/who/ - Doctor Who General

The Curse of Fenric edition.

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You mean you can't think of anything which hardly proves it would be 'good story' does it?

No it didn't.

ok idiot

i mean i just thought it as an outline for a story like saying Jago and Litefoot meet the Cybermen. I'm not coming out with plots on the spot to satisfy whatever need you have for a story of "value"

>Hate to say it, but the casuals are bored with Daleks now.

It's no wonder when they are written so badly and get defeated so easily every time.

Do you think we're going to have a Cybermen story in the next season? They've never been absent for more than two years.

There's nothing that indicates Davros would have 100% died from the handmines. The thing is: he left him on his own in a very dangerous situation, a child on a battlefield, in the middle of a war. He couldn't live with that. That's all.

would that actually help? I don't think anybody was particularly hyped for Asylum of the Daleks despite the quiet retirement they had going on beforehand.

Oh boy that last season was finger licking good. It makes me sad thinking that we were robbed of another golden era and now McCoy is back to having shit stories in BF.

I honestly hope not. I hate their new designs and their stories have not being good in forever

The last appearance could have been any generic techno zonbie species.
The magic nano rain was so powerful it could have just made Daleks or spaceships for all the difference it would have made.

Likely, I'd say, or cameos at least.

Moff gave us Zygons cos he knew Tennant wanted to have a Zygon adventure. I wonder if, cos Moff is leaving now, he'll give Capaldi a Cyberman story featuring a Mondasian Tenth Planet Cyberman or two.

they should have explicitly stated that the landmines were the event that crippled him and led him to become as he is now.

But they weren't?

but they should have been to make 12 extra guilty

If Missy saved 'every human who ever lived' to the Nethersphere then that literally makes her God, the saviour of all humanity and guardian of the afterlife.
And then every human who ever lived was killed in that episode.

The plot was so badly told that there is no way of being sure what is meant to have happened.

If 'everyone ever' was saved then what was the purpose of the 3W cover story?

I don't think 'everyone ever' was saved, by the way, but I know some insist this is what happened.

And Davros didn't have openable eyes, til Moff retconned him to have.

Quick, you have 5 minutes to think of a fresh and original Dalek episode

A Dalek quits and becomes a janitor at Coal Hill.

WRITTEN BY GARETH ROBERTS

No because it would have defeated the entire purpose of the idea. If he knows it's what's crippled Davros, he has to let it happen so the whole mercy thing can't happen.

I don't think he ever stated he didn't have eyes.

An autistic Dalek becomes a private detective in Ancient Egypt and he has a Cyber converted monkey henchman called Cunto.

>I know some insist this is what happened.

well they did have a line which i don't quite remember where they attributed the human belief in an afterlife to her saving people in the nethersphere>

>74436697
>he has to let it happen

You fail to understand that the Doctor has not given a fuck about keeping a consistent time line in a long time. He has time and time again tried to fuck with events to get his way, they play that as a plot point once each season probably.

A Dalek civil war between Daleks who want to carry on Davros' legacy and the ones who want to follow their own plan gets the Doctor's attention and he decides to chime in when the war spreads to a nearby planet. The first part ends on the revelation that the civil war had been engineered by a dying Davros to lure the Doctor to some place, and Davros then flees with the TARDIS to the birth of the universe so he can place the Daleks as the very first life form in the universe so they can exterminate every other life form that starts appearing. The Doctor then tricks the Daleks into killing the Kaleds when they appear without them knowing who they are, creating a massive paradox, reading Davros' actions.

to keep it as liberal and a parallel to current event like DW likes to do it how about Old Daleks being angry and racists to the new daleks in skaro and so the Supreme Dalek makes a referendum to see if the majority Daleks agree and then force the new daleks out.

>a dying Davros

not possible, his mojo is back from all that sweet time lord regen juice

>reading
I meant erasing*

Well that part isn't really needed anyway.

>which i don't quite remember
Illustrating how woolly the whole thing was.perfectly

What, just like that brand new race of pure Daleks that were born and then, oh, erm, okay, nope, never really saw those again. If a writer wants Davros to be dying, that'll happen. Just say the spike of regeneration energy failed or backfired during all the TWF craziness, boom, back to a dying Davros.

>Davros then flees with the TARDIS to the birth of the universe so he can place the Daleks as the very first life form in the universe so they can exterminate every other life form that starts appearing
Now that's something Davros could do. Fuck he should HAVE tried this eons ago. It just makes sense.

that and the fact that it's been almost two years and i haven't re watched it

Then we can expect him to regrow an entire new body in the future? And be able to regenerate?

