Hansen vs Predator

on the same channel

What exactly do these people get charged with? Is is a crime to talk to a decoy online?

Where is 2?

In some states it's a felony to make a date for sex with someone you believe is a minor.

Noice. I know what I'm watching right now.

so basically, they're stupid in the language they use. If it's illegal to make arragements for sex, then you just never mention sexual acts of any kind. At worst you say "netflix n chill."

>Prove you don't have a gun

Red flags all round

Yep, I would've just been like "Oh shit, I called the wrong number. Sorry to bother you," Then just walked away.

Episode 2
youtube.com/watch?v=0Hbw4ZZbG5Q

google drive with all the original eps
drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bx5i7KZDL0-4WWlaaHBJZTRhVms

thanks mate

100% entrapment

God I hate this show and this concept who really likes this all it promotes is arresting people for a crime that don't commit

>Pedo found with a kill kit in car
>entrapment
Sure thing, cuck.

Yeah, all the pedos Hansen catches are the dumber ones. That's why the show is so entertaining. Dumb people are more fun to watch.

You do realizes it's a crime to try and even attempt to have sex with someone below the age of 18

The worst part is these dumb fucks don't even talk to the police with a lawyer. They have him sign away his rights without a fucking lawyer there. They're god damn retards. it's painful to watch the stupidity

>Sign away your right to remain silent
>Start telling BS stories to the cops

Why do people do this. Literally as soon as Hansen appears you should say nothing besides the word "lawyer"

If I was trying to fuck kids and got caught I'd be completely honest about it too though. They shouldn't try to get out of it. They've fucked up and they know it.

Yep, says "Lawyer" once, and then never speak another word.

Why request a lawyer though? Would you actually try to get away with trying to fuck kids? That makes you worse than the dumb pedos who spill their guts.

Found the pedo.

Isn't it retarded to be arrested for having sex with a willing participant and besides 14 and 15 year olds are legal in Europe so why shouldn't it be legal here

When does episode 3 come out?

I think it's canon that Hansens "take a seat" powers have increased dramatically in this new series, to the point of making pedos sign away their rights without questioning it.

exercising your rights makes you a bad person? Nah. I plea the fifth. I have the right to remain silent and I am absolutely going to do that.

Also anything recorded by the TV crew isn't usable as evidence. You did not consent to be recorded. Chris is not law enforcement.

>112 pounds can you lift that much
>yes I can babe
Jesus man, even an aidetic leper could lift that much;

Wanting to fuck kids makes you a good person?

>14 and 15 year olds are legal in Europe
Go away pol, you read some bullshit again on internet.

Wanting to fugg kids is as natural as homosexuality. Does being gay make you a bad person? obviously yes, both make you a degenerate

you do realize that the very nature of the program makes that crime impossible, right?

he didn't try or even attempt because there was no girl below the age of 18 talking to him

it's an impossible crime to commit with that scenario, let alone attempt to do it

Minors can't give consent.

see

american laws are retarded

>guys says he's selling weed but he has literally nothing with him
>ask him how much is it
>ARRESTED BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT THE GUY HAD WEED AND TRIED TO BUY IT

what the fuck

what a bullshit show.

the only way do this shit right would be having actual 10-12 year old decoys, and letting the rapists have real sex with them on camera, so there's enough proof to send the pedos to jail.

>entire crew gets charged with making and distributing CP
That would be perfect.

Are you arab?
It is normal laws in every country.
You got arrested not only for committing crime, but for trying to do it also.
This is way so many people arrested for terrorism before they even can blow up something.

Intent is what matters. If you rob a store, put your hand in your coat pocket, and tell the cashier you have a gun but you really don't, you still get charged with armed robbery because the cashier believed you had one and that their life was in danger.

what kind of n00b has condoms in their kill kit? just cum inside and burn the body.

What are you doing here big guy? Did you think you wouldn't get caught? What was next in your master plan?

when will sexy children be charged for baiting men?

It should genuinely be a crime for a 13 year old to do this.

For one, the decoys pretend to be 12-14, as pretending to be younger doesn't attract as much attention, and the "predatory" attention 0-11 does attract is from people who aren't fucking retarded.

Secondly, the issue here is "solicitation of a minor" stings are built around an imagined crime against an imagined victim, furthermore the perpetrators are so universally retarded as they'd never so much as be able to contact a real girl, much less get an address from them. So all this combines to form a scenario where its utterly impossible for there to even potentially be a real victim, other than the pathetic retards being "caught."

There was no 13 year old though. That "guy believes he's talking to a kid" rule doesn't apply to the decoy posing as a kid, and the decoy never initiates the conversation. She waits for guys to talk to her, and she also waits for the guys to make it sexual.

> arrested for terrorism

potential/suspected terrorists aren't formally arrested, granted the rights granted even the worst criminals, or even acknowledged as existing once they're detained.

i'm a lawyer m8 but not american.

you can only try if there is a chance that the crime is committed. when there is no crime, there can be no attempt

that's a different situation, you're actually commiting a crime there, you are robbing someone and the means used by the criminal are relevant.

intent doesn't always matter. if i see a dead body on the beach and shoot the body thinking that he's sleeping, my intent to kill is irrelevant since it is impossible to kill a dead person therefore i cannot be charged with murder or attempted murder

Any girl telling anyone they're all clean, fresh, and naked, after just showering, is overtly sexual. Bitch clearly crossed a line there.

... holy shit is robert durst

Isn't it the guy who said that? That's why Chris Hansen greets him with "hey boo"

Except these pedos do commit a crime. They're soliciting a minor.

>b-b-but the person typing is over 18!

That's not the crime. The crime is them going on chat rooms and social media with the intent of finding a minor for sex.

The guy liked the girl to call him boo.

Its a huge stretch to argue these people are looking for minors specifically rather than just anyone willing to get within 20 feet of them.

>imagined crime against an imagined individual

Stands to reason their sentence should be imaginary as well.

There were no kids involved at all in this entrapment
I can always alledgelly say I was merely roleplaying that decoy was a petite girl, but NEVER EVER thinked for any moment that I will meet a real child on that house
I didn't consent a recording of mine

>rather than just anyone willing to get within 20 feet of them
Definitely. Most of these people come off as slightly retarded and desperate, to me.

That is fucking insane if the decoy sent a message like that.

Have any of you seen the superior russian version?

The crime isn't actually fucking the girl. It's the solicitation. The act of them going on social media and the intent to fug a minor.

