ITT post the best (in your opinion) 5 players of all time of your country, and tell why when it's not obvious
For France >Michel Platini >Zinedine Zidane >Raymond Kopa >Jean-Pierre Papin Best striker in Europe if not the world in early '90s, Ballon d'Or winner. Didn't have chance though (changed clubs at the wrong time, born too late for Platini, born too early for Zidane) >Didier Deschamps Transformed good teams into winning teams. Won pretty much everything in every country he played.
>Jean-Pierre Papin >Best striker in Europe if not the world in early '90s, Ballon d'Or winner. Didn't have chance though (changed clubs at the wrong time, born too late for Platini, born too early for Zidane) He was shit.You just picked him because he won a ballon d'or
Liam Johnson
No Lato?
Logan Morales
>Xavi Probably the best CM in history >Iniesta One of the greatest midfielders of all time.Clutch as fuck >Casillas In his prime he was the best keeper in the world >Raúl In his peak years he could score anything.Even a watered version of himself(2004 onwards) he showed a very high level >Butragueño One of the most skilled players I have ever seen.He had very bad luck in the CL and in the WC
Lucas Ramirez
Debated between him and Tomaszewski, I picked Tomaszewski because Lato is a retard who almost ruined our entire FA recently.
Brody Powell
>He was shit
Brody Lewis
Moore Charlton Matthews Lineker Gascoigne
David Richardson
>Maradona >Messi >Di Stefano >Zanetti (My favorite player: sums up everything a footballer should be) >Mmmh... Batistuta? Redondo? Kempes?
Dominic Kelly
Éder
Liam Nelson
Zagorakis Nikopolidis Karagounis That's it. Maybe Dellas and Papastathopoulos if I had to pick. We never had good players, we either had a group that could work well together and hide its weaknesses or we were shit.
Dominic Wood
>Xavi >Probably the best CM in history
>Jean-Pierre Papin >He was shit
Not you again
Justin Anderson
Buffon F. Baresi Scirea R. Baggio Meazza
Brayden Bell
>He was shit Yes.He was a worse version of Inzaghi.Not even memeing.Even Griezmann should be higher than him
Daniel Powell
>Probably the best CM in history This is objective though.You can try to debate it though.You will just be proven wrong
Isaac Thomas
Serena Williams is the best athlete of all time
Mason Cruz
t. armchair expert
Leo Barnes
Suarez Francescoli Recoba Godin Some dinosaur 20s-50s
Christian Reyes
>Literally who's
Why is Englel so shit at sports?
Matthew Stewart
Nasazzi
Camden Torres
Give your 5 GOATs, so we can compare them to England's
>comparing Papin to Inzaghi
Austin Martinez
Forlan >>>>>>>>> Recoba
Juan Miller
Really he just won the ballon d'or due the obvious french vias.He wasn't very gifted technically and he was just good at tap ins and heading.He was like a watered version of Raúl or Inzaghi.France has produced way better players than Papin.Henry or Viera come to mind
Jaxson Phillips
>Papin to Inzaghi Papin was worse
William Stewart
Beckenbauer Gerd Müller Fritz Walter Lahm Matthäus
Landon Lopez
Bob Lenarduzzi Carl Valentine Paul Stalteri Paul Peschisolido Alex Bunbury
Hunter Carter
Seeler and Schuster over the Müllers
Parker Miller
I was born after the 60.
Parker Ortiz
Europe is shook
Logan Hernandez
>he wasn't good at these things, he was good at these other things >therefore he was shit
By your logic Xavi was shit because all he could do was pass it sideways
David Turner
well, technically I rate Recoba above Forlan but blondie won a few titles
Noah Thomas
Pulisic Donovan Howard Dempsey Lalas
Luke Hernandez
>R. Baggio >Over Del Piero Simply false.Del Piero was a none loser and more stable version of Baggio
Kayden Davis
If we are going back as far as th 50s Fritz Walter should have a spot as well. Maybe over Heynckes.