Which illustrates it is rubbish perfectly.

someone get Briggs on the phone

im guessing he lacks the metabolic pathways and other organs necessary for the process.

the power Daleks are probably the hardest a new concept has fallen on its face in NuWho so far.

How the fuck would they evolve in the first place, then?

Just not particularly interested in Daleks anymore.

Over 50+ years, everything possible, in various media, has been done with this particular villain. Time to let them go. Just my humble opinion.

A captured Dalek is used in a new TV reality show in the future where people have to survive in an enclosed area. The last one to stay alive wins, which brings out all the worst sides of humanity as they trap each other so the Dalek can kill them or won't help when the Dalek gets close. The Doctor is furious with this idea.

Pffft, like logic ever stopped Davros. He wanted to explode all of reality except for the Crucible. What was the next plan? To just play Monopoly with the Daleks for the rest of eternity?

>im guessing he lacks the metabolic pathways and other organs necessary for the process.
That is fine for your headcanon but it's only your headcanon and only made up to rationalise a shitty script which avoids giving any explanation of anything in enough detail.

He doesn't need the TARDIS, he and the Daleks are already capable of time travel in the Time War. He has probably already tried that and been thwarted by the time lords.

Remember when they were off-screen for literally like 6 or 7 years between Genesis and Destiny. Good times.

JNT had one good idea: one Dalek/Davros story per Doctor. We don't need one every sodding series.

Moff even said Into the Dalek only really happened to get a Dalek encounter in early for 12, cos he believes "the actor isn't really The Doctor til they've met the Daleks" which is shite. Davison didn't meet Daleks until right near the end of his era.

I'm not disagreeing but the show basically treats regeneration energy as "healing force" and only properly canalized by the time lords.

The title:
>Resolution of the Daleks or Extermination of the Daleks

We see what happens to the universe when the Daleks eventually become extinct. Davros is long dead, and a group of insane Daleks worship at his tomb, trying desperately to bring back the Dalek race, but creating abominations instead. The Doctor realises that the universe perhaps needs the Daleks, as without them, wars have been spanning centuries longer. In the end, the two last Daleks in existence develop a libido and try to fuck and malfunction and blow up, ending the Dalek race.

That is because RTD is an awful writer. That is possibly the worst TV Dalek plan ever. It makes no sense to destroy all possible realities then live alone in a bubble doing nothing for ever and ever.

I wrote that in 5 minutes but thanks guys.

Like I said, they wouldn't. The Doctor would trick them into killing the Kaleds which would be a massive paradox, nullifying Davros' actions and restoring the timeline.

We could just say he can't go back this far in time.

Only in recent years and by bad writers.

That's Davros!

>The Doctor would trick them into killing the Kaleds which would be a massive paradox, nullifying Davros' actions and restoring the timeline.
So after all the filming and expense - nothing happens, it's a reset.

No thanks.

Nah, it was pretty genius, actually. Cos in Journey's End, the whole point is that Davros now has the power to set himself up above the Gods, like he said in Genesis. In JE, he had that capsule he once spoke of. And in JE he was completely insane. So from that POV, it made sense.

The idea started as something literally GOAT but you had to go and meme around.

At the end of time and space, only three Daleks remain. Davros is long gone, the empire is extinct and they have no means to create new Daleks. They must ensure the survival of their kind into the next universe, but how?

How old are you?

I just love the image of a handful of Daleks insanely worshipping this crumbling tomb of Davros.

Like in every story ever?

>universe perhaps needs the Daleks, as without them, wars have been spanning centuries longer

i like this idea of a necessary evil, the super prolonged sontaran-rutan conflict might be a good example of the dalek effectiveness at war.

>that capsule he once spoke of

A theoretical capsule - which would make him ruler of the Universe by THREATENING everyone with it, not killing everyone.

>They must ensure the survival of their kind into the next universe, but how?

They wouldn't. Their efforts would span for thousands of years, resulting in them becoming highly frustrated towards one another. They would become insane and eventually kill each other.

Literally dialogue at the end of Genesis too, with the Doctor surmising that out of all the Daleks' actions, there must be some good come from it. People meet, factions are born, people come together as a result of the Daleks' hatred, so the Daleks just being alive can create some good.

>trying to rationalise Davros' actions, who is completely insane by the time of Journey's End

>trying to rationalise Davros' actions

>it's a fictional character who is either written well or by hacks who use insanity as an excuse for their half assed crap

Now come up with an original Cyberman story, and make them scary.

>They must ensure the survival of their kind into the next universe, but how?

they would probably end up all dying but at the end someone aka The Master would pick up some of their DNA and bring them back or they would have a genetically coded last stand where once the last of them dies it sends a signal across time and space directly to Davros himself and so he emergency time shifts to them and saves them. It would be like their own creation myth of the savior returning in their direst moment.