That's illegal. Against the law. A crime. And they break that law.

Seriously, how is this too hard to get?

I don't want to honestly, russians are some savage motherfuckers

You can imagine yourself banging a 12 year old all day long. You can even admit to other people that you're imagining it. However, you break the law the second you go on the internet with the intent to fulfill that imagination.

we're arguing that this law is retarded, not that it doesn't exist

I have no sympathy for pedos.

Are you labelled as a sex offender if a 13 year old rapes an adult?

neither do i but legislation and due process are a little bit more complex than your feelings about some topic

Fantano?

What's the issue? Most of these people that get caught get pretty light sentences. Hell, don't even get convicted.

Possibly. There's a case I know of where a teenage boy was raped by his teacher, and she concieved a child. Once he was of age, she sued the guy for child support and won.

Is that such a bad thing?

Let me tell you I do not trust this kickstarter not even for a second
I mean to catch a predator had a pretty big crew and network support, what's this show running on? How are they planning to profit from it? Is the only source of income kickstarter money and YouTube adds?

>every time they show a camera that fucking noise from the "This is the sound of a computer being hacked" radio commercial

Hence the reason it takes so long to film a season of this and why all the people caught seem to be less predator and more hopeless retard so desperate for any intimacy from anyone what so ever they'll just ignore the fact the manic pixie dream girl they found says shes 13 or 14.

>It's bretty good for something shot on an iPhone.

That's far from good.

It depends on what state you're in

link

here:
and a light sentence or not being convicted is not an excuse for an unreasonable law

Source?

They kinda explicitly show hansen tricking/pressuring boo into signing a confession for a number of crimes he would have never been convicted of otherwise.

Good. That was the main goal of the show. To deter pedos. All that's left are the retards that never watched TCAP.

PIDF is on full force tonight.

Here we fucking go again.
>muh thought crime
>muh imaginary victim

I can't fucking wait until this system collapses and we can hunt you creatures down like the fucking vermin you are.

>pedos

Its specifically avoiding target pedophiles though, by having the decoy claim to be a teenager.

Dude, when they start hunting down and arresting people based solely upon feefees, you're next.

Asking for a lawyer can't be used as evidence of guilt in a trial. Learn2law man

btw pedos are scum but these idiots still piss me off

They really need to crank the age down to 10-12, get the real sickos.

does this show violate the NAP?

is he being detained?

under what authority?

>can't fucking wait until this system collapses

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

KILL YOURSELF PLEASE

>exercising your legal rights as stated by police as they arrest you is an admission of guilt
Yeah, no. No one take advice from this retard.

Annoying that MSNBC wouldn't show this in between them shilling Hillary and BLM all day

wut. I said it can't be used

Sneak peek for tomorrow's episode

youtu.be/Auf8yhQtT_M

woops, read it too fast and saw can instead of can't

None of my feelings involve raping children, so I should be in the clear.

>he thinks a social order where the wealthy pay no taxes, a third of all working-age people don't work, and cops can't use justifiable force against certain classes of criminals has any future

Son, once people are allowed to exterminate whatever offends them, everyone ends up dead. Because people are easy as fuck to offend.

... So I hope you don't eat meat, watch porn, enjoy any television show, vote, watch the news, participate in politics, etc, etc, etc, etc.

you dropped your uneducated fedora right there, mr edgelord

He's correct, a demand for legal counsel cannot be proffered at trial as evidence of guilt, but police can use infer it as PC to further an investigation. It's been upheld by lower courts that warrants issued on no other basis than the subject refused a search without a warrant are Constitutional searches.

They try. The decoys don't get as much attention and the attention they do get, they can't do anything with.

As real pedos try to be friends with little girl/boys, build trust, then slowly progress to sex.

>post-pubescent girl
>pedo
nope

i don't agree with adults preying upon minors but there are plenty of mature 14+ year old girls who are capable of making a decision with their own body. there are many stories of people falling in love when the girl was a minor and the guy was an adult, and then getting married or otherwise staying together after she was 18. i'm getting tired of the myth that teenage girls are "children" and it's "wrong" to be attracted to attractive females. i see adults of all ages and walks of life checking out high school girls all the damn time. perfectly normal.

true peds, the rapists, the ones who "fall in love" with children, need to be put to death though.

>a third of all working-age people don't work

US unemployment is 5%. If you think that equals a third, you might have a legitimate reason for not being able to hold a job.

No, faggots end up dead, glorious monarchies are restored, civilization is reborn, and fag concepts like the rights of women and niggers get flushed down the toilet like the turds they are.

But meat is good and only faggots who should be killed think otherwise, porn is filth, most TV is garbage, no one should be permitted to vote, only the intelligent should be awarded political responsibility by the monarch, etc., etc., etc.

For an example of such a glorious society, see africa, as they're literally practicing what you're preaching over there.

you should probably learn what entrapment is

They are approaching the decoys on their own. Entrapment would be if the police made first contact.

> BUCANIN MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING MORE IN MIND

OH GOD.

Pic is you, fag.

>5%
That's the U1/U2 rate, which is an honest expression of unemployment as it's defined by the BLS and Fed, but there are millions of parasites on SSDI for "conditions" like diabetes and autism. Half of all working age blacks are out of the work force, pure and simple. Some are incarcerated, some (males, obviously) flit to and from the homes of their children's mothers, women who live off of WIC and SNAP and any number of other welfare benefits programs. No matter how you slice it, 1/3 of all people able to work not only don't, but rely on the largesse of government for income. Couple that with the fact that the wealthiest Americans get not only the most favorable tax treatment (carried interest, cap. gains, etc.) but the largest subsidies (mortgage interest, etc.), and you can begin to understand why this is flaming out.

>hold a job
Bitch, I've been a retail investor for almost 15 years, and I was an investment banker and fund manager before that. I'll lose more in my couch cushions in the next week than you'll make all year.

>I'm gonna pick you up and put you against the shower wall

OH YEAH, BUD?

Niggers don't know how to run civilization tho.

Even that wouldn't be entrapment. Entrapment, as has been covered 30,000 times in the past week during these threads, is when an agent of the state induces an actor to commit a crime. That's INDUCES, not entices. Induction requires either a threat or a promise of reward.

anyone else think the new decoy sucks? she gets rattled too easily

No one person does.

Hence the reason monarchy fails.