Matthew Mitchell
Moore Charlton Scholes Rooney Dele Alli
Owen Reed
>By your logic Xavi was shit because all he could do was pass it sideways This is just a meme.He started the play from way behind and he still managed to create a shit tone of chances per game.The only player that has created more chances in the WC than Xavi was Cruyff,and he played in a way more advanced position than Xavi.
Isaiah Williams
Del Piero is the biggest choker in our NT history, at leat learn your facts before you talk shit
Blake Hill
>All the good Brittish players are not english How can england be so bad at football?
Ian Baker
>Del Piero is the biggest choker in our NT history Del Piero in 1 year won more titles than Baggio in all his career (not even memeing).Baggio was a roaster cancer that just chocked in big matches.There was a reason that Juve chose Del Piero over the fedora overlord
Andrew King
Jordan Chamberlain Lebron Russell Bird
I know a lot of people don't put Lebron in their top 5, but imo he entered that category last season. The main argument against him being elite was that he wasn't clutch, and that died with the Cleveland title.
Dylan Wilson
I hope you are trolling, no one seriously believes Del Piero was better than Baggio And yes, Del Piero was a huge choker, deal with it
Chase Gomez
>no one seriously believes Del Piero was better than Baggio Juve did.And they started winning titles after le reddit ponytail man left
Lincoln Morgan
No they didn't, Baggio only left because he wasn't in good terms with Lippi. They still hate each other to this day
Ian Myers
hahahahahahahaha
Cooper Butler
>No they didn't >Le reddit man leaves >Juve wins a CL >Del Piero totally overshines him and become one of the best players in the world >Baggio ends up with a secundary role at Inter overshined by Ronaldo >Ends up playing in meme teams for the rest of his career Redditman was a loser and Del Piero has won in 1 year more than Baggio in all his career
Wyatt Clark
Or Andrade or Varela but Schiaffino is a bit more recent
Talent wise no way he compares. Recoba was awesome.
Camden Thomas
Since you seem to have an irrational hate towards Baggio, forget about him Del Piero wasn't even better than Totti, why would I put him in the top 5?
Justin Powell
Baggio was far better for Italy than Del Piero was.
You're really showing yourself up today with your fedorad opinions.
Eli Fisher
>Del Piero wasn't even better than Totti, why would I put him in the top 5? Yes he was >Baggio was far better for Italy Maybe at choking in finals.Overall his career is nothing compared to Del Piero's.Than just in 1995 accomplished more than the reddit man in all his career
Nolan Davis
Maldini Baggio Buffon Totti Pirlo Only players i saw playing regularly
Jason Perez
Del Piero was a huge chokers in our NT and people here are still mad about it, me included
Ethan Thomas
>Michael Laudrup No explanation required >Brian Laudrup His rep isn't as big as his brother, but Brian is arguably the best national team player Denmark ever saw >Peter Schmeichel NER >Morten Olsen 102 caps as libero for the great Danish '80s team. Captain and defensive rock for what was an otherwise very attscking team. >Jon Dahl Tomasson 52 goals in 112 games. Not a very technically skillful player, but his goals kept an otherwise mediocre team competitive with a good ratio of tournament qualifications. If I had to use my heart a bit more, Tomasson's spot would have gone to Elkjær or Alan Simonsen.
William Rivera
The only idiot to chose Del Piero over Baggio and Totti was Cesare Maldini, aka the worst manager in our NT history Baggio carried Italy to a WC final, Del Piero sucked dicks at WC98 and WC02, not to say he costed us Euro2000 There's a reason why Zoff, Trapattoni and Lippi always chose Totti over Del Piero, because Del Piero was the biggest choker in our NT history Every football expert agrees that Baggio is the best italian forward since Meazza and Piola, but I'msure the contrarian opinion of a loser on the internet is the corret one. Neck yourself
Justin Martin
Del Piero was the choker. Baggio was exquisite in 1990 and 1994 obviously excluding that penalty shootout. Literally the anti-Zidane 98.
Jonathan Lee
H E L V E G
Nathaniel Phillips
Matthäus Netzer Müller Heynckes Neuer aka GOAT
Zachary Edwards
What player. We've been blessed with some extremely solid, reliable guys in his position (RB for the nt). I wish the same was the case for the left side.
