Is To Catch a Predator ethical?

>replacement material
like what, genetically bred fuck dolls? porn isn't a replacement to sex with kids.

Not really.

Think about it; it's parading itself as serving justice while at the same being blatant scare mongering and entertainment television.

If there's not a conflict of interests right there I don't know what is.

Further, you also have young, attractive, yet above the age of consent, women portraying the "bait" in which to lure these men in.

So what the producers are saying is, that if you're attracted to these women, you are a paedophile.

Now I'm all for stopping paedophiles, but this show in many ways manufactures them.

But what the fuck do I know, people are going to keep shoving bread down their throats even as the nation goes to shit around them.

Lexus

the cunny poster is actually from 4+Cred Forums, he's spamming with a bot.

>blatant scare mongering
how? they're only arresting people who want to have sex with kids.

>Further, you also have young, attractive, yet above the age of consent, women portraying the "bait" in which to lure these men in.
i think they use other pics than the bait girls/boys when chatting with them.

Yes, but the ones that they show you in the house greeting them and all that. Those are actors and actresses that are of age.

What about child RealDolls?

Stop using that argument about it not really being illegal because they're not really children AND WHY WIULDNT YOU BE ATTRACTED TO A FULLY DEVELOPED FENALLE!!??

They use pictures of an actual child when talking with the guy.
When they talk on the phone, however briefly, it's in the voice of a child.
Everything that is said to them is spoken as if it were a child.
"haha my mom probly be so mad at yew :("
Instead of being an adult and thinking that maybe they should use a more subtle approach, they always respond with "LOL I'll show you what a real man is like and you're mom will have to love me cuz I'm so fucking good at sex you'll want to marry me someday"
And the bait would just be like "that sounds weird"
And the guy "YKNOW WHATS WEORD IS THAT YIUR A VIRGIN ILK CHANGE THAT"

doesn't really matter, since the pics they saw were of kids and they got sexually interested at that point. if the pics were of legal girls then it would be a slightly different.

doubt it would satisfy their lust, they're just expensive fleshlights really.

>He believes the lies of TV producers.
Wow, you really think there's absolutely no leading these men on?

If TCAP is to be believed, then we should be hearing about children being raped all the time by men they're meeting in chatrooms, but we're not. Why's that?

Because they're leading these men on and not at all acting like most children and people like you buy into their fear mongering and public shaming because watching somebody's life fall apart is great entertainment I guess.

inb4 you call me some closet pedophile or other nonsense.

They don't just stop at the porn, if they did do you think half these guys would get caught? they always have to go that step further.

Are you some closet pedo or something mate?

Dude, almost every girl I knew in high school either had a relationship with an older guy online, or knew someone who did. Some of them when they were 14, 15. Now, if they technically consented is it truly illegal? Well I think some of them consented to a relationship or a date, but not necessarily sex, which of course happens wither way. They dont report it, if you did, your parents might disown you or never let you on the computer again, or nobody invites you to prom.
But the older guy gets to go right back at it with some new girl, sometimes the best friend of the last one.

Now, this was 5 or 6 years ago right? So can we assume that high school and middle school kids have better phone and internet access than they did back then?
It's like a normal thing now to have online/long distance relationships. Most of the time the girl is wildly too trusting, gives out too much personal info etc. While the dude who's done this before is giving out fake names, addresses, etc.

I'm just saying you cant pretend like it isn't going on because you personally aren't affected by it.

Again, how many of these children are being raped by 45 year old men?

Next to none, but TCAP has the fuckers lined up two by two 36 hours after setting up their operations.

So yeah, what's the deal, home slice?

Can we talk about the decoy in the new Hansen vs Predator episode looking 35.

99% of the scum who appear on this show are pitiful human beings who whinge and whine and make pathetic excuses that are so transparent that they deserve to imprisoned for stupidity alone.

Then take into account that these people wilfully pursued a minor with explicit messages and went as far as to show up at their house.