>cant run a civilization
>had one of the world's first kingdoms

wew lad you Cred Forums bitches are getting dumber and dumber by the minute.

hopefully one day an user will walk into 'decoys' house with a back pack saying it's just toys and things they could use to have a good time.

then as he sits down, around the corner comes chris.
just as chris is about to say his line. user stands up and says, 'well, this just blew up in my face.'

presses a button hidden in his hand.

news reports that a bomb was detonated in a neighborhood destroying the house and killing over 10+ of the crew 'how to catch a predator'.

>induces not entices

and the general theme of the arguments against your constant appeal to authority is the distinction between the two is basically zero in this instance.

I guess he couldn't help catching the predator that is aging

What reason do these "suspects" have to assume the decoys are actually minors? What business does a 13 year old girl have talking to a 30 or 40 year old dude after a/s/l? Maybe they just assumed it was ageplay and they didn't drop the charade after because they saw it truly was an adult wearing a cap when they got to the house. Maybe if the decoy was an actual minor, they'd have a legit argument.

It should be illegal to do this because it serves no real purpose. There's no proof any of these guys are violent (except kill-kit guy, i guess) so you can't legally assume they would sexually assault the girls if they said no. So you also can't prove they'd be picking up girls in their van off the street. So no, you haven't made the streets safer -- you've just prevented an extremely stupid 13 year old girl from making a foolish mistake.

What if someone was violent and they came to the house expecting the sting. What if an innocent person was killed in the ensuing shootout?

>I've been a retail investor for almost 15 years

Oh so you qualify as part of the "non-working working-age."

cool.

Mah nigga.

he/she didnt say the unemployment rate was 1/3.
Hows common core workin' out for you?

Teenagers always want to be seen as adults, having some old man treating them like an equal is all it takes sometimes.

What happened to the second guy for his life to spiral downhill like that?

Father Time is a bitch nigga

He sounds like Jimmy Stewart.

Eh, my mind doesn't work in stupid ways to instantly know he was trying to say anyone who doesn't have a legit job (such as an investor) doesn't work.

He was born.

all the fucking pedo fags in this thread getting triggered lel

based chris

>Why do they only do one pedo per episode
When TCAP first started as a Dateline segment it was the same deal. After it got popular they started devoting entire episodes to it.

Best classic TCAP episode? Give me something to warm up on before this.

>he didn't confuse 1/3rd for 5%, hes actually much, much, MUCH stupider than that

...

This is all predicated on the fact that the perps are willing to do it and the 13 year old decoys are also willing, but unable to legally give consent. These visibly emotionally stunted and desperate adults are willing to set aside (or mentally cannot comprehend) moral issues because the decoy is implying they also want the same thing. I bet most of these guys have never felt/been loved romantically, makes people do fucked up shit. These people need mental help, not public shaming. All this TCAP shit is the equivalent of laughing at a kid with down syndrome.

Kill all the pedos

No sympathy for kid fuckers, sorry pedo

>post-pubescent
>kid
nope

Only 13 minutes?

the only people who think teenagers aren't kids are teenagers and pedos

it was just a segment of dateline, which was just a video news magazine type deal.

and doctors. and teachers. and psicologysts.

>teenagers
>every person across the entire age group is the same level of maturity and the exact same person
nope

16/17/18 year olds date up all the time. sometimes the dudes don't even know.

Why do they fuckign confess?

Even the most incompetent lawyer can shred years off this case, probably get probation fi no priors in certain states.

Do people actually think coming clean helps you in the fucking slightest?

hansen lies to them about how it'll be worse if goes to trial, etc.

They edit out the parts where he clearly and overtly lies to them.

I'm a pedophile and 14 is too old for me.

You realize most of the world does not view a man of any age fuckign a 16 year old as a crime?
Is he a scumbag, sure, but it doesnt warrant losing your entire life.

Hell plenty of european countries have age of consent at 14 or 15

The worst part about this is that they are sending dudes to jail as kid rapist.
No one in the pen gives a fuck about details with shit like this, they hear you are in for pedo shit you are fucking marked.

I really dont give a shit about text or intentions, unless you actually raped a kid you don't deserve what happens to you when you go to prison with that crime.

Heard y'all were talking some shit.

>No one in the pen gives a fuck about details with shit like this, they hear you are in for pedo shit you are fucking marked.
YEAH MAN, YEAH.
I just seen in the last episode too, at the end where Chris is talking about how dudes in for "pedo shit" get treated - alongside a shot of someone walking up the stairs with a quick closeup of his ass.

Now somebody is actually getting raped, in addition to life destroyed, this person who we don't actually know anything about. We don't know their mental health history, maybe they have undiagnosed issues. Everyone won't be the same, maybe some of these dudes deserve what they get. But you can't be against STATUATORY rape but FOR actual sexual assault. Hypocritical ass illogical motherfuckers

Attempted sex/assault/endangerment of a minor, sending lewd material to a minor, soliciting sex from a minor

>Attempted Sex or Solicitation of Sex with a Minor

Not super complicated.

>pedophile literally thinks hes on his way to a 12 year old girls house to rape her (it is indeed rape)
>not deserving of being raped in jail

im all for the occassional CP thread but even i can see you are retarded scum

Maybe once they get out of prison, after experiencing being raped, they'll become true rapists themselves. And rape 50 girls. All because Chris Hansen wanted to get hits on YouTube.

The reported unemployment rate =/= labor force participation rate

>12 year old girl
No decoy has ever been younger than 13, I believe.

>statuatory "rape"
>the same thing as real rape
nope

>people who commit non-violent crimes deserve to be treated the same as those who have
nope

>people who commit violent crimes deserve to be treated the same as those they have victimized
yes, but it's not very sophisticated of mankind to practice or encourage this. we should aspire to be the best we can be, imo -- we should at least fucking TRY.

Just an fyi, here's the historical labor force participation rate, notice it's well below 2/3rds for most of this nation's history.