Well excuse me for being a fan of RTD's version of Davros. Didn't realise I wasn't allowed, or that it was objectively shit.

Well, now you have learned. You are forgiven.

Pretty good fan-created animated story, telling the origin story of the Paradigms whilst also crossing into Caan and Davros and RTD's era. It's a really nice timey wimey (good timey wimey, not a hack job) insert: youtube.com/watch?v=5MF4W-q768Q

A GOAT story would be the Planet of the Apes plot but applied to Daleks.

The last three Daleks in existence end up on a planet and find a new race that eerily sounds familiar and they can't bring themselves to exterminate. The Doctor lands there at the same moment and finds a shrine dedicated to two people, hailed as gods by the planet's people. The Doctor then finds out about the Daleks presence and warns everyone about them but is shocked to learn they aren't killing anyone. The Doctor befriends a few of the planet's inhabitants. However, one of the Daleks is obliterated by a savage tribe and further down the line, the Daleks realise the people of this planet are actually the next step in the Dalek evolution and they engineered them themselves in the past but in their own personal future. The Doctor learns this too and realises he befriended Daleks. The two remaining Daleks decide to exterminate the whole planet as they realise these people are not Daleks and impure and such a thought disgusts them. The Doctor tries to convince them not to do it, in vain.

Being totally honest here.

Enjoyed TMA/ TWF very much. Excellent script, good acting from the leads, production exceptional, entertaining TV etc.

But it's the Daleks yet fucking again. Same old same old etc. Jeez, could the BBC have promoted the show any worse?

>Planet of the Apes plot but applied to Daleks

The short story "We Are the Daleks" by Terry Nation could be considered very similar to aspects of Planet of the Apes.

Last of the Cybermen, alone on Earth, it has developed the ability to camouflage into the environment to silently attack its preys and capture them. You can only see it when you turn on and off the lights as there is a small glitter/shine that highlights the Cyberman for a few seconds, causing people to go "What? Is there something?", they get close, think they dreamed it, but the Cyberman becomes visible and jumps on the victim just in front of her, or moved behind her to jump scare her. Clara gets attacked and kidnapped. The Doctor sabes her and is about to blow up the crashed spaceship, where new Cybermen are being created. But it explodes. At the end, as everyone thinks everything is good, as the TARDIS dematerializes, the light goes on and off and, in the little street, we can see a small glitter/shine, moving away...

>But it's the Daleks yet fucking again
Who just remain motionless and get killed by slime.
Even though they can now fly.

No. That's simply wrong.
The virus is an analogy for the Daleks.

DAVROS: Evil? No. No, I will not accept that. They are conditioned simply to survive. They can survive only by becoming the dominant species. When all other life forms are suppressed, when the Daleks are the supreme rulers of the universe, then you will have peace. Wars will end. They are the power not of evil, but of good.
DOCTOR: Davros, if you had created a virus in your laboratory, something contagious and infectious that killed on contact, a virus that would destroy all other forms of life, would you allow its use?
DAVROS: It is an interesting conjecture.
DOCTOR: Would you do it?
DAVROS: The only living thing, a microscopic organism reigning supreme. A fascinating idea.

Just like the Daleks, it would reign supreme by killing everything else.

That was probably the dumbest thing.

But I bet that's how a Dalek escapes.

No that is not the intention of the scene at all. Davros would be supreme leader by threatening to use the virus.
Killing the entire universe and himself is fucking stupid and definitely not what this thought experiment is all about.

"To hold in my hand a capsule that contained such power. To know that life and death on such a scale was my choice."

"That power would set me up above the gods and through the Daleks I will have that power!"

>tfw you want to infosorb new Doctor Who media but can't be arsed with Classic Who as you REALLY don't have the time to watch it

Are the audios good? I mean I've never seen 5, 6 or 7's episodes. Should I bother or I won't feel like it's Doctor Who? I've seen the movie though, but To the Death is already not canon to me so I don't want to listen to audios that are building up to this.

>When all other life forms are suppressed, when the Daleks are the supreme rulers of the universe, then you will have peace.

Nice idea. Would definitely work, I think.

>hasnt seen every classic episode
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>Killing himself is stupid
I think you maybe missed a bit in the S4 finale cos the reality bomb wouldn't kill Davros and his Daleks. That's the point. The Crucible is cut off; the bomb would kill everything but them. They'd be left to just survive.

OK I am done with this now. You are either missing every point and switching goalposts accidentally or it's deliberate.