Not only do they deserve to go prison and be humiliated on television, they deserve to be tied up and put in a room with the parent of a child who was sexually abused.

The second you prey on a child is the second you sacrifice any right to ethical treatment.

>they deserve to be tied up and put in a room with the parent of a child who was sexually abused.
>The second you prey on a child is the second you sacrifice any right to ethical treatment.
Justice is not about revenge, my son.

I'm glad someone like you is not a judge.

The last guy was like 32 years old and knew who Chris Hanson was. Its very likely anyone young enough is a bit more self aware and cognizant to catfishing and internet pedo culture from Cred Forums.

If you're like 45 and recently divorced and maybe an alcoholic, the idea of going to some girls house sounds fun and exciting and you block out any warning signs.

Despite all this, that former sheriff from the last ep of TCAP was some shady shit.
He didn't even go to the bait house and they called the SWAT so fast to his house that he shot himself. Cant say I agree with that.

Oh wow one of these threads again!

>false flagger defending pedos bait
>people react to the bait
>someone with no conception of how the law works talks about the legal aspects
>the word entrapment is misused a number of times

What fun.

So they're using pictures of actual underage people to give to pedos?

Where did they get them?

You're avoiding the question.

TCAP portrays these men as so voracious, hungry, and desperate for these children. That there are loads, and loads of them that come to the house whenever they set up their "simple" operation that "doesn't lead them on" yet we almost never hear of these same incidents happening in real life.

Do you think it's because the other guys are so crafty that they just never get caught, or do you think it's because it just about never happens?

I'm going with the latter.

the only problem i have with it is they don't go far enough. where are the episodes where they catch real pedos, the ones going after 6 and 7 year olds? have they ever tried to infiltrate pedo porn rings? i think it's a fantastic program, but i'm bored with watching dudes chasing young teens. i fucked a 13 year old when i was 13 and that dumb bitch would have given it away to anyone, probably an old guy, too. who fucking cares anymore?

I thought it was an attorney that killed himself

So how can they charge someone for sending a dick pic to a minor when the person they sent it to was actually legal and there were no minors involved?

Intent, you fuck.
Go to the white house and hold up a sign saying "I WANT TO KILL OBAMA" and see where that gets you.

The idea is they'll eventually be weaned off of heroin. You don't exactly wean someone off a deviant fetish by assisting them in indulging in it.

And I'm telling you that it does happen, that ive heard of it happening, that I know people its happened to, but you just don't want to believe that part.

Latest episode was hilarious. That 30 year old looking decoy actually said NETFLIX AND CHILL. And also how the fuck do these dudes they catch almost never seem to recognize Hansen? The show was really popular there is NO WAY pedos didn't catch on that dateline did this shit or didn't hear about Hansen's kickstarter or whatever to get the show running again.

>sends dick pic to child
>explicitly suggests that they should meet up and have sex
>actually turns up at the house

Yeah nah this guy should be released immediately, he clearly isn't a danger to society and there is absolutely no risk that he would go out and do it again.

That 30 year old drama student ain't going anywhere after that performance.

>come and look at this antique piece of furniture that my dad made

I just loved seeing the look on the pedos face as he slowly realised that it was a trap long before Chris even stepped in.

Then his pathetic attitude towards the whole situation was fucking hilarious. He honest to god convinced himself that this was just a little slap on the wrist.

Man I love this show. My favourite part is when they start breaking down when they arrive at the station.

Sweet anecdotes, but I want hard evidence and convictions, which just don't really happen despite there being a plethora of electronic evidence in cases like this.

>be a generic white male
>stop by some house to ask directions to the beach
>get invited in and offered cookies
>cookies taste homemade btw
>suddenly get accused of pedophilia

Welcome to Obama's America

How many of these resulted in actual convictions and/or jail time?

Seriously that guy shoulda 360'd and walked the fuck out

He did get a slap on the wrist, no prison time right?

