Post teams with 16 road games a season

sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-aj-smith-chargers-20160914-story.html

Ok that year we only had 15 home games

usatoday.com/story/sports/2016/08/25/san-diego-chargers-stadium-fan-poll-support/89305858/

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As a patriots fan, I find it hilarious that there are """""Teams""""" out there, that don't get to watch their boys play in January and February every year

Ok but according to AJ Smith they're most likely going to stay in San Diego even if the vote fails

There hasn't been a source to state the contrary,

where are they getting this stuff polled? I haven't seen anything at all about a stadium poll but most people I've talked to, non-chargers fans included have said that as long as it doesn't come with a tax hike for the citizens it doesn't matter

How are they going to stay in San Diego when they'd just had a public funding vote turned down? Staying in San Diego long-term means getting lots of money for a new stadium, that's always been the case. The only difference is that now there's a time limit because the Chargers were given one year to make a decision whether or not to move to LA in 2017. If they turn it down in order to stay in San Diego, that means they'd need to know it will work out. With a vote to get funding for their stadium in San Diego failing THAT badly it means they won't get one to pass any time soon, so the only option left to them is to move to LA before the window expires.

They're just going to let the option falter and let the Raiders have a crack at going home, instead of coming to a city with no fucking fanbase.

Do you know how business works? Clearly you don't.

That would be like Five Guys burgers moving to California.

It's too costly to poll the entire san diego residency, and its been proven that as long as your sample size is large enough and it properly represents the makeup of the full set, then a smaller poll gives close to the same results anyways. There's even formulas for calculating the maximum possible margin of error because you are using a smaller sample size, and those error percentages are always published too.

>America's team

Despite your recent success, the Cowboys still have more fans and are more valuable and since life is a popularity contest, my team still wins

In Bundesliga, each team has 17 matches home and 17 matches away by season

You're the one that doesn't get how business works. With over 20 years of being the sole NFL team in southern california, the market presence of any other team has dwindled compared to what it could have been. Yes, San Diego is not LA, and that is precisely the point. Spanos knows that having the Rams be in LA does NOT mean that LA has 2 teams, it means LA has one and SD has one. This means that in the future, the market share of the chargers within LA will continue to dwindle, and the Rams presence in SD will rise simply by proximity and because LA is that much larger.

The best option for Spanos would have been for the Rams to remain in St. Louis, but they didn't so now that's forced his hand. He either has to move to LA and play little brother in the LA market while holding onto what's left of the SD market as long as he can, or stay in SD and duke it out. The cost effectiveness of moving to LA is much better since he wouldn't need to put up all that out of pocket money to fund and approve a stadium project there, Kroenke already took care of that.

That means that staying in SD would require a stadium plan that is extremely favorable to him financially, by having public funding be large enough to both be cheaper than moving to LA AND offset the potential market share increase he could have by going there. Yeah, he's using the LA move as leverage to gouge the city, which is why they're trying to get the money through hotel taxes rather than a tax that affects residents.

That's because at the core of the issue this is a business move for him though. He doesn't care about San Diego all that much, so if the city will bend over backwards to keep his team (not the city's team) then he's willing to stay, otherwise LA is more lucrative and less costly even if he has to share the market.

The Chargers will have to fork up 550m to move to LA though, not saying that's a deal breaker to them, but definitely a factor to consider.

Half or even less than half of LA is still worth more to him than all of SD, and the plan for the new SD stadium would have him fork up even more at 650m anyways. Going to LA would be cheaper and get him more revenue, but by voting yes on prop C then SD can keep him there anyways. That vote looks like it's going to tank badly, so people should really reconsider it because they won't get a second chance that's more favorable than this one.

but that's not true. The NFL is putting up 550m or 450m iirc, the city would fork 1.1b from hotel taxes and municipal bonds. that leaves 150m or 250m for the Chargers to hit the 1.8b target

That hasn't been decided exactly yet, because the vote in november only decides how much the public will be able to provide. The chargers then have to take that with them to the owners' meeting in january to finalize their proposal, which could change the proposed split by a lot considering how all the other factors look. The NFL was willing to commit a lot more last january because they were operating under a few assumptions which now are not the case under the terms of how the plan has changed. For example the stadium-convention center would be managed by an authority that the chargers are banned from being a part of or having a say, something that the league is pissed about and has in the past withdrawn the amount of share that the league puts forward to such plans. So even if it goes through, Spanos is looking to pay close to 400m of that 650m if not more, which is a bigger cost to him than paying 550m to go to LA considering that he's looking at a potential +130% increase in revenue over 5 to 10 years by moving. The terms he struck out with Kroenke in order to move into that stadium when it's built are also relatively favorable to Spanos, so by all accounts the smart business move would be to move.