>>this guy calling loser anyone >lmao >Restores to adhominems >He is probably way poorer and a bigger loser than I am No.Messi is better than TSU.Still Del Piero pisses all over le reddit man You should all go back to your home board btw. reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/3l9bw9/how_good_was_roberto_baggio/
Jace Anderson
> I rate Recoba
Cameron Moore
Give us some more of your meme opinions, I can't wait to hear what else the rest of the world is wrong about.
Kevin Howard
Sterling Walcott Oxlade Chamberlain SWP Lennon
Grayson Jenkins
What about Gekas or Amanatidis?
Cooper Hernandez
You're the fedora tipper here buddy. The majority of the footballing world rates Baggio higher than Del Piero.
Camden Davis
Erik van der Leur Mark van Bommel Boudewijn Zenden Fernando Ricksen Kevin Hofland
They're from the south and knew what football was about
Colton Parker
Ok Italy, who has been your favorite national team player during those years?
Totti?
Carter Anderson
>The majority of reddit rates Baggio higher than Del Piero.
Samuel Harris
>meme opinions They are called the truth.My football IQ is just too high for you lot
Nicholas Lopez
Spencer Valencia Kaviedes Delgado Hurtado
Most of you probably know one name on that list. Two if you have ever checked the Copa Libertadores article on Wikipedia before.
Michael Adams
Andi Ogris Toni Polster Hans Krankl
Kevin Cruz
>Two if you have ever checked the Copa Libertadores article on Wikipedia before Or if you're Polish and old enough to remember World Cup 2006
Hunter Foster
>Spencer Alberto really old striker >Valencia Man U >Kaviedes >Delgado Both strikers who played in England though can't remember who for. Birmingham or something. Did one of these died? >Hurtado Ivan 'million caps' Hurtado. I only know him because I signed him on FM desu
Prohaska and Alaba?
Ryder Brown
Everyone here including multipe Italians agree, you are the only contrarian here
Tyler Miller
>Everyone here This is reddit 2.0 due le redditor invasion of people like (You)
Kayden Ross
Crystal Palace and Southampton, respectively. Both still alive: Kaviedes on rehab for the gorillionth time, Delgado became a politician and somehow got elected to out Congress despite barely being able to read a speech.
Thomas Gray
Amanatidis is a literally who. Gekas, while good compared to most of our other strikers, will always be underappreciated due to missing the penalty vs Costa Rica. And he'll always be behind Charisteas for obvious reasons.
Adam Sanchez
>everyone is reddit but me whatever makes you sleep at night hombre
Asher Taylor
>Implying that I care about your opinions
William Reed
Pizarro Cubillas Nolberto Solano José Velásquez Víctor Benítez
Nothing else
Colton Collins
Hugo sanchez Rafa marquez Claudio suarez Andres guardado
i dont know about the fifth
Christian Jenkins
Where townsend m8?
Grayson Garcia
Gareth Bale Ian Rush John Charles Ryan Giggs Neville Southall
Tyler Bell
> No Thuram
Nathan Harris
what about based Vargas (Juan Manuel)
Ayden Murphy
> Maybe at choking in Finals
lol you practically exposed yourself here. Del Piero's Euro 2000 final choke is worse than anything Higuain ever did.
Christian Myers
Cesar Cueto la
Kevin Rodriguez
Who the fuck rates this piece of shit ?
Blake Jenkins
Elias Figueroa Arturo Vidal Claudio Bravo Ivan Zamorano Marcelo Salas/Alexis Sanchez
Cameron Gray
1. Figueroa 2. Zamorano 3. Salas 4.Caszely 5.Vidal
Wyatt Young
>this flag, this post Donovan Beasley Lalas Freidel Howard
Josiah Butler
t. Can't put his dislike of Thuram the person aside and rate his ability as a player
Dylan Rodriguez
>fucking brits posting Welsh, Scottish and English players despite all being under one flag
>MUH WHATEVER
Nicholas Nelson
must be frustrating when other countries have history and culture
Ayden Wilson
Litti Hyypiä Eremenko Miklu Jolle
Sebastian Johnson
wew lad i'm from the south and i would not make such a meme list.