No, it's clearly presented as an analogy for the Daleks. Reread Davros' first and last lines in my post. Both the Daleks and the virus would bring 'peace' to the universe by killing everything that stands in their way.
It's even supported by the line you quoted:
>through the Daleks I will have that power
They're both means to the same end, universal 'peace' that amounts to the death/enslavement of all life forms and the dominion of one creature.
He doesn't want to "threaten" people with the virus. He finds the use of the virus and the extinction of everything else "a fascinating idea" in itself. All he wants is to be the one to unleash it.

> literally hasn't got a point so flails and "gives up" and says I'm the one who missed the point

feckin eeejit

The audios do feel like DW and are in some ways better but I don't know how much you'd enjoy them if you dont know even a little of 5, 6 or 7 before going in. And i dont think you'd be saving that much time because audios are 2 hours long each

piss off Banshee

> cant be arsed with classic who because too long
> ponders audios which are similar length

Bless your little heart.

Exactly. Sorry that the fucking idiot above me can't understand pretty basic stuff.

Davros wants to control everything. That's his modus operandi.
An imaginary virus he can threaten to unleash would give him absolute control.
Back in reality, he sees his Daleks as an achievable method of seizing control.

Tash'ouz. The planet where people usr emotions and feelings as language, currency, for everything. One day, a lone Dalek rained down upon the planet and turned it into a wasteland in a few months. Now, only a tenth of the population is alive and the Doctor must stop it before the Dalek completes his genocide. He helps the remaining scientists to build up an exo skeleton to help defend themselves against the Dalek. Except it's turned clever and uses the people's emotions to trap them into leaving the suit to help and that's where it kills them. The obvious next step would be removing emotions and paving the way for the very first Cyberman, who would destroy the Dalek and then slowly turn the remaining survivors into Cybermen.

>he's an obvious troll ignore him

I was OK with the sewers Daleks revolting. Liked that a lot.

You can do something else while listening to an audio you moron.

Rubbish.

A handful of humans survived Chernobyl underground, are disfigured and diseased hugely, and start building themselves life supports out of old ruins and metal and anything they can scavenge.

Modern day Tenth Planet Cybermen.

Fuck off.

Have you seen the original Planet of the Apes films for the first time recently?

You can do other things whilst watching the tv shows too. In fact tbqh I find the show requires less attention than the audios.

Rubbish.

> "Rubbish" repeatedly posted after every idea
> Can't even be arsed posting own idea

>Davros wants to control everything.
That isn't his main motivation. His main motivation is creating a being that can survive the war (by means of destroying everything else).
He doesn't program the Daleks to be his soldiers. He programs them to be the dominant lifeform. That's what kills him.

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE BIG FINISH 11TH DOCTOR AUDIOS

>He programs them to be the dominant lifeform.
Which he thinks he is the controller of.

Plot twist: Caro Skinner has the rights to the entire 11th Doctor era.

Way to miss the point.

The Doctor and Bill land on the exploration ship Odysseus, heading to a destination that never gets any closer. What exactly is going on?

Now repeating phrases back? Hmmm.

Reading that, I don't give a shit. Have they started the engines?

Fuck off you negative shite. You are what's killing /who/.

They have the ship in reverse gear.

Patrick Ness is quitting Twitter m8. This is his reason. I wonder what the -real- reason is ;)

Probably thewhippasnappa

Love the person who commented "your tweets are life desu"

what the fuck

He is angry because no one gives a fuck about his Buffy ripoff.

So what the hell did magician's apprentice and witch's familiar were even supposed to mean?

FUCK I NEED MORE DOCTOR WHO

I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL APRIL

THAT'S FUCKING LIGHT-YEARS AWAY

shame:

twitter.com/thewhippasnappa/status/777055787051053056

OK, now we can see it all very clearly.

What was /who/'s initial reaction to Morefat acknowledging the Doctor being half-human from the TV movie in Hell Bent?

ORFORD.

So was the Doctor thinking of Clara when he said "I'm gonna save my friend the only way I can" or did he mean Davros?

How can a single person be this fucking annoying?

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THEWHIPPASNAPPA SLAYED BY GIRLY LETTERS HIDING HER IDENTITY

THIS IS PRICELESS

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lmao at all the vertical shitposting

LMAO
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was already answered last thread

reminder this guy posts here

good. now he'll see P Ness' instagram post about leaving Twitter and hopefully realise it's partly cos of twats like him

Clara. He said that because teaching Davros mercy was the only way he could save Clara. He didn't give any fuck about Davros.

Also, the scene at the end is GOAT, with the Doctor and Davros leaving together hand in hand, but Davros is holding the screwdriver and the Doctor is holding the Dalek gun.

DEJA VU

Do you think he spread his legs for Fady and Greg?

Actually it's probably people having a go at him for his stance on Corbyn.