>all that stuff in his trunk

hoooooooly shit

episode 2 decoy was 12. why are you even trying to argue the different between 12 and 13? A 13 year old child couldnt possibly understand the gravity of the situation they are in, and the adult absolutely can (or should). Taking advantage of a child who doesnt know what they are talking about or doing is tantamount to rape

>people who commit non-violent crimes deserve to be treated the same as those who have

>raping little kids
>non violent

>yes, but it's not very sophisticated of mankind to practice or encourage this. we should aspire to be the best we can be, imo -- we should at least fucking TRY.

giving leniency to people who do what they can to deprive others of it is a cucked, backwards way of thinking and partially the reason that europe is flooded with immigrants from shitty countries and cultures that cant stop raping people

in short, you are a pedophile nu male cuck and your opinions are immediately disregarded

>having sex with someone who agrees to have sex with you, even seems excited about the prospect
>rape
nope

>mfw i escape going to jail for having sex with a 6 year old because they agreed and were even excited about the propsect

but in all seriousness, if you believe what you just posted then its time for sudoku

I'm sure Hansen does that, but so do the police, with every criminal they've ever interviewed. The police don't have to be honest, if they were they would never get a confession from anyone.

I have a criminal law degree, anyone arguing that these stings are entrapment or not legal is fully retarded. They certainly lay on a questionable ethical boundary, but they are completely legal. If you have intent to do something illegal, and then make an action to accomplish that goal (in this case, going to the house) you have done that crime. It doesn't matter if the girl/drugs/gun/hitman actually exists

youtube.com/watch?v=0Hbw4ZZbG5Q

Episode 2

yeah the police will and do lie to people to confess ("we already know what happened, we just need to hear it from you")

It's half of the episode.

me and my mate were having a sesh in the car watching this, man hansen is a fucking chad. the way he berates these sickos like they are his kids, and the way they sit down every time like an obedient dog in trouble is fucking hilarious

pedos B T F O

>lies

except that is true, hansen can't predict his sentence just that it could be easily worse at a trial

you pedos are fucking stupid

No state has a law in which consensual sex with a teenager is treated the same as rape. Every state has separate laws for statutory and violent rape. They are treated and punished very differently. Most statutory rapsists don't get more than a couple years, some with minimal age differences get nothing but probation (This of course varies on a shit ton of factors)

You have no idea how the american criminal justice system works, shut the fuck up then please commit suicide my man.

>A 13 year old child couldn't possibly understand the gravity of the situation they are in
>Taking advantage of a child
Not all young teenagers are the same. Many people have grown up in fucked up situations which has made them wise beyond their years. What's the big "gravity situation" here? Sex and attraction is pretty instinctual. You either want to do it or you don't. You do realize teenagers have sex amongst themselves all the time? It'd be wrong for anyone to force themself onto another person but we haven't seen any of the perps do it in real life. Yeah they send creepy shit online but people regularly say/do things online that they otherwise wouldn't irl.

I'm not saying these guys haven't done something wrong here, but I just don't believe the punishment suits the crime.

holy fuck, addmiting to secual relation from a few months ag, fuck make talkabout digging yourself a hole he didnt need to say that shit

what the fuck does it matter what hansen says to them? hes literally just some guy, he doesnt even make them talk to him

>literally gets told no by a 13 year old girl
>goes in for a hug
>brings condoms, gifts and alcohol to children
>talks about how they want to be inside a child

Man, sure is horrible that these guys end up in jail.

>Not all young teenagers are the same. Many people have grown up in fucked up situations which has made them wise beyond their years

t. molested child

>Sex and attraction is pretty instinctual. You either want to do it or you don't. You do realize teenagers have sex amongst themselves all the time?
>13 year olds instinctually want to have sex with 40+ year old literal dregs of society

Really though your little tirade about sexual attraction and instinct has once again proven your opinions arent worth their weight in dupree's hair gel

>a promise of reward.
Isn't that what fucking the girl is?

I'm 33, have kids, and I've seen some shit in my days. (I am a foster parent, and I've grown up around other foster kids) No 13 year old is mentally capable of having sex and dealing with the issues that go along with it. Fuck, most 18 year olds aren't. Ask any girl in her 30s that "had sex" (was raped, imo) with a substantially older guy in her teens how she feels about it. None are cool with it, they all have negative feelings about the experience. The younger a girl has sex the more likely it is she is going to have mental issues (cutting, eating disorders, sexual disorders, addiction, I've seen them all)

>talks about how they want to be inside a child

He was talking metaphorically, sicko.

>in this case, going to the house
Your argument tripped and fell into some shit here.

The crime these stings are built around is solicitation of a minor and getting them to the house is just to cement a link to the chatlog.

They're not going for any other crime.

The reason people keep getting so confused about whether or not this is entrapment or not is because they fail to understand how these stings are actually operating, the legal statutes actually in play, rather than just the implied ones, the actual behavior of the decoys (disengaging from anyone remotely intelligent, suave, or cagey), etc, etc, on and on, forever.

Basically they're taking a large amount of slimy and complex legal maneuvering through several legal loopholes then presenting it as simply as possible for the viewing public. Implying things that aren't actually in play and letting the viewer jump to that conclusion on their own, so they can wash their hands of all responsibility for that conclusion, because they didn't overtly say it.

>the actual sentencing is what matters
nope
The point is that these people are subjected to the same harsh conditions and vilification as legit violent offenders for a far far lesser crime

All I'm saying is that if she is post-pubescent and mature enough to not be "preyed upon", and wants to make that choice, it should be hers to make. The guys are still pieces of shit but come on, there are real teenage prostitutes out there who do it of their own free will. This shit does happen.

year olds instinctually want to have sex with 40+ year old literal dregs of society
Exactly my god damn point. In this day in age what actual teenage girl would be victimized by an online stranger? If she was going to do it, it'd be because she was attracted to them. Is it the entire society's responsibility to prevent teenagers from making mistakes?

Bro, tonnes of them love bouncing on fat cock.

>Dat QT decoy though

Please don't come after me Chris.

You're right. The problem is hansen specifically targets people too stupid to know that you're right.

Because anyone remotely intelligent wouldn't make for dramatic television, were they caught at all.

This is why I fucking hate foster parents, not only do they usually have a holier than thou attitude, they all act like they're fucking experts on every subject concerning children.

You truly don't know jack shit, especially about human sexuality or the development of that sexuality.

>he doesn't realize that some bitches just love to have drama in their lives

it's funny how at one time they were exerting actual effort to make the decoy look remotely underage. Effort that got lower and lower as time went on.

Now shes just there, in all her middle-aged glory, and the show is still acting like she remotely passes for under 20, much less 13.

But we all know the reason they stopped exerting any effort on making the decoy look convincingly underage is because they don't need to. As solicitation of a minor, over the internet, is so close to literal thought crime the distinction is pure pedantry. But no one cares because LOL PEDO PEDO UR A PEDO

p sure the decoy is like 20 and is also an actor so you're good

>Been a while
Holy fucking kek

>All I'm saying is that if she is post-pubescent and mature enough to not be "preyed upon", and wants to make that choice, it should be hers to make

Everybody thinks that

>Exactly my god damn point. In this day in age what actual teenage girl would be victimized by an online stranger? If she was going to do it, it'd be because she was attracted to them.