Not in order Cruyff Van Basten Gullit Robben Sneijder
Caleb Diaz
CR7 Eusébio Figo Paulo Futre Rui Costa
Jackson Diaz
>Del Piero wasn't even better than Totti, why would I put him in the top 5? totti is one of the top 5 or at least top 10 players worldwide. He just ont rated because he only played in a single shit team. One of the most underrated players of all time
Nolan Wilson
buffon/totti/baggio maldini vieri
I have no idea about those who played before so ài can't rate them
If Del Piero/Delvecchio didn't choke against France, he would be rated far higher.
Totti was god tier in that game. Its crazy how its so forgotten just cause he lost. He outplayed prime Zidane so fucking much.
Nolan Gomez
Pelé Ronaldo Romário Zico Garrincha
Jayden Mitchell
nah the credit would go to del piero. He was the most popular player for a long time who plaed in the most popular and successful team in italy.
Zachary Davis
Montana Rice Payton LT Woodson
Chase Bennett
Payton is so fucking overrated. lol at him being the GOAT RB.
Adam Ramirez
how close is neymar to kicking romario out of that list?
Jaxson Robinson
Mohammad Hamadko Abdelrazaq Al Hussain Ahmad Al Salih Zaher Midani Nadim Sabagh
BOOM
Robert Mitchell
>that flag >that post
Kevin Nelson
Not close. Brazillians love Romario cause he brought their first title after a huge drought and he also came back to play in Brazil when he was still in his prime.
Julian Johnson
Zidane's prime, regarding NT, was 2006 m8. Inb4 headbutt
John Smith
>Colombia 1. Faustino asprilla 2. Ivan Cordoba 3. Falcao 4. James 5. Carlos Valderrama
Nolan Powell
but he's 100% Jesus?
Caleb Torres
he was incredible in that game. He would press and take back the ball, hold possession and make italian pressing useless, distribute the ball and give assists, and then run to the box to shoot. He did alone what we did with pirlo + gattuso, plus partially totti. Total beast, he held the french side all by himself.But he couldn't hold his head.
Dude check out OJ's 1973 and especially his 1975 seasons. The guy actually has shit longevity compared to other all time greats RBs but his peak is insane.
Jack Ross
Šuker Prosinečki Modrić Eduardo (before the injury) Boban
Jordan Phillips
>Deyna >Lato >Boniek >Lewy >Lubański
>my personal favorite K U B A U B A
Aiden Nelson
Only player worth mentioning
Also happens to be the the true UK GOAT
Julian Jackson
there's a lot of pacey black players but not a lot of end product there
Aaron Edwards
it's a question of play style. oj ran away from defenders, payton ran through them. for 178 consecutive games.
Parker Ross
Eusebio Cristiano Ronaldo Luis Figo Fernando Peyroteo Vitor Baia
Jose Collins
>Eduardo >No Srna
Isaac Ortiz
>you chose Sneijder instead of Ruud van Nisterlooy
Tyler Perry
These two lists are just insane (in a good way)
Jacob Carter
> no Messi What the fuck?
Gavin Murphy
...
Elijah White
Cahill Viduka Schwarzer Kewell Aloisi
Joshua Walker
Cuauhtemoc u fuk!
My list: Hugo Sanchez Rafa Marquez Andres Guardado Jorge Campos Cuauhtemoc Blanco
Oliver Morgan
he'd have to win a world cup to show up there. even then, half of the country despises neymar for being a diving piece of shit, he pulled it against everyone's teams here for years.
Jace Carter
Vieri, Cannavaro and Nesta If Vieri was fit for Euro00 >we would have walked the tournament
Brandon Bell
You have to go back
Leo Murphy
quints of truth
Carter Collins
Shilton Moore Lampard Gascoigne Charlton
Carson Wilson
>Vieri Yeah he was a beast. Too bad has was wasted on Inter. Not the biggest Inter fan too be honest.
And I always admired Cannavaro even if he was manlet the dude was strong in the tackle and in the air.