Deja poo

Turns out it's three.

Daleks murder Sarah Jane Smith.

The Doctor goes on a roaring rampage of revenge but the Daleks beat the shit out of the Doctor, then spare him because they know letting him live knowing he couldn't avenge Sarah is worse than killing him

The real reason: A Monster Calls has had some very good reviews (overall), the distributors have decided to make it a 'big event' over Christmas cinemas releases, instead of burying it earlier in Autumn.

Ness is now unsurprisingly off Twitter.

I don't get it.

How about turning Sarah Jane into a Dalek, who marries Davros, then has an affair with CyberBrig, and they have a hybrid CyberDalek child?

Or P Ness is just a dick.

A dick for leaving Twitter? He's not obliged to be on it.

No no, he's just a dick in general, and can't handle any sort of criticism on Twitter so runs away.

Don't worry, Twitter still has Gareth Roberts.

Oh right, Twitter 'criticism'.

I'm guessing he already senses people will shit on Class and he doesn't want to get shit flinged at him

Has Gareth slagged off PNess yet on Twitter yet?

Must have. He was desperate for another SJA type spin-off.

Yep, I actually suspect this is one of the reasons why Ness has left Twitter. He's been doing it rather vehemently an taking the piss out of the gay/trans aspect of Class.

Might have gotten advice from Moff too, I remember he quit shortly after S5/Sherlock premiere

TAKE ME TO CHURCH

twitter.com/WhoSFX/status/777198458419556353

An honest slut.

/who/ K9 & COMPANY: Is it canon?

Yes. because it had K-9.

Sarah has K9 in The Five Doctors and School Reunion, so yes.

Do you not think that's a bit fucking insensitive? She's dead, have some respect.

Oh no! I hope she didn't see that post.

stupid nerd

Oh right. Sorry. Formerly an honest slut. Excuse me.

Oh I see, it's the "we're Cred Forums and we're so edgy" meme

Got me good, guys!

No it's just the Managra/book club meme, silly goose.

Says the one posting on Cred Forums idiot nerd

It's a meme from when /who/ read Managra last year - Lord Byron calls her that in one of the early chapters.

This isn't surprising at all.

You can spot the one being 100% literal here. Everyone else is taking the piss except him.

Is it me?

I know you think these attempts to single people out for being mentally subnormal or whatever are really edgy and intelligent, but without fail they 100% make you look like an absolute nutter raving about things only you can see.

Is it me?

Will we see her again?

It's who's also I'm not trying to say he's a subnormal human or anything.

That's Jenny!

lol

l0l

>I'm not trying to say he's a subnormal human or anything.
So, what are you trying to say, user?
No, she's dead laying in rocket wreckage on the moon of the hath, according to the gaint welshman.

Stop samefagging using a VPN, Cloister.

Yeah Cloister

Nah, RTD's comments aren't canon.

As far as I'm concerned, Jenny is alive.

Also, how did you like the Braindead finale? MEW's gonna be in Fargo.

whats funny?

you, nerd

Shut up Cloister.

>talking to yourself
Bored, Cloister?

Shut up Cloister

k, sorry guys. hugs?
Maybe.
I liked it. I'm glad they wrapped it up. Woudnt mind a second season though. I heard. I rather enjoyed the first season of fargo, the second one I honestly lost interest in. I'll probably check out the third.

Fuck off cats.

Hey guys.

Another case of the Cartmel era's uncanny ability to make it FEEL like the Doctor is a genius chessmaster playing an epic game over the course of centuries without it actually making a damn bit of sense. Still, the climax is one of the most intense in Classic Who and it retcons Ace's retarded origin story from Dragonfire.

This is probably my favourite Classic Who serial. Even though half of it is nonsense, the stacked layers of theme, conspiracy, portentous dialogue, memorable characters and imagery wash over you like an imaginative orgasm.
>Don't be frightened of the water

GL-Fenric-Survival is probably the strongest run of episodes of all Classic Who. Even in Tom's years there was one story that was just good between the greats. You can make a point for Robots of Death-Weng Chiang-Fang Rock but that's spanning two seasons.

My more or less first Class ep, and still one of my favorites. It just has an epic feel to it.

>first Class ep

I meant "first Classic ep".

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What roles did we need to fill for the Foreman audio btw? Male or female?

I had never seen her before but this is pretty much how I imagined Mary Whitehouse anyway

Nirvi's for sure, and a few little ones too iirc.

We need female. Specifically, Nirvi.

I've got a male who might do it in a very racist, very high pitched accent. How long is it?

Very, and don't bother desu.

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Nirvi (female), Alex (male), both very big parts, plus four or five bit parts that can be anyone.