HMMMM really made me think, that im arguing with a sub 100 IQ algerian who is also the village rapist

She's 19 you fucking idiot.

>thought crime

might have been if he hadn't shown up

I don't know that it is a "far lesser crime". I know plenty of girls that were fucked up mentally after being manipulated into sexual activity too young.

Every sex offender registry I know of lists the crime and age of victim. I don't feel bad for someone who bangs a 12 year old having to publicly announce they bang 12 year olds, they shouldn't be allowed around 12 year olds.

>The problem is hansen specifically targets people too stupid to know that you're right.

The pedo does the targeting, not hansen

youtube.com/watch?v=jC2ZY2loo74

Foster parents (who aren't just using the foster care system as a (sex) slave dispensary) have a much more accurate handle on child psychology than biological parents, as the ability of a biological parent to objectively gauge their child's behavior/potential/intelligence/maturity is completely removed by oxytocin.

>This is why I fucking hate foster parents, not only do they usually have a holier than thou attitude, they all act like they're fucking experts on every subject concerning children.

>You truly don't know jack shit, especially about human sexuality or the development of that sexuality.

pffhahahaha, this thread is populated by the brain damaged. seriously, do you even know what you are saying?

See Why does this have to be explained every other post?

Going to a house isn't a crime. They aren't trying to catch these people with any "intent" crimes.

>I don't feel bad for someone who bangs a 12 year old having to publicly announce they bang 12 year olds, they shouldn't be allowed around 12 year olds.
I don't either dude. I am only talking about post-pubescent girls. And I don't think someone should be subjected to all kinds of rape and torture themselves, for having consensual sex with a 15 year old.

THIRSTY NIGGAS

What I'm asking myself is the following: Why do they all agree that they are shown on television?

>She's 19

Does she smoke crack, shoot heroin, smoke meth, and have aids? Cause she looks 40.

>Going to a house isn't a crime.

It is when they have evidence you were coming there to fuck an underage

>completely removed

That's how I know you're a fucking moron. I genuinely feel sorry for the children you've fostered. They probably thought they were gonna get some super cool dad after coming from a battered home, and he ends up being some faggot who shitposts in Christ Hansen threads on fucking Cred Forums.

Do your children a favor and fucking kill yourself.

They don't. But since the house is private property Hanson doesn't need consent.

are you talking about the girl with the hat?

are you blind?

The bait is tailored to pull stupid losers and fuckups. As the decoy is specifically instructed to disengage from anyone remotely intelligent.

>there are people who unironically defend people who talk to (what they think is) little kids about fucking them, even after they show up at the little kids house when they said they would, and even when they bring condoms

rly made me thingk

Congratulations! You read a sentence. Now try the second one.

Or how about even a full post in one go?

we should chat up all the underage rooms
make it seem there's a gold mine for chris to wallow in
then just as the bait tells us to go to 'her' house
we type ,'nice try chris, but i'm going to the mall and pick up a real teenage girl. beep beep'
or
'better luck next crime chris'
or
'i didn't come for no boy booty. i came here for man's butt. now i likes you, and i wants you. we can do this the easy way or the hard way, the choice is yours'

>evidence i was coming there to fuck an underage
>maybe i just assumed it was ageplay since no teenager in their right mind would ever agree to this, in these modern times
>i arrived at the house and saw the decoy was, as i suspected, actually like 30 years old
>keep playing along with the fantasy
>have a huge Chris Hansen fetish
>this whole situation is really starting to make me aroused
>can't cum until the part where the police take me down
>now it's too late oh god what have i done

>anyone who thinks I'm stupid is the same person

... okay son, run along now.

I don't have to read it. You're completely wrong about everything.

>mentions how the absence of biological mechanisms related to loving your offspring dont play as big a part a role in foster families
>HAAHHAHAHA FUCKING RETARDED WOWOWWWWW HOPE UR KIDS DIE LOLOLOL

They could make fake profiles for 18-year-olds and they'd catch the exact same people. The "predators" aren't going after children, they're going after anyone who doesn't immediately reject them.

I think it might differ from state to state, but they say on some that the chats are all they need, them coming to the house is just the icing on the cake, and a way to arrest them.

>I won't read stuff that proves me wrong so I'm right!

what an enlightened individual you are!

>The "predators" aren't going after children
>he says in regards to a television show where about 500 people have been caught going after children

>being this mad about being wrong

wow

>post-pubescent girls
>children
nope

exactly. TCAP is fucking trash.

How would you know hes wrong? You haven't even read any of his posts. By your own admission.

wow, full circular logic.

Usually just tying something completely circular out is enough to make people realize it's completely circular.

I don't get laid nearly as much as I would like, but that doesn't mean I want to go fuck a 13 year old.

>muh entrapment
>muh imaginary crime
>no victim=no crime
qeq
Stop breaking the law assholes

>13 year olds
>not children

?????????????????

I can only assume that people who have no aversion to the bait being 13, have never interacted with a 13 year old at all

Most importantly its a way to get them on camera without needing their consent.

Also its never icing, you need a warrant for actual IP user data. You can get an approximate location with tracert, but not much more. But if you get them to do something that proves they're the person in the chatlog (LIKE SHOW UP AT A GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION), you bypass that.

>"predators" message 100 people a day
>get told to fuck off on a regular basis
>used to it by now, gladly do it
>finally someone actually gives positive feedback
>been at this too long now, better just go for it
>teeheehee come over to my house and make sure you bring me gifts because i like gifts solely for completely innocent reasons!

pathetic, desperate, emotionally stunted, morons but society is not any safer with or without them. you only risk creating a more dangerous offender here.

>every post-pubescent girl is 13 years old!
fuck off already.

Ever seen the movie thirteen? Where fucking 20 year olds played "13 year old" girls?

I read the initial post and not the damage control afterwards that he directed me to. It's just pedos being wrong

>muh gross oversimplification of complex concepts and issues for the sake of allowing only one possible conclusion

>muh anyone who questions/analyzes this is a child rapist

The initial post was probably made before you were born, son.