Is the new ep out yet?

Not the guy you were talking to, but I think you're stupid if you don't believe this kinda shit doesn't happen. The girls this happens to are highly unlikely to talk about it in fear of the social stigmas it brings, or at the very least fearing the repercussions that their parents would give them.

Does TCAP make it seem as though it's way more likely than it probably is? Potentially, but if you want "evidence" the fact that these guys are showing up at all should tell you that there's enough fish in the sea to bait them in easily.

No matter how you want to slice it these are grown ass men planning on having sex with young girls. You can try and make it seem "better" by saying that the guys were "tempted" but they still were dumb enough to drive to the house and act on their urges.

What's not talked about is the probability that there are way more people in positions of power than you would assume who get away with things like this because of their positions.

No but I enjoy seeing pedos humiliated on national television so I don't care.

Not when they humiliate literal retards that would never have gotten with a kid in the first place if they hadn't been lead on so much. And I don't mean just stupid people, I mean litreally mentally disabled like the "oops" guy. There's a point where someone's moral culpability for an act is so diminished by their lack of cognitive functions that I really think exposing and laughing at them on national TV is unjust.

AWWW YISS CHRIS IS BACK

Where do you officially watch these episodes? I know they are on youtube but you can't find them on his official channel or his website.

yeah good thing judges are all spineless libcucks

I don't particularly give a shit about the men who get caught up in this, but just the fact that they package it as entertainment disgusts me.

Punishing thought crimes is one thing, but then filming it and having Chris Hansen stand there with his smug face acting like he's some great warrior of justice while he's scrounging for ratings like any other shitty television show, that's where I have a problem with it.

Chris Hansen is just a different kind of degenerate to them.

Justice isnt about revenge.
jail is about rehabilitation, so there is no recidivism.

Wah its womimmz guies they too scared.
as per usual Cred Forums has a community of shit.

>Justice isnt about revenge.
This is correct
>jail is about rehabilitation
This is wrong

I think there's a legitimate discussion to be had if an adult fucking a teenager is really all that bad as it's made out to be and I think a lot of the later predators on the show were just losers who would have gone to anyone's house for sex whether they were 15 or 30 because they were desperate and the "real" pedophiles got savvy pretty early on but the sympathizer argument that the poor poor predators were bewitched by the enticing siren's call of the fat catladies from the perverted justice chatrooms and had no choice but to come over to some random teen's home to fuck them is so pathetic and stupid that it makes me not care at all.

jail is primarily about containment

>Women being too scared to report rape and molestation.
Same old song and dance, but the fact of the matter is that children are much more likely to be sexually abused by a relative or family friend than some random guy on the internet,

no being funny,but can I just play the devil's advocate for minute here

how can people say gay is not a choice and you're born gay and so on, yet these peed's aren't afforded the same understanding even though it the same kind of thing

It doesn't really matter if it's a choice or not and I don't think people "choose" much of anything when it comes to how they feel about things, sexually or otherwise. It is a choice to act on it or not and the difference between acting on being a fag and a nonce is that fagging it up with another fag is theoretically harmless whereas acing on pedo feelings harms someone who doesn't really understand what they're getting into, not to mention the inherit power imbalances between an adult and an underage.

I think there is a debate to be had over the extent of the inherit harmfulness of an adult sexing a teenager versus what social stigma has added to it

Justice does include retribution, though

Neither is obviously a choice. Why would anyone choose to be ostracized (unless you're a teenage edge lord)

However the problem, for me, isn't whether you find young kids attractive. Its acting on it. Basically statutory rape or actual rape. With gays you have two consenting adults.

Which is why I don't understand the laws against drawing or CG of underage. Literally no one is getting hurt.

>>Which is why I don't understand the laws against drawing or CG of underage. Literally no one is getting hurt.
The legal argument is that it's like a gateway drug for real pedophilia but it's really just an excuse for punishing deviants for making normies feel icky poo-poo.