Midnight is an example of why I hate normies.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

What I'd imagine GirlyLetters too look like irl

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holy fuck I can't finish this episode

>194 posts
>27 posters
what are these threads

lol

The fight of fans against the growing darkness. We only need to keep the light burning until October...

are we really going to turn into a /class/ general?

Why is it such a crazy concept that people might post more than 8 times in one thread?

We will when Capaldi makes his cameo.

>implying he won't

in the first episode supposedly

First and last episode, probably

we will see like 3 episodes of the cast trying to figure out how to deal with the BIG PROBLEM of the finale and in the end they will use Capaldi as a Deus ex machina. I can already smell it. Knowing Moffat it practically reeks of his usual ways.

>Knowing Moffat it practically reeks of his usual ways.
Which Moffat episode has the Doctor turn up at the end as a deus ex machina?

A deus ex machina saves every of his finales

What was it in series 5, 6 and 9?

Moffat's not writing it though

amy wishing 11 into existence, the doctor being a robot and clara being brought back to life

The first two came from pre-established notions in the series. Isn't deus ex machina when the resolution comes from a completely out of left field like the Doctor hacking the Archangel Network or Bad Wolf.
>clara being brought back to life
That wasn't the conflict of Hell Bent and Clara living didn't resolve it.

>pre-established notions

the dude said specifically that he wouldn't use the robot outing and that 11 really had died. then came out of left field with his dumb ass resolve.

>the doctor being a robot
>plot point set up 6 episodes in advance
>deus ex machina
It's supposed to refer to things that are not made likely by the world of the story. The Time Lords having the ability to freeze time, for example, is something you might expect them to be able to do.

Even Amy restoring the Doctor had several scenes setting it up in advance, in fact it got more explanation than his being erased in the first place did.

'In the end Class will use Capaldi as a deus ex machina, I know because Moffat' isn't actually a reliable statement, not that Moffat is writing Class anyway.

Canton Everett Delaware III you mean? I don't think he knew. I'm not fond of that resolution I'm just saying not sure if it counts as deus ex machina. I think it felt too EASY in the way it was established honestly so it's like the exact opposite.

>The Time Lords having the ability to freeze time, for example, is something you might expect them to be able to do.
Didn't they do so in the War Games? they slowed it at the very least. If it counts Moff was harkening back to their literal first onscreen action. Neat.

As a counterexample, Danny and the Brigadier overcoming their cyber programming is much closer to a deus ex machina, not merely because "love isn't an emotion" is sloppy logic, but because that logic isn't established anywhere in the story previously. It's not part of the story's web until the moment it's deployed, which makes it a baffling curveball.

11 being able to save Clala from the time noodle apparently unharmed is more a problem of there being no established logic as to how that thing works in the first place.

kek you're right. that user picked the exact wrong finale resolutions.

"Love isn't an emotion" is just as bad as "a family sad on christmas make snowmen melt." Like nobody else who was cyberconverted loved anybody who was alive and nobody in the world is sad that snowmen are trying to take over the world. makes it seem like the threats would inevitably defeat themselves. Bravo Moff.

Turn left best NuWho episode

imo

In the slurred, meme-addled reality of a Christmas special, "a whole family crying...on CHRISTMAS EVE?!!?!" can be spun as the worst, most inconceivable, awfully sad thing imaginable in the universe and fewer people will bat an eyelid than usual.

Nothing about the snowmen in The Snowmen really makes sense though desu.
>that scene where they eat the poor people
I don't dislike it as an episode but it needed more time in the oven, or the freezer as it were.

The "one word" scene with Clara and Vastra is my least favorite scene in Moffat Who. It was so stupid.

I like that scene. The impossibility and the fact she gets it by luck is the point, it's always by chance that the Doctor ends up finding the right people. Plus it is basically a test of how good Clara is at pottery.

I can agree, The Snowmen is totally watchable. Still have no idea what people see in the kitschy inhuman behavior of the Clara echoes compared to the real thing. P sure it was by design they're just so doll-like and fake acting.

That was the start of Vastra being a pompous lil Shit. Jenny needs a new waifu.

This is true Clala is a master of pottery. And I guess it worked out in Deep Breath when Vastra was a pompous lil shit again and Clala rekt her again.

Someone post that photo of 7 that looks exactly like Moffat. I still can't believe that photo. No matter how much I look at it, all I see is Moffat, not McCoy. Is it a photoshop? How is it real? Maybe we'll never know...

was it this one? I don't think it's that similar t b h

This one?

What's your least favorite Doctor guys? Mine is 5.

Yeah that one, thanks. I immediately see Moff whenever I see it, I have to concentrate to see it as McCoy. It's like whoever took that screenshot caught a very Moff-facial expression, just for a split second.