Female puberty doesnt really start slowing down until about 16-17, and its certainly not over by then. There are essentially no post-pubescent girls under the age of 17. I dont even know why you are arguing this when this is a thread about TCAP where the girls are 13 and pre-pubescent

Thankfully hansen and perverted justice target people who have trouble learning not to try to grab fire.

daily reminder that if you defend the predators on TCAP/HVP, then you are either trolling, retarded, or out of touch with society and how to be a normal person

This shit is so sadistic. These guys are just virgin losers who want to know teenage love because they missed it. They're transforming them into real monsters by ashaming them like that.

The problem is not "gross oversimplifcation," it's your gross misunderstanding of the law. That you (((feel))) that the law is """wrong""" does not make it invalid.
Learn what entrapment is. Here's a link
justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-645-entrapment-elements
Google what an Attempted Crime is
Google the difference between a civil case and a criminal case
Educate yourself on the topic before you give your opinion on it.

>complex concepts

Don't break the Law and you wont go to jail. There's nothing really complex about it.

That hair, guy is clearly deranged.

yes, it is thankful. because even though they have trouble learning not to touch fire, they have no trouble in meeting kids online and trying to have sex with them

>There are essentially no post-pubescent girls under the age of 17.

Why stop there? A lot of physical development happens all the way to menopause! And after menopause, women can't have children anymore. Which means there are no consequences for fucking them. Which means they can finally fully understand the consequences of sex!

RAISE THE AGE OF CONSENT TO SIXTY NOW

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hm2qTlIGQaE#t=330
>and then you ask
>NO stop stop
>one more

>a person operating on an entirely emotional level, thus, incapable of any analysis, is claiming others are too emotional to understand he is right

>with Cred Forums lingo

There's something happening here.
What it is, ain't exactly clear.

nice argument pedo

pedo status in this thread: [ ] not btfo [x] BTFO

Well said sir. Pretty realistic and normal interpretation. I don't want to see anybody get hurt, even the perps. And I sure as shit don't want to glorify this trash programming.

>they have no trouble falling into sting operations specifically designed to catch people like them so they can be put on camera for the amusement of the viewers at home

Fixed your post.

Also, ya know, again
>post-adolescents
>kids

>please don't tase me
I have a feeling he's a Cred Forumstard
there's nothing emotional about that post, user

Isn't there a banner about how if you post bullshit, you'll get bullshit?

You should probably take that to heart. On the very very very very slim chance you aren't already.

bumping this

hansen is entirely about the emotional manipulation, thus, defending him is defending the feefees he gives you.

Especially considering how hansen defenders consistently reject any sort of knowledge of how the man operates.

>they have no trouble navigating to places where young children browse, looking through these children and then messaging these children about sex

FTFY

also
>13 years old
>post adolescent

>they have no trouble navigating to places where young children browse, looking through these children and then messaging these children about sex
[citation needed]

top kek, hansen is for the entertainment, which he does very well. The law he is relying on is solid, and he is acting within the bounds of the law. I am just for the enforcement of the law to its fullest extent. They wouldn't be able to do it over and over again if it were illegal don't you think?

> hansen is for the entertainment

Well, one thing in your post is correct, at least. Good job.

good, /r9k/ must be purged

Actually, my entire post is correct. You're just letting your emotions towards your peers (fat/weirdo losers who can't get adult pussy) cloud your judgment.

>They wouldn't be able to do it over and over again if it were illegal don't you think?

What politician is going to start campaigning to change laws to protect the rights of "pedophiles?"

Half the laws on the books, despite being dated to the point of worthlessness, are untouchable because they can only be changed by elected officials, and anyone who's been convicted of a felony can't vote.

>my entire post is correct.
Prove it.

The first point you argued with me was that the girls on hansen vs predator are post-pubescent, despite them being sold as 12 and 13. When i said that they are about 13, you equated that with me saying all post pubescent girls are 13. Soon enough you went on a literally autistic tirade about nothing. Have you had your haldol today?

Why didn't Chris lose at least SOME weight before going back on TV?

That huge ass stomach is fucking disgusting.

The posts you're referring to are not all the same person.

A: you've gotten replies from more than one person (congratulations!)

B: none of the decoys has ever pretended to be 12

Is this a joke? The company that poses as bait simply create profiles on social media, to which the predator responds to. I think this is a joke because half the shtick of TCAP is having pages upon pages of exactly what i mentioned

>Half the laws on the books, despite being dated to the point of worthlessness, are untouchable because they can only be changed by elected officials, and anyone who's been convicted of a felony can't vote.
Ah yes, it's an "I don't agree with the law therefore it is shit" episode. That's what (You) think, a literal who. You are also mistaken on how laws could be changed. If enough people petition their local representatives to change a law, a law could be changed.

res ipsa loquitur

This. Its funny how the pedos in these threads act like this shit hasn't been vetted by numerous Hansen's lawyers and the prosecuters to make sure this is all legally sound.

I have no sympathy for whatever legal repercussions they face because they know what they were doing was against the law. But it's great to see Hansen bust on these people who try to get sex from kids more than half their age.

but user, the law is outdated and worthless
t.cunnyposter

>Ask any girl in her 30s that "had sex" (was raped, imo) with a substantially older guy in her teens how she feels about it. None are cool with it, they all have negative feelings about the experience.
So, how exactly would you say that one class of elementary school students in Houston that went and had themselves an orgy while the teacher was out, would be handling things? They were all the same age range. Will they somehow be super cool with it when they're in their 30s unlike the the teens being """raped""" by older men?

>be a maker of rape whistles
>rape whistles are highly effective
>rapes decrease
>profits decrease in correlation to rape whistles

Chris Hansen is making money off of entrapping slightly retarded people, luckily there are plenty of retards.

Crime is 90℅ about 'intent'

>none of the decoys has ever pretended to be 12
I'm gonna go through the logs of all TCAP and HvP tomorrow and see what ages they used the most. I thought they used 14 pretty regularly on TCAP because most of the dudes into the REAL children were smart enough not to risk it.

>What politician is going to start campaigning to change laws to protect the rights of "pedophiles?"

What "rights" are these people losing?

The law says if you do this then you have committed a crime. They go through the same due process, as everyone else who is accused of committing a crime.

Considering we're talking about a law written before anyone so much as imagined a computer smaller than a room, that, now, carries real penalties for virtual crimes against imaginary people, yes, anyone should say that law is bullshit and leaving it on the books and allowing it to be exploited (for profit) sets an absolutely horrifying precedence for anyone.