Ryder Gray
Marquez Sanchez Blanco Vela
Landon Fisher
Benayoun Berkovich Eli Ohana Avi Cohen Roni Rozenthal
premier league watchers should know atleast 3 names here
yea that skinny fucker was skillful as hell. he right now plays in israel but it's not what it used to be
Cooper Anderson
Would Daniel Brailovsky fit in? I know he's argentine but he played for Israel. He was goat in Mexico.
Aaron Clark
lmao I actually never heard of him
Jaxson Morris
-6 Mazurkiewicz -7 Andrade then you have the likes of Ruben Sosa, Aguilera, Morena, Bengoechea, Recoba, Paolo Montero, De Leon, Cubilla, Gighia, Godin, Ruben Paz and FORLAN (and some other players)
Chase Miller
Hugo Sanchez Rafa Marquez Cuahtemoc Blanco Jorge Campos (I personally think Prime Ochoa is the best mexican keeper ever) Luis Hernandez
Jayden Powell
why don't you rate him?
Austin Garcia
because is very difficult after the rated ones.If its for titles won Gigghia would be better or even Maspoli. If its for "better" players he would be over those two but under Sosa, Cubilla, Morena, Recoba, Montero, Godin, etc.
Andrew Foster
Valderrama James Asprilla Ortiz Rincon or Falcao in his prime
>sanchez >marquez both were shit for the NT. Marquez practically got a red card at every important match that was lost. I'd rank Luis Hernandez higher than both as he was a big reason Brazil became Mexico's bitch
Isaac Cooper
Salas>>>Zamorano Fact.
Easton Walker
McGrath over Border. Border was good, but Ponting and Bradman were much better. No point even mentioning other batsmen once those two are thrown in.
Hudson Taylor
REAL MADRID >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river
Aaron Adams
You are really obsessed with reddit.
Nolan Walker
Donovan (for his talent and clutchness in the world cups)
Dempsey (was top class in the premier league and even old Dempsey still Goat'd it up in the recent Copa America)
Beasley (underrated as hell but was a great player in his prime when he was at Einhoven and one of the few Americans to play in the CL)
Friedel (top class with Spurs for his career and the best gk we've had. Much better than le 16 wc saves reddit bald man Howard)
5th is up for debate. Pulisic will automatically be 5th if he has at least 2 good tournaments and goes far with Dortmund.
Ayden Walker
Ryan Giggs was an English twat that wouldn't play for Wales unless it suited him.
Joshua Collins
>north belgians
Mason James
>Spurs
I meant Rovers. Always confuse those 2.
Evan Thomas
*tips harder*
Easton Lee
bump
Kayden Johnson
>No Rijkjaard >Sneijder Tips
Jason Robinson
>I don't rate Torosidis
Mason Sullivan
Noone rates the modern era players because of a bad qualifying campaign which Ranieri fcked up. Everyone uses he fact that he won the BPL last year as an excuse, but the guy fielded 30+ different players in 6 matches, and called 56. How can you expect chemistry between these people who dont even train together all year?
The guy just doesnt cut it for a NT, im not bashing his coaching methods(although im not a fan of them either).
Ryder Gomez
>I rate Xavi
William Bennett
>>Casillas >In his prime he was the best keeper in the world kek. In his prime he was closer to Buffon, Kahn and the likes.
>>I rate Xavi > I dont rate best CM in history. That is too main stream
William Edwards
>In his prime he was closer to Buffon, Kahn and the likes. Nah m8. Prime Casillas>Prime Kahn/Buffon. His prime was just way shorter
Michael Allen
0 World Cups
Oliver Robinson
Thought I'd restrict myself to the south so I wouldn't come up with an obvious, contributing nothing Cruyff van Basten, v Nistelrooij, robben list like you just did.
Angel Morales
...
Hudson Adams
>, v Nistelrooij >Over Gullit,Davids,Seedorf or Rijkaard
Gabriel White
Incorrect.