Never seen that one before but it's somewhat Moffy too.

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Sixie. Still kinda like him though.

12/11
Can't decide wich I like the most

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Teethant

Shit I read that wrong
In that case that would be 9 and 5
I don't find them very Doctor-Y

Agreed. He was too melodramatic and inconsistent and they played up the human aspect of him way too much which I think is the opposite of what The Doctor should be.

I'm glad the Doctor doesn't have a catch phrase any more.

yeah it's so easy to say here but this guy

>tfw Fivey's in my top 4

Shut up, pudding brain. That is not the question, the question is "How many phrases does he have?"

I've been away from /who/ for a bit. Any memes I've missed?

there the one about the guy that stalks the cast when filming, he's called adam orford

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Eccleston bullies children and takes their crisps.

>this is he was never allowed to have a Christmas special
It all makes sense now

HAND OVER THE FUCKIN', CRISPS!

This is the reason why Eccleston doesn't go to cons. Because he's banned from them so he won't attack the cosplayers and rob them of their crisps. Literally every relationship he's had with mankind has been ruined by his insatiable need for crisps, from his divorces to his estranged friends. Because loved ones are nothing, absolutely nothing, compared to the fresh salty taste of crisps.

I heard he once gave a bewhiskered hipster an orbital fracture via headbutt because he had the gumption to lackadaisically offer him artisanal maize chips in a faux-dega somewhere in bushwick or greater brooklyn.

Sad, but true. He's a crisps fiend, pure and simple.

That's why Big Finish needs to step up their game if they want any Eccleston. Symphony of Curries? Fuck that, you give him a Crescendo of Crisps.

>that moment when your mummy packs you pretzels for lunch so the Eccleman leaves you alone

As you come into this world,
something else is also born.
You begin your life
and it begins a journey.
Towards you.
Wherever you go.
Whatever path you take.
It will follow.
You will notice a second shadow next to yours.
Your life will then be over.

Oops, missed a few lines:

"As you come into this world,
something else is also born.
You begin your life
and it begins a journey.
Towards you.
It moves slowly, but it never stops.
Wherever you go, whatever path you take, it will follow.
Never faster, never slower, always coming.
You will run. It will walk.
You will rest. It will not.
One day, you will linger in the same place too long.
You will sit too still or sleep too deep and when, too late, you rise to go, you will notice a second shadow next to yours.
Your life will then be over."

Since when do you watch Doctor Who /who/?
I've been in this ride since 2014

2010. I fear Chibnall's Who will kill my love for the show.

I want to go back to leak /who/. Not only was /who/ GOAT but so was my life. Now I'm miserable and depressed.

2010 here as well. No signs of stopping.

1982/3. I remember it coming on after the auctions on PBS, that and possibly hitchhikers guide and my dad watched them. The auctions were my favorite Cred Forums "show" at the time. The theme music scared me, and so did tom baker, but I watched city of death through my fingers at parts, white leisure suits still make me nervous. Never paid it any mind after that until the tv movie and occasionally picking up the random book when the bookstore in the mall I soda jerked at ran out of star trek books until the a couple of years into the revival I started watching again and going back. Probably never will complete it desu.
It would be nice to be able to watch series 10 in our own little bubble here. Like we did with the leaks, untainted by the casual fans and live threads.

What was said to confirm it?

Earliest memories are of Davison but I didn't start watching properly until 88.

2011 or '12.

>1982/3.
wait what, how fucking old are you Cloister? Belle looks like she's in her early 20's

I watched the first two seasons back in 2010. 1 was amazing but I didn't like season 2 at all. Eccleston broke my heart and I had no further interest in season 3. A friend of mine later watched Eleventh Hour with me but that didn't do it for me either. Then in mid 2012 I had a huge amount of free time and I started with season 4 and watched the whole show in one go. Asylum of the Daleks was the first episode I watched on broadcast.

They just acknowledged it as a theory and didn't really confirm or deny it.

>ASHILDR: By your own reasoning, why couldn't the Hybrid be half Time Lord, half human? Tell me, Doctor, I've always wondered. You're a Time Lord, you're a high-born Gallifreyan. Why is it you spend so much time on Earth?
>DOCTOR: That's your best theory? I'm the Hybrid? I ran away from Gallifrey because I was afraid of myself? That doesn't make any sense.
>ASHILDR: It makes perfect sense, and you know it. Am I right? Is it true?
>DOCTOR: Does it matter?

2012, I got a 10 costume for Halloween that year that I still use every Halloween

It was a bit tight last year though

I was hoping they'd explicitly confirmed it desu.