But hey, you're trolling. But if you don't know already, its really easy to troll when you're saying things that justify making the world worse than it already is because of how you feel about the people currently affected.

>res ipsa loquitur
>the principle that the occurrence of an accident implies negligence.

... I guess you got that one wrong on your last test.

Thank you for being a such a rational individual. I can sleep easy tonight knowing people like you are still out there

Again, that is (You)r opinion. That a law was written decades before the internet does not mean it could not be applied to present situations.
have you tried looking up what it literally means (and why it is used for that concept)?:)

Well, the right to, at some point down the line, start applying real penalties to other virtual crimes against imagined individuals.

Like, I don't know, virtual hate crimes.

>I don't know
There I summed your post for you.

>That a law was written decades before the internet does not mean it could not be applied to present situations.

The point is removed of all subtext of physical contact between people, it becomes a case where there are real penalties for asking dora the explorer if she wants to fuck.

>Considering we're talking about a law written before anyone so much as imagined a computer smaller than a room, that, now, carries real penalties for virtual crimes against imaginary people, yes, anyone should say that law is bullshit and leaving it on the books and allowing it to be exploited (for profit) sets an absolutely horrifying precedence for anyone.

Are you fucking retarded? They have laws that were passed addressing this exact thing.

>he just looked it up and posted it
>it clearly has nothing to do with this thread

I'd love to hear your interpretation though.

So hansen tripped those laws and is in jail?

...

Its kinda funny that a troll isn't concerned about the very real possibility of trolling becoming a criminal act, based upon hansen created precedence.

>more completely circular logic

I guess that's what I get for giving you the benefit of a doubt.

What I was trying to say was, I did not have to prove that my post is entirely correct because it speaks for itself. Are all pedos this retarded?

Different user here, stop spouting 'muh circular logic' when you post things that are so unbelievably stupid, thats twice now

This isn't them enforcing some law from 1850 and trying to apply it to the internet.

>i'm right because I feel the things I said are right
>not circular logic

:^)

well, when you try and say that the predators on TCAP dont target children, theres literally nothing else to say other than you are retarded

my lawyer would get all these charges dropped. textbook entrapment

If I was incorrect on Hansen's methods being within the bounds of the law, then how come his operation has not been shut down by authorities? That the government is actually assisting him means, at the very least, that he is operating within the bounds of law. It literally speaks for itself.

take the bait user, make sure you give us a shout out and publicize the lawsuit so we know it's you.

>person tells predator they are 13
>predator tries to have sex with that person and sexual explicit messages and pictures

But user, they were really meaning to have a sexual conservation with a child.

The best counter to that ITT is all indications are the people TCAP catches aren't targeting anyone, they're casting their net as wide as possible and the only person they can get a response from are decoys. To say, they aren't looking for little girls. They're looking for any girl.

That's a very long appeal to authority you have there.

Also good job on misrepresenting the argument to suit your conclusions.

> These guys are just virgin losers who want to know teenage love because they missed it.
>mfw it actually happened
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hm2qTlIGQaE#t=824
Is this why you losers are defending these degenerates?

agreed. Hansen must answer for his crimes against the constitution

Which is irrelevant because they then break the law by engaging is a sexual conservation and try to meet up with the little girl.

>and
no
see:

>appeal to authority
I'm stating facts and reasonable conclusions from facts. That is not "an appeal to authority." Just because you've read the sticky on Cred Forums doesn't mean you have the ability to properly use those words; your grasp (or lack thereof) of the concept found in the sticky's image is apparent from your line of responses.

So what would happen if you found out they were doing a predator sting operation near your place and you just stood outside the house with a camera and when you saw someone you thought was going to be entrapped, you talk with them in hopes that they realize they're missing a giant bullet and might re-prioritize their life?

Or would Hanson come out and punch you in the face for doing that?

Then thank Hansen (pbuh) that they get a response from decoys and not actual children, but these people still have no aversions to sexting and having sex with little kids

also, what evidence do you have that these predators message a swathe of people of different ages?

interference with police business

I would hope that hansen comes out and punches you in the face because i seriously doubt you telling the pedo to walk away is going to remove their impulses, urges and restore their boundaries

>"I am an Endagered White Rhino" - Decoy
>"looking for a poacher to chat with" - Decoy
>"Hello, I like rhinos and am lonely" - Poacher
>"Hey sexy poacher come to my house." - Decoy
>"okay, I bring coolwhip and hunting rifle." - Poacher
>poacher shows up at the house
>"What were you thinking?" - CH
>"I thought we'd watch the game, I was not planning on shooting rhino and mounting head in my library." -Poacher
>game wardens shove him into unmarked car
>he cries all the way to jail

they can still arrest the guy. Just can't get him on film. Which they've done before, after all.

Since its not officially a police operation (read: hansen isn't a cop or agent of law enforcement or affliated in any way) it isn't obstruction, though.

This is also the ACTUAL reason its not legally entrapment.

What if you gave them information to go seek psychiatric help?

You could probably get impeding an investigation or aiding a criminal because they already have enough to file charges. Getting them to the house is just to get them on tv and a place where they can be arrested easily.

More like thank the fact they're creepy disgusting losers whom no one would ever have sex with, thus further removing from the realm of possibility of them ever being a threat to anyone.

But thanks for playing. This hasn't been posted in at least half an hour.

1st amendment you bootlicker

I think it should have been more well produced but i guess for something kickstarted it's not bad. But damn Chris got fat as fuck.

Also why only one suspect per episode? Would rather have had a 1 hour episode of different ones like TCAP. The humor might seem more dry now that there's no variety in each episode.

what the fuck is that going to do you stupid cunt?

DUDE ENTRAPMENT LMAO

*gets v&*

I think in this day and age they were lucky to get any suspects at all.

They probably blew months with nothing but hansen groupies and people who say things like "shes clearly older than me" and "ageplay."

They still get arrested. I remember there was a guy who decided, after a couple passes, not to go in the house. The cops pulled him over and got him anyway.
It might've been the guy with all the weapons in his trunk.

>america

>It might've been the guy with all the weapons in his trunk.
Nope.

>More like thank the fact they're creepy disgusting losers whom no one would ever have sex with, thus further removing from the realm of possibility of them ever being a threat to anyone.

More like than Hansen (pbuh) for exposing disgusting pedophiles who try and reach out to children for sex

dont forget, every single person you saw on TCAP, looked at the profile of a supposedly 14 year old child and thought, 'you know what? im going to try fuck this kid"

...