Ryder Johnson
>Pele
Julian Howard
According to Guardiola Baggio is the best player he's ever played with, but I guess he's a redditor aswell
Kayden Walker
>group that could work well together
The essence of football
Dylan Thomas
Bassie Adriaan Ryan Babel Cillessen Leroy Fer
Liam Campbell
Dalglish Law Jinky Baxter McGrain
Something shit happened to Scottish football and no one born since about 1970 makes the top 100.
Jordan Nelson
judging by everything we know about him, yes.
Ayden Morales
>George Best > > >Pat Jennings >David Healy
Zachary Edwards
Pelé Didi Garrincha Ronaldo Romário
Jace Robinson
Charlie Adam was born in '85 m8
Christian Rodriguez
>David Healy >... also shares the record for the highest scoring tally during a UEFA European Championship qualifying campaign of 13 goals, shared with Robert Lewandowski. Neat
Leo Gonzalez
Pelé Garrincha Zico Ronaldo Ronaldinho because I prefer memes instead of more solid players like Romario
Hudson Sullivan
Raúl, Xavi, Puyol and Casillas (no particular order). Can't pick a fifth one.
Colton Butler
>Incorrect Tips
Asher Jones
>Guardiola >Not a redditor Is there a bigger nu male passive-agressive fedora tipper in the world?
Carter Cox
>Iniesta >Villa >Butragueño >Hierro >Xabi Alonso >Guardiola >Torres (not memeing)
Nathan Jackson
Charlton Moore Best Dalglish John Charles
Isaiah Stewart
Totti played so well that game, iwonder if he's pissed at del piero
Dominic Robinson
Elias Figueroa Marcelo Salas Ivan Zamorano Roberto Rojas Arturo Vidal
Henry Garcia
Casillas is Dida/Julio Cesar tier, don't you ever dare to compare him to the likes of Kahn and Buffon
David King
>Kahn and Buffon >Tips The loser of Buffon has nothing on prime Casillas other than defending corners.
Easton Reyes
United Kingdom isn't a country, try again
Anthony Sanchez
n-no based Jefferson Farfan?
Austin Gomez
sure thing manolo
Tyler Long
>4 CL Vs >0 CL >1 WC and 2 Euros Vs >1 WC Buffon is a loser compared to Casillas. Onñy fedora tippers like (You) think that he is the undisputed GOAT when there has been tone of keepers that have played at a similar or higher level
Brayden Morris
thanks for the chuckle pal
Levi Collins
>Spain Vs >Italy
Its a team sport you dim nonce.
Angel Phillips
I didnt know that Real Madrid was Spain as well. Also Italy's NT was great during Buffon's run. Buffon managed to lose 2 CL finals and an Euro with a great team. He is a loser that will be remembered as the not balding Diego López
Daniel Sullivan
my favourite will always be the one for vieri's vfirst goal against ecuador youtube.com/watch?v=ZhbjVmb00tg technically it's nothing special, many players can do that, but the vision of play necessary to pull it off, to know that vieri is coming from a distance and know where exactly to put the ball for him is inredible. None of the other players had noticed it, evne those who had a better visual on the rest of the field than totti.
Nolan Campbell
Beckenbauer Matthäus Kahn Walter Müller (Gerd Müller, not the current one)
Xavier Jackson
while Casillas will be remembered as a tanned Nelson Dida
Ian Nelson
In no particular order:
>Paul Gascoigne >Jimmy Greaves >Bobby Moore >Bobby Charlton >Frank Lampard
I won't include keepers because I won't pretend that there were keepers who's skill were as good as the skills of the five above.
Oliver Edwards
...
Gabriel James
>no Shilton >no Banks
Michael Howard
he's fat now, i envy him for tapping this ass he was based when he was playing for Catania and Fiorentina, he cheated on his wife and then his level started to declining Now Betis wants to get rid off him, sad.
my bad, i forgot him
almost a similar case to Vargas absolute GOAT in PSV, pretty good in >Schalke Juventus was interested in him, he didnt want to go are you a >Schalke fan? That said Farfan is/was the best player after Pizarro, Farfan can party all night and still delivering a good game and even score After his knee injury hasnt been the same for him, sad.