and you also have to consider LA has much more going for it in terms of sports than SD. Spanos would be jumping into a pond with a lot of big fish. He'd not only have to compete with the Rams but also the Dodgers, Angels, 2 MLS teams, Kings, Ducks, Clippers, and Lakers. You can't just assume that the second the Chargers step into LA they'll immediately be the hot new thing in town when there's already a lot of heavily beloved franchises in LA that he'll be directly competing with for views and ticket sales. Let's also not forget that LA also has beaches and fucking Disneyland. Remember that LA has lost 2 NFL teams and San Diego has managed to keep theirs, ignoring the Clippers and Rockets being lost of course. There's no guarantee that anybody in LA would even notice or care if the Chargers came, that's an extremely volatile market for a football team and would be a big gamble rather than taking the safe bet of just holding on to San Diego and trying to re-poll the stadium for mission valley or something and try to make the price tag for it a little lower.

damn lmao

>Five Guys burgers moving to California.
There are a few already here in San Diego and they are just doing fine thanks.

Eww you like Five Guys?

Shit is dry as fuck

not that guy but it sounds like the la move is a sure thing, and the deal to stay is just a maybe. guarantees are worth a lot more and you cant put a price tag on them.

It ain't so bad, yeah I get that it's greasy as fuck. I've been to 3 Five Guys in San Diego. Two are on Navy bases and one happens to be available at some strip mall I was driving by not too long ago.

As for the Chargers and Prop C, yes Prop C will not pass simply because San Diegans don't want new taxes, it hurts union construction workers, and the issue of losing Comic Con which brings in more tourism revenue to the city than a fucking Owl. I've already decided to vote NO on C, because the city can survive without a NFL franchise.

There are other cities willing to take in the Chargers if they fail to stay here or move to LA. Take Portland, Salt Lake City, and St. Louis, I'm sure they will do everything to bring the Chargers to their city and treat them better.

>comic-con is unironically more important to san diego than the chargers
YOU CAN NOT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

Comic-con won't leave if the Chargers get a new stadium downtown, this is a fact. Nobody in the fucking city thinks they will either. This is also a fact. If Comic-con can get an expansion to the CC downtown like they already are, plus another with the stadium and STILL manage to complain about it, they and all their neckbeard faggot fuck attenders can fuck off to Anaheim.

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>Comic-con won't leave if the Chargers get a new stadium downtown, this is a fact.
It has been publicly stated that Comic Con opposes any downtown stadium
>Comic-Con has been very clear — it does not support an annex several blocks away from the Convention Center — but that is what Mr. Spanos is asking voters to approve this November. He attached the annex to his stadium plan to try and build support for the stadium, but the annex does not give Comic-Con and other large conventions what they want: an on-site expansion of the existing Convention Center.
sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-utbg-stadium-chargers-opposition-2016aug25-htmlstory.html
>If Comic-con can get an expansion to the CC downtown like they already are
This has been going on for years and still no sign of when the expansion will start

they still wont do a fucking thing

Everyone on the mighty1090 is convinced the Chargers aren't moving especially with the Raiders moving to Vegas, guaranteed

Listen to this

mighty1090.com/episode/are-the-chargers-trying-to-scare-kroenke/

John Gennaro is spot on usually

What the raiders do doesn't affect the chargers plans, it's the other way around. If the chargers go to LA, then the raiders can't. The raiders can only go to LA if the chargers don't, but it's also possible for neither one to move to LA and the raiders go to vegas regardless. Doesn't look like that will happen though.

That's what you think. Even though the organizers are from San Diego themselves, they are really thinking for the long term. If the city does not want to budge in expanding the current convention center, they will leave after 2018. They already have their secondary convention in the next convention centers in the region in LA and Anaheim. LA for sure won't be a host to Comic Con as it showed with hosting Wondercon this year. Anaheim has the resources to pull it off as they have the largest Convention Center, an arena to host large events next door, and an abundance of hotels all over the place. The problem is the traffic between Comic Con attendees and Disneyland attendees.

>listen
nah. maybe if it was written out so I could read it instead, I don't like listening to stuff or watching videos on websites when I can just skim through an article in less time and effort.

Sounds like he's ranting desu

What's even the point of moving the Chargers?

the current stadium is embarassingly old and decrepit
LA is getting a shiny new stadium that can host owls

I can take a flight faster to Chicago than get to LA on a Sunday

Think about that for a second. No one in SD will EVER EVER support an LA team. Culturally we are nothing alike

>Culturally we are nothing alike
Yeah you do, you have Spics that vote Democrat in both cities.

Whatever helps you sleep at night pal. And thanks for upholding stereotypes as well.

savage banter

How does that even happen?

>tfw live in san diego

i just worry about the team. all these shitposts are great

Lack of interest by home fans, inability to afford exorbitant ticket prices, and trading/selling tickets to away team fans.

Mostly lack of interest and nobody wants to pay $300 for nosebleed seats. Remember that going into 2014 a lot of analysts were predicting 8-8 or a losing season and nobody really cared. The 2014 hype train didn't really get rolling until after the Cowboys whipped the Saints.