What do you think witch chaser?

But if he doesn't commit by going into the house, wouldn't that just be tantamount to a arrested them for a thought crime?

I could write that I intend to mess with football by blowing up a bomb at a game and have all the parts to build a bomb does that mean I will do it?

>dont forget, every single person you saw on TCAP, looked at the profile of a supposedly 14 year old child and thought, 'you know what? im going to try fuck this kid"

Which is exactly why I don't feel sorry for any of these people.

Don't forget they always have the age of the decoy in the range of 13-14 because actual pedophiles don't want to scare kids by talking about sex, thus they never catch anyone when the decoy's age is in the 5-12 range.

Meaning they're literally tailoring the decoy to attract the desperate and retarded. Because actual child predators play the very long game and never leave any actual evidence until they've torn through a kid's cervix like it was a second hymen.

Furthermore hansen's efforts just increase the legal awareness of other predators. Which hansen will spin as evidence they're having a positive effect because they can no longer catch people with straight solicitation of a minor.

Half the people on this show have wives or girlfriends

For the love of god see

you don't understand what entrapment is.

entrapment is when the police suggest you commit a crime and then you do.
For example, if they offered to sell you drugs and then arrested you, or if they offered to fuck you for cash and then arrested you.

If you pay attention to these undercover operations, they're very careful to never actually initiate the crime.
The decoy will wait for them to suggest they have sex, the decoy allows them to come over of their own accord.
Same thing with female cops posing as prostitutes, they just dress up trashy and hang around areas waiting to get propositioned, they never go up to people and ask if they want it.

>Don't forget they always have the age of the decoy in the range of 13-14 because actual pedophiles

>actual pedophiles

So the only reason this isn't entrapment is because hansen isn't directly affiliated with any law enforcement agency and no law enforcement agency assisted hansen in creating the sting.

How deliciously slimy.

what is with the rise in illiteracy when basically everyone communicates with text?

>only the unmarried want a manic pixie dream girl

...

We should just euthanize anyone who hasn't lost their virginity by 20.

Anything above 10 is a go for me

>tfw you think you're a pedophile for decades then you spend some time around actual kids, rather than japanese animes.

._.

not exactly.
the law enforcement agency could do it directly without Hansen, they just couldn't initiate the crime themselves.
The idea is that in entrapment, you're creating a scenario where the crime would occur to catch people who may not have done it had the opportunity not arisen.

But in these cases they make sure the pedos are not prompted to commit the crime, they have to make the decision.
Simply having someone act as a child or dress trashy isn't entrapment.

>the law enforcement agency could do it directly without Hansen

Then why don't they. Why do they need entities like perverted justice and hansen to do everything.

Because if an actual law enforcement entity attempted this, it'd be tossed out because its entrapment.

Isn't there still plausible deniability that you just happen to be in the area?

they have done this sort of thing without Hansen, but without Hansen it's not a show.
They've done similar things on Cops.
If you look up the laws relating to entrapment, it states that the "agent induces a person to commit a criminal offense that the person would have otherwise been unlikely to commit".
The agent, being a cop pretending to be a hooker or a john can walk around or talk with the perps, but they can't suggest that they commit the crime because that would be inducing them.
But a guy who sees a woman in those clothes in that neighborhood assumes it's a hooker and propositions her.
Same with the johns, if a hooker sees a guy driving up with his window down she offers prostitution.
That's how these operations work, the perp has to incriminate themselves without being lead into it.

Also if you look up the laws relating to entrapment, they're all pretty clear they only apply to law enforcement.

Private entities can entrap all they want.

>They've done similar things on Cops.
If you're talking about the prostitution stings, those only work because they just have the decoy walking around outside, not doing anything that specifically identifies her as a prostitute, and only because the john will offer, of his own volition, to give her money in exchange for sex.

Those stings faded away with the internet as cops can't put up an add that so much implies the decoy is a prostitute, as that would trip entrapment.

But entrapment law only restricts the activities of law enforcement. So hansen and perverted justice can do whatever they want.

>hansen and perverted justice can do whatever they want.

... well, short of blackmail.

>If you're talking about the prostitution stings, those only work because they just have the decoy walking around outside, not doing anything that specifically identifies her as a prostitute, and only because the john will offer, of his own volition, to give her money in exchange for sex.
that's my point.
That's not entrapment because the officer doesn't induce the perp.

If you pay attention during the chat logs and the decoy's language when they enter the house, they don't offer to have sex.
Even when the perp says "Do you want me inside you?" or something, the decoy in chat will say "I don't know" or "what do you mean?" or something along those lines.

If they creates a fake child prostitution syndicate to attract pedos that wouldn't work because they'd be instigating the crime.

why don't we have a reality show catching men soliciting hookers?

it would be hillarious humillating virgins and exposing married guys.

Like I said, an actual law enforcement agency can't do that because putting up a profile for a decoy prostitute (or fake underage girl) would constitute inducement.

But that doesn't matter as hansen and perverted justice aren't affiliated with law enforcement, and entrapment law only applies to law enforcement.

It would be but the problem is that people don't hate those guys enough for it to have the ratings To Catch a Predator did.
People are usually disgusted at worst by johns, they hate and fear pedos.

>why don't we have a reality show catching men soliciting hookers?

... because advertising money for sex would be a crime and all involved would go to jail.

Then how come police can arrest people then if it's not an official operation? Can't a person just plead ignorance even if they have a chat log to say they wanted to fuck?

Making a fake underage profile isn't inducement because talking to a minor isn't a crime.
If a 5 year old walked up to you at a bus stop and said hello, you would not take that as a sexual advance.
Any normal person would not get entrapped because they aren't seeking a minor.
However if the underage decoy told people online "yeah I just want to get fucked by older guys" that would be inducement.
That's why the chat logs are so tame from the decoy's side, they have to act somewhat passive to skirt this issue.

Because they're not involved with the entrapment and there is sufficient evidence of a crime. Solicitation of a minor.

Its slimy as fuck. So long as the cops aren't calling any shots on the sting operation, and just chilling, no entrapment.

>Making a fake underage profile isn't inducement

Prove it. Show me actual law enforcement has conducted "solicitation of a minor" stings without perverted justice, chris hansen, or a third civilian party that does everything and the police just make the arrest once solicitation has been proven.

Nah, the prostitution stings were fucking awesome on Cops.

Sadly, internet.