How much would you pay for Paul Pogba?

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Based on Juventus stats for Pogba (15/16):

Tackles: 2.2
Interceptions: 1.3
Chances: 1.8

Overall: 5.3

So you could reasonably add £10m to that value. I would say that Man U paid around double value.

>not counting mug sales and Twitter hashtags
Are you an ABU?!

Now factor in the 60 million dabbing fee and they didn't overpay at all

This. Juve rekt ManU wallett and ain't even sorry

What about dribbles? I'm sure Pogba leads that stat for those midfielders.

Serie A stats don't translate to BPL well though, plus he played with by far the best teammates in the league. £30-35m seems like a fair price for him

Friendly reminder that Belotti is the best striker in the world right now

Since when are dribbles a key stat for central midfielders? The number isn't available there anyway. If we're talking about successful take-ons, he's second worst of the bunch.

Is there a stat for % of balls lost in the feet?

Also pass completed then lost by the receiver? (Indicates poor passing)

I've got no idea why I hate him so much, honestly no idea... but I fucking HATE the guy.

>Also pass completed then lost by the receiver
Yeah, it's called successful passes and he's second worst kek
>% of balls lost
Can't find this, but pretty sure he'd lead ball losses

I guess the bigger the transfer amount the bigger the bung I would pocket so I would pay a lot, like the highest transfer in history

>there are mentally ill ABLs who don't rate Hendo la

Dribbles aren't important now? Even though it disrupts the other team's defense?

Oh, it's because it makes Pogba look better. Oh well, this comparison is stupid seeing as it is made up of different types of midfielders anyways.

Shit, gave Pogba the EL stat there

Certainly not compared to elemental CM stats, like passing, tackling and intercepting. Dribbling is what counts mostly on the wings and final third. And as I said, his take-ons (what matters more) are second worst.
>different types of midfielders
They all have similiar roles, except for Kante who is a dedicated CDM in front of CBs. Pogba, who is supposed to be all-around central midfielder, is ironically worst overall of the bunch.

absolutely based

You can keep believing that. No they aren't the same type of midfielders btw.

Also stats for a midfielder is so hard to judge as they are dependent on so many things. For example, interceptions and tackles. Apart from a player being good at that and actually having that role, it's still dependent on the system.

For example, wouldn't a team that presses a lot like Pep's team or Klopp's team have more interceptions and tackles compared to a defensive system that drops off more? Or how about passing completion? That's dependent on how safe you pass , how many touches you get, or how much space you have to work with it.

how much is that in bananas?

Because he is the future Ballon D'Or winner.

Would rather just sign Nuri Sahin, give him a good tan then teach him to dab.

I chose comparable midfielders in comparable roles. If I wanted to make fun of Pogba's offensive contribution I'd put De Bruyne there.
>Also stats for a midfielder is so hard to judge
>s-stats don't matter because he influences the game so much la
There are five teams and five different tactics represented there. It's a very peculiar system that makes Pogba the worst passer and defender at the same time then.

Are there detailled stats about passing? Like completed pass in own side, opp side, backwards/side pass, if receiver lost it after 2 seconds (indicates difficult or dangerous pass), etc

>120mil vs 7,5mil

It's not that detailed, but backwards and forward passes are there. See for yourself squawka.com/comparison-matrix

Why is fernandinho so based lads?

No you did not choose comparable roles. On what earth does Kante do the same job as Pogba? Or Dele Alli?

Kante maintains far better passing accuracy (even with longer range) while contributing much more to defence, Dele Alli creates more chances and still tackles better than Pogba. Henderson and Fernandinho are better at basically everything. Those take-ons you put there are total number, his % is only 50%. And none of them lost more balls overall than Pogba.

The more dribbles you try, the harder it is to fluke your succession rate in dribbling.

Take on pct is nearly 70% for Pogba, not 50% (which would still be alright).

>convienently leaving out any passing or defensive contribution for #6
>0 assists, 1 shitty goal and 1.4 chances created per match as his offensive resume
>pointless long shots which only resulted in possession losses added to the chart
>cost about as much as the other 4 players combined while only being better at dribbling
A bargain, I say

Why would I put those stats in if you already posted them?