>The Doctor didnt run away from Gallifrey because he was bored anymore
Honestly, Im just gonna keep ignoring that the series 9 arc ever happened

I am 38, and she's in her late 20s.
Britbong or Americlap? I'm just curious if anyone else has experienced the hell of a pledge drive.

Come on, they never would. It's one of the things people take the piss out of the TV movie for. You don't need to go into shit like that.

I'm English.

This.

>Have you ever thought what it's like to be wanderers in the Fourth Dimension? Have you? To be exiles? Susan and I are cut off from our own planet - without friends or protection. But one day we shall get back. Yes, one day.
And I'm gonna keep ignoring that all the subsequent retcons happened desu

I've never had a problem with it. So what if he's half human? It doesn't change anything really.

Moffat's pre-Unearthly Child stuff bothers me too but, to be fair, Remembrance of the Daleks already explicitly showed there was more to it than boredom.

>I am 38, and she's in her late 20s.
Gross, dude. Let her go and date someone your own age.

>tfw I'm probably the youngest person here

>Gross, dude. Let her go and date someone your own age.
You sound well jell.

She's more mature than me desu senpaitachi. I'm barely an adult. Besides she won't leave, I'm a big dumb asshole. The dumb broad loves me.
Like peering into the vortex, you see the possibilities of realities before you, you will become us.

no, that's Cats.

FUCKING SEASON 9 SOUNDTRACK WHEN.

Since 2005. I must have watched some Classic Who when I was too young to remember because one of my oldest nightmares is being chased around by a Dalek and something about the TARDIS and a beach.

So I essentially grew upon on Who. It's the only TV show I watch other than occasionally Star Wars Movie or Hannibal or Sherlock.

>why couldn't the Hybrid be half Time Lord, half human
In my head, the Doctor will always be Ulysses and Penelope Gate's kid.

Cats isn't a person. It's a meme.

Was anyone else really impressed by Nicholas Parsons performance as Reverend Wainwright? He's better known as a gameshow host than an actor but imho he blew everyone else out of the water with his acting.

Yeah, he was really good.

2006. I was a kid on the internet looking up Teen Titans shit, and found out one of the villains' character designs was based off something called a Dalek. Then I looked up Daleks on wikipedia, got to the Doctor Who page, was interested at the premise, watched a handful of Tennant episodes on YouTube, and so on.

It was also when I figured out just who the hell that man with the scarf and curly hair was on The Simpsons.

Parsons worked as an actor from the end of WW2 up until 1971. Not in lead roles, but got enough work to earn a reasonable living.

I've only seen him act in Dr Who but based on what I saw he deserves more recognition as an actor.

Who's your favorite Doctor?

McCoy

Why is Eight the best Doctor?

Because he's half human. On his mother's side.

Because broken things have more value to us. Like a dog with two legs.

Stonecold.

I NEED MORE DOCTOR WHO

AND I NEED IT NOW

Capaldi, closely followed by Tom Baker and Pertwee.

Because aside from the TV movie his stories were never aimed at the not we.

because he's the chosen one. He found the Sacred Scrolls of Rassilon and he will lead the people of Gallifrey out of the darkness and prevent the planet from shattering.

Was it a minor skirmish by /who/'s blood-soaked standards?

What the fuck is with the delay on the latest War Doctor boxed set?

Was what a minor skirmish by /who/'s blood soaked standards?

They're adding a new episode with Omega.

>I fear Chibnall's Who will kill my love for the show.

Yeah, me 2. Altho I moan about some of Moffat's Who, overall he remains my favorite Who writer, and I kinda trust him.

Will give Chinballs a chance tho.

archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/72931597/#q72962022

No they're not.

I watched it back in 2006. Seen the end of Rise of The Cybermen. Then watched the Faceless Ones part 1 somehow that hooked me

You're gonna have to point me to the specific posts you mean.

Every single Great Intelligence and Name of the Doctor-related posts. Starts with "it was a minor skirmish"

I must have missed this meme.

been watching since Rose in 2005. didn't start with the classic doctors though till about 2011

It was a good meme desu.

I'll get the new thread ready.

Don't believe this lie, it was neither good nor a meme.

Since the first broadcast of Blink, continued watching after that.

Have now seen all of NuWho, and watched a lot of Classic Who too. Confess I've not listened to any audios (yet), and have only read novels featuring NuWho Doctors.

NuThread

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2006.
I saw the Doctor Dances, but didn't start watching until Tooth and Claw.

Got my first classic DVD the next year when waiting for Series 4 was too much

Which DVD?

>She's more mature than me desu senpaitachi. I'm barely an adult
Literally all old dudes dating below their age group say that.

Jealousy is not an attractive trait, user.