM in history. That is too main stream

>In his prime he was closer to Buffon, Kahn and the likes.
Nah m8. Prime Casillas>Prime Kahn/Buffon. His prime was just way shorter

0
World
Cups

Thought I'd restrict myself to the south so I wouldn't come up with an obvious, contributing nothing Cruyff van Basten, v Nistelrooij, robben list like you just did.

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>, v Nistelrooij
>Over Gullit,Davids,Seedorf or Rijkaard

Incorrect.

>Pele

According to Guardiola Baggio is the best player he's ever played with, but I guess he's a redditor aswell

>group that could work well together

The essence of football

Bassie
Adriaan
Ryan Babel
Cillessen
Leroy Fer

Dalglish
Law
Jinky
Baxter
McGrain

Something shit happened to Scottish football and no one born since about 1970 makes the top 100.

judging by everything we know about him, yes.

>George Best
>
>
>Pat Jennings
>David Healy

Pelé
Didi
Garrincha
Ronaldo
Romário

Charlie Adam was born in '85 m8

>David Healy
>... also shares the record for the highest scoring tally during a UEFA European Championship qualifying campaign of 13 goals, shared with Robert Lewandowski.
Neat

Pelé
Garrincha
Zico
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho because I prefer memes instead of more solid players like Romario

Raúl, Xavi, Puyol and Casillas (no particular order). Can't pick a fifth one.

>Incorrect
Tips

>Guardiola
>Not a redditor
Is there a bigger nu male passive-agressive fedora tipper in the world?

>Iniesta
>Villa
>Butragueño
>Hierro
>Xabi Alonso
>Guardiola
>Torres (not memeing)

Charlton
Moore
Best
Dalglish
John Charles

Totti played so well that game, iwonder if he's pissed at del piero

Elias Figueroa
Marcelo Salas
Ivan Zamorano
Roberto Rojas
Arturo Vidal

Casillas is Dida/Julio Cesar tier, don't you ever dare to compare him to the likes of Kahn and Buffon

>Kahn and Buffon
>Tips
The loser of Buffon has nothing on prime Casillas other than defending corners.

United Kingdom isn't a country, try again

n-no based Jefferson Farfan?

sure thing manolo

>4 CL
Vs
>0 CL
>1 WC and 2 Euros
Vs
>1 WC
Buffon is a loser compared to Casillas. Onñy fedora tippers like (You) think that he is the undisputed GOAT when there has been tone of keepers that have played at a similar or higher level

thanks for the chuckle pal

>Spain
Vs
>Italy

Its a team sport you dim nonce.

I didnt know that Real Madrid was Spain as well. Also Italy's NT was great during Buffon's run. Buffon managed to lose 2 CL finals and an Euro with a great team. He is a loser that will be remembered as the not balding Diego López

my favourite will always be the one for vieri's vfirst goal against ecuador
youtube.com/watch?v=ZhbjVmb00tg
technically it's nothing special, many players can do that, but the vision of play necessary to pull it off, to know that vieri is coming from a distance and know where exactly to put the ball for him is inredible.
None of the other players had noticed it, evne those who had a better visual on the rest of the field than totti.

Beckenbauer
Matthäus
Kahn
Walter
Müller (Gerd Müller, not the current one)

while Casillas will be remembered as a tanned Nelson Dida

In no particular order:

>Paul Gascoigne
>Jimmy Greaves
>Bobby Moore
>Bobby Charlton
>Frank Lampard

I won't include keepers because I won't pretend that there were keepers who's skill were as good as the skills of the five above.

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>no Shilton
>no Banks

he's fat now, i envy him for tapping this ass
he was based when he was playing for Catania and Fiorentina, he cheated on his wife and then his level started to declining
Now Betis wants to get rid off him, sad.

my bad, i forgot him

almost a similar case to Vargas
absolute GOAT in PSV, pretty good in >Schalke
Juventus was interested in him, he didnt want to go
are you a >Schalke fan?
That said Farfan is/was the best player after Pizarro, Farfan can party all night and still delivering a good game and even score
After his knee injury hasnt been the same for him, sad.

Schiaffino and Rocha you fucking illiterate