The only faggot that was scared of posting more stats was you.

i think the take-home is the comprehensive nature in which pogba lags numerous potential peers in multiple aspects of the game. And if you are going to attribute it wholly to differences in system, then this info suggests theres a strong chance you could find 3-5 players for the same price, implement a system in which they are all putting up better stats, and seriously dilute your injury risk.

Because the stats in OP determine the quality of central midfielder. He's at best mediocre at everything that makes a good box-to-box player, what exactly is the dribbling stat meant to prove? Or his failed long shots? So far he's without a doubt the biggest transfer scam of all times

>theres a strong chance you could find 3-5 players for the same price, implement a system in which they are all putting up better stats, and seriously dilute your injury risk
This 100%. For Pogba's price, they could have got a brand new midfield of three specialists - Pjanic (playmaker), Kante (tackler) and Krychowiak (holding mid). Or many others outside of recent transfer window.

I agree he's overvalued as shit but
>squawka

No they do not as those stats are highly dependent on context.

FFS, Cleverly used to get 90% passing completion because he used to pass sideways all the time and took few risks. Similarly, I expect City and Liverpool players to have more interceptions and tackles because they play a very effective pressing game.

You stupid nigger. What's funny is that these stats are only going to improve for Pogba if actually starts playing well more often.

>those stats are highly dependent on context
So Manure system forces him to be worse at all key aspects than those midfielders from other 4 teams?
>passing completion
Tied for worst one in the chart with shortest average pass, and this being without any significant end product (chances, assists)
>improve for Pogba if actually starts playing well more often
He's a nigger heavily relying on athleticism, what you see now is his peak.

>manure system
No, Pogba is naturally more of an attacking presence as you saw with the amount of dribbles he takes, the shots he takes, and the amount of forward passes he plays.

Team tactics do play a role though.

>tied for worst
Shortest average pass means nothing. Passing back to the goalkeeper counts as a long pass, yet it's the easiest pass to make. Similarly, passing it to the right winger ala Rooney is also easy, but it's a long pass. A longer pass doesn't always mean it's the riskier pass and thus more impressive.

You really do look at stats far too much in football.

You're such a faggot. Sucking Pogba's dick when he was at Juve, and now coming up with bullshit reasons to talk shit about him because you're buttdevestated.

Just say he hasn't been great for United and leave it at that. It has nothing to do with those stats you posted though.

>he hasn't been great for United
Kek, that's an understatement.
>for Juve
He played very well when carried by world class midfield his whole time in Italy, that much is true, but I can assure you every Juve fan choked with laughter when the transfer fee was announced. And his Manure performances would would finish their sides, if they had any left.

>carried
Sure
>choked with laughter
lmao

I can feel the anger.

>MUH LEGENDARY #10 SHIRT
sure thing

>I can feel the anger
Yeah, Juve got those shitters Pjanic and Higuain instead. I'm literally seething

people on Cred Forums all started browsing in 13-14 when liverpool where good so started hating them to be contrarian, then everyone even newer than that jumped aboard that bandwagon to fit in to board culture, so a lot of liverpool players are hated. on a henderson specific note it's because he cannot finish for shit and for all of last season his passing was awful when he was fit

Juve just keeps getting away with it.

it was well known that he was overpaid and overpriced and the reason man united accepted to pay that much is for his marketing appeal.
Any other team would have accepted to pay only half, and possibly less, than that.
Nobody considers him worht that much as a player, but united considers him worth that much as a player+marketing subject

Nowt if I can get Kante for 30

James Milner went for free and he's better than Pogba.

So less than $0.

aerial duels is impressive because he's a manlet.

he also performed the same during the end of last season when he started playing regularly. I think he'll be the big signing of next season.

Carrying the ball forward is a big aspect of the "box-to-box" midfielder's role

he has the higher rate of chances created among those players. The lower rate of successful passes could derive from the fact that he tries harder passes that create more chances when successful but have a higher chance to fail. And the lower average distance could be determined by the fact that as a box to box player he carries the ball forward and passes it when he's closer to the opponent box. Stats are very useful, but need to be seen in context.
And in any case man U has been pretty bad in general in those first games.

What website is that?

BEGGING for an answer.

it's in the thraed

ye i found